NY Times Blows Story on Drilling “Dangers” UPDATE: Another Fact Check Fail
posted at 10:10 am on February 28, 2011 by Jazz Shaw
There seems to be little question remaining over whether or not there is a rather blatant agenda in some segments of the media when it comes to natural gas drilling in this country. For the latest example, one need look no further than Ian Urbina’s latest piece in the New York Times with the excitable title, Regulation Lax as Gas Wells’ Tainted Water Hits Rivers.
Never one to soft sell a good meme, the Times skips right past any of the normal environmental hazards associated with energy exploration and goes right for… radiation!
With hydrofracking, a well can produce over a million gallons of wastewater that is often laced with highly corrosive salts, carcinogens like benzene and radioactive elements like radium, all of which can occur naturally thousands of feet underground. Other carcinogenic materials can be added to the wastewater by the chemicals used in the hydrofracking itself.
One of the dominant themes in the Times’ “analysis” is that drilling waste water – possibly containing radioactive particles (more on that below) – is being improperly dumped into waste water treatment plants by greedy energy companies. They do this, according to the author, because they are under-regulated and looking to save money. To back up the assertion, they quote former Pennsylvania Dept. of Environmental Protection secretary John Hanger.
“There are business pressures” on companies to “cut corners,” John Hanger, who stepped down as secretary of the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection in January, has said. “It’s cheaper to dump wastewater than to treat it.”
Records back up that assertion.
Well, he should certainly be in a position to know, so that must be some damning testimony, eh? Well… it would be, had the author actually spoken to Mr. Hanger for the article or even had a clue what he was talking about. But he didn’t and John quickly took to his blog to set the record straight and to point out that the quoted comments related to a different situation and that his actual position was almost precisely the opposite of that portrayed in the Times.
“[T]hough I am quoted in the piece, this reporter never interviewed me. … The words that I find myself saying in this piece were said by me somewhere at some time and in some context but they were not said in the context of an interview for this piece. The reporter never called me after January 18th for any purpose including to confirm the quotation that he put together for me. The reporter did not ask the new administration for my contact information after I left office.”
“I was informed by agency radiation experts that the radiation levels were not a threat to truck drivers, workers at sewage treatment facilities or the public. … I believe the agency staff were handling this issue in a serious, careful manner. I still believe that to be the case.”
The beginning of the article is discussing “radioactive elements” found in waste water from drilling sites and makes quite a fuss over it. Can you find unstable particles in such water? Yes. They’re known as Naturally Occurring Radioactive Materials, and in this part of the country you find them in minute quantities if you drill for oil and gas. Or if you dig for coal, or copper or gravel. And if you dig a well down to the aquifer to obtain drinking water for your home, you’ll find them there also. When you dig a basement / foundation for a new home you’ve got a fairly good chance of stirring a few up. They are in the ground all over the planet.
NORM deposits are obviously something to be aware of and sensible precautions are required. But the density of these materials is so low that it is diluted in any major water flow to levels which fall far below any environmental standards, as Hanger further notes.
Once the Times finishes with their headline grabbing lede about radiation (!) in the water, the article then seems to go on in a scatter-shot fashion to throw mud at any wall they can find to see if something will stick. Their second line of attack moves from Eastern PA and NY out to Western Pennsylvania, where evil energy companies made the water so unsafe that residents were advised to drink bottled water instead of the public drinking water supply.
And recent incidents underscore the dangers. In late 2008, drilling and coal-mine waste released during a drought so overwhelmed the Monongahela that local officials advised people in the Pittsburgh area to drink bottled water. E.P.A. officials described the incident in an internal memorandum as “one of the largest failures in U.S. history to supply clean drinking water to the public.”
It’s true that a 2008 recommendation was made favoring the use of bottled water in the Pittsburgh area. But one look at their water safety report for that year shows that the concerns over water quality cover a wide range of problems, including agricultural run-off and unrelated industrial activity, with drilling of any sort falling far down the list. Oh, and then there’s the little matter of faulty sewage treatment plants.
