Crumble: GOP effort to cut $100 billion fails — thanks to massive Republican defections

posted at 5:38 pm on February 18, 2011 by Allahpundit

I was all set to do a celebratory moral-victory post about the votes to defund Planned Parenthood and ObamaCare, but how can we party now? There’s pee in the punchbowl.

Remember, even the full, allegedly “draconian” $100 billion figure is a pittance compared to this year’s projected $1.5 trillion deficit.

I’m speechless.

The House rejected a measure cutting an additional $22 billion from the Republican spending bill, as conservatives ran into a wall of opposition from the GOP establishment over the depth of reductions to federal funding.

The amendment backed by the conservative Republican Study Committee failed, 147-281, but not before putting the GOP spending divide under a spotlight on the House floor. Authored by RSC chairman Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), the proposal would have dramatically reshaped an appropriations bill that already slashes federal spending by $61 billion over the next seven months…

Like no previous proposal, the heated debate over the amendment drew a bright line through the GOP conference, pitting conservatives pushing the deepest spending cuts against senior Republicans who denounced them as “misguided,” “indiscriminate” and, in the case of Rep. Daniel Lungren (R-Calif.), “lazy.”…

While Republicans were critical of the measure, Democrats adopted an apocalyptic tone. Rep. Jim Moran (D-Va.) said that while the entire spending bill was “irresponsible,” the Jordan amendment would “commit this country to an economic death spiral.”

Among the Republicans voting with Democrats to torpedo the extra $22 billion: Eric Cantor, Kevin McCarthy, new star Kristi Noem, and committee chairmen Dan Lungren, Hal Rogers, and Jo Bonner. The best I can do by way of spin here is that maybe this is a bit of kabuki by the GOP in anticipation of an increasingly inevitable government shutdown. Pelosi’s aides are already warning Democrats that the Senate and House may be too far apart to compromise and that a shutdown is likely (especially now that amendments to defund O-Care, Planned Parenthood, and Obama’s czars have been added). And government officials who served during the 1995 shutdown are warning the White House that if they don’t already have a plan in place to deal with it, they’d better get crackin’. Maybe Cantor et al. figure that if there’s not going to be a deal, it’s best to start preparing the ground for the media war over the shutdown by opting for the modest cuts. That way when the left screams “draconian!”, they can respond by claiming that the GOP actually took a “middle path.”

The problem with that logic, though, is that when a deal is struck to end the shutdown, we’ll be stuck with a still lower amount of cuts yet. Instead of coming to the table with $100 billion out and settling for $78 billion, the GOP will be going in there with $78 billion out and destined to take less. And of course, there’s nothing stopping them from arguing — entirely correctly — that $100 billion in no way qualifies as “draconian” when it’s not even 10 percent of this year’s deficit. They won an election three months ago because they promised to cut spending, and now they’re cutting it. If the Democrats would rather shut down the government than accept the plain and patent fact that we’re desperately broke as a nation, let them explain why. In fact, that’d be a nice jumping-off point for a discussion of The One’s disgraceful cowardice in refusing to deal with entitlements. Frame the $100 billion as something “draconian” that the GOP simply had to do because the golfer-in-chief apparently no longer takes his job seriously. Instead, they’re evidently going to go the “middle path” route. How lucky do you feel?

Exit quotation from Ace: “The GOP is dead to me.”

Update: Actually, the situation’s even grimmer than I thought. Jordan’s cuts wouldn’t have brought the total number up to $100 billion but merely to $83 billion. Terrific.


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karenhasfreedom on February 18, 2011 at 8:55 PM

What she said…

Chewy the Lab on February 18, 2011 at 9:16 PM

Just calm down, please.

karenhasfreedom on February 18, 2011 at 8:55 PM

+1

HondaV65 on February 18, 2011 at 8:59 PM

While your passion has always been awesome, is it possible to be a little more patient?

Did we really think it was going to be so easy to intimidate the Dems? These Representatives are having to govern without the benefit of a worthwhile President taking any leadership at all. They are attempting to do their jobs and his too while he prepares to sand-bag them. How about understanding what they’re up against before you desert them?

rwenger43 on February 18, 2011 at 9:20 PM

rwenger43 on February 18, 2011 at 9:20 PM

Well said!

