Mitch Daniels on Indiana “right to work” law: This isn’t the right time

posted at 5:40 pm on February 22, 2011 by Allahpundit

Alternate headline: “Apparently, Mitch Daniels not running for president.”

Gov. Mitch Daniels signaled this afternoon that Republicans should drop the right-to-work bill that has brought the Indiana House to a standstill for two days and imperiled other measures.

Daniels told reporters this afternoon that he expected House Democrats will return to work if the bill dies. It would be unfortunate if other bills are caught up in the turmoil, he said.

He will not send out state police to corral the Democrats, the Republican governor said.

Daniels claims the Star mischaracterized his comments, insisting that he didn’t tell the legislature to drop the bill but merely said that, in his opinion, they should wait until next term. Why wait? Because, according to Daniels, the right-to-work bill is a big enough deal that it shouldn’t be taken up unless voters are expecting a debate on it. And because the GOP didn’t campaign on it last fall, voters aren’t expecting it this term. Which … is an interesting “good government” principle, but not a convincing one. If you have a legislative advantage, why not press it to advance your agenda and let the public deal with you at the polls next cycle? That’s precisely how the Democrats passed ObamaCare. And yes, they paid dearly for it, but while congressional majorities may come and go, our new health-care law will quite possibly be with us forever. Mitch the Knife, as he’s known for his budget-slashing ways, should be especially prepared to act on big-ticket items when he has the chance, whether they’ve been fully debated in a campaign or not. If he faces off with Obama next year as the nominee, there’s no telling what issue will drive the election: Maybe it’ll be entitlements (in which case we’ll lose) or maybe it’ll be the Middle East or maybe it’ll be something else entirely. If the Medicare debate gets crowded out during the campaign, would a President Daniels refuse to address it because he and The One didn’t talk much about it on the stump?

Mind you, one of Daniels’s very first acts as governor in 2005 was to strip state workers of their collective bargaining rights, which is proof enough that he’s not a squish on labor. (He also expressed support for Scott Walker just yesterday.) Still, it’s unfathomable to me that he’d decline to press hard on unions at a moment when (a) conservatives are hoping to build nationwide momentum against PEUs and (b) the Democratic caucus in Indiana has decided to skip town to obstruct the process there too. At the very least, he could have phrased this as, “I’d prefer to wait until next term to take this up, but if Democrats can’t be bothered to show up, let’s go forward.” Instead, you’ll hear him promise in the clip not to send any state troopers after them, which already has Geraghty (among others) questioning his toughness. Does this guy want to be nominated, despite his apparent willingness to alienate social conservatives and now fiscal conservatives? Or is this final proof that he’s not running after all? Click the image to listen.

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That’s odd, because I remember him saying that he would support her if she’s the nominee.

I remember him constantly sniping on just about every thread with snide little comments just like he is doing here.

I guess I am passive-aggressive also.

Cindy Munford on February 22, 2011 at 8:43 PM

Not from what I have noticed.

sharrukin on February 22, 2011 at 8:46 PM

Cindy Munford on February 22, 2011 at 8:43 PM

through = throw to people who can proof read. SORRY!

Cindy Munford on February 22, 2011 at 8:47 PM

Maybe and so far the only announced candidate seems to be Mr. Herman Cain.

Cindy Munford on February 22, 2011 at 8:45 PM

I meant in policy matters, but I have said numerous times before, If Palin washes out or doesn’t run, I could get on the Cain train. Not my #1 choice, but probably in my top-three. I am not the kind of rapid Palinista who even refuses to consider the fact that she may not run. I’ve thought about that. Long and hard. There are even other candidates besides Palin and Cain that I’ve seriously considered the possibility to vote for. That’s why I take the whole “mind-numbed slathering Palinista” meme just a touch personally.

gryphon202 on February 22, 2011 at 8:47 PM

gryphon202 on February 22, 2011 at 8:45 PM

I don’t remember saying that!.. I am like Cindy ..Remaining open-minded..:)

Dire Straits on February 22, 2011 at 8:48 PM

gryphon202 on February 22, 2011 at 8:47 PM

typing fail…

rapid = rabid

gryphon202 on February 22, 2011 at 8:48 PM

Cindy Munford on February 22, 2011 at 8:41 PM

Your opinion is quite defensible. I took it differently, but may well be wrong. Supposing that he meant it the way you stated, I wouldn’t be happy either with that sentiment. However, I could still see it as an attempt to soothe some feathers to get them to get back to work so he can get his pending legislation passed.

I like but am not sold on Daniels, nor anyone at this point. I don’t see today’s actions or statements by him as a reason to discredit him. Basically I see him as trying to defer the right-to-work fight so that he can get some other priorities accomplished. If anything, I admire his pragmatism.