Pittsburgh’s waste treatment plant Alcosan (North Shore) dumps an estimated 21 billion gallons of raw sewage into the river every year… They were fined 1.6 million dollars for violating the clean water act.
The hit piece then leaves the Marcellus shale entirely and swings all the way out west to Texas, where families in “affected areas” are suffering troubling health problems. The quotes from this section immediately got one concerned citizen up in arms over yet another tragic “fracking victim.”
In Texas, which now has about 93,000 natural-gas wells, up from around 58,000 a dozen years ago, a hospital system in six counties with some of the heaviest drilling said in 2010 that it found a 25 percent asthma rate for young children, more than three times the state rate of about 7 percent.
“It’s ruining us,” said Kelly Gant, whose 14-year-old daughter and 11-year-old son have experienced severe asthma attacks, dizzy spells and headaches since a compressor station and a gas well were set up about two years ago near her house in Bartonville, Tex.
Wait… what? I’ve seen a lot of ills laid at the doorstep of fracking in the past, but… asthma? Because of one well and a compressor station near your home? And this startling conclusion is drawn even though the very same paragraph in the article goes on to point out, “The industry and state regulators have said it is not clear what role the gas industry has played in causing such problems, since the area has had high air pollution for a while.”
Gee. I wonder what might play a larger role in asthma rates? Nearly inert natural gas rigs or rampant air pollution combined with the usual particles found in an area with naturally high levels of dust, pollen, molds and other airborne irritants?
File this article under the heading of one more attempt to prevent the development of any domestic energy supplies unless they fit in with the green /renewable energy agenda. And that’s the same agenda which, while it may serve a great purpose in the future, still can’t finance itself without massive government subsidized support.
UPDATE: Further in the article, the Times uncovers what must certainly be some sort of conspiracy.
A confidential industry study from 1990, conducted for the American Petroleum Institute, concluded that “using conservative assumptions,” radium in drilling wastewater dumped off the Louisiana coast posed “potentially significant risks” of cancer for people who eat fish from those waters regularly.
Ooooo… a confidential study. Sounded pretty shady to me, so I contacted a representative of the American Petroleum Institute to find out why they would be keeping such blockbuster information secret from the public. As it turns out, that study has been public for almost two decades and the results aren’t quite what the Times implies.
The API study mentioned in the NYT article was not confidential. In fact, it was turned into API Publication 4532 and published in 1991. Furthermore, it discusses the health risk associated with radium radiation and concludes, “The number of excess cancers predicted per year is comparable to the number expected to result from background concentrations of radium. Because of the many conservative assumptions incorporated into this screening-level analysis, it can be concluded that the risks associated with the discharge of produced water to coastal Louisiana is small.”
Was anything in this article fact checked before they ran it?
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The left is enjoying this.
Where is the ACLU?
cozmo on May 15, 2013 at 10:12 PM
…Lying!
KOOLAID2 on May 15, 2013 at 10:12 PM
OT (or is it?): via Twitchy – IRS faces class action lawsuit for stealing 60 million medical records.
VibrioCocci on May 15, 2013 at 10:13 PM
TNR re-affirms its irrelevancy.
BobMbx on May 15, 2013 at 10:14 PM
…THIS IS NOW AMERICA!…thank you JugEars!
KOOLAID2 on May 15, 2013 at 10:15 PM
isn’t that like telling a rape victim that she asked for it?
natasha333 on May 15, 2013 at 10:16 PM
The IRS IS the strong arm, time it was DEFUNDED!
Get rid of this hideous monster called the IRS!
Scrumpy on May 15, 2013 at 10:16 PM
This is exactly, precisely, what tyranny looks like. These people make the King who we defeated back in the 18th Century look like a piker.
Death by pen and force of law is death nonetheless.
TXUS on May 15, 2013 at 10:18 PM
… as a result, the backlash will probably do far more good for the Tea Party than harm done given the type of small groups that were affected.
ACLU has already been very loud and clear about how it perceives behavior at the IRS.
http://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech-technology-and-liberty/irs-abuses-power-targeting-tea-party
bayam on May 15, 2013 at 10:18 PM
One fine day the worm is going to turn and you jackhats are going to find yourselves on the outside looking in, and I sincerely hope someone slams the door in your faces so hard that even your shadows bleed.
