Videos: Say, whatever happened to Obama’s comfy shoes?
posted at 3:35 pm on February 25, 2011 by Ed Morrissey
The pledge in 2007 at a Spartanburg, SC rally could not have been clearer. Barack Obama, then campaigning as an underdog to Hillary Clinton and in desperate need of union support, told a crowd that he would join picket lines as President to keep workers from being denied collective bargaining rights. In fact, Obama said he’d dig up a pair of comfortable shoes to walk the line himself to defend union positions around the country, as the Daily Caller remembers:
If American workers are being denied their right to organize and collectively bargain when I’m in the White House, I’ll put on a comfortable pair of shoes myself — I’ll walk on that picket line with you as president of the United States of America.
That is exactly the scenario claimed by public employee unions in Wisconsin, and not without some merit. Governor Scott Walker’s proposal would limit collective bargaining for most PEUs to wages only, not pensions and benefits, in order to allow the state and localities enough flexibility to balance budgets. So when will Obama put on those comfy shoes? CNBC’s host wanted to know that as well, and last night asked one of the Fleebaggers, state Senator Fred Risser, that same question. Risser said that Obama was a busy man this week:
He’s made several pronouncements in support of what we’re doing and I would not be surprised if he had other matters to keep him busy. But he has publicly announced that he supports the working people. The great middle class in this country is based on the fact that the workers have certain rights. We don’t want the workers’ rights to be eliminated by a fast track, speedy, under suspension of the rules bill which the governor has proposed. That’s why we walked out to give people time to find out what’s really going on.
Well, if that was the case, then the Fleebaggers should already be back — right? Their flight from Wisconsin made this a national story, and it’s fair to conclude that everyone has found out “what’s really going on.” The Assembly debated it for 61 hours, or almost 2 1/2 times the amount of time allowed by Democrats for both chambers of the legislature for their budget-repair bill when they controlled the state.
The promise by Obama was foolish from the beginning, and demonstrated just how little experience he had with executive office. Of course he’s too busy to walk a picket line. But contra Risser, Obama’s been backpedaling on the fight in Wisconsin ever since his ignorant answer on which unions got affected and how. He’s finding the running shoes a lot more comfy now than the picket-walking shoes Obama promised in 2007.
Earlier today, a few readers expressed their disapproval with the continuing use of the term “fleebagger” to describe Wisconsin state Senators who fled the legislature rather than do their jobs. I like the term, but let’s ask readers. Should we continue to use it or not? Take the poll!
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*loud groan with massive eyeroll*
Who cares if it’s juvenile? We’re not exactly dealing with adults.
Emboldens/gives credence to? Are you kidding? Do you really think the left cares about the right’s opinion of the use of the term? It doesn’t embolden them either. They’ll be just as vile as the day before.
bloghooligan on February 25, 2011 at 4:16 PM
Looks like the no’s are getting walloped in that poll.
Concerned etiquette posters get more concerned.
Bishop on February 25, 2011 at 4:16 PM
The term ‘fleebagger’ reminds me of ‘carpetbagger’ but also of the signs that used to be in taverns during the digging of the Erie canal… that was ‘No Dogs, No Irish’ and so today it would be ‘Service Animals Allowed, No Fleebaggers’.
Really its quite a descriptive term… keep using it.
And Obama’s comfy shoes go with the mom pants that he has. When he drags out one, the other will come with it.
ajacksonian on February 25, 2011 at 4:17 PM
I prefer the alternative.
shick on February 25, 2011 at 4:17 PM
It is perfectly descriptive, sarcastically connotative and suits the situation aptly. Burn it up.
BL@KBIRD on February 25, 2011 at 4:17 PM
I personally oppose the use of the term “fleebagger”, because it sounds just too darn nice.
I prefer just the simple, straightforward, and directly to the point word “coward”, with the possible inclusion of words such as lowdown, snivelling, or yellowbellied.
pilamaye on February 25, 2011 at 4:18 PM
Long live “fleebaggers”.