MJBrutus on February 22, 2011 at 8:49 PM

sharrukin on February 22, 2011 at 8:46 PM

I won’t speak for him but I have always assumed that he thought the devote are a bit hard on the uncommitted.

Cindy Munford on February 22, 2011 at 8:50 PM

I don’t remember saying that!.. I am like Cindy ..Remaining open-minded..:)

Dire Straits on February 22, 2011 at 8:48 PM

Dude, really. Check out:

gryphon202 on February 22, 2011 at 8:47 PM

…and you’ll get my honest thoughts on the 2012 primaries. Palin happens to be my favorite. She’s my #1 pick. I have never thought, nor have I claimed that she is perfect nor is she the be-all and end-all of presidential politics.

gryphon202 on February 22, 2011 at 8:50 PM

The reason the GOP is more worried about this walkout is that the Indiana General Assembly works differently than Wisconsin. There is a deadline looming on Friday where the two houses have to trade the bills they’ve passed thus far in the session. So, after Friday, the House of Reps. will only be able to work on bills that the Senate has approved, which means that the entire Republican agenda for this session is in peril at this hour. If it were just one bill, perhaps Daniels would be more firm, but its probably closer to 40 or 50 of the GOP’s most important priorities this year (all of which the Dem minority would love to kill as well).

If the General Assembly rules worked differently, this wouldn’t be a problem. But after Friday, the House can no longer work on its own merits, it can only consider Senate bills. Hence, the quick conciliatory response from Daniels. He’s trying to save 50 bills, not just one bill.

I don’t necessarily agree or disagree with him, that’s just the situation.

Mayhem on February 22, 2011 at 7:43 PM

I heard about that, nonetheless, Danielians punted by the words (yeah, just words) he used when he could have been more assertive.

Juxtapose his “now’s not the time…” with whatever 3 AM call comes in if he was POTUS? Thanks but no thanks. I’ve seen the future and it’s not gonna be gentle to a titular head that just wants civility for the sake of being nice.

I wasn’t too impressed with him — figuring him to be Bush-esque, tho I’d be inclined to pull the lever for him if he were the nominee. But after today, he can forget about my vote if he were the one. That goes for Huckleberry & Mittens and any other RINO. I’ll vote down ticket, but not for any of the aforementioned.

Give me the likes of Palin, West or Cain, the rest can take a hike!!!

AH_C on February 22, 2011 at 8:50 PM

Basically I see him as trying to defer the right-to-work fight so that he can get some other priorities accomplished. If anything, I admire his pragmatism.

MJBrutus on February 22, 2011 at 8:49 PM

Pragmatism kills, buddy. A lot of people said that about McCain between 2006 and 2008. 2012 will be a backlash against “pragmatism,” and I say that not as a Palin supporter, but as a newly-minted primary voter.

gryphon202 on February 22, 2011 at 8:51 PM

gryphon202 on February 22, 2011 at 8:16 PM

She sure didn’t jump out in front of that issue when she was Governor..But you expect Daniels to jump all over it!..:)

Dire Straits on February 22, 2011 at 8:19 PM

Was that an issue at all there, then?

Is it a huge issue here, now?

Dongemaharu on February 22, 2011 at 8:25 PM

Dongemaharu on February 22, 2011 at 8:52 PM

gryphon202 on February 22, 2011 at 8:47 PM

Your comment history reads open minded to me.

Cindy Munford on February 22, 2011 at 8:52 PM

Put words into my mouth…become a douchebag.

gryphon202 on February 22, 2011 at 8:42 PM

Whatever..:)

Dire Straits on February 22, 2011 at 8:52 PM

I won’t speak for him but I have always assumed that he thought the devote are a bit hard on the uncommitted.

Cindy Munford on February 22, 2011 at 8:50 PM

They/we have certainly gotten defensive from the constant attacks that much I concede.

The problem I have is that what Sarah Palin didn’t say is supposed be a legitimate criticism?

Does it seem that way to you?

sharrukin on February 22, 2011 at 8:53 PM

Thune is not running. Santorum has shown no interest in the job, and that leaves you with a man who has just admitted he has no political will to fight for right-to-work. Good luck.

gryphon202 on February 22, 2011 at 8:19 PM

Yeah I know. It’s going to be 2008 for me all over again most likely. Oh well, I see little possibility of anything fundamentally changing prior to near collapse so it doesn’t make too much difference.

jarodea on February 22, 2011 at 8:53 PM

Dongemaharu on February 22, 2011 at 8:52 PM

..Whatever..:)

Dire Straits on February 22, 2011 at 8:54 PM

Your comment history reads open minded to me.

