Quotes of the day

posted at 10:55 pm on February 28, 2011 by Allahpundit

Via the Daily Caller.

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“Weird how Christie says absolutely *nothing* about the current president who can’t open his piehole w/o a teleprompter, but goes after Palin…

“.@GovChristie is bad on immigration, 2nd amendment, & supports cap & tax. And he has the gall to even *talk* about Palin?…

“I’m wondering, how long would @GovChristie, @INGovernor & @MittRomney survive under the same kind of scrutiny Palin has for years?”

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“Chris Christie says what I’ve been saying forever: If Palin wants to prove she has the mettle to stand up to Ahmadinejad, she has to show the mettle of standing up David Gregory and George Stephanopolous. Her FaceBook/Friendly Media agenda proves she can, like Barack Obama, give a fine interview when gently questioned; it doesn’t prove she can actually stand up to the fire.

“I keep hearing she’s the only candidate who’s been baptized by fire but I haven’t actually seen her in fire for quite a long time.

“But Chris Christie, and I, are bad people for noting this, or bad people for wondering what it will take for Palin to reverse her horrible unfavorable ratings.”

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“We thought perhaps Christie was just too damn lazy to watch 60 minutes of unscripted Palin. So, we figured we’d help him out. We compiled this short 14 minute video of Governor Palin addressing a wide range of issues including healthcare, deficit, budget, energy, environment, foreign policy, civil debate and much more unscripted in front of a group of socially liberal Democrats and Republicans in an area where the Democrat Party is strong.

“Christopher, it took us quite a while to compile this just for you. We assume you’ll take the time to watch it.”


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darwin on March 1, 2011 at 10:02 AM

She has already addressed the storng dollar issue very well with her attacks on QE.

unseen on March 1, 2011 at 10:14 AM

She has already addressed the storng dollar issue very well with her attacks on QE.

unseen on March 1, 2011 at 10:14 AM

Yes. My point is people want her to have a platform with specific ideas and solutions. The time to release that platform is when and if you run for office. No potential candidate has released specific ideas and solutions.

darwin on March 1, 2011 at 10:16 AM

It’s a state where Dems like the horribly flawed Lautenberg, Florio, Torricelli, or McGreevey can win elections. Dems start every election in NJ with an edge.

dedalus on March 1, 2011 at 9:33 AM

Christie won in NJ because he’s not much different than those you put on the above list.

Ask why his brother wasn’t convicted along with ALL OF HIS CO-WORKERS for Wall Street-type investment crimes! He’s as evil and crooked as the rest of the NJ mob-politicians. Yep, big fat Todd Christie owes his big fat brother, Christie, big time, for his freedom. Must be nice.

Christie won’t run because he knows there are skeletons in that great big Christie closet. That one is FDIC insured.

stenwin77 on March 1, 2011 at 10:26 AM

FWIW, Stephen Green at PJTV thinks that Christie’s “unscripted moments” snark was directed at Romney.

pugwriter on March 1, 2011 at 10:31 AM

unseen @ 10:10

It’s QUOTES OF THE DAY, in case you neglected to read the post.

Anyone else talking about Astrian economics in their interviews?

From a discussion with ACe last night it is clear he knows nothing about Palin and does not wish to learn anything. Citing Ace as a source to anything Palin is beyond insane.

Wrong, wrong and wrong again.

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“Chris Christie says what I’ve been saying forever: If Palin wants to prove she has the mettle to stand up to Ahmadinejad, she has to show the mettle of standing up David Gregory and George Stephanopolous. Her FaceBook/Friendly Media agenda proves she can, like Barack Obama, give a fine interview when gently questioned; it doesn’t prove she can actually stand up to the fire.

“I keep hearing she’s the only candidate who’s been baptized by fire but I haven’t actually seen her in fire for quite a long time.

“But Chris Christie, and I, are bad people for noting this, or bad people for wondering what it will take for Palin to reverse her horrible unfavorable ratings.”