Chewy the Lab on February 18, 2011 at 9:22 PM

RINO’s are gutless.

technopeasant on February 18, 2011 at 9:26 PM

The Ruling Class is afraid of shutting down the government.

They are pathetic fools.

HondaV65 on February 18, 2011 at 9:02 PM

Yes, that’s the sum of it. There is no recognition among the GOP ruling class of the gap between our great and founding notions as a free people and our current corruption, and certainly no realization that an evil is at work. Cantor, et al are thoroughly mediocre and unimaginative people. This will not change with an election. It is our modern plague.

rrpjr on February 18, 2011 at 9:28 PM

Note to Speaker Boehner:

You might want to eliminate that little promise of transparency. Seems like many of us conservative voters don’t appreciate seeing the nuts and bolts of what goes into building conservative consensus. we might abandon you based on a failure to appreciate the context of your actions. I’m warning you now that you need to become John Madden and provide commentary if you are going to continue to allow us to see the way you are calling and running plays.

I’m sure you would agree that you need us to continue the Red Wave in 2012. If transparency costs you more support than it gains you, you have my support in pulling the plug.

rwenger43 on February 18, 2011 at 9:30 PM

Exactly. Voting tea party 2012.

Unless there is a way to Primary every single GOP member and replace them with new people there is no hope. As long as even a few of the old guard remain (like McConnel for example) the party will be hopelessly compromised

And Kristi Noem is nothing more than the GOP version of Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, albeit more telegenic.

Sugarbuzz on February 18, 2011 at 9:06 PM

Wrong. Coming up with an acceptable candidate to primary a sitting House member, or coming up with an acceptable candidate to run on a third party ticket is really the same thing, -only the primary route offers you a better chance of winning the numbers needed to take the House.

Take over the Republican Party. A third party will lead to disaster.

slickwillie2001 on February 18, 2011 at 9:33 PM

rwenger43 on February 18, 2011 at 9:20 PM

I wish I could be as positive as you but I know these guys track record. McCarthy is my congressman and while I like him well enough I don’t see any real artillery fire coming from him and his two “young guns” cohorts. You make a good point about Obama’s sandbagging. If you see it and the rest of us HA lowlifes do why don’t our legislators address the problems?
I am ready to go CBN on most of these fkrs—-dem and repubs. CBN does not refer to the network either.

arnold ziffel on February 18, 2011 at 9:37 PM

Take over the Republican Party. A third party will lead to disaster.

slickwillie2001 on February 18, 2011 at 9:33 PM

I’ll take either at this point since the GOP, in current form, is an utter disaster.

HondaV65 on February 18, 2011 at 9:46 PM

This isn’t as big a deal as it sounds like. Let’s not be dramatic. Just because some member’s don’t want to do a straight across the board cut doesn’t mean that they’re not serious about cutting. Instead of cutting across the board by a random 5% number maybe we can look at areas (Dept. of Education, Dept. of Energy, National Endowment for the Arts, etc.) where we can make much more drastic cuts. And maybe we can not cut as much for something that is very beneficial to us all like Space exploration. Just a thought – and I am quite certain that is why many members who are pro budget cuts didn’t vote for the RSC amendment.

dczombie on February 18, 2011 at 9:46 PM

Oh and the RSC really should have whipped the vote before hand and withdrawn the amendment if it wasn’t going to pass. There are simply better ways to cut the budget than to have a major PR debacle like this.

dczombie on February 18, 2011 at 9:47 PM

Oh and the RSC really should have whipped the vote before hand and withdrawn the amendment if it wasn’t going to pass.

dczombie on February 18, 2011 at 9:47 PM

Uhm … the Republican WHIP voted against it!!

Leadership knew this would fail – they planned it to fail. The #2 and #3 GOP leaders in the house voted against the cuts.

HondaV65 on February 18, 2011 at 9:50 PM

I was all set to do a celebratory moral-victory post about the votes to defund Planned Parenthood and ObamaCare, but how can we party now?

This attempt at common ground between fiscal cons and social cons will not work. If you defund Planned Parenthood, government expenses and the debt are just going to go way up. Fiscally, it’s just an insane move, and no fiscal con should support it.

thuja on February 18, 2011 at 9:50 PM

If you defund Planned Parenthood, government expenses and the debt are just going to go way up. Fiscally, it’s just an insane move, and no fiscal con should support it.

thuja on February 18, 2011 at 9:50 PM

LMFAO!

