Gallup: 61% oppose laws limiting collective bargaining rights for public unions

posted at 5:02 pm on February 22, 2011 by Allahpundit

This morning’s poll came from the AFL-CIO, this afternoon’s comes from someone more reputable. I can’t find any crosstabs, so until they’re made public, there are two ways we can play this. One: Take it as a dire warning that the GOP may face a nasty backlash at the polls in the next cycle as Republican governors try to end PEUs’ both-sides-of-the-bargaining-table racket. Maybe that’s a price worth paying, but we should be prepared to pay it. Two: Insist that the public is on our side — or rather, that it will be once we explain the issues to them properly. This isn’t a policy problem, in others. It’s … a messaging problem.

Which of those two would a Democrat choose?

The public strongly opposes laws taking away the collective bargaining power of public employee unions as a way to ease state financial troubles, according to a new USA TODAY/Gallup Poll.

The poll found that 61% would oppose a law in their state similar to one being considered in Wisconsin, compared with 33% who would favor such a law…

The poll found people divided on whether public employee unions are a good thing.

And to think, I took Richard Cohen’s(!) anti-union column this morning as a sign that bipartisan consensus was crystallizing in Walker’s favor. What’s surprising about the result is that the public support for unions has dropped steeply over the past five years, falling from 60 percent down to 40 in 2009 before rebounding to 45 percent today. Even some unionized workers employed by private entitles seem annoyed at the advantages enjoyed by PEUs in an age of high unemployment and red ink at every level of government. And still, says Gallup — 61 percent.

In fact, the part on collective bargaining isn’t even the most depressing data in the poll. This is:

Even now, even now, even now, the public’s not serious about sustainability. I don’t know what to say. Although, in an odd way, maybe that graph will give courage to the GOP to press ahead. Voters are so ambivalent about what to do to balance the budget that you’ll end up being destroyed politically no matter which course you pursue. Republicans will be hammered over collective bargaining, and then Democrats — if they get their way — will be hammered for letting the Bush tax cuts lapse. Do the right thing and let the chips fall where they may.

For your viewing pleasure, here’s Valerie Jarrett shilling for unions this afternoon on MSNBC. Even Contessa Brewer sounds like she’s ready to derail the gravy train. Click the image to watch.


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Who even knows what collective bargaining means? Next.

WarEagle01 on February 22, 2011 at 5:37 PM

Hey, if the teachers were actually do the job that we pay them to do then the people would better understand the issues.

Of course, if the teachers were actually doing their job…

Chip on February 22, 2011 at 5:56 PM

Maybe it’s meta-humor about media coverage on Walker.

teke184 on February 22, 2011 at 4:42 PM

I think there really is a messaging problem, actually, but not how Pelosi an the Democrats meant, and both parties are guilty of it. The messaging problem is that D/R’s have been frolicking around in Chocolate and Lollipop Land while reality is crashing down around us all. Nobody pays much attention any more and even if they do, to many people who would otherwise understand instead find themselves the victims of the Chocolate and Lollipop Land propaganda machine.

FloatingRock on February 22, 2011 at 5:59 PM

What utter nonsense from Gallup. Until 6 months ago, I was a registered Democrat for 27 years and even I know this poll is wishful thinking from Dem friendly pollsters.

The toilet bugs in the media can not spin this in the union and dems favor so they post slanted polls hoping to convince a few mental idiots that its true cuz they wish real hard for it!

Gallup, you and the others are only fooling the lefty idiots they already have. The rest of America does not live in the country of your dreams-we live in reality and have known for some time that when you can’t spin it, you outright lie about it.

Niteowl45 on February 22, 2011 at 6:00 PM

(Sorry, the quote must have been left over from my previous comment and should have been included in my previous comment.)

FloatingRock on February 22, 2011 at 6:00 PM

Hey AP, Ed, and bloggers all, dig deeper. There’s something wrong with this poll. I usually trust Gallup, but there’s something wrong with this poll.