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You appear to be the one remaining in the dark, ill read. It wasn’t I that brought Ace’s quote in for discussion, but Allahpundit (see above, 2nd “quote” before the thread of comments).

maverick muse on March 1, 2011 at 10:34 AM

darwin on March 1, 2011 at 10:16 AM

agreed. I am just pointing out that most of her platform is already out their via her volume of work over the last 2 years. She will simply use that work to repackage and reformat those positions. Be it a strong dollar or the proper role of government to shape her economic policy….

unseen on March 1, 2011 at 10:34 AM

Why are Conservative women are both loved and loathed in the republican party? I think part of it is how hard it is for a woman to be a conservative. They may have to actually be truly socially conservative in order to find fiscal matters more important than liberal fantasies about women’s “rights”. Women also are likely to be very agressive in their conservative purity, as they have been put through the fire by the liberals for their conservatism. Sarah Palin is not only brilliant and down to earth at the same time, but she is not very conciliatory towards go along get along politics. She has stood up to the corrupt politicians and taken down proregressives and republicans alike. She has set lofty goals and pressured those who would stop her by using skill and truth to force them to out their political agendas or to support her agenda. This makes them loved by the true conservatives and loathed by the wheeling and dealing establishment. Anyone in the party that says that Sarah Palin is not ready to be president or is unable to win election is likely one of the wheeling and dealing corruptocrats who wants to keep their less than conservative agendas under the radar. Bachmann has also been a champion of conservative values, all conservative values, not just the ones popular today. She has had less opportunity at this point in her career to make as much of an impact and prove herself as solidly as Sarah palin has, but she seems to be made from the same bedrock solid core values. Nikki Haley again, rock solid conservative, been through the fire on both the left and the proregressive right and came out stronger for it. The real fear in the republican party is that these fire hardened conservative women will demonstrate once and for all that you can successfully govern with full conservative values and destroy the wheeling and dealing corruptocracy that allows them to enter congress somewhat rich and leave extremely rich with more opportunity for more future ill gotten gains.

astonerii on March 1, 2011 at 10:41 AM

You appear to be the one remaining in the dark, ill read. It wasn’t I that brought Ace’s quote in for discussion, but Allahpundit (see above, 2nd “quote” before the thread of comments).

maverick muse on March 1, 2011 at 10:34 AM

I don’t consider Ron Paul a candidate. He has never gotten more than 10% of the vote. He is more of a pundit at this stage then anything else. and one of the reasons he gets less than 10% is because he talks the wonkish crap that causes people’s eyes to glaze over.

As far as the comment by ace. I said:

From a discussion with Ace last night it is clear he knows nothing about Palin and does not wish to learn anything. Citing Ace as a source to anything Palin is beyond insane. He doesn’t even know the basic timeline of events since her resignation from office. His ideas on Palin are based on incomplete facts and biased news sources. He in short cherry picks data that agrees with his theory and willfully ignores the data that doesn’t confirm to his theory on Palin. I would not cite Ace to make your case against Palin. that would be like asking the Souix about their thoughts on custer…

unseen on March 1, 2011 at 10:10 AM

which was given as a general point of reference since you mentioned his comment that Allah linked.

Like I said I don’t really have a problem with your post. Some of it makes sense. My problem is that there are no posts asking others to adher to the same standard and there is a reason for that. Being that to do so and go into that depth is a proven way to lose a campaign. While a small subsections of voters what that type of indepth discussion most do not. And the voters tend to turn on the candidates that bore them with those types of discussion. It is a higher standard than most candidates are held too.

And people like Ace know these things or at least they should. It is a no win game they are asking Palin to play. To do what they ask will turn voters off and the opponents will always find something to nitpick no matter how indepth a candidate goes. In fact the more indepth the more they will find. but by setting this standard they then have a pinata to hit whenever Gov Palin speaks in broad terms as her not being “smart”. Damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t.

Ron Paul decided to go into the policy weeds and his supporters love and reward that fact but because of that decision he made himself a “fringe” candidate. fringe as in only a small % of the voters get him….Now his personal views on other issues turns off others which lowers his support more.

unseen on March 1, 2011 at 10:59 AM

It seems Gov Palin is being held to a higher standard then anyone else.
unseen on March 1, 2011 at 10:10 AM

I wouldn’t call it so much a higher standard — which implies a yearning for something better — as a disingenuous method of endless attack. It has a certain elegance and cover to it. There is misogyny involved, and envy, and elitism.

rrpjr on March 1, 2011 at 11:00 AM

Palin writes and speaks volumes, her fans attest.

The time to release that platform is when and if you run for office. No potential candidate has released specific ideas and solutions.

darwin on March 1, 2011 at 10:16 AM

The time to build the platform is before you ask America to get on board, not after the fact.

Palin’s work since retiring from public office has been campaigning for her agenda. Hence, she has an agenda. To say that she hasn’t is the height of deceit. Whether her agenda is as potent as need be is my point, since generalizations only go so far in garnering support as was the criticism of another commenter that I initially addressed in my first comments.

“Build it and they will come” platform firmly founded.
vs.
“Trust Me” aka “Change We Can Believe In” absent platform.