Hog Wild on February 25, 2011 at 4:18 PM
Aren’t we better than that? Aren’t we better than having to resort to calling names? It’s so childish.
How can we help with the recalls? That’s what I want to know!!
Pablo Snooze on February 25, 2011 at 4:19 PM
If Race Tard were here, he would whip us into shape.
BL@KBIRD on February 25, 2011 at 4:19 PM
Fleebaggers? What’s wrong with a-holes?
Ronnie on February 25, 2011 at 4:20 PM
fleebaggers suck.
search4truth on February 25, 2011 at 4:20 PM
Fleebaggers is infinitely less offensive than Teabaggers, though I personally don’t get all wee wee-ed up over a stupid phraseology.
Fleebaggers refers to a specific group of people, 19 democrats in Wisconsin and however many from Indiana. Teabaggers was a term with a sexual connotation used to describe anyone against socialism. Vastly different.
And entirely silly to argue over.
BKeyser on February 25, 2011 at 4:20 PM
Isn’t there racism in combining a black man with loose fitting shoes. Just ask Earl Butz.
rjoco1 on February 25, 2011 at 4:20 PM
Shoes in action.
Schadenfreude on February 25, 2011 at 4:21 PM
We should be careful how we label people… perhaps No Labels.
MeatHeadinCA on February 25, 2011 at 4:21 PM
Yes, FLEEBAGGERS FTW!! Also, I like to refer to these cowards as the Flee Party!
Keef Overbite on February 25, 2011 at 4:21 PM
Wisconsin GOP legislator or citizen calls Wisconsin DEM a “fleebagger” = Funny
Major media commentator calls Wisconsin DEM a “fleebagger” = Unprofessional
To me.
DaydreamBeliever on February 25, 2011 at 4:22 PM
I don’t particularly care for the term “Fleebaggers”, because it’s stupid. But I’m not really concerned one way or the other if other people use it; using it helps quickly identify people into a certain group.
Abby Adams on February 25, 2011 at 4:23 PM
Only if it involves a warm place, rjoco
khacha on February 25, 2011 at 4:23 PM
I like. :)
Bee on February 25, 2011 at 4:23 PM
Terms like “anti-democratic fascists” specifically describe these people without being insulting and remaining professional. “Fleebaggers” takes the low road in using a sexually derogatory term and using it as an insult.
While arguments like, “We’re not dealing with fair people or adults,” or “They deserve it.” maybe true the ends doesn’t justify the means. If it does, then we should follow that logic and cease being a peaceful resistance and against our oppresors and “get bloody”.
Not for me thank you. Christ said to turn the other cheek and to give him who asks for your shirt to give him your coat as well.
God has tough and seemingly unreasonable standards but he knows best.
shick on February 25, 2011 at 4:24 PM
can we distribute little yellow ribbons for lapels, or have the citizens of the good state of WI tie some yellow ribbons around a few old, oak trees in hopes of their yellow-bellied, spineless representatives to return? Perhaps put their pictures on a milk carton, alas–the kiddos would never see them since they ain’t be in skool (or are they back yet?).
ted c on February 25, 2011 at 4:25 PM
Yes, let’s just sit back and let the fleebagger party run all over us. Let’s tell our own people to just shut up and stop using names, labels, just chuckle and let them spew hate at us and not fight back….Hey, I have an idea… let’s nominate Juan McCain for president again.
It has worked so well for us in the past.
HornetSting on February 25, 2011 at 4:25 PM
“And I said: “My name is ‘Sue!’ How do you do!
Well, I hit him hard right between the eyes
And he went down, but to my surprise,
He come up with a knife and cut off a piece of my ear.
But I busted a chair right across his teeth
And we crashed through the wall and into the street
Kicking and a’ gouging in the mud and the blood and the beer.”