Scumbags are just being polite, if they said what they really believe the gun stores would be stripped bare of everything down to the carpet nails soon after.
Bishop on May 15, 2013 at 10:18 PM
Obama is for the little guy in the same manner that Tybalt was for Mercutio.
jaydee_007 on May 15, 2013 at 10:18 PM
You had to know it was only a matter of time before the presstitutes started their Tea Party attacks. They cannot help themselves.
natasha333 on May 15, 2013 at 10:19 PM
What I don’t understand is this; when these people were working with the IRS and started getting the runaround, why didn’t they go to their reps and/or their senators and get them involved? Start raising hell themselves.
Mirimichi on May 15, 2013 at 10:20 PM
The Left was stripped of their fine, civilized suits and ties only to reveal the dirty uniform of a bloodthirsty Commissar underneath. And these Commissars make up most the federal bureaucracy, BTW, and do most of the actual day-to-day governing.
Punchenko on May 15, 2013 at 10:20 PM
Yeah, just like you, move along nothing to see here. The lightbringer will save all our souls.
cozmo on May 15, 2013 at 10:20 PM
It’s time to clean house. There can be no fixing that which is so very broken.
turfmann on May 15, 2013 at 10:23 PM
Is the New Republic still in print? I didn’t see it last time. I should have checked the fiction aisle.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 15, 2013 at 10:27 PM
Pay attention folks. Watch for this line of reasoning to go mainstream. Hot Air just helped it along considering TNR circulation hovers around 50k.
Nobody here can accuse me of being partial to the Tea Party, usually referred by me as “Tea Party extremists.” I consider the entire movement an albatross around the neck of Republicans.
That being said, I hope America sees justice on this. There is nothing more chilling than using IRS against citizens. IRS — most people are dreadfully afraid of those three letters. IRS agents know this. Feds know this. That is why it is so wrong.
Imagine filling out a college financial-aid app or census form and having armed police knocking on your door in response to your filing. The IRS response has been that inordinate. I cannot recall another recent episode during which the government purposefully intimidated citizens into compliance.
Unfortunately I do not consider any group more extreme than the IRS. I will never be quenched of that feeling. There is nothing one can do except keep good records. Taxes are the only reason I still have paper documents in a firebox. Everything else can be digitized…not expense receipts, not for 5-7 years.
Yes, I still hold fast to the idea that TP membership is largely comprised of extremists.
Capitalist Hog on May 15, 2013 at 10:28 PM
From Bayams’ ACLU link
The real intent. A level playing field where none is required.
It pisses liberals off to no end when they get out spent, but when their candidate spends way more than an opponent, its an exercise in democracy.
Pffffft
BobMbx on May 15, 2013 at 10:29 PM
The Tea party is not going away.
#war
SparkPlug on May 15, 2013 at 10:29 PM
If you call a circ of 50K “in print.”
I think the local advertiser-rag prints more copies than that to give away for free.
Capitalist Hog on May 15, 2013 at 10:30 PM
Rush talked today about how these bastards deprived an entire movement of their equal right to the political process. From the 2010 landslide moving towards the GOP until 2012 Obama reelection, conservatives were cheated by political thugs. There isn’t a dirty trick in the book of politics that should be off the the table for conservatives anymore.
If we don’t fight back like them, we deserve nothing but obscurity.
smoothsailing on May 15, 2013 at 10:30 PM
Jeffrey Toobin and The New Republic blame the victim for the rape.
jon1979 on May 15, 2013 at 10:30 PM
ObamaCare?
BobMbx on May 15, 2013 at 10:30 PM
Nailed it. +1
SparkPlug on May 15, 2013 at 10:31 PM
Define extremists.
I’ve been to Tea Parties. Grandmothers, grandfathers, parents, children, veterans. Ordinary 4th-of-July people.
INC on May 15, 2013 at 10:31 PM
If the Mooslims or gheys were targeted you yahoos would be cheering this on.
-CH
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This post by MKH is a very nice take down of leftist water carriers. If only Bush were in charge…..