I’ll let others light into you for that one!

Ridiculous comment!!

HondaV65 on February 18, 2011 at 9:53 PM

Can’t wait to see what wonders Sarah Palin’s Facebook may reveal over the weekend due to this fiasco!

Hopefully she’ll hit it hard – we all know Mittens won’t say nutin’ !! :P

HondaV65 on February 18, 2011 at 9:56 PM

If you defund Planned Parenthood, government expenses and the debt are just going to go way up.

Translation: Kill the babies… for the children!

Y-not on February 18, 2011 at 9:57 PM

Actually, this is all good. Unlike last time, this time most VOTING Americans realize the problem of a $14 trillion debt, and the impact of adding another $1.5 trillion this year.

If that means a shut down, it does.

The Republicans in the House should get smart and vote for spending bills on a “per department” basis. Start with the DoD. Let the Senate Dems obstruct it, or Obama veto it. If neither happens, then at least we have the military covered. Then move on to the next department. Do departments like Education last. If they have to go without funds for 6 months — oh well. Just too bad boo hoo for them.

SunSword on February 18, 2011 at 10:01 PM

If what I heard from Rush earlier in the week and late last week is correct, the vote today was for the “continuing budget resolution”.

Within the budget resolution, is $100 Billion dollars of obamacare funding.

If the GOP was going to honor their pre-election “pledge” to defund obamacare – the $100 Billion they were looking to cut AND defunding of obamacare would have been done in one fell swoop.

I don’t have all the details, maybe someone else here does, but I have briefly read articles that say the IRS funds to enforce obamacare mandates were cut as well as some HHS obamacare funds through amendments to the budget resolution.

I think however, this was nibbling at the edges while leaving the behemoth, the $100 Billion in obamacare funding which was in the body of the resolution, intact and passed.

If this is true, this is monumental bad faith on the part of the GOP; they are implementing obamacare (declared unconstitutional, will states sue Congress for this?) instead of honoring their promise to defund/repeal.

To rub salt in the wound, there’s the $100 Billion goal that could have been counted as cut. What am I missing here?

tigerlily on February 18, 2011 at 10:05 PM

If you defund Planned Parenthood, government expenses and the debt are just going to go way up. Fiscally, it’s just an insane move, and no fiscal con should support it.

thuja on February 18, 2011 at 9:50 PM

Holy Friar Tuck. Do you honestly believe what you just spewed?

I know you’ve been commenting on here a long time; I’m just trying to remember why it was that I ever respected your opinion. That’s not a big problem now, I must say.

If you have looked at what our government is now doing and spending, and typed that with a straight face, please seek help quickly. HURRY. It’s for the choodwin.

hillbillyjim on February 18, 2011 at 10:23 PM

Wrong. Coming up with an acceptable candidate to primary a sitting House member, or coming up with an acceptable candidate to run on a third party ticket is really the same thing, -only the primary route offers you a better chance of winning the numbers needed to take the House.

Take over the Republican Party. A third party will lead to disaster.

slickwillie2001 on February 18, 2011 at 9:33 PM

Oh god here we go again with the gameplaying

You know at this point I don’t give a good goddamn anymore. It’s obvious we are on an unstoppable freight train heading towards armed conflict of some sort with the parasitical elements that have firmly lodged themselves in America’s anus. Let’s just get to it already and have done, one way or another.

Sugarbuzz on February 18, 2011 at 10:24 PM

Scott H – If you think Joe Donnelly would say that when he opposed the 100 billion, 83 billion, 78 billion and 61 billion you must think that he is willing to commit political suicide just to make a point for you on a blog.

Chuck Norton on February 18, 2011 at 10:29 PM

What did you expect? The GOP stands for nothing, and is lead by the same losers who flushed what was left of its integrity down the hole in 06 and 08.

james23 on February 18, 2011 at 10:43 PM

Just listened to Mark Levin discuss this on his show tonight.
Fire and brimstone. Before I listened I admit I was in total confusion. I read all the posts on Hot Air and still couldn’t reconcile this vote with the previous rhetoric of the Republican Party. Other than some double secret plot to trick the Democrats, nothing made sense. Can’t vote to cut $22 billion given a $1.6 trillion ANNUAL deficit? Kristi Noem a “no”? WTF are these people thinking?!