(Thanks, Johnny Cash)
There isn’t any time left to be nice. If you aren’t willing to get down “in the mud and the blood and the beer” and fight, then go sit in the bleachers and watch, Sue.
Yoop on February 25, 2011 at 4:25 PM
He’s not aging well at all…if it’s even him we’re seeing.
SouthernGent on February 25, 2011 at 4:25 PM
Hehhh!! Perfect
ted c on February 25, 2011 at 4:26 PM
I’m just glad we made Obabacare a household word too…
golfmann on February 25, 2011 at 4:26 PM
Hot Air should continue to call them Flea-Baggers, but you should also start calling Michelle Bachmann, and Rand Paul Tea-Baggers.
There is nothing wrong with being a tea bagger.
MitchFlorida on February 25, 2011 at 4:26 PM
The sad state of the Right. We actually feel impelled to solicit a poll over a perfectly respectable bit of political persiflage as we are lashed day in and day out by filthy-mouthed feral children.
I could not come up with a better illustration of the stupefyingly self-destructive and anti-historical pacificist “logic” that hides behind highmindedness.
Forfend we embolden the Left! Nevermind that “tea bagger” was born from the emboldening we gave the Left by our unfailingly civil petitions of the government.
Embrace the pejorative!
rrpjr on February 25, 2011 at 4:26 PM
Hahahaha, I’d say that was a statement all right. He said the same thing to Americans stranded in Libya.
As for the term fleebaggers, I don’t care because it doesn’t have the same meaning as teabaggers. But aren’t they kind of like carpetbaggers?
scalleywag on February 25, 2011 at 4:27 PM
Fleebagger can be thought of as a variation on carpetbagger. Nothing to do with teabagger. Plus flee is a variation of flea, which also makes sense as fleas also suck our blood and can cause great harm, such as the Bubonic Plague years.
rbj on February 25, 2011 at 4:27 PM
That whole turn the other cheek thing only works with basically decent people. That isn’t who we are dealing with.
sharrukin on February 25, 2011 at 4:28 PM
Yes, let them. God has a standard. We’ll point it out. Continue to point out their hypocrisy. But don’t go where we should not. Crossing that line sends one down the wide path to destruction and not the narrow path to salvation.
shick on February 25, 2011 at 4:29 PM
The first time I read the term I about split my sides from laughter and thought, “we finally have something more clever to push back on that degrading teabagger term”. However, after a few days I noticed myself using it less and less because I just didn’t feel right, it feels dirty. lol I don’t believe it is who conservatives are, I believe we are better than that.
I understand that many will say you need to fight fire with fire, but I prefer to take (what I believe to be) the moral high ground and shut down the dems. with ideas, debates and in many cases their own incriminating words. I know for a fact that we have better ideas and those ideas are what we should continue to make the focal point, not some derogatory name that is meant to injure or insult.
I’m a relatively young conservative (26) so I may just not understand the world of politics as good as most, but that’s my take.
TampaBayBull on February 25, 2011 at 4:29 PM
Fleebagger is in no way equivalent to what the progs call the Tea Party members. If ‘fleebagger’ was a perverse homosexual act, and if calling someone a fleebagger was to imply that they are homosexuals, that would be different. It’s a completely justified term and has no hidden meanings.
slickwillie2001 on February 25, 2011 at 4:32 PM
I’m not sure if the term ‘fleebagger’ is going to send us all to hell.
HornetSting on February 25, 2011 at 4:33 PM
EXACTLY. This is politics, it ain’t croquet. The libtards did away with gentlemanly etiquette long, long ago. It’s high time we beat them at their own game.
Dominion on February 25, 2011 at 4:33 PM
I voted yes ’cause it’s a catchy term and doesn’t have other connotations. I would have preferred sandbagger, but that applies moreso to the union thugs on the protest lines.