Cindy Munford on February 22, 2011 at 8:52 PM

Well I blew my top tonight…and for that I apologize. I apologize to Dire, and to anyone else whom might have had their tender ears offended.

In the interest of precision in language, indulge my clarification here:

Sarah Palin is the presumptive nominee I would most like to vote in the primary for. That sentiment, though I don’t imagine it changing, just might.

gryphon202 on February 22, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Hi Cindy, Hi Dire, Hi Gryph.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 22, 2011 at 8:55 PM

MJBrutus on February 22, 2011 at 8:49 PM

It’s like the governor of Wisconsin. He has to watch how hard he pushes on the demonstrators. I don’t think he should push action on the fake doctor notes. After you beat these people on an issue, you still have to live with them.

Cindy Munford on February 22, 2011 at 8:55 PM

gryphon202 on February 22, 2011 at 8:35 PM

Seriously??? You’re gonna accuse somebody else of ‘putting words in your mouth’, hot on the heels of actually changing my quote. If I’d meant “spin”, I wouldn’t have said “clarification”.

I don’t know what the guy meant when he said “legitimate part of the process”. Was he talking about the protesters or was he talking about Democrat legislators who don’t want to take part in the democratic process? I’m waiting for clarification.

Murf76 on February 22, 2011 at 8:56 PM

The problem I have is that what Sarah Palin didn’t say is supposed be a legitimate criticism?

Does it seem that way to you?

sharrukin on February 22, 2011 at 8:53 PM

Sure seems that way to me. One could almost extrapolate every one of her policy positions simply on the basis of every law that was never signed into the books in Alaska’s history!

gryphon202 on February 22, 2011 at 8:56 PM

This is the RINO that many think will save the world?

When the going gets tough, Mitch Daniels gets going … toward the nearest exit.

Just like the truce on social issues. Imagine the Democrats declaring a “truce” on social issues: not supporting Planned Parenthood, “abortion rights,” global warming, environmental causes, affirmative action. It will never happen.

As long as the GOP is led by gutless losers like Daniels, Romney, etc., it will be a party of losers.

Stand up Mitch. Oh, you are standing up. Sorry about that.

bw222 on February 22, 2011 at 8:56 PM

gryphon202 on February 22, 2011 at 8:50 PM

Good for you..:)

Dire Straits on February 22, 2011 at 8:56 PM

gryphon202 on February 22, 2011 at 8:55 PM

I believe I actually am passive aggressive when it comes to her. While not totally sold on her, I can’t help but come to her defense when stupid things or fibs are promoted about her. She has been treated very badly but I don’t want that to be the basis of my support.

Cindy Munford on February 22, 2011 at 8:58 PM

I don’t know what the guy meant when he said “legitimate part of the process”. Was he talking about the protesters or was he talking about Democrat legislators who don’t want to take part in the democratic process? I’m waiting for clarification.

Murf76 on February 22, 2011 at 8:56 PM

No, don’t misunderstand me, please. I think what you’re going to get is spin. The only way you’re going to get any sort of real clarification is if Mitch Daniels doesn’t care that he’s torpedoed any real chance he has at the Republican presidential nomination.

gryphon202 on February 22, 2011 at 8:58 PM

The last time I saw a presidential campaign run this badly, Gary Hart was daring reporters to follow him around.

teke184 on February 22, 2011 at 5:41 PM

Good one! I remember the picture of Hart and his girlfriend
on the boat!!!!

Amjean on February 22, 2011 at 8:58 PM

I believe I actually am passive aggressive when it comes to her. While not totally sold on her, I can’t help but come to her defense when stupid things or fibs are promoted about her. She has been treated very badly but I don’t want that to be the basis of my support.

Cindy Munford on February 22, 2011 at 8:58 PM

Do you have a favored candidate yet, Cindy? I promise I don’t have any ulterior motives in asking that.

gryphon202 on February 22, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Dongemaharu on February 22, 2011 at 8:52 PM

..Whatever..:)

Dire Straits on February 22, 2011 at 8:54 PM

No answer? That’s what I thought.

Dongemaharu on February 22, 2011 at 9:00 PM

Dongemaharu on February 22, 2011 at 9:00 PM

Nice post!..:)

Dire Straits on February 22, 2011 at 9:01 PM

It’s bad timing to let the Dems scare him into a change. Oh well.

AnninCA on February 22, 2011 at 9:03 PM

It’s bad timing to let the Dems scare him into a change. Oh well.