Has anyone found the roll call yet? Can’t wait to see it.

ncjetsfan on February 18, 2011 at 10:43 PM

Uhm … the Republican WHIP voted against it!!

Leadership knew this would fail – they planned it to fail. The #2 and #3 GOP leaders in the house voted against the cuts.

HondaV65 on February 18, 2011 at 9:50 PM

Yeah, I’m not proud of leadership for screwing this up but at the same time I maintain that Jordan should have done his own whip count and figured out the ramifications of failure before insisting on the vote. I like Jordan, I work for an RSC member, I love the RSC. I just think that this was botched by both conference leadership and RSC leadership. This vote shouldn’t have happend if it wasn’t going to pass. Period.

dczombie on February 18, 2011 at 10:51 PM

What did Levin say?

karenhasfreedom on February 18, 2011 at 10:52 PM

I think we can cut NASA loose at this point in exchange for the D of E’s being gutted. The last Shuttle launch is soon (purposely delayed so certain government workers could have another year to find new positions at NASA). Other than that, they have a couple car size probes that can be transferred to some universities and a bunch of research studies. Our space exploration will now come from the military and private businesses, as it should. Cut NASA loose. It is a 60′sprogram for God’s sake. the shuttle was designed in the early 70′s, and they never got past that program. And they have a very crappy cable station.

AZCON on February 18, 2011 at 10:53 PM

Long weekend coming up.

Bust out your walkin’ shoes and start making some signs, we gotta get our Tea Party on.

SuperCool on February 18, 2011 at 10:56 PM

Hmmm. The Democrats are Commies, the Republicans are spineless collaborators… Maybe the problem is in the mirror. Just keep making the moat smaller and smaller…

pm123 on February 18, 2011 at 10:59 PM

Oh god here we go again with the gameplaying

You know at this point I don’t give a good goddamn anymore. It’s obvious we are on an unstoppable freight train heading towards armed conflict of some sort with the parasitical elements that have firmly lodged themselves in America’s anus. Let’s just get to it already and have done, one way or another.

Sugarbuzz on February 18, 2011 at 10:24 PM

Be careful what you wish for. Oh, and Libtards can pull a trigger just as easily as any of us Conservatives.

The only winner will be the Marxists-Socialists and as always the uber-wealthy. Weimar to NSDAP all over again, just a slightly different politik.

Dr. ZhivBlago on February 18, 2011 at 11:10 PM

Yeah, I’m not proud of leadership for screwing this up but at the same time I maintain that Jordan should have done his own whip count and figured out the ramifications of failure before insisting on the vote. I like Jordan, I work for an RSC member, I love the RSC. I just think that this was botched by both conference leadership and RSC leadership. This vote shouldn’t have happend if it wasn’t going to pass. Period.

dczombie on February 18, 2011 at 10:51 PM

No – I think the vote was held anyway so that the Ruling Class could “shove it” to the the grassroots.

Let’s face it – there’s a rift between the grassroots and the ruling class – it’s been a relatively cold war – but it was going to go hot. I believe the ruling class believes it’s better to go “hot” early and get it out of the way – hoping that the grassroots will accept their leadership and work with them in 2012.

But the result will actually be contrary to their calculations. Appears that when Nancy Pelosi called the Tea Party “Astroturf” …

She wasn’t the only one that didn’t understand the real situation. It was explained to her by the voters at the polls in November. It will be explained to the Ruling Class GOP in the next.

HondaV65 on February 18, 2011 at 11:10 PM

Why is Eric Cantor always on the wrong side of spending issues?

NORUK on February 18, 2011 at 11:12 PM

The only winner will be the Marxists-Socialists and as always the uber-wealthy. Weimar to NSDAP all over again, just a slightly different politik.

Dr. ZhivBlago on February 18, 2011 at 11:10 PM

LOL – I don’t know where you live – but here in the South – there will NEVER, repeat … NEVER be a Socialist regime in charge of us unless it’s enforced by the bayonet.

And even then – it won’t last long. Bank that.

HondaV65 on February 18, 2011 at 11:13 PM

“What did Levin say?”