Dusty on February 25, 2011 at 4:35 PM
Ed,
This is how our nation has been deserted by God in the first place. By following our own selfish desires rather than doing what God has told us how to love one another. We are called to love lazy, selfish, arrogant and scheming people because he loves us even though we are hypocrites.
shick on February 25, 2011 at 4:35 PM
Yeah, I know. The kind of people in a certain group you’d hide behind in a crowd of screaming SEIU thugs.
RepubChica on February 25, 2011 at 4:38 PM
Definitely keep the term. As for O protesting, he’s already doing his part to foment unrest with the DNC and OfA. But, he DID promise to take part. Another broken promise in a long list of broken promises.
http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/ed-schultz-issues-warning-to-obama-come-to-madison-or-be-a-one-term-president
jdawg on February 25, 2011 at 4:39 PM
Panties, unwad thyself!
Bee on February 25, 2011 at 4:41 PM
+10,000
What do you call a WI democrat that will soon be booted out of office?
*FLEEBEGGAR*
HornetSting on February 25, 2011 at 4:41 PM
“Raca” translated means fool.
shick on February 25, 2011 at 4:41 PM
Ruh roh…
Gingrich: Obama Sparks ‘Constitutional Crisis,’ Raises Impeachment Specter
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petefrt on February 25, 2011 at 4:42 PM
The civility of the left is rubbing off on you.
shick on February 25, 2011 at 4:43 PM
Now THAT is funny!
TampaBayBull on February 25, 2011 at 4:43 PM
On Drudge, Newt has mentioned Obama and impeachment, but can’t get in to read the article. Good on him – I wondered when someone was going to have the spine to bring this up and how long we all had to sit here and watch this $hithead in the White House destroy our country without doing something to put a stop to it.
silvernana on February 25, 2011 at 4:44 PM
Blaring Drudge siren:
“Imagine that Governor Palin had become president. Imagine that she had announced that Roe versus Wade in her view was unconstitutional and therefore the United States government would no longer protect anyone’s right to have an abortion because she personally had decided it should be changed. The news media would have gone crazy. The New York Times would have demanded her impeachment.”
Abby Adams on February 25, 2011 at 4:46 PM
You want heat in a blog. Just tell someone that they should stop doing what’s wrong when they don’t want to.
shick on February 25, 2011 at 4:47 PM
Well, it’s easy to see why our kind is getting walloped out on the streets. How pathetic. Have a good evenin’ all. See you on the sting side, Hornet. ;-)
RepubChica on February 25, 2011 at 4:48 PM
We’re using the “I” word now? Finally someone broke the ice. Thank you , Newt.
petefrt on February 25, 2011 at 4:49 PM
It’s not very christian to call someone, even citing scripture to back your view, a fool. You just broke your own rules.
HornetSting on February 25, 2011 at 4:51 PM
As a theologian, you’d be more correct in saying it’s my nature itself coming forth, not something externally corrosive.
But I’m no theologian and it’s a JOKE. Even Christ laughed. In fact, look at creation itself and tell me God doesn’t have a sense of humor. Ever seen the blobfish? A sloth? Dirty hippies? A fleebagger? See? Funny.
Bee on February 25, 2011 at 4:51 PM
You seem more concerned with yourself and your own moral standing than in actually accomplishing anything. Perhaps you should retire to a monastery somewhere and pray for our souls.
In this vale of tears called the real world such an attitude does not convert the wicked or embarrass them to better conduct. It encourages them to further attacks. They prefer their victims to be as weak and harmless as possible.
sharrukin on February 25, 2011 at 4:52 PM
Christ wasn’t shy about calling specific groups of folks out as ‘brood of vipers’, running off the moneychangers, etc. Nothing wrong with a bit of righteous indignation when warranted.
Christ also said a lot of other things – what makes you bring up the shirt/coat reference? Is that relevant in any way? Are you suggesting that if the Dems/unions ask for collective bargaining, a raise, and to pay none of their benefits cost – that taxpayers should give them even more than they ask for? Exactly what, in that regard, is your point?