AnninCA on February 22, 2011 at 9:03 PM

To be fair to Daniels, I don’t know if that’s what happened. But it sure looks that way to me. Either way, the man has no spine.

gryphon202 on February 22, 2011 at 9:04 PM

sharrukin on February 22, 2011 at 8:53 PM

I’d have to look into a bit more. From what I understand a huge portion of Alaska’s population are public service workers of one sort or another. I think unions are huge there and maybe given the terrain, distance and ability to monitor workers, unions are the viable answer. Most of the current governors wouldn’t be involved in this union business if it wasn’t bankrupting their states. I don’t think we are seeing profiles in courage but necessity.

Cindy Munford on February 22, 2011 at 9:05 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on February 22, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Hey, Kiddo!!

Cindy Munford on February 22, 2011 at 9:05 PM

don’t understand the argument that Herman Cain is not electable because he’s never held elected office. For me, that’s one of his greatest assets! Just how good a job have the “professional” politicians done lately?

parteagirl on February 22, 2011 at 7:34 PM

That would be fine if he was running for Congress.

Executive level politics are quite treacherous. That’s why Governors are almost always successful, where anyone else isn’t.

Executives in government are very different than executives in business. In business, if things are messed up a CEO can just start firing people and hire better people.

In government, one has to know how to SUCCESSFULLY work with legislators, as well as constituents.

How to navigate those treacherous waters and get things done. That’s a skill set that few possess.

As we have seen with Mitt Romney, good in business does NOT=good in government.

Cain’s a good man, but being President is much more than being a good man.

He talks money, but we also have a world wide melt down. We have an energy issue. We have a multitude of incredibly complicated issues. Where does Cain even stand on any of this?

The other problem with Cain is electability. He’s comes from the reddest of red states, and couldn’t beat a RINO there. Couldn’t even make a good contest of it.

We need someone with a record of excellence in leadership, a solid grip on what the hell is going on, and what needs to be done. Someone with a long, distinguished record of REAL accomplishments.

So far Sarah Palin is the only one who fits that bill.

She’s got the proven fiscal chops.

She’s a recognized authority on energy issues, and knows EXACTLY how to move us toward energy independence.

She’s been Commander-in-Chief, has been privy to high level national security briefings, and understands the what is going on around the world.

Past that, she has balls. Something the rest of the GOP lacks completely.

We can’t trust the world to someone with ZERO experience. Especially when we have the best woman for the job ready and waiting.

gary4205 on February 22, 2011 at 9:07 PM

gryphon202 on February 22, 2011 at 8:59 PM

I truly don’t. But as I have stated here before, I don’t expect to have two Reagan’s within one lifetime. I like Liz Cheney but I don’t think she is interested in politics.

Cindy Munford on February 22, 2011 at 9:07 PM

Most of the current governors wouldn’t be involved in this union business if it wasn’t bankrupting their states. I don’t think we are seeing profiles in courage but necessity.

Cindy Munford on February 22, 2011 at 9:05 PM

Alaskan unions, particularly in the private sector, also seem to be heavily involved in safety enforcement and innovation. Timber cutting and oil drilling tend to be inherently dangerous occuptions.

gryphon202 on February 22, 2011 at 9:07 PM

Maybe Daniels can take some pointers from gov Palin on how to fight unions:

It’s one thing to veto spending and reduce the size of government when your state is broke. I did it when my state was flush with revenue from a surplus – though I had to fight politicians who wanted to spend like there was no tomorrow. It’s not easy to tell people no and make them act fiscally responsible and cut spending when the money is rolling in and your state is only 50 years shy of being a territory and everyone is yelling at you to spend while the money is there to build. My point is, if I could fight this fight in Alaska at a time of surplus, then other governors can and should be able to do the same at a time when their states are facing bankruptcy and postponing this fight is no longer an option.

So, let’s not continue to reward irresponsible political behavior. Instead of handing out more federal dollars, let’s give the governors of these debt-ridden states some free advice. Shake off the pressure from public sector unions to cave on this issue. Put up with the full page newspaper attack ads, the hate-filled rhetoric, and the other union strong arm tactics that I, too, had to put up with while fighting those who don’t believe a state needs to live within its means. Stand up to the special interests that are bankrupting your states. You may not be elected Miss Congeniality for fighting to get your fiscal houses in order; but in the long run, the people who hired you to do the right thing will appreciate your prudence and fiscal conservatism.

unseen on February 22, 2011 at 9:08 PM

Murf76 on February 22, 2011 at 8:56 PM

I think we are all perplexed about that part of Gov. Daniels statement. I guess clarification will have to come from him.

Cindy Munford on February 22, 2011 at 9:09 PM

Cindy Munford on February 22, 2011 at 9:05 PM

Good post..Thanks Cindy..:)

Dire Straits on February 22, 2011 at 9:09 PM

I truly don’t. But as I have stated here before, I don’t expect to have two Reagan’s within one lifetime. I like Liz Cheney but I don’t think she is interested in politics.