Calling Mr. Rasmussen. Report to office ASAP.

petefrt on February 22, 2011 at 6:01 PM

Should not have been included.

FloatingRock on February 22, 2011 at 6:01 PM

The public strongly opposes laws taking away the collective bargaining power of public employee unions as a way to ease state financial troubles, according to a new USA TODAY/Gallup Poll

I’d be curious to see the answers if this same public was ever asked to explain why they believe public employee unions should have the right to bargain collectively.

I’d be willing to bet that few, if any, of them could articulate a coherent reason for their strong support of the collective bargaining rights of public employee unions.

But hey, I guess we can’t really blame people for their lack of critical thinking skills. After all, most of them were probably “educated” by public school teachers.

AZCoyote on February 22, 2011 at 6:04 PM

“A popular Government without popular information or the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own Governors, must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives.”
— James Madison

This is a messaging failure by the GOP. Just face it, the left is far better at propaganda and getting its message out. The problem is also that there isn’t sufficient will on the right to enact serious fiscal reform because their hands are also in the coffers.

Think about it; it’s taken the state of Wisconsin to become seriously bankrupt for the issue to even be brought to the table. Liberals have been drumming on about how this or that entitlement is a right for decades. We finally get a fiscally sound individual into the state house and you expect that people are just going to roll over? Scott Walker won 52-46; by 124,000 votes. Don’t be surprised if it takes hyperinflation to convince many Americans that there’s even a problem. Germany, home of the Weimar Republic, still perpetrates entitlements on their productive citizens. People will never learn.

Levinite on February 22, 2011 at 6:05 PM

Since all public sector funding is based on taxes/fees, -which are limited to how much people are willing to be bled for essenital services, then the public servants need to grasp this fundamental reality.

There is a finite fund to pay for government.

And these servants also must accept that: there can be no striking, stoppages, sick-outs, etc., with public service jobs, because public safety and security requires this sacrifice for the greater good.

And, if you don’t like this limitation or the pay, go into the private sector.

Nothing stopping anybody.

profitsbeard on February 22, 2011 at 6:07 PM

I oppose public sector labor unions.
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Check that:
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I oppose all extortion rackets labor unions.
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esblowfeld on February 22, 2011 at 6:12 PM

Click the image to watch.

No thanks. I’d rather jam ice picks in my eyes.

OxyCon on February 22, 2011 at 6:12 PM

Yeah, and I guess as soon as this 61% took the poll they went back to watching Living with the Kardashians.

anniekc on February 22, 2011 at 6:13 PM

Gallap smallap! These polls are biased left wing crap! Just do the right thing!

MCGIRV on February 22, 2011 at 6:15 PM

I call BS on this poll!

tomshup on February 22, 2011 at 6:21 PM

Maybe Gallup should expand on the question a little bit and they would probably get much different results:

Q. Would you favor or oppose a law in your state taking away some collective bargaining rights of most public unions, including the state teachers union who are overpaid, in order to prevent the state from going bankrupt?

tommer74 on February 22, 2011 at 6:21 PM

 

Do favor or oppose your government taking bribes from unions on how to spend your tax dollars?
 

ignatzk on February 22, 2011 at 6:23 PM

I’m more than willing to take this bet, AFL-CIO mob-monkeys. Go for it. You keep your punk-ass thugs in the Capitol building and we’ll run on a “leash these snarling dogs” platform, and to the victor goes the spoils.

Bring it on.

Jaibones on February 22, 2011 at 6:27 PM

Yeah, and I guess as soon as this 61% took the poll they went back to watching Living with the Kardashians.

anniekc on February 22, 2011 at 6:13 PM

They’re just emulating their president, who has said that that Kardashian “reality” garbage is one of his favorite shows.

Yet another indication of Barry’s vastly superior intellect, no doubt.