CW on May 15, 2013 at 10:32 PM
TNR’s attempt to use their own total contempt for the law to absolve the IRS of guilt is one of the most twisted rationalizations of government intimidation and coercion I’ve seen.
Nancy Pelosi must be their editor in chief.
INC on May 15, 2013 at 10:33 PM
“She should have vomited and peed on herself … the way the intellectual left has advised to ward off rape. She didn’t do that so it’s her fault she got raped.” — Jeffy Toobin and the editorial board of the New Republic Novel
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 15, 2013 at 10:33 PM
Me too. Didn’t see any extremists. Mittbots are still spewing lies.
SparkPlug on May 15, 2013 at 10:34 PM
I saw a picture of a guy at a TEA party rally with a gun. He was black. Scared the hell out of me. A conservative black guy with a gun. Clearly a herald of Satan.
BobMbx on May 15, 2013 at 10:34 PM
The QOTD will be fun tonight.
joekenha on May 15, 2013 at 10:34 PM
Shocka!
You’re not the sharpest tool in the shed.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 15, 2013 at 10:34 PM
You’re a freaking idiot.
Sat better mods?
smoothsailing on May 15, 2013 at 10:34 PM
:)
INC on May 15, 2013 at 10:35 PM
Force feed C4 to insantiy wolf.
tom daschle concerned on May 15, 2013 at 10:36 PM
Those that makes such statements are liars. They have an agenda and character be damned.
CW on May 15, 2013 at 10:36 PM
Head for the hills IRS! The ACLU posted 4 paragraphs to their blog!
Chuck Schick on May 15, 2013 at 10:37 PM
Whatever your link says, now you see what happens when the MSM outlets don’t report on your complaints. I’ve followed this IRS matter pretty closely, and I haven’t heard the media breathe a word about the ACLU’s position until now. Why? Because MSM outlets don’t report on matters adverse to Obama if they don’t have to do so.
BuckeyeSam on May 15, 2013 at 10:37 PM
::shudder::
be careful. I hear they make some dee-licious pies, probably coffee too…..
ted c on May 15, 2013 at 10:39 PM
Yeah, they couldn’t pass the opportunity to attack Bush. Typical libtards.
malclave on May 15, 2013 at 10:39 PM
I still hold fast to my ideas because if I don’t the facts will blow my ideas away.
SparkPlug on May 15, 2013 at 10:39 PM
No, no, no, this one out tonight from The Atlantic takes the cake:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/05/remember-when-andrew-joseph-stack-flew-a-plane-into-a-texas-irs-building/275887/
You see, Tea Partiers brought the IRS scrutiny on themselves because this guy Joseph Stack flew a plane into an IRS building around the same time when the IRS scrutiny began, and since he was anti-IRS and some liberal columnists tried to call him a Tea Partier (even though it turned out he was really a communist).
I shit you not.
blue13326 on May 15, 2013 at 10:40 PM
Libs like Noam Scheiber don’t have that anxiety. They know if they ‘run afoul of the law’, their lib pals at the IRS will cover their asses.
GarandFan on May 15, 2013 at 10:41 PM
ditto that.
I went to the 828 in DC. Thousands of them…..its a wonder that any of us made it out alive. Funny that the place was spotless after they all left too….Hmm, must’ve been all that union labor that hustled out there and cleaned up the place…./
ted c on May 15, 2013 at 10:42 PM
well those “extremists” i.e ordinary avg Americians are going to take back their government from the thugs and marxists come 2014. the house is goign to get more american and less communist and the Senate will flip to one of red instead of blue and when the Senators see the rightous anger by those “extremists” come Nov 2014 they will move more to the right.
I am sick and tired of the liberal progressive Minority in this country destorying the country my ancestors built. If you want a third world pig sty move somewhere else. America is the last best hope for mankind and freedom and I and many other “extremists” will never allow thugs and petty dictators like Obama and the marxists to destory that hope.
unseen on May 15, 2013 at 10:42 PM
Well, well, well…
… Lookie at this:
Seven Percent Solution on May 15, 2013 at 10:43 PM
Just words, just speeches.