He was great. It was the first subject he covered.

http://www.marklevinshow.com/sectional.asp?id=32930

ncjetsfan on February 18, 2011 at 11:13 PM

Because he’s Republican. There isn’t a small government party in Congress. Hasn’t been in 2 generations. Ready for one?

james23 on February 18, 2011 at 11:22 PM

Anybody sorry now that a few brave souls set up Tea Party Caucuses in both chambers? All great things start with small moves.
In-Tea Party
Out-Whigs

james23 on February 18, 2011 at 11:42 PM

Looks like the Republicans still haven’t learned that America wants Conservatives, not RINOs. If they don’t have the courage to do the hard things that are necessary, I can’t see why we need them at all. I can’t wait until the next election…..

glockomatic on February 18, 2011 at 11:53 PM

It’s called re-election fever! These spineless bastards will not go to the wall for us. They want their jobs number one and our respect number 2. As for Cantor and Noem, I have seen them in action and they have left me cold. I saw that guppy Cantor on a talk show before the election responding to a taunt by the Demorat Wasserman-shultz about the re-enactment guy who wore a NAZI uniform. Cantor said that he would never endorse someone like that! It was a f**king re-enactment. The guy had worn ALL uniforms over the years. He is a dunce. And Noem is a real light weight with a light weight background in money matters. Boehner is the one who is ultimately responsible for this mess and he had better have a damn good PR line ready for the public.

inspectorudy on February 18, 2011 at 11:54 PM

I am embarrassed to be registered under that name.

AshleyTKing on February 19, 2011 at 1:54 AM

Most politicians will not vote on cutting areas that will greatly hurt their re-election chances. Being in office is a dream for them, and they like the perks and the power.

Just face it, we will have another economic collapse, and the Dems and GOP will find someone to blame other than themselves. It might be next year, it might be in more than 5 years, but it is coming like a tidal wave.

V-rod on February 19, 2011 at 2:01 AM

What did Levin say?

dmann on February 19, 2011 at 4:06 AM

Why is Eric Cantor always on the wrong side of spending issues?

NORUK on February 18, 2011 at 11:12 PM

Cantor talks a good line, but he is an all-too-typical politician. Really, though, what else should we expect from a 47-year-old man who calls himself a “Young Gun”?

DrMagnolias on February 19, 2011 at 5:48 AM

. And Noem is a real light weight with a light weight background in money matters. Boehner is the one who is ultimately responsible for this mess and he had better have a damn good PR line ready for the public.

inspectorudy on February 18, 2011 at 11:54 PM

Totally concur with your assessment of Cantor and Noem. Cantor has always seemed like a weasel to me. I have worse feelings for Noem though. She rode in on the tea party wave and she has been completely co-opted by the establishment. They are “grooming” her and she just feels privileged and grateful I’m sure. I knew something was afoot when the establishment immediately gave her a cushy committee position. She is pathetic, and I hope she gets primaried by the voters who trusted her.

KickandSwimMom on February 19, 2011 at 7:31 AM

Has anyone found the roll call yet? Can’t wait to see it.

ncjetsfan on February 18, 2011 at 10:43 PM


Here it is:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2011-103

diogenes on February 19, 2011 at 7:56 AM

The GOP will betray you…

True_King on February 19, 2011 at 8:14 AM

The GOP will betray you…

True_King on February 19, 2011 at 8:14 AM

I was expecting you to show up with that line a lot earlier in this thread.

Sugarbuzz on February 19, 2011 at 8:21 AM

Rep. Jim Moran (D-Va.) said that while the entire spending bill was “irresponsible,” the Jordan amendment would “commit this country to an economic death spiral.”

We’re already there, pal.

Waiting for Sarah Palin’s Facebook post.

ElectricPhase on February 19, 2011 at 8:49 AM

Why are you guys fretting over these cuts? They’re almost meaningless (except for pulling funds for O-Care etc) Thy don’t even dent the deficit because those spending issues aren’t the problem. The problem lies in food stamps, Medicaid etc. THAT is why we have a 1.5 trillion deficit. The vote to cut those programs just hasn’t happened yet.

BrianVII on February 19, 2011 at 8:50 AM

Anymore proof the social cons are ruining this party? Overwhleming votes to defund planned parenthood but not 100 billion in cuts.