The Tea Party movement protests the “tried” political method that refuses to stipulate specifics, refusing to build a platform beyond “vote our guy”. The protest is because that lack of foundation has not proven “true” in official performance of Constitutional duties once elected. Refusing a firm foundation prior to construction and presentation of structure is as dumb as dumber and dumbest get. That describes where we are in America, the place in which the Tea Party movement protests, demanding political cleansing from our corrupted governance.

Conform to the tried methods, and that end result is another repetition, to campaign for another candidate from the very same deck of cards stacked against the Constitution’s Renaissance, either ignorantly or knowingly promoting globalist authoritarianism, the Feudal Dark Age that we have already entered.

Why insist on ignorance as bliss since it’s proven the destruction of America, the disintegration of our Constitutional Republic?

Take advantage of the essential point that as yet, the internet provides open communications of ideas, and the distribution of ideas are no longer monopolized or “owned” ONLY by network elitists.

maverick muse on March 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM

I wouldn’t call it so much a higher standard — which implies a yearning for something better — as a disingenuous method of endless attack. It has a certain elegance and cover to it. There is misogyny involved, and envy, and elitism.

rrpjr on March 1, 2011 at 11:00 AM

You had me right up until your accusation of misogyny.

holygoat on March 1, 2011 at 11:38 AM

So Christie is unscripted hit pieces on Palin now. I thought he wasn’t running.
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RalphyBoy on March 1, 2011 at 12:07 PM

You had me right up until your accusation of misogyny.

holygoat on March 1, 2011 at 11:38 AM

It’s absolutely part of it in my view. Palin’s particular brand of easy self-confidence (which in a way is more classicly masculine and jocular than what actual modern men demonstrate anymore) and her refusal to defer to the rules of the “boys network”, have drawn it to the surface. My realization of this has been growing. This is part of my sense of the true moral paltriness, pretense and fraud of the educated elite — most especially the progressives — in our time. These people suffer from resentments, hatreds and overwhelming insecurities and rage to control like I never imagined, far worse and more seething than what afflict the common man.

Have you heard of Robin of Berkeley? She’s a terrific blogger, an expatriate of the Left, who occasionally writes about the profound latent misogyny of progressive men. I have seen this up close as well, and think is also true (though less so) of conservatives. They would never admit to it, of course — indeed, it is partly the social pressure they feel to deal with women in power-sharing professional relationships that drives their resentments — but it is real. It is not always easy to tell where basic condescension toward a woman or ideological hatred ends and misogny begins. Palin’s increasing rise will continue to make the lines clearer.

rrpjr on March 1, 2011 at 12:09 PM

Let me restate that for the record…
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‘So Christie is doing unscripted hit pieces on Palin now? I thought he wasn’t running.’
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RalphyBoy on March 1, 2011 at 12:13 PM

So, I watched that Palin “unscripted”. They edited out the questions, so who knows, were these softballs that she was knocking out of the park? And she really was not knocking them out of the park, she was just regurgitating her vague poll tested talking points to satisfy her base.

When Christie and Ace say that she needs to be tested by fire, they do not mean by some nobody from long island in a video only Palinistas could dig out of obscurity. They were talking about the Sunday morning talk shows where liberally biased journalists spend all week formulating questions that are impossible to respond to with talking points, require thinking and some times policy making on your feet. (Christie was being grilled by Bob Schieffer when he made that comment.)

And if you think those reporters on more unfair to Palin and they are nicer to Christie. Think again. They would love to go after him. They have gone after him, but he stands up to them and answers their questions. Their toughest questions make him look better. After doing that for awhile, a politician gets something. It is called respect.

If you hide in your bunker and only communicate to the public through Twitter, Facebook and reality TV shows, and every time you venture into the MSM with an interview from a hostile biased journalist you cause a sensation by saying something stupid, you get another thing, and it’s not called respect.

tommylotto on March 1, 2011 at 12:34 PM

RalphyBoy on March 1, 2011 at 12:13 PM

I thought the first take had a certain zen truth to it.

J.E. Dyer on March 1, 2011 at 12:35 PM

All the media attention has gone to Christie’s head and he now actually thinks he can openly criticize Sarah Palin? I don’t want him for our candidate because he is no different from most Dems. He isn’t a conservative, and all he is doing is turning Sarah’s supporters against him. I was looking at the choices offered up for our presidential candidate yesterday, and I don’t see a person I would vote for except Sarah. Not Mitt, not Huckabee, not Daniels, not Gingrich. I believe we are in deep doodoo.

silvernana on March 1, 2011 at 12:40 PM

They were talking about the Sunday morning talk shows where liberally biased journalists spend all week formulating questions that are impossible to respond to with talking points, require thinking and some times policy making on your feet. (Christie was being grilled by Bob Schieffer when he made that comment.)