Usually, when the ACLU really wants something done they are in court getting it done. It’s what they do.
Difficultas_Est_Imperium on May 15, 2013 at 10:44 PM
You magnificent b@stard. :)
Axe on May 15, 2013 at 10:45 PM
Yeah – that worked out. Maybe we should try something different next time…
affenhauer on May 15, 2013 at 10:46 PM
Organizing For Access is also a 501(c)4 .. Or at least it will be when they actual file for non-profit status
J_Crater on May 15, 2013 at 10:46 PM
I am curious. What comprises a TP “membership?”
Assuming you’ve been to TP events and meetings. What do you see as extreme?
egmont on May 15, 2013 at 10:47 PM
Some wear silly hats , some have white hair(some blue), and some don’t like the gheys.
/
CW on May 15, 2013 at 10:49 PM
If I were to apply for this sort of thing, I wouldn’t know what information the IRS was legally suppose to have and what isn’t. I bet they received a lot of information they have no business with and they still have it, no matter what comes of this case. If these folks sue and when, they (and other taxpayers) pay their own settlements. So the Left has the info and gets off scott free. What a racket!
Cindy Munford on May 15, 2013 at 10:51 PM
Nahhhh. The Teabaggers will be fine. Obamacare gets implemented fully in 2014, Don’t ya know.
WryTrvllr on May 15, 2013 at 10:51 PM
The king of Community Organizing is trying to punish communities from organizing.
Priceless.
portlandon on May 15, 2013 at 10:52 PM
Yes, I still hold fast to the idea that TP membership is largely comprised of extremists.
Capitalist Hog on May 15, 2013 at 10:28 PM
I can’t follow your logic. Those who identify with the Tea Party are extremists because…they’re extremists? Define what you mean by ‘extremists’, please. Do you consider (the now passe) Occupy Wall Street participants as extremists? No? If not, why not?
As an aside, I must say I find your nick, ‘Capitalist Hog’, rather ironic. In the midst of the stealth transformation of the country into an authoritarian socialist superstate, you would call those brave enough to actively oppose that transformation ‘extremists’.
troyriser_gopftw on May 15, 2013 at 10:52 PM
Based on the belief of smaller government? And who gives a flying flip about being a albatross to Republicans? Democrat and Democrat Lite should not be our only choices.
Cindy Munford on May 15, 2013 at 10:54 PM
And most importantly they did the damage before the election stifling the conservative movement. Now we get to hear those that feign sincerity tell us now they’ll get to the bottom of it. Yes what a racket.
CW on May 15, 2013 at 10:54 PM
Interesting. How do you define, what 15-25% of the population as extremist? I guess we are all idiot savants now.
WryTrvllr on May 15, 2013 at 10:56 PM
Balanced budgets and a reduced deficit are extreme. God help us all.
CW on May 15, 2013 at 11:00 PM
The presidential election of 2012 was stolen.
The blockade of conservative groups, and the leaks of Governor Romney’s confidential IRS information made enough of a difference.
The presidential election of 2012 was stolen.
slickwillie2001 on May 15, 2013 at 11:01 PM
Kafka
Thus the tea party must produce proof they have the right to not be taxed in their assembly, or they will be deprived of the means to fund their assembly, and while the right to a funded assembly is a birthright, the right to not be deprived of a funded assembly depends upon subjective worthiness determined by the bureaucrat, who requires access to the hidden chambers of the soul of the tea party. The standards of worthiness will be set after the evidence is examined, lest the evidence produce the incorrect verdict
entagor on May 15, 2013 at 11:01 PM
If I were to apply for this sort of thing, I wouldn’t know what information the IRS was legally suppose to have and what isn’t. I bet they received a lot of information they have no business with and they still have it, no matter what comes of this case. If these folks sue and when, they (and other taxpayers) pay their own settlements. So the Left has the info and gets off scott free. What a racket!
Cindy Munford on May 15, 2013 at 10:51 PM
And then that’s the whole point isn’t it , Mrs Munford? We expect the government to act within the confines and purview of its offices and responsibility. This is what the left was saying the Bush Administration was capable of.