Thanks guys!

Notorious GOP on February 19, 2011 at 8:59 AM

I just scanned the roll call and see that Allen West voted against it? WTH?? Look, I’ve read that the reason these republicans voted against the amendment was because it gave the executive branch the power to make the actual cuts to the programs. HOWEVER, so what?? The government is sooo bloated that even if they made cuts to all the programs the republicans didn’t want to cut it still would not have made a dent in those programs. Every republican should have voted FOR this amendment. We’re talking 22 billion out of 1.3+ trillion – a few grains of sand on a massive beach. I’m really disappointed in West.

KickandSwimMom on February 19, 2011 at 9:01 AM

I just scanned the roll call and see that Allen West voted against it? WTH?? Look, I’ve read that the reason these republicans voted against the amendment was because it gave the executive branch the power to make the actual cuts to the programs. HOWEVER, so what?? The government is sooo bloated that even if they made cuts to all the programs the republicans didn’t want to cut it still would not have made a dent in those programs. Every republican should have voted FOR this amendment. We’re talking 22 billion out of 1.3+ trillion – a few grains of sand on a massive beach. I’m really disappointed in West.

KickandSwimMom on February 19, 2011 at 9:01 AM

So did Hot Air’s favorite conservative, Paul Ryan.

Notorious GOP on February 19, 2011 at 9:04 AM

KickandSwimMom on February 19, 2011 at 9:01 AM

I gotta believe there is something at play that we do not know about..I hope it will reveal itself soon..:)

Dire Straits on February 19, 2011 at 9:05 AM

So did Hot Air’s favorite conservative, Paul Ryan.

Notorious GOP on February 19, 2011 at 9:04 AM

I believe you are incorrect on that. Ryan voted for the amendment.

KickandSwimMom on February 19, 2011 at 9:08 AM

I believe you are incorrect on that. Ryan voted for the amendment.

KickandSwimMom on February 19, 2011 at 9:08 AM

You’re right. I was thinking about his vote to NOT defund the national labor unions board. More pandering to the unions from one of Hot Air’s favorite conservative.

Notorious GOP on February 19, 2011 at 9:10 AM

So did Hot Air’s favorite conservative, Paul Ryan.

Notorious GOP on February 19, 2011 at 9:04 AM

Read it again – Ryan is an Aye on the amendment (along with Reid Ribble out of Wisconsin; the other 3 Wisconsin “Republicans”, including the usually-reliable Sensenbrenner, were nays).

steveegg on February 19, 2011 at 9:12 AM

So did Hot Air’s favorite conservative, Paul Ryan.

Notorious GOP on February 19, 2011 at 9:04 AM

No he didn’t – get your facts correct.

And connecting the SoCons with this vote in any fashion or form is also digging for malarky. SoCon’s didn’t kill this amendment – the GOP leadership and establishment did.

Bloody hell – Landry of Louisiana is as SoCon as they come and he voted for the cuts.

HondaV65 on February 19, 2011 at 9:25 AM

Again, but he still voted to not defund the National Labor relations board. The guy has pandered the unions his entire voting career. It all started with his union bailouts.

Notorious GOP on February 19, 2011 at 9:45 AM

This attempt at common ground between fiscal cons and social cons will not work. If you defund Planned Parenthood, government expenses and the debt are just going to go way up. Fiscally, it’s just an insane move, and no fiscal con should support it.

thuja on February 18, 2011 at 9:50 PM

This makes no sense whatsoever, and I’m saying this as someone who recognizes that PP does some good. And yet, it’s not fully funded by the government, nor are services even remotely free at most places.

To believe these funds are fiscally conservative is to believe ObamaCare is fiscally conservative. Which really takes some twisting. It’s far more likely that your feelings for social cons, pro-lifers in particular, are guiding you here.

Esthier on February 19, 2011 at 9:52 AM

Anymore proof the social cons are ruining this party? Overwhleming votes to defund planned parenthood but not 100 billion in cuts.

Thanks guys!

Notorious GOP on February 19, 2011 at 8:59 AM

This is childish and stupid. So are you upset that social cons would defund something or upset that they’re not defunding enough? Don’t worry. You hate social cons, so you can have it both ways.