AZCoyote on February 22, 2011 at 6:30 PM

Can’t wait for his fireside chat at 6, I bet every household will be tuned in. He needs to really make a case and make it factual and understandable. I know he has but he is up against a lot of push back.

wi farmgirl on February 22, 2011 at 6:31 PM

Back on the weekend’s meme of “Miss me Yet?” — consider the kinds of people Bush and O’Bozo surround themselves with.

Bush — Condi Rice, Dana Perino (ooh), Tony Snow, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Karen Hughes.

O’Bozo — Susan Rice, Valerie Jarrett, Eric Holder, Baghdad Bob Gibbs.

Jaibones on February 22, 2011 at 6:31 PM

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note that this is a USAtoday poll, so that reduces credibility…also the lack of click thru to the details makes is suspect…but anything with All Adults can be a problem

but here’s the word from a Dem Pol…who is nervous about being AWOL, and wants to go home:

http://gazettextra.com/news/2011/feb/22/cullen-sees-way-end-
senators-hideout/

He’s hoping for a committee to compromise

“I think the 15th District and the state itself is split down the middle on this,” he said.

If a Dem in IL says it is 50/50…you know Gallup is wrong

r keller on February 22, 2011 at 6:33 PM

From what I can see the question is loaded. Results now invalid.

teacherman on February 22, 2011 at 6:34 PM

For better or worse the issue is joined. Time to go directly into their teeth. No delay, no negotiation, no quarter. And I mean this in the most civil way possible of course.

Mason on February 22, 2011 at 6:34 PM

hopefully this is better

r keller on February 22, 2011 at 6:35 PM

Gallup, like all the other dem and union butt sucking media know if they tell a lie often enough, maybe people will believe it. Everyone has seen with their own 2 eyes that Media toilet bugs, Dems and unions will do ANYTHING to keep the slush fund going.

Shocking isn’t it that a dem friendly pollster comes up with results that the Unions and Dems have been falsely pushing to voters, praying to God ANY suckers will believe it. Why yes, 61% of voters are against NOT having their taxes raised so union leeches can continue to live high on the hog while they struggle to put food on the table. They are all in favor of having the unions confiscate even more of their paycheck that barely pays the bills! It’s true! Because Democrat friendly lapdogs Gallup told us so!

Niteowl45 on February 22, 2011 at 6:36 PM

Collective bargaining is codespeak for “pay us more or we strike.”

mike_NC9 on February 22, 2011 at 6:37 PM

New Poll:

Should thousands of public workers be laid off so that their still-working colleagues to contribute next to nothing to their retirement and health benefits?

Axeman on February 22, 2011 at 6:44 PM

My, how convenient…where’s the Rasmussen poll on this?

I wonder what the poll results from the folks in WI would say?

CPT. Charles on February 22, 2011 at 6:50 PM

Calling Mr. Rasmussen. Report to office ASAP.

petefrt on February 22, 2011 at 6:01 PM

Bing

Jaibones on February 22, 2011 at 7:02 PM

Fireside chat right now-

Walker is subtley framing it as private against public.

A brilliant move.

WisCon on February 22, 2011 at 7:06 PM

He is doing a great job.

WisCon on February 22, 2011 at 7:06 PM

This isn’t a policy problem, in others. It’s … a messaging problem.

In others? Do you mean in other words? If not, what do you mean?

SgtSVJones on February 22, 2011 at 7:09 PM

“New Gallup poll finds Sun rises in East”. Response on Hot Air: left-wing stooges! Gallup is in the bag for the Democrats! I don’t believe a word of it!

pm123 on February 22, 2011 at 7:10 PM

He threatened layoffs, but it sounds like he is just going to wait until they come back.