Midas on February 25, 2011 at 4:53 PM
The circumstances point to the need to impeach the idiot Eric Holder, not Bammie. It’s Holder’s job to uphold the law, not to do what Bammie tells him to do. The New Black Panther debacle, and the Mexican Gun-Walker scam should also be enough.
slickwillie2001 on February 25, 2011 at 4:54 PM
lol lyke, ok, calm down and bag yer face.
I ~really~ don’t care about the use. I voted No in the poll because as I said, I think it reads dumb and sounds juvenile.
I only responded in the comments that I voted no because of the insane crazy responses that read to me as “OMG WHO WOULD VOTE NO?! MAKE YOURSELVES BE KNOWN NOW GOSH WHAT ARE YOU A ROLLEROVER SQUISH ACKCKKAJSGPPAPPSP!~!1!1!!!”
Lawdy.
lansing quaker on February 25, 2011 at 4:55 PM
I hope Newt (if that’s a quote from him) is attributing the ‘imagine President Palin decided Roe v. Wade was unconstitutional and decided the DoJ wouldn’t defend it anymore’ to the original author of a couple of days ago; Levine read the original piece on the air yesterday.
Midas on February 25, 2011 at 4:56 PM
Didn’t he put on shoes and march in Selma?
SouthernGent on February 25, 2011 at 4:59 PM
Mark Levin (added an ‘e’ above, sorry Mark) has been talking about the current ‘constitutional crisis’ for days – since the Obama administration immediately ignored the federal judge ruling that Obamacare was unconstitutional. I’m glad Gingrich is talking about it as well and bringing more attention to it.
Midas on February 25, 2011 at 5:01 PM
Image that new POTUS administration in January 2013 declares Obamacare unconstitutional.
petefrt on February 25, 2011 at 5:02 PM
Uh oh! Providence, RI fires all teachers. Vague on value of seniority for rehire.
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2011/02/25/city_fires_every_school_teacher.html
a capella on February 25, 2011 at 5:04 PM
We used to refer to my choice of really cheap motels as FLEAbag motels. Since tax and steal Dimocrats are carpet baggers holed up in a fleabag motel the term works on several levels without any vulgarity stated nor implied. Liberals can’t get out of the sewer long enough to appreciate wit, humor, or subtle allusions.
Marco on February 25, 2011 at 5:05 PM
That sounds like a lawyer joke.
“What do you call 1926 public schoolteachers on the unemployment line?”
“A good start.”
teke184 on February 25, 2011 at 5:06 PM
Not that I would use the term, but conservatives have had to put up with outrageous name-calling from the left on a daily basis, so I have no qualms about others providing a little payback. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
zoyclem on February 25, 2011 at 5:07 PM
Remove thy sequoia from thy sphincter, douche. Nothing of the left rubs off on Bee.
MadisonConservative on February 25, 2011 at 5:09 PM
Tempted to retort “get used to disappointment” a la Princess Bride but as others have said above, it gives legitimacy to “teabagger,” which as we all know is a disrespectful and unacceptable term for tea partiers.
Works for me too. And it’s more accurate term to boot.
inviolet on February 25, 2011 at 5:10 PM
I hasten to add that I do find the term funny turnabout. But that doesn’t mean I think it’s right. The term “guilty pleasure” wasn’t invented for nothin’. ;)
inviolet on February 25, 2011 at 5:12 PM
Because teabagger and fleebagger both end with bagger? After the civil war, there were these guys called CARPETBAGGERS that moved into the south…do you want to go back and change THAT term as well because it offends?
One has the connotation of a sexual act. The other has the connotation of a group of spineless jellyfish running to another state to avoid doing their jobs.
There is no similarity there, so you can put your concern card down.
HornetSting on February 25, 2011 at 5:17 PM
I can’t believe we’re actually debating whether or not to use fleebagger.