You’re joking, I assume. A question by Bob Schieffer — or any of liberally-biased journalists who populate the barren basement of Sunday morning — requires “thinking”? Or maybe you’re not joking — maybe they do take a week to formulate formulaic questions recycled from the week’s most predictably jaundiced rags and wags.

Palin has no reason to appear on thse shows; she doesn’t hold a public office. But she appreciates the avowed skew of the format and hostility of the interrogative. She is, properly, marginalizing them. When she runs, she may appear on a few. She may not. But she will submit herself to the fray of the election and to open forums — in ways that Obama studiously avoided and in fact dreads.

rrpjr on March 1, 2011 at 12:52 PM

If Palin wants to prove she has the mettle to stand up to Ahmadinejad, she has to show the mettle of standing up David Gregory and George Stephanopolous. Her FaceBook/Friendly Media agenda proves she can, like Barack Obama, give a fine interview when gently questioned; it doesn’t prove she can actually stand up to the fire.

I find it interesting that these 2 specific “interviewers” are held up as the standard Palin must meet if she’s to gain credibility. Is it because they are considered fair? Of course not. No one thinks these guys have an ounce of integrity when it comes to interviewing political figures. Everyone knows these 2 especially will always give nothing but softballs to leftists and nothing but attacks to everyone else.

For this reason alone, such “interviews” should be avoided at all costs. They have no intention of finding out what Sarah Palin thinks about anything. Their only job, as they see it, is to destroy anyone who has even a hint of ability to derail the leftist agenda. Since Palin embodies such abilities, they will continue to ignore her actual beliefs and continue to focus solely on anything they can use to make her look bad (or worse, as the damage is done).

runawayyyy on March 1, 2011 at 12:55 PM

When Christie and Ace say that she needs to be tested by fire, they do not mean by some nobody from long island in a video only Palinistas could dig out of obscurity. They were talking about the Sunday morning talk shows where liberally biased journalists spend all week formulating questions that are impossible to respond to with talking points, require thinking and some times policy making on your feet.

tommylotto on March 1, 2011 at 12:34 PM

No, they were talking about people who would attack her, in any way they wanted, using whatever information they cared to use (even if they had to make it up, and they have), knowing full well that the rest of the media would willingly cover for them by calling their total lack of journalistic ethics “brave”, or “speaking truth to power”. Hell, they’ll even be given the highest rated circle jerk journalism awards on the planet.

Do you honestly believe that obama would be asked a single tough question by any of these clowns? If it was going to happen we would have seen it by now.

runawayyyy on March 1, 2011 at 1:02 PM

“But Chris Christie, and I, are bad people for noting this, or bad people for wondering what it will take for Palin to reverse her horrible unfavorable ratings.”

She is the most vilified woman in the history of the lamestream media. It is not self-inflicted damage, it’s the result of fear and loathing Ace. If I shot you in the knee would it be fair to criticize the way you walk?

In the same way, imagine all the self-inflicted damage Obooba would need to repair were he accurately reported on by the same far-left press she must overcome daily.

You’re being just a little short-sighted here champ.

Akzed on March 1, 2011 at 1:23 PM

Do you honestly believe that obama would be asked a single tough question by any of these clowns? If it was going to happen we would have seen it by now.

runawayyyy on March 1, 2011 at 1:02 PM

Your summaries said it better than mine.

In fact, to my knowledge Obama only faced a single — ONE –challenging follow-up MSM question during the entire 2008 campaign. It was Stephanopoulis asking him about his opposition to capital gains tax cuts. The storm of peer outrage that engulfed Stephanopoulis ensured he would never repeat that solecism.

The only opportunity for Palin in appearing on these malicious clown shows is to deconstruct the leftist argument and engage in a hostile square off with the clown. But I really don’t think it’s her style.

rrpjr on March 1, 2011 at 1:30 PM

Palin/Perry in 2012.They represent the two largest energy states. They have dealt with and solved problems in their states that are microcosms of national problems.It wouldn’t hurt that they would look like Ken and Barbie on TV. BTW there is no one in the Republican party that could be worse than this Trojan horse Muslim Kenyan impostor that has been elected. Obama is the worst liar and clueless President in American history.Four more years of his BullSh**t will bankrupt the country.