WisCon on February 22, 2011 at 7:11 PM

Republicans will be hammered over collective bargaining

No they won’t. One Gallup poll of adults, especially with the questions worded the way they are, doesn’t mean squat. The questions suck: “are you in favor of cutting someone’s pay”, or “in favor of taking away collective bargaining” etc. there’s no indication of the consequence of doing nothing or the reason for taking something away from anyone. People will tend to answer “no” in that circumstance. You’d have to be a monster to want to just cut someone’s pay for the fun of it, right?

Heck, I’m not in favor of just up and cutting anyone’s pay. But if the alternative is State bankruptcy, or the firing of hundreds of other people, then I’d go for the cuts, like alot of other people. “Data” is meaningless without analysis of the questions and the sample.

forest on February 22, 2011 at 7:17 PM

Fireside chat right now-

Walker is subtley framing it as private against public.

A brilliant move.

WisCon on February 22, 2011 at 7:06 PM

I thought so too. I liked the stories of people other than union workers. Makes it seem like it is about everyone in the state not just them.

wi farmgirl on February 22, 2011 at 7:18 PM

What utter nonsense from Gallup. Until 6 months ago, I was a registered Democrat for 27 years and even I know this poll is wishful thinking from Dem friendly pollsters.

The toilet bugs in the media can not spin this in the union and dems favor so they post slanted polls hoping to convince a few mental idiots that its true cuz they wish real hard for it!

Gallup, you and the others are only fooling the lefty idiots they already have. The rest of America does not live in the country of your dreams-we live in reality and have known for some time that when you can’t spin it, you outright lie about it.

Niteowl45 on February 22, 2011 at 6:00 PM

Holy cow! So what changed it for you 6 months ago?

wi farmgirl on February 22, 2011 at 7:20 PM

He is doing a great job.

WisCon on February 22, 2011 at 7:06 PM

Not unless he draws a line in the sand and there are actual, painful consequences for those Dem legislators that are impeding the work of the government and endangering the state’s finances, and for those protesting teachers et al.

Fire them, arrest them, send code enforcement personnel to their homes to find every small thing wrong they can, fine them, have policemen set up speed traps and bust them all for 0.5mph over the limit, whatever.

Enough of this bullcrap. Either elections have consequences or they don’t, and if they don’t, let’s stop beating around the bush and break out the weapons.

Midas on February 22, 2011 at 7:21 PM

I wonder what the poll results from the folks in WI would say?

CPT. Charles on February 22, 2011 at 6:50 PM

Well I wish they would poll us… actually they did, we elected him.

wi farmgirl on February 22, 2011 at 7:25 PM

He threatened layoffs, but it sounds like he is just going to wait until they come back.

WisCon on February 22, 2011 at 7:11 PM

Maybe he is hoping that they will come back by the weekend. He doesn’t have any more time than that does he?

wi farmgirl on February 22, 2011 at 7:27 PM

Enough of this bullcrap. Either elections have consequences or they don’t, and if they don’t, let’s stop beating around the bush and break out the weapons.

Midas on February 22, 2011 at 7:21 PM

If they’re trying to do the same thing in Wisconsin and other Republican states that they did in Egypt, and if they continue pushing, that may be the direction they are headed in.

Do the Democrats really think they can pull off an Egypt in Wisconsin?

FloatingRock on February 22, 2011 at 7:28 PM

Do the Democrats really think they can pull off an Egypt in Wisconsin?

FloatingRock on February 22, 2011 at 7:28 PM

I thought of that. It is Madtown and it is labor unions. Scary thought.

wi farmgirl on February 22, 2011 at 7:29 PM

1) As if Gallup has any cred.
2) As if the majority of Gallup respondents even understand collective bargaining.

JimP on February 22, 2011 at 7:35 PM

Wonder how many of those polled even understood the question about collective bargaining?

Public unions should be banned from endorsing or (more importantly) funding any political candidate of any political party.

Our national union doing so always made me feel like it was a conflict of interest. The union becomes a political entity in of itself, and forces its members to provide de facto support even for those they vote against.