Cindy Munford on February 22, 2011 at 9:07 PM

There’s time. Regardless of individual feelings for or against Sarah Palin, I’d encourage you and all undecided voters to find someone to pull the lever for in the primary election. Primary turnout will be a huge determining factor in 2012′s outcome, I think.

gryphon202 on February 22, 2011 at 9:09 PM

Most of the current governors wouldn’t be involved in this union business if it wasn’t bankrupting their states. I don’t think we are seeing profiles in courage but necessity.

Cindy Munford on February 22, 2011 at 9:05 PM

true if you want to see a profile in courage look for a govenor who took on the public unions during times of plenty….like Gov Palin did…

unseen on February 22, 2011 at 9:13 PM

He isn’t. Unfortunately Palin has been successfully “Borked.”It will really be tough for her to overcome. That being said, she is young and could run in the future. Sorry, because I really like her.

sandee on February 22, 2011 at 6:16 PM
That’s bullsh!t. She hasn’t been “borked” by any stretch of the imagination.

The fact is, the GOP nomination is already hers, if she wants it. She will destroy Obama, so the WH is hers as well.

She was just in Long Island, New York. They usually invite Presidents to this deal. She outdrew Bill Clinton, who had spoke before.

These were mostly democrats. It was an hour long, anything goes, Q&A session moderated by a democrat. She had the crowd eating out of the palm of her hand. She was very well received.

The question is NOT whether she will be our next President, she will. The only question left is how BIG the landslide victory will be.

Your “concern” however, is noted.

gary4205 on February 22, 2011 at 6:29 PM

I love reading your “comebacks” to some of these annoying
comments! You have far more patience than I do I must say!

What is really funny is that while Palin is up in Alaska
at her man’s annual sporting event, her competition is
disintegrating. This woman doesn’t have to lift a finger.
They self implode before the repub estabs have time to shoot the “anyone but Palin” candidate of the week out of the gate. Aren’t they running out of potentials by now?
We should start a contest – Vote for who you think the next
“ABP” candidate will be! Probably Huntsman.

Amjean on February 22, 2011 at 9:14 PM

My gvnr is also still hiding under his desk on senate bill S590 which will soon pass out of the Indiana senate and move to the House. S590 cracks down on illegal immigration in Indiana. What say you gvnr Daniels??

PTN 39 on February 22, 2011 at 9:17 PM

I thought Daniels’ shtick was calling a truce on social issues. Not calling a truce, period.

ddrintn on February 22, 2011 at 9:17 PM

Well, this bill didn’t really do much fiscally. So it probably wasn’t hard to give up, but giving into the tactic seems like a mistake.

Maybe not. Maybe they’ll be so happy he let them win one that they’ll give him some votes on important issues.

We’ll see. I thought it would be nice if non-union people didn’t get docked for the fees, and it would really open things up a bit.

AnninCA on February 22, 2011 at 9:18 PM

gryphon202 on February 22, 2011 at 9:09 PM

I use to be unaffiliated but change so I could vote for Sen. Rubio. I’ll be involved by then.

Cindy Munford on February 22, 2011 at 9:19 PM

Time for NRO and TWS writers to come out with pieces saying that on second thought right-to-work proposals are a bit rash at the present time.

ddrintn on February 22, 2011 at 9:20 PM

Dire Straits on February 22, 2011 at 9:09 PM

Thanks, I say Hi better than almost anyone….oh, you meant the other comment. Just kidding.

Cindy Munford on February 22, 2011 at 9:20 PM

I noticed that Cristie’s actual budget wasn’t really nearly as tough as he was implying. He may come out looking better to the Dems in his state. LOL*

Walker’s speech was good in text. Did he deliver it well?

AnninCA on February 22, 2011 at 9:21 PM

S590 cracks down on illegal immigration in Indiana. What say you gvnr Daniels??

PTN 39 on February 22, 2011 at 9:17 PM

TRUCE!!!! I WANT a TRUCE!!!!

unseen on February 22, 2011 at 9:22 PM

I noticed that Cristie’s actual budget wasn’t really nearly as tough as he was implying. He may come out looking better to the Dems in his state. LOL*

Walker’s speech was good in text. Did he deliver it well?

AnninCA on February 22, 2011 at 9:21 PM

Hoo boy…would it be tired and uncalled-for if I pointed out once again that Christie is not conservative? If Ann can figure out it out… LOL

gryphon202 on February 22, 2011 at 9:24 PM

unseen on February 22, 2011 at 9:13 PM

I read (unseen on February 22, 2011 at 9:08 PM), good stuff.

Cindy Munford on February 22, 2011 at 9:24 PM

Walker’s speech was good in text. Did he deliver it well?