It’s better than calling them the corrupt, union-owned scum they are.
darwin on February 25, 2011 at 5:23 PM
I’ll be nice and just say, perhaps it doesn’t make YOU think of “teabagger,” but I can guarantee that it makes anyone who’s encountered the term on CNN (Anderson Cooper) or follows any political blog at all associates the two terms – because they rhyme and “teabagger” is more recent than “carpetbagger.” I might agree w/ you if the allusion to carpetbagging had any similarity to what the fleeing Dems are doing now. In fact it’s the opposite: carpetbagging refers to moving someplace to actively accomplish something, not to running away from one’s work.
No concern trolling here — conservative through and through — but I like being fair. I demand respect for conservatives in what we’re called so I like to give it also. If that makes me look holier-n-thou or something, tough s***. I don’t care what you, or they BTW, think of me. But I’d like us to treat them how we rightly demand they treat us, or they very rightly think we approve of us calling them that.
And I think “anti-democratic fascist” at least makes sense as a point, and is better than deriving our insults second-hand from what they call us. Let them wallow in the mud. We can call them out very nicely without reference to their pointless slams.
inviolet on February 25, 2011 at 5:30 PM
For those who can’t get on the newsmax site (think drudge’s link crashed the servers), here is the video on foxnation, listen for yourself, it is about 6 minutes long, and very articulate:
http://nation.foxnews.com/newt-gingrich/2011/02/25/gingrich-obama-sparks-constitutional-crisis-raises-impeachment-specter
karenhasfreedom on February 25, 2011 at 5:30 PM
usthem callingthemus that, obviouslyinviolet on February 25, 2011 at 5:31 PM
I was one who wrote disapprovingly of the “fleebagger” sobriquet this morning. It looks like just about everyone here disagrees with me. I can’t say my mind has been changed but unlike the Democrat State Senators of Wisconsin I say fair enough, the people have expressed their will.
KGB on February 25, 2011 at 5:31 PM
Obviously, not the context I was hoping for, but am grateful that he made the point. Seriously, though, isn’t it time to start mentioning impeachment if we want to have a country left? How much destruction do we have to absorb before someone calls for impeachment?
silvernana on February 25, 2011 at 5:31 PM
Unless ‘fleebaggers’ has taken on some sexual undertone I’m unaware of – it fits them perfectly and should continue to be used.
GarandFan on February 25, 2011 at 5:32 PM
“Fleebagger” is fine with me.
Sounds like an American political term should-quirky and not a term that would arise outside of politics-and not as blatantly obnoxious as “tea bagger”…besides, they started it.
Dr. ZhivBlago on February 25, 2011 at 5:39 PM
inviolet on February 25, 2011 at 5:30 PM
It fits pretty well, except that concerning democrats, they are always going the ‘wrong way’.
Now, if people cannot associate carpetbagger with fleebagger, that tells me the protests in WI are fighting for the wrong cause…they should be ashamed for the sorry state that our education system has found itself.
As far as your ‘I don’t give a sh*t’ claim, I understand you are making your point. And, I’m making mine.
Stay classy.
HornetSting on February 25, 2011 at 5:42 PM
Oh yeah, 89.6 when I took it. Smack down.
wi farmgirl on February 25, 2011 at 5:47 PM
Friday night. Everybody dance…
State Senators had an idea that’s pretty neat,
You gotta vote when you’re in your seat.
They jumped in their cars and hit the street,
Across the state line, they’re gonna meet.
They’re fleebaggin’. They’re fleebaggin’.
They’re fleebaggin’. They’re fleebaggin’.more…
kingsjester on February 25, 2011 at 5:51 PM
From childhood we were warned about carpetbaggers,bedbugs,n damn Yankees.
Later as we grew older we also learned about cowards,most of the time this was preceded with the other two words Chicken hsit, cowards.
Fleebaggers seems so genteel, it might almost be turned into a GawGaw term of endearment,
“Fleebaggers,bless their heart.”