Marco on March 1, 2011 at 1:35 PM

In this clip it seems like she just talks endlessly a list of talking points that she’s used many times.
It’s not an off-the-cuff conversation or a back-and-forth.

I know she can talk in an unscripted way, but this clip is not an example of that.

And btw, no matter how many times people say she is smart (I think she is), she isn’t very eloquent.

AlexB on March 1, 2011 at 2:11 PM

These last two weeks has been very clarifying:

Thune & Daniels are dead as a POTUS candidates
The GOP establishment is more pathetic than ever (Rove & Co)
Christie is diminishing in stature

Norwegian on March 1, 2011 at 2:24 PM

And btw, no matter how many times people say she is smart (I think she is), she isn’t very eloquent.

AlexB on March 1, 2011 at 2:11 PM

If true, it won’t matter. The “eloquence” fallacy has been exposed and destroyed. The 2012 market demand will be for authenticity. Palin is clear and direct — and colloquially appealing and authentic — and this will be what matters. The people will be starved for it by 2012.

rrpjr on March 1, 2011 at 2:56 PM

Is there anyone out there who’s stance on all the critical issues have been made crystal clear, and with whom you agree on the majority of those positions? That is your candidate.

If you employ another criterion, most likely some pathetic “electability” concept, you are a fool.

I’ll keep saying this until it sinks in. Bill Clinton was unelectable in February of 1992.

Freelancer on March 1, 2011 at 3:15 PM

If you hide in your bunker and only communicate to the public through Twitter, Facebook and reality TV shows, and every time you venture into the MSM with an interview from a hostile biased journalist you cause a sensation by saying something stupid, you get another thing, and it’s not called respect.

tommylotto on March 1, 2011 at 12:34 PM

You obviously haven’t been paying attention.

Amjean on March 1, 2011 at 3:37 PM

And btw, no matter how many times people say she is smart (I think she is), she isn’t very eloquent.

AlexB on March 1, 2011 at 2:11 PM

No, she doesn’t have the gift of gab like the Beltway politicos have.

I really think that if the Liberals gave her a chance, and actually took the time to more carefully observe her they’d (not all of course) would probably warm up to her.

Yeah, she’s very conservative but I think that she really cares about people and would do better than most Republicans in the area of social issues, but without just signing bills that would throw money around and handouts to encourage people to stay at home 24/7.

She also has a kind of quirkiness about her and I think a Bohemian streak that all but the most bitter/a$$holish ultra-Conservatives and mad dog Commies could appreciate.

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 1, 2011 at 6:51 PM

She also has a kind of quirkiness about her and I think a Bohemian streak that all but the most bitter/a$$holish ultra-Conservatives and mad dog Commies could appreciate.

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 1, 2011 at 6:51 PM

Well said.

rrpjr on March 1, 2011 at 7:26 PM

I wouldn’t call it so much a higher standard — which implies a yearning for something better — as a disingenuous method of endless attack. It has a certain elegance and cover to it. There is misogyny involved, and envy, and elitism.

rrpjr on March 1, 2011 at 11:00 AM

Exactly.
Misogyny by both the effete, liberal-elite metro-sexuals and by those on the right who believe a woman’s only place is in the home.
Envy from the ugly, divorced (or never marriage-worthy in the first place), entitled liberal women (think Rosie, Garafalo, Behar, etc.) and envy from the conservative women who are part of the boy’s club establishment (mostly those who agree with the idea that women belong in the home, or who are die-hard Mitt or Huck supporters). All previously mentioned but the die-hard Mitt and Huck supporters fall under the elitism category.

It’s fascinating to watch fellow conservative women pick Palin apart. The idea that she doesn’t speak eloquently enough is hogwash if you’ve ever taken a course in journalism or writing in general. The rule of thumb is to write/speak as though your audience is twelve years old if you don’t have information telling you they are more highly educated. Obama talks to us as if we were three years old.

I’m not into the whole “anybody but Obama!” deal but there are quite a few viable candidates out there, including Palin, who would at least give our Republic a chance at becoming economically stable and self-sufficient again.

NTWR on March 1, 2011 at 7:59 PM

tommylotto on March 1, 2011 at 12:34 PM

The clip was edited down from about an hour. That information was readily available as is the entire vid of the question and answer session (where do you think AP got the edited vid from? Hint, look at the upper right corner of the vid). If you want to see the entire vid or familiarize yourself with Palin’s positions just go to C4P.org and watch any of the many videos that they have posted of her many speeches.

If you want to remain less informed about the former Governor, keep on doing what it appears you have been doing…

Gohawgs on March 1, 2011 at 8:54 PM

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