AnninCA on February 22, 2011 at 9:21 PM

Whoops. Skipped over this part.

I thought he did, but I know I’m biased.

gryphon202 on February 22, 2011 at 9:25 PM

“If not us, who? If not now, when?” –John F. Kennedy

TheBigOldDog on February 22, 2011 at 9:26 PM

Cindy Munford on February 22, 2011 at 9:20 PM

Thanks once again..You are the best!..:)

Dire Straits on February 22, 2011 at 9:27 PM

Good ???..At first blush I do not agree with Daniels BUT I do not know the “inside baseball” of what he is doing..I have to remain neutral until further info..:)

Dire Straits on February 22, 2011 at 8:15 PM

Too bad you didn’t “remain neutral” while waiting for the
“inside baseball” of what Palin is doing. Hypocrite!

Amjean on February 22, 2011 at 9:28 PM

Yeah..:)..I understand ..As long as Sarah is for it..Okay..But let us beat up on the others!..:)

Dire Straits on February 22, 2011 at 8:10 PM

Pathetic argument from a pathetic person.

Alaska doesn’t have a runaway pension problem.

BTW, oil jobs are PRIVATE industry, not public.

Anyhow, much like she made the largest budget cuts in Alaska history, and not only balanced Alaska’s budget, but put billions in a rainy day fund, Sarah quietly, with little fanfare made sure the public union pensions were solvent.

You might try actually looking into her record instead of just lurking around here.

Sarah was doing what these guys are doing now, well before doing it was cool.

gary4205 on February 22, 2011 at 9:29 PM

Well so much for him. Bye Mitch, it was nice knowing you.

jeanie on February 22, 2011 at 9:31 PM

Amjean on February 22, 2011 at 9:28 PM

You are right that is exactly what I should do!..:)

Dire Straits on February 22, 2011 at 9:31 PM

I read (unseen on February 22, 2011 at 9:08 PM), good stuff.

Cindy Munford on February 22, 2011 at 9:24 PM

Palin wrote that in DEC of 2010 before any of this crap occurred. She was ahead of the curve and saw it coming a mile away.

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=469079218434

I for one would like to see a leader in office that can see the coming problems before they occur…..

unseen on February 22, 2011 at 9:31 PM

I don’t think this move will endear Daniels to any national aspirations, guys. He may, however, win some important concession for IN.

And maybe he really cares about that. They were downgraded by S&P. It’s not a major downgrade, but it was based firmly on the pension obligations and outstanding debt.

AnninCA on February 22, 2011 at 9:33 PM

gary4205 on February 22, 2011 at 9:29 PM

Thanks “Scary Gary”!..Nice post!..:)

Dire Straits on February 22, 2011 at 9:33 PM

Anyone who is surprised that Daniels isn’t a rock-ribbed, steel-spined conservative hasn’t been paying attention.

Or you’re George Will.

pugwriter on February 22, 2011 at 9:36 PM

And maybe he really cares about that. They were downgraded by S&P. It’s not a major downgrade, but it was based firmly on the pension obligations and outstanding debt.

AnninCA on February 22, 2011 at 9:33 PM

but but but Daniels is Mr fiscal “conservative” how could he allow his state to be downgraded…..that’s impossible…..ROFL…..

unseen on February 22, 2011 at 9:38 PM

gryphon202 on February 22, 2011 at 9:24 PM

I’ve got it down now.

Christie….RINO with terrific sock-it-to-em style
Romney……Democrat Lite
Huckabee….Super Nice Fundamentalist Conservative
Palin…….Conservative Annie Oakley
Scott Brown. Extremely attractive and, now, sympathy-inducing Moderate Republican
Rubio……..Extremely attractive Moderate/Conservative Minority

Donald Trump.. PR Manager for his own shows via the CPAC channel.

See? I have the lay of the land. :)

AnninCA on February 22, 2011 at 9:39 PM

but but but Daniels is Mr fiscal “conservative” how could he allow his state to be downgraded…..that’s impossible…..ROFL…..

unseen on February 22, 2011 at 9:38 PM

Pensions don’t go away. It went down from A to A-, so that won’t be awful in terms of restructuring debt if that’s what he’s trying to do.

AnninCA on February 22, 2011 at 9:40 PM

See? I have the lay of the land. :)

AnninCA on February 22, 2011 at 9:39 PM

I feel better now!..:)

Dire Straits on February 22, 2011 at 9:40 PM

I’ve heard that Texas is one.
Did I mention that I just spoke to the husband…and he said…that we’re moving?
*Leaps giddily*

annoyinglittletwerp on February 22, 2011 at 8:22 PM

Awesome! Wish we were closer, but Lubbock is a day’s ride from here! As you’ll find out, you can drive all day and never leave Texas!