Col.John Wm. Reed on February 25, 2011 at 5:52 PM
They have done that (picture on a milk carton) with one of them in their recall venue. They are recalling one of them today and tomorrow in hopes that they can get enough signatures.
wi farmgirl on February 25, 2011 at 5:55 PM
The term “fleebagger” serves only to legitimize the use of the term “teabagger”. Of course, that term should be considered out of bounds. As someone who only in the past couple of years has begun to embrace the philosophy of Conservatism, I had thought that an aspect of our culture that we seek to preserve would be a certain level of decency in our public discourse. We on the right, justifiably objected to the use of that term when it was aimed at us- our mothers, fathers and grandparents that formed the bulk of the initial Tea Party demonstrations. It was all the more outrageous that it was not merely a term used by anonymous nobodies in blog comments, but actually had been adopted as routine by print journalists, news anchors and even our elected representatives.
For us now to adopt fleebagger, just shows a hypocrisy on our part and further coarsens our the public debate and coarsens society as a whole. And it only disarms us, as the Left’s use of that term was a proof of their depravity.
I’ve watched our society devolve into the muck steadily since I was in elementary school in the 1980′s, and this is exactly how it has played out. Something happens that is completely sick outrageous and unheard of and the public initially reacts against it, yet gradually it’s accepted as now part of the norm. The next outrage is worse and the reaction is even more outrage yet that again is accepted as the norm and so on- at each stage we are define down further.
Teabagger is akin to ni$$er. It’s a base insult and meant to be taken as a provocation. It’s a means of completely dehumanizing your adversary by labeling him as a not a man but as a thing unworthy of basic respect. It should be out of bounds for use in legitimate debate. But now it seems we’ve bended to their will and once again have allowed them to define down the terms of our discourse. If that’s how it’s going, to be then fine-
Cheers queers!
sartana on February 25, 2011 at 5:57 PM
The Fleebaggers
Starring Alec Baldwin and Gwyneth Paltrow.
Coming August 2011
darwin on February 25, 2011 at 5:59 PM
When China and India are ahead of us as super powers i.e. Drudge’s headlines today, we don’t have much time left.
wi farmgirl on February 25, 2011 at 5:59 PM
Dude/dudette
Fleebagger actually refers to the act of fleeing. Apparently something democrats do all the time when faced with a vote they don’t like.
Teabagger is in no way reflective of actual tea partiers.
darwin on February 25, 2011 at 6:01 PM
I think the indignation over “teabagger” is overwrought nonsense and always have so no, I don’t have a problem with “fleebagger.”
Besides the fact that very few people who used the term and even fewer of the people who take offense knew that “teabagger” had a perverse meaning before it was explained to them on the Internet, the word is obviously derisive and dripping with contempt, and thus serves to weaken the impartiality and discredit the person who lets it slip out.
HitNRun on February 25, 2011 at 6:02 PM
What makes me laugh….sickly, is the fact that there are people concerned about the use of the word ‘Fleebagger’ while the middle east burns, WI, OH, NJ are under seige from thug, (oops, is that too ethnic or painful for anyone), thug protestors that during their day jobs, TEACH YOUR CHILDREN, we are squabbling about a darn nabbit word.
Get a clue, Nero.
HornetSting on February 25, 2011 at 6:04 PM
HornetSting on February 25, 2011 at 6:04 PM
Yep. Nero just fiddled. Obama had a Motown Party with Smokey and Stevie.
kingsjester on February 25, 2011 at 6:09 PM
Apparently a call to protest has gone out to every state in the union to protest tomorrow. So watch it on a channel near you. Isn’t that special.
wi farmgirl on February 25, 2011 at 6:11 PM
Well if you have only been a conservative for the past couple of years it would seem that the left’s usage of these sorts of terms didn’t stop you from backing them before that.
A noble loser may still in fact be noble, but he is still a loser and some of us are sick and tired of losing. Genteel conduct and civil discourse hasn’t accomplished a God damned thing and in far too many cases has served to restrict any effective counter to leftist advances in destroying the culture and the economy.