Esthier on February 19, 2011 at 9:54 AM

Again, but he still voted to not defund the National Labor relations board. The guy has pandered the unions his entire voting career. It all started with his union bailouts.

Notorious GOP on February 19, 2011 at 9:45 AM

Look – we DE-Funded ObamaCare and Planned Parenthood. ObamaCare was passed as an “abortion” by the Democratic Congress and it will bankrupt the nation. CBO says repealing it will save over 1 Trillion in deficits over the next 10 years – plenty of justification to defund ObamaCare.

Planned Parenthood just got caught in an “acorn-like” sting – plenty of reason to defund Planned Parenthood.

National Labor Relations Board? I dunno – they “arbitrate” labor disputes don’t they? I mean, I hate unions – but the fact is we DO have them (for the moment) – what if the airlines go on strike? Don’t we need someone to arbitrate and get involved to keep commerce up and running? Fact is – we do have unions in some pretty vital positions and if they go on strike – stuff starts shutting down and people are impacted. I would have to look hard at this vote … maybe I’d vote to defund but I don’t know.

But who cares? It’s one vote … the important vote here was the 100 billion and he at least voted for that.

Don’t mistake me as a Ryan fanboy either – I don’t agree with half the stuff he says – but he DOES have a plan to get us back on the road to fiscal sanity so at least he’s engaged.

HondaV65 on February 19, 2011 at 9:57 AM

This is childish and stupid. So are you upset that social cons would defund something or upset that they’re not defunding enough? Don’t worry. You hate social cons, so you can have it both ways.

Esthier on February 19, 2011 at 9:54 AM

What’s amazing is that suggesting that SoCons killed the 100B in cuts is just crazy on it’s face when you look at who voted for the cuts.

There are PLENTY of SoCons who voted for the cuts. Hell – Mike Pence just stood up at CPAC and said there’d be NO truce on Social Issues – firmly asserting his SoCon status – he voted “Aye” for the cuts.

Landry from Louisiana is about the most Pro-Life guy I know – he voted “Aye”.

Plenty, if not the majority of SoCon’s voted for the cuts. Isn’t a Bachmann a “SoCon”??? She voted yes. Most of the SoCons come from the South – most of the Republicans who voted “Aye” came from the South.

HondaV65 on February 19, 2011 at 10:04 AM

Alan West has some ‘splaining to do about his vote on this. I was very surprised to see he voted against it. As I stated above, even if it was a matter that the republicans did not want the executive branch to make the actual cuts, it did not warrant a no vote. The 11% across the board was so small in these bloated budgets that it would not have really hurt any of the programs that ended up being cut. I don’t care whether they were pet democrat or republican programs. Any cut is a good cut.

KickandSwimMom on February 19, 2011 at 10:44 AM

I was expecting you to show up with that line a lot earlier in this thread.

Sugarbuzz on February 19, 2011 at 8:21 AM

I’ve been hanging out at other blogs telling them the same thing I’ve been telling you all for years.

Hot Air has gone establishment.

True_King on February 19, 2011 at 10:50 AM

Wait . . . Cantor too? He’s a pretty good guy. Is there more to this? Sounds unbelievable.

Pablo Snooze on February 19, 2011 at 11:04 AM

I broke my hand and was out of it yesterday with painkillers, so I missed this news. I was wondering why, when I woke up around 6 this morning, that the number for the cuts was 40 billion less than I expected. I am not surprised that twerp Cantor’s name popped up as an obstructionist, how typical of him, and Noem was accepted too readily by the GOP fossils that I figured she couldn’t be trusted. West is a surprise, I want to hear his explanation.

Even if they wanted to play politics with this, why not force the Senate to deal with the much larger cuts and then put forth these cuts as the alternative? That way the public would see the GOP as compromising and the media can’t blame the shutdown on them. Now the only way for the cowards in the GOP to avoid any blame is to settle for even smaller cuts than these.

House cleaning in 2012 is needed, this may include West.

Daemonocracy on February 19, 2011 at 12:24 PM

This attempt at common ground between fiscal cons and social cons will not work. If you defund Planned Parenthood, government expenses and the debt are just going to go way up. Fiscally, it’s just an insane move, and no fiscal con should support it.

thuja on February 18, 2011 at 9:50 PM

That’s sick – honest, but sick. Battling God by killing his precious innocnet human creatures in the name of money is my definition of insanity.