No unions in Texas though. Or should I say none to speak of. we are a right to work state.

You’ll enjoy it here.

gary4205 on February 22, 2011 at 9:41 PM

I forgot Gingrich. Don’t we all? :)

AnninCA on February 22, 2011 at 9:41 PM

Pensions don’t go away. It went down from A to A-, so that won’t be awful in terms of restructuring debt if that’s what he’s trying to do.

AnninCA on February 22, 2011 at 9:40 PM

But but daniels had 8 years to restructure those debts…. Did he fail to address them? I thought he was focused like a laser on the new red menace……Is this just a little red IN menace? That he thought to swept under the rug or declare a truce on and hope it didn’t catch up to him before 2012 elections……

unseen on February 22, 2011 at 9:42 PM

gary4205 on February 22, 2011 at 9:41 PM

More like 3 days. I have never in my life been somewhere that my cell phone had no service. Miles and miles and miles.

And not a cowboy in sight. Heck, not a cow in sight.

AnninCA on February 22, 2011 at 9:43 PM

One less person to do my due diligence on in the Primary. Pathetic! Taking your ball and going home is the new strategy I guess. If Walker folds the movement is over.

JDH on February 22, 2011 at 9:43 PM

I wonde rif Daniels will write to S&P and request a Truce on this whole downgrade thing…..

unseen on February 22, 2011 at 9:45 PM

gary4205 on February 22, 2011 at 9:29 PM

She did some good stuff, but she also only really was there working as Gov for what, a year and a half?

My concern is that she’s not really handled these types of rollercoaster situations while holding office. Neither had Obama. And it shows.

I would guess voters will not be anxious to skip over experience this time around.

AnninCA on February 22, 2011 at 9:45 PM

If Walker folds the movement is over.

JDH on February 22, 2011 at 9:43 PM

He isn’t folding. He may toss a bone or something when the Dems come back. But he’s not folding on the shift to letting the local districts do the bargaining.

He had too many run-ins and too much frustration in his former jobs. You can tell, this is flat-out personal with him.

He’s going to win.

AnninCA on February 22, 2011 at 9:47 PM

She did some good stuff, but she also only really was there working as Gov for what, a year and a half?

My concern is that she’s not really handled these types of rollercoaster situations while holding office. Neither had Obama. And it shows.

I would guess voters will not be anxious to skip over experience this time around.

AnninCA on February 22, 2011 at 9:45 PM

she served 3 out of the 4 legistature sessions. Or 3/4ths of the job.

unseen on February 22, 2011 at 9:48 PM

unseen on February 22, 2011 at 9:42 PM

8 year? I hadn’t realized that. You’re right. It’s his problem, then.

AnninCA on February 22, 2011 at 9:49 PM

gary4205 on February 22, 2011 at 9:41 PM
Thanks!
Because of the distance, my husband may get us an apartment that I will only see online before we actually move.
We don’t have the $$$$ to have me going back and forth between Chicago and Texas.
As long as it has a website(for me to check things out) and is in one of the good neighborhoods-I’ll have to trust his judgment.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 22, 2011 at 9:50 PM

So thune is out

Mitt is imploding

Huck is not running

Daniels just destoryed himself before the flag even came down.

TPAw still in the game….

Newt will decide by end of March….

Barbour isn’t getting any traction will decide soon….

rudy only going to run if Palin runs….

Pence is out….

Huntsman quit his second job in 2 years he is done before he starts…

the question is will there be anyone besides TPAW when Palin finally declares?

Maybe Palin’s entire Primary campaign strategy is to win by default being the only one left standing…..

unseen on February 22, 2011 at 9:53 PM

8 year? I hadn’t realized that. You’re right. It’s his problem, then.

AnninCA on February 22, 2011 at 9:49 PM

Well this is his seventh year in office. his term will end in jan of 2013 I believe…

unseen on February 22, 2011 at 9:54 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on February 22, 2011 at 9:50 PM

Sorry!..I was not ignoring you!..I was busy!..:)

I am so glad for you and your hubby!..You will love it in Texas!

PS..Just take Bishop’s advice and watch out for the spiders!..:):)

Dire Straits on February 22, 2011 at 9:54 PM

she served 3 out of the 4 legistature sessions. Or 3/4ths of the job.

unseen on February 22, 2011 at 9:48 PM

Palin could have served as governor of all fifty states and it wouldn’t matter. The left will say she should have served as governor of the fifty seven Islamic states … you know, the states Obama keeps referencing.

darwin on February 22, 2011 at 9:54 PM

unseen on February 22, 2011 at 9:53 PM

Success is 99% showing up, eh?