Dr. ZhivBlago on February 22, 2011 at 7:39 PM

In fact, the part on collective bargaining isn’t even the most depressing data in the poll. This is:

Even now, even now, even now, the public’s not serious about sustainability. I don’t know what to say.

Been making that point for a long time. It is very rare that most people will agree to deal with a problem before it hits catastrophe levels. Even then there’s no guarantee they will support the best solution (as seen in the 30′s).

Get used to it folks, government spending will only be brought under control when the reality of economic collapse forces it to be.

jarodea on February 22, 2011 at 7:47 PM

There’s something askew here.

98ZJUSMC on February 22, 2011 at 8:33 PM

1 in 3 Wisconsin 8th graders can read.
1 in 3 Wisconsin 8th grader’s parents are responsible adults that actually have put some/any effort into ensuring their children either have good teachers and good enough morals to learn, or have actually taken the time to teach their kids at home.
While it is the teacher’s responsibility to teach the children entrusted to its care, it is the parent’s responsibility to ensure they provide the teachers with a disciplined enough child that they are capable of teaching. On top of disciplining their children such that they are well behaved enough to be taught, it is also the parents responsibility to ensure the teacher they entrust their child with is up to the task of teaching them.

We can all complain about how poor they are and cannot do it on their own, I beg to differ, with the proper priorities, even the poor traditional family can find the time to discipline their children and if need be teach them at home, and if sending them to school is helpful in allowing them to have both parents working, send them to school to be role models for other children.

astonerii on February 22, 2011 at 8:35 PM

1 in 3 Wisconsin 8th graders can read.
1 in 3 Wisconsin 8th grader’s parents are responsible adults that actually have put some/any effort into ensuring their children either have good teachers and good enough morals to learn, or have actually taken the time to teach their kids at home.
While it is the teacher’s responsibility to teach the children entrusted to its care, it is the parent’s responsibility to ensure they provide the teachers with a disciplined enough child that they are capable of teaching. On top of disciplining their children such that they are well behaved enough to be taught, it is also the parents responsibility to ensure the teacher they entrust their child with is up to the task of teaching them.

We can all complain about how poor they are and cannot do it on their own, I beg to differ, with the proper priorities, even the poor traditional family can find the time to discipline their children and if need be teach them at home, and if sending them to school is helpful in allowing them to have both parents working, send them to school to be role models for other children.

Forgot to add my actual point.
The point of all of this is that 66% of the parents in Wisconsin are too immoral to make certain their kids are educated, you cannot possibly expect them to be responsible enough to take the blame for their irresponsibility and tell the pollster that they have continually advocated for simply throwing money at the problem for the last 30 years but have now found out they were wrong. They are too immoral to admit they are wrong and certainly not responsible.

astonerii on February 22, 2011 at 8:38 PM

Has anyone checked the internals of this polling? For example, what percentage of respondents came from the states like Wisconsin, Ohio, etc where legislation is pending? It doesn’t really matter whether, voters in blue states like New York, California, Oregon, Washington and Illinois voters are for or against the proposed legislation. The politics of each of the states in which such legislation is pending is all that matters. In this case, all politics really is local. I think that the governors and state legislatures understand that.

How are the collective bargaining and checkoff proposals faring in the states where they are being proposed?

vnjagvet on February 22, 2011 at 9:01 PM

I just don’t buy it. If this is even close why is Obama backing off?

conservativecaveman on February 22, 2011 at 9:07 PM

I don’t think this is a “messaging problem” as much as a questioning problem. Liberals have been hanging their hats since November on questions like “Do you support this thing that is bad?” or “Do you support taking away this thing that sounds vaguely good?” Well, of course people don’t, if you pretend to them that they have a choice.

The question should be “Do you support ratcheting down public sector benefits, or paying for them with higher taxes?” Because, you know, there isn’t a third option, at least not for much longer.