Don L on February 19, 2011 at 12:50 PM

If the GOP cut the Dept of Energy and the Dept of Education it would be close to the billion they are after. 100 billion is nothing compared to what the government doles out in a year. The politicians have some fuzzy math.

mixplix on February 19, 2011 at 2:41 PM

If you defund Planned Parenthood, government expenses and the debt are just going to go way up.

Translation: Kill the babies… for the children!

Y-not on February 18, 2011 at 9:57 PM

Translation: Kill the Democrat babies… for the children!

FIFY

“Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.” Napoleon

MSimon on February 19, 2011 at 10:12 PM

How about we kill the DEA. It costs $25 billion a year.

It is easier for a kid to get an illegal drug than a legal beer.

I propose doing the same for free.

MSimon on February 19, 2011 at 10:14 PM

This attempt at common ground between fiscal cons and social cons will not work. If you defund Planned Parenthood, government expenses and the debt are just going to go way up. Fiscally, it’s just an insane move, and no fiscal con should support it.

thuja on February 18, 2011 at 9:50 PM

Defunding PP is a great move, but unless/until we quit subsidizing reproduction it’s only half the battle. If the right can’t turn their sacred cow into hamburger, the Dems will restore funding to PP the next time they’re in power and all will continue as (ab)normal.

Dark-Star on February 20, 2011 at 12:06 AM

Translation: Kill the Democrat babies… for the children!

FIFY

“Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.” Napoleon

MSimon on February 19, 2011 at 10:12 PM

To be quite blunt about it, they aren’t making mistakes fast enough. Or to be more specific – they aren’t killing their mistakes fast enough. Abortion doesn’t work as birth control unless you go to Chinese levels, which I hope we never see.

Dark-Star on February 20, 2011 at 12:08 AM

Take over the Republican Party. A third party will lead to disaster.

slickwillie2001 on February 18, 2011 at 9:33 PM

I’ve been hearing the same thing after every election since 1972. It hasn’t worked yet. Will a third party actually lead to any bigger disaster than what we already have? After all the only difference at this point is when we all go over the category infinity waterfall.

chemman on February 20, 2011 at 12:20 AM

Drastic problems require drastic solutions and this may be one of those times. Past governments have played footsie forever and it’s clear it hasn’t worked. Chop I say and keep at it and let the chips fall. It’s time to quit being timid and smack the old guard down, hard.( and I’m not even a Tea Partier)

jeanie on February 20, 2011 at 10:25 AM

What a bunch of geniuses! With idiots like y’all on our side, it’s amazing we ever got anything done at all.

In the long run, we either reform entitlements and sharply reduce discretionary spending or we don’t. Whether or not an extra 0.5% of the budget is “cut” by this CR or not is, in the final analysis, completely irrelevant. The real cuts and reforms can’t happen until after the next election, Einsteins.

What’s happened here is a power play in the GOP Caucus. Some wanted to circumvent the committee process altogether and got slapped down.

When you go off bellowing like impaled wildebeests and hollering “Armageddon” over a little parliamentary discipline, you really need to get a grip and get back on the meds.

Adjoran on February 20, 2011 at 2:43 PM

Alright, screw them. All of them. They had their chance, and have proven to us all, for once and for all, that elections no longer matter. This is not a representative democracy any longer, it’s a tyranny, and it’s time to do something drastic and dramatic about it.

Yeah, I said it.

Honestly, there’s no alternative left to us.

Midas on February 20, 2011 at 4:40 PM

Tell me a lot of them voted no because the amendment cuts weren’t deep enough?

Jaibones on February 20, 2011 at 9:29 PM

Good-bye GOP; I stayed with you too long. Looks to me like there are going to be a lot of serious primary fights – I’ll be donating to anyone running against the current GOP leaders.

Over50 on February 20, 2011 at 9:39 PM

Allah needs to update this. I have called Noem’s office and Kinzinger’s to find out WTF they are thinking on this, but although they both open at 8:30am, neither one is answering.

Gee, I wonder why?

Jaibones on February 21, 2011 at 8:52 AM

Duh…President’s Day? I didn’t even know that was today…

Jaibones on February 21, 2011 at 9:07 AM

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