Referring to Mr. Limbaugh agsin, he called it. They telegraph what they fear we’ll see them as. They look at themselves, say, hey we’re capable of this. Then they accuse us of doing it it.
smoothsailing on May 15, 2013 at 11:05 PM
Nope. It was the culmination of MANY years of careful indoctrination in the public school systems.
And once you realize it, we can undo it.
The last 6 months of O’bozo’s 2′nd term he will go full out against guns and home schooling.
Watch for it.
WryTrvllr on May 15, 2013 at 11:08 PM
This is America? This isn’t any different that Germany in the late 1930s.
smoothsailing on May 15, 2013 at 11:08 PM
One reason out of many why you’re a moe ron.
xblade on May 15, 2013 at 11:17 PM
The tea party is made up mostly of people like your parents. Mom and Dad, holding a sign. Making a statement, taking a stand for following the rules and not giving up our liberties…and then going home to cook dinner and go to work the next day. People who played ‘get along to go along’ until they just couldn’t do it anymore and needed to say something.
You might want to stop your caricature and ask yourself a simple question: Are we a free country….or not? Are you tolerant of views other than your own…or not?
GeeWhiz on May 15, 2013 at 11:46 PM
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We still hold fast to the idea that TP membership is largely comprised of normal people.
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Extremism is in the eye of the individual beholder, and always will be.
listens2glenn on May 16, 2013 at 12:02 AM
So if the Tea Party has only themselves to blame for their situation, does that theory hold true for welfare recipients?
Cindy Munford on May 16, 2013 at 12:18 AM
The way the left works is top down. They have one organization such as AACON that gets the 501 number. They then have branch offices in ever city that does whatever that community wants with community organizing and social welfare. When someone donates to the local group they send the money to the federal center who then redistribute it back to where it is needed. There are not 500 organizations on the left that all want their own 501(c)(4) designation just a few but 5000 offices and 5000 groups all under a few umbrellas.
Top down of the left vs. grassroots that are so independent that even in the same city there are many different groups of the right.
In Canada there is something similar to the 501′s. Ezra Levant talked about this, might have been with #OWS or anti-tar sands. When someone hit the donated button they where sent to the Canadian Tides foundation website who was lending them the tax free status. The Tides foundation was the top of the umbrella who then sent money to whoever it wanted and not to the local group to just rent a room to meet in and paint signs.
tjexcite on May 16, 2013 at 12:25 AM
I believe in the Second Amendment, balanced budgets, the law being applied equally, free men, free markets, reasonable taxes, personal privacy, and unobtrusive government. If those outrageous beliefs make me an extremist, we have fallen so very, very far…
BTW… You forgot to call me a racist, asshat… Stay on message…
PointnClick on May 16, 2013 at 1:16 AM
Remember how liberals were so quick to blame the Boston attack on those who might resent Tax Day? Yeah…
They accuse us of hating taxes so much we’d resort to violent lawbreaking to oppose having to pay them. Then they accuse us of being so diligent and compliant in following tax laws–so law-abiding–that we deserve the extra scrutiny of the IRS.
The insane contradictions would be kinda funny if the people who hate us weren’t still in charge.
butterflies and puppies on May 16, 2013 at 1:55 AM
Say? …….. Is not that a different set of rules for conservatives versus progressives? Again
pat on May 16, 2013 at 2:05 AM
The schizoid Left wants to A) reassure people that it should never have happened while B) saying that it is good that it did.
O-crazy.
profitsbeard on May 16, 2013 at 2:24 AM
Still reading HuffPo, I guess? Or is it NPR that you listen to?
Neither can be accused of unbiased reporting.
Reminds me of that saying: Pigs get fed; hogs get slaughtered.
ProfShadow on May 16, 2013 at 6:49 AM
So weren’t Muskie and the Democrats in general similarly asking for it simply by the fact that they opposed the Nixon administration?
ddrintn on May 16, 2013 at 7:11 AM
^ And if the TP groups really wanted to be persecuted martyrs, shouldn’t they have flouted all laws?
ddrintn on May 16, 2013 at 7:16 AM
Fish rot from the head down and when Obama struts and brags about bringing a gun (the IRS?) to his many knife fights, they get the idea quickly.