Guys like John McCain who are too civil to debase themselves by attacking Obama on his past. McCain spent his time instead attacking conservatives who weren’t properly respectful of Obama. Others are now paying the price of that civility, but John gets to congratulate himself on what a decent fellow he is, so its all good.
sharrukin on February 25, 2011 at 6:13 PM
“Fleebagger.”
I voted “No,” or, not to continue to use it, but I understand it’s appeal and expected to be in the minority for voting against using it (so, no surprise).
My disapproval of continuing to use it is because it seems to represent a “no, you are,” “no, YOU are,” “no, YOU,” sandbox sort of name-calling with it’s similarity with the Left’s nasty term for Tea Partiers (“teabaggers” – foul term for sexual behavior applied to Tea Partiers instead).
So “fleabagger” is an obvious sort of mimicry and I think it, therefore, lends support for — credence for, acceptance of — a low, low standard in rhetoric begun by the Left.
*BUT* I *ALSO* realize that the Left isn’t concerned with all that ^^. They’re stuck in self-boasting stupidity, enjoying their “teabagger” pejorative…and won’t care about anything I just expressed as to reservations about using their same low standards applied to them this time.
I was reading the term, “fleebagger,” on several comments elsewhere on the internet since yesterday and I figured it out as to what people meant by the term. But, anyway, my preference as explained would be not to use it or anything similar but it’s taken hold by now, so, seems to be the term that fits.
Lourdes on February 25, 2011 at 6:19 PM
I agree but my reaction to the term, “fleebagger,” yesterday was that it seems immature, juvenile, too “Leftist” in style of speech…just sounds too similar to the way Leftists fling these insults about.
AND it only applies to the Democratic Senatorial cowards who took off from their job duties in Wisconsin because they can’t handle the reality of not being able to “rule” in the state at this hour.
So the nationwide protest-riot Thing taking place by the Left really needs a more appropriate, specific term and “fleebagger” fails in that regard.
I agree that the issues are far more important than what term should be used as to who and what, though.
But the site asked the question…
Lourdes on February 25, 2011 at 6:24 PM
Today his Highness signed the extension of the Patriot Act, the same one he railed against when he ran for Eunuch in Chief.
Schadenfreude on February 25, 2011 at 6:26 PM
What’s wrong with India being a superpower? It’s a democratic nation that threw off British imperialism after a long struggle. What’s not to like?
DarkCurrent on February 25, 2011 at 6:26 PM
Yep. Really, a big “yep” about that ^^.
And that’s why McCain just cannot be easily (if ever) forgiven (as in, forgotten) by the Right.
AND why I continue to ask people to please avoid knocking other Republicans as to personalities and such, save the criticisms for the most egregious offenses by those on the Right who are not really on the Right but pose as such and explain why they’re being criticized in some means that’s issue-based.
What I experienced on the internet in the last Presidential election by the McCain people (prior to him receiving the nomination, at which time I did contribute toward his win but in terms of the GOP-to-win moreso than him, etc.)…what I experienced from the McCain people last election was as bad if not often worse than what I read/heard from the Left.
Gotta’ make room for differences of preferences and stick to the issues, gotta’ get our GOP Pres. into the White House Jan. 2013. Remember Reagan’s “11th Commandment”.
Lourdes on February 25, 2011 at 6:29 PM
And yet India continues to be one of the nations from whence a large portion of immigration originates into the U.S. One wonders why so many from India want to come here and use our place if they’re doing so well there…
Lourdes on February 25, 2011 at 6:31 PM
I agree but it’s the term that many now are using. I think it needs to disappear, agree, for the same reasons you express (and I tried to).
It’s another case of the Left creating a very, very ugly, low standard in speech/rhetoric and now the Right piling on at that low, ugly standard.
Lourdes on February 25, 2011 at 6:34 PM
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