When the questions that include words like “taxes” and “debt”, you get public majorities in favor doing things that are not only “cruel” and “conservative” but downright illegal, like defaulting on the national debt and refusing to pay existing benefits. So yeah, it comes down to how the question is presented.

HitNRun on February 22, 2011 at 9:10 PM

We’re screwed. We have cowardly Dems fleeing states now instead of participating in the process, and now apparently it’s clear the public is on their side. Sure, continue to suck the taxpayers dry, unions, even though we’re not too fond of you.

changer1701 on February 22, 2011 at 9:11 PM

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics:

In 2010, the union membership rate–the percent of wage and salary workers who were members of a union–was 11.9 percent

I really doubt Gallup’s high number. Just sayin’.

Fallon on February 22, 2011 at 9:15 PM

And once again, polls in and of themselves don’t mean anything, unless they’re conducted on the first Tuesday of November in an even year.

All through the Bush years up until 2007ish, majorities opposed gay marriage – often by 3:1 margins. Did Democrats pay a political price for this in 2006? Of course not, because the issue was not a voting issue for the electorate, even though they opposed the Dem position when asked.

Do you think voters are going to march to their polling stations in November 2012 determined to preserve the collective bargaining rights of public sector unions?

HitNRun on February 22, 2011 at 9:20 PM

this simply means that 61% of the people are criminals. Scary.

proconstitution on February 22, 2011 at 9:26 PM

Even if I didn’t know how a pollster can make a poll come out the way that they or the client want it to, while appearing on the surface appearing to be an honest poll…..

I’d still fail to be impressed with this.

61% of Americans know what Snookie did this week, but not what the Bill of Rights is. If this were a democracy, rather than a Republic, and had to rely on the knowledge and wisdom of the electorate, America would have turned into a third-world hellhole by 1968, rather than just now falling into that state.

LegendHasIt on February 22, 2011 at 9:26 PM

Va-Jay-Jay: the one who is REALLY running the country…Obama’s just her mouthpiece.

Yellowdog12 on February 22, 2011 at 9:38 PM

Well gosh, how could the be ANY right to work states?

There is a clear flaw in this poll. Is it time to inquire about possible Gallup labor union connections?

Freddy on February 22, 2011 at 10:05 PM

I cannot believe this poll is legitimate. Even among Democrats I know most will say govt employees make too much and get too many benefits.

angryed on February 22, 2011 at 10:08 PM

Even now, even now, even now, the public’s not serious about sustainability. I don’t know what to say.

I know what I would say – about half of that 60+% know only the lies that our lying media tells them. How else would blacks consistently vote for the party that has destroyed the black family and work ethic?

disa on February 22, 2011 at 11:34 PM

How else would blacks consistently vote for the party that has destroyed the black family and work ethic?

disa on February 22, 2011 at 11:34 PM

Because it’s easier than honest work?

Dark-Star on February 22, 2011 at 11:44 PM

You know, I’m really tired of hearing about collective bargaining “rights”.

They are not “rights”.

The fact that the government had to grant those “rights” is the evidence to prove they are not rights.

They’re privileges that have been abused through corruption and bribery over the years.

ButterflyDragon on February 22, 2011 at 11:53 PM

You know, I’m really tired of hearing about collective bargaining “rights”.

They are not “rights”.

The fact that the government had to grant those “rights” is the evidence to prove they are not rights.

They’re privileges that have been abused through corruption and bribery over the years.

ButterflyDragon on February 22, 2011 at 11:53 PM

And those things that *are* ‘rights’ will be abridged by libs at the drop of a hat if it suits them.

Midas on February 23, 2011 at 1:23 AM

Never pay much heed to polls which don’t show enough of the internals to at least compare the sample to the party breakdown, etc.

But even if it were accurate, SO WHAT? We should not form policy on the basis of public popularity anyway – if we wanted to do that we could just have direct democracy. We should govern with good sense and do what we believe to be the best of limited and unhappy choices.