Time to clean house from top to bottom, or the fish smell will remain forever.
Don L on May 16, 2013 at 7:48 AM
Spoken like a good muslim imam.
“That women deserved to be beaten or raped because you could see her leg.”
acyl72 on May 16, 2013 at 7:48 AM
Yup, but every black widow thinks a homeowners heel coming down on it, thinks that is extreme too.
Nice try, but all anti-Americans think freedom, and doing right, is extreme.
Don L on May 16, 2013 at 7:50 AM
The New Republic does the impossible. They make MSNBC look reasoned and impartial.
Myron Falwell on May 16, 2013 at 7:53 AM
This is right on.
SoonerMarine on May 16, 2013 at 8:23 AM
Excusing Romney’s awful campaign strategy of not trying to fight Obama is not productive by any means. If anything, this should serve as more of an indictment against Mitt.
Worst. Candidate. Ever.
Myron Falwell on May 16, 2013 at 8:35 AM
And the New Republic is the class of left wing journalism, not much left to say as far as honesty and ethics are concerned.
arand on May 16, 2013 at 9:05 AM
As an Austin resident and techno-geek, let me tell you about Joseph Stack.
He was old enough to remember *why* the law forbade the kind of independent consultancy he was trying to run: Through the formative years of Silicon Valley, tech companies would take over entire industrial parks, but only have a handful of actual employees. The guys doing the actual coding and development were all “independent consultants” with no vacation, no sick leave, no overtime, and no sleep. The law was changed this way to force these tech companies to hire the people who are doing the work as employees. Word was filtering back to computer science departments that a CS major was a trap. So when Stack started his consultancy to do actual consulting, he needed to organize his business to not run afoul of the law. He couldn’t manage that.
On top of all that, he was going through a divorce alongside his IRS troubles. He was as big a libtard as tends to live within the city limits of Austin. Politics had nothing to do with what he did. He was simply another idiot an hero.
Sekhmet on May 16, 2013 at 9:07 AM
Yeah, those wacky extremists calling for reasonable taxation and limited government intrusion (you know, like IRS strong-arming for political reasons).
I still remember all those extremist Tea Party gatherings where people shat on police cars, pretended to be run down by cops who were WALKING their motorcycles down clogged steets, and had all those reports of theft, rape and the occasional murder, to say nothing of the riots with the Molotov cocktails and such. Not like those quiet, respectful Occupiers who left their meeting places cleaner than they found them and had zero arrests for any reason that I can recall.
… or do I have those two switched?
The Schaef on May 16, 2013 at 9:16 AM
What is the clinical diagnosis for someone who cannot tell fantasy from reality? Mentally disturbed doesn’t seem precise enough to describe CH’s condition.
dominigan on May 16, 2013 at 9:30 AM
Leading from behind.
As usual, Obama plays us all for fools.
petefrt on May 16, 2013 at 9:30 AM
simon jester doesn’t like this one bit…
Keith_Indy on May 16, 2013 at 10:14 AM
Fixed for accuracy.
pannw on May 16, 2013 at 12:10 PM
Ah, so the illegal and tyrannical actions of the government will go back in time and allow these people to participate in the political process of the last several elections?
Add another defense to the list MKH:
Tyranny is not only ok but it’s beneficial to it’s victims!
gwelf on May 16, 2013 at 1:02 PM
I saw that the other day; but healthcareITnews.com isn’t a source I know so I waited.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottgottlieb/2013/05/15/the-irs-raids-60-million-personal-medical-records/
I think Forbes is probably a more trusted *(or at least mainstream) site for verification. This one appears to be interesting; surprised it doesn’t have any more traction yet outside the right wing and some small blog news organizations.
gekkobear on May 16, 2013 at 1:47 PM
They are deaf and dumb as a fence post. And that’s an insult to the post
hamradio on May 22, 2013 at 7:12 PM
Sorry. I meant “They (ACLU) are deaf and dumb as a fence post.”
Rest of comment OK
hamradio on May 22, 2013 at 8:33 PM