AnninCA on February 22, 2011 at 9:55 PM

And the fire ants.

AnninCA on February 22, 2011 at 9:55 PM

I love reading your “comebacks” to some of these annoying
comments! You have far more patience than I do I must say!

What is really funny is that while Palin is up in Alaska
at her man’s annual sporting event, her competition is
disintegrating. This woman doesn’t have to lift a finger.
They self implode before the repub estabs have time to shoot the “anyone but Palin” candidate of the week out of the gate. Aren’t they running out of potentials by now?
We should start a contest – Vote for who you think the next
“ABP” candidate will be! Probably Huntsman.

Amjean on February 22, 2011 at 9:14 PM

Thanks! I don’t have all that much patience though!

Good Lord. I know Palin isn’t perfect, but compared to the rest she damned sure is as close as it gets.

To me it’s like some sort of metal defect if someone can’t see that!

You’re right though. her competition is imploding while she’s watching Todd race.

She took this photo today and tweeted it:

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg614/scaled.php?tn=0&server=614&filename=ekois.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

She knows what’s important.

Todd is much man to race this deal. 2000 miles in sub zero weather at high speed. One tough hombre.

gary4205 on February 22, 2011 at 9:57 PM

8 year? I hadn’t realized that. You’re right. It’s his problem, then.

AnninCA on February 22, 2011 at 9:49 PM

it is starting to look that way :)

unseen on February 22, 2011 at 9:58 PM

oops menat to respond to this one:

Success is 99% showing up, eh?
AnninCA on February 22, 2011 at 9:55 PM

it is starting to look that way…….

sry

unseen on February 22, 2011 at 9:59 PM

And the fire ants.

AnninCA on February 22, 2011 at 9:55 PM

Fire Ants are actually a type of wingless wasp.
I have major problems with any wasps that aren’t White Anglo Saxon Protestants or Italian motorcycles.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 22, 2011 at 9:59 PM

gary4205 on February 22, 2011 at 9:57 PM

the mental defect is one of the main reason s why I think most of the hate towards Palin has to do with her being female.

unseen on February 22, 2011 at 10:00 PM

have major problems with any wasps that aren’t White Anglo Saxon Protestants or Italian motorcycles.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 22, 2011 at 9:59 PM

then you might have a big problem with the baptists….

ducks for cover

unseen on February 22, 2011 at 10:01 PM

After you beat these people on an issue, you still have to live with them.

Cindy Munford on February 22, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Cindy,

How many in Libtardia would you estimate have the same opinion, as opposed to, kick them while they are down so they will remember what’s coming if they do it again!

belad on February 22, 2011 at 10:02 PM

Fire Ants are actually a type of wingless wasp.

I didn’t know that! My brother says I have to call them “fur ant” if I want to be accepted. :)

All I know is that stinkers sting and leave blisters.

AnninCA on February 22, 2011 at 10:04 PM

have major problems with any wasps that aren’t White Anglo Saxon Protestants or Italian motorcycles.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 22, 2011 at 9:59 PM

then you might have a big problem with the baptists….

ducks for cover

unseen on February 22, 2011 at 10:01 PM

LoL

I’m A Jewish-Catholic myself.
From what I’ve read, the Archdiocese of Lubbock is like Chicago with all the PC/’social-justice’ garbage.
Blech.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 22, 2011 at 10:05 PM

AnninCA on February 22, 2011 at 10:04 PM

I’m totally unafraid of rodents. snakes, and lizards- but if it has 6-8 legs…

annoyinglittletwerp on February 22, 2011 at 10:07 PM

Mitch Daniels … Going for the union vote.

FORK, MEET MITCH.

stenwin77 on February 22, 2011 at 10:08 PM

More like 3 days. I have never in my life been somewhere that my cell phone had no service. Miles and miles and miles.

And not a cowboy in sight. Heck, not a cow in sight.

AnninCA on February 22, 2011 at 9:43 PM

Texas is BIG. Only Sarah gets away with calling it “Alaska’s little sister”! Alaska is several times larger.

Verizon has cell service almost everywhere, but West Texas is pretty vast, and open, so …

For some reason I had you living in Austin. More hippies there than cowboys there. But the ones you see are real. (both hippies and cowboys!)

gary4205 on February 22, 2011 at 10:08 PM

belad on February 22, 2011 at 10:02 PM

I know and I try to look at it that way but I just can’t think like that. I don’t want to be like them and I don’t want people I admire to be like them. And Republicans might as well act like them or worse since that’s what the media says anyway.

Cindy Munford on February 22, 2011 at 10:09 PM

It’s almost time for Sarah to come forward with her energy plan for America !

stenwin77 on February 22, 2011 at 10:09 PM

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