Adjoran on February 23, 2011 at 4:33 AM

I don’t believe the results of this poll one bit. I will be interested to see how it was conducted.

IF by some chance 61% do in fact support collective bargaining (again, I don’t believe it) then it is only because 66% don’t understand what collective bargaining rights are and how they affect us all…

Virginia Shanahan on February 23, 2011 at 6:10 AM

Why do we call collective bargaining a “right” when the individual employee is forced to join in order to be employed and forced to have dues extracted that supports political candidates and a party they may not politically support?

How can they call it a “right” when the individual worker that is forced into this arrangement may lose their job (get laid off) as a sacrifice for the continutation of this collective scam in the first place?

This is a slave system.

Saltysam on February 23, 2011 at 7:36 AM

It’s over for Republicans if the Republican’s cave.

Period.

MNHawk on February 23, 2011 at 7:46 AM

I don’t buy this poll. I’m sure the questions were posed just so. We need to stick to our guns. Don’t back down and no apologies. DD

Darvin Dowdy on February 23, 2011 at 7:48 AM

allah considers the usa today/gallup as a reputable source. Amazing how at even at so called conservative site we are bombarded with leftist propaganda in an attempt to influence our thinking and/or deflate our hope. allah and other liberals want us to resign ourselves to our fate and quietly go away.

peacenprosperity on February 23, 2011 at 7:57 AM

Check out the comments on the USAToday page. Even the comments on the poll itself show that more people oppose public sector bargaining than don’t. Rasmussen shows the public behind Gov. Walker 48/38. There’s no way %71 of the people actually want the budget to be fixed by raising taxes, unless you’re highly overpolling those who don’t actually pay any taxes.

AJsDaddie on February 23, 2011 at 8:29 AM

So predictible.

Gallup Poll says something you like, “hooray! We are right. Whoop there it is!”

Gallup Poll says something you don’t like. “This poll is crap! This poll is biased lame stream media drivel. We don’t trust polls. Look at the source. Look the way the question was asked. whine whine whine.”

Magnus on February 23, 2011 at 8:32 AM

Increase taxes???? Why can’t people see where this ends?

ProfessorMiao on February 23, 2011 at 9:20 AM

The problem with union support polling is that union support will be different in different regions. places like the east coast(new england) and midwest might very well have a more favorable view of unions. Do that poll in dallas, houston, atlanta or pheonix and you probably get a very different result.

snoopicus on February 23, 2011 at 9:42 AM

One: Take it as a dire warning that the GOP may face a nasty backlash at the polls in the next cycle as Republican governors try to end PEUs’ both-sides-of-the-bargaining-table racket.

I doubt there will be a backlash, part of that 61% is no doubt the effect union propaganda has had at scaring people ie Paul Krugmanesque articles. That will dissipate when the public realizes its not true, america will not turn into a Dickensian nightmare where satanic death mills of capatilism grind human souls into gold. Public “servants” will eat small pay decreases, the public will enjoy the same levels of service at a reduced cost. No one will actually notice a difference, hence no one will care.

snoopicus on February 23, 2011 at 9:54 AM

To my knowledge the poll was of 1000 adults. Not likely voters. That right there should be a clue that it may not be as accurate as some believe.

Hard Right on February 23, 2011 at 10:44 AM

Even now, even now, even now, the public’s not serious about sustainability. I don’t know what to say.

I’d ormally say we deserve the govt we get but some of us are trying to fight the good fight and SAVE this country from self destructive policies but alas convincing the sheeple to join is an uphill battle to put it mildly.

Yakko77 on February 23, 2011 at 11:32 AM

Reframe the question as:

Do you favor Wisconsin becoming a right to work state.

PC14 on February 23, 2011 at 3:06 PM

Meanwhile, the part they left out….75% of poll respondents had never heard of collective bargaining before participating in this poll.

xblade on February 23, 2011 at 3:10 PM

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