Dems on the run: Wisconsin senators to leave Illinois for undisclosed location

posted at 7:03 pm on February 17, 2011 by Allahpundit

Via Gateway Pundit, this story’s not going to end until we have a live chopper feed of their bus speeding away along the highway and Shep Smith breaking in on Fox to do car-chase commentary, is it?

Sen. Jon Erpenbach tells 27 News that Democrats are leaving Rockford, Illinois right now. He would not say their destination.

They have been at the Clock Tower Resort and Conference Center in Rockford.

Our sister station in Rockford, WREX spoke with lawmakers there. WREX reports one lawmaker said, “It’s kind of everyone for themselves.”

Yep, they’re splittin’ up. Harder to find them that way! Quote:

In a telephone interview, Senate Minority Leader Mark Miller (D-Monona) said he was upholding the rights of workers and the democratic process. He declined to give his location but acknowledged that at least one other Democrat was with him. He said that law enforcement would be able to compel him and his members to the Senate floor if they are located in Wisconsin.

“I can tell you this – we’re not all in one place,” Miller said. “This is a watershed moment unlike any that we have experienced in our political lifetimes. The people have shown that the government has gone too far . . .  We are prepared to do what is necessary to make sure that this bill gets the consideration it needs.”

“The people” haven’t done anything except elect a GOP majority. If they don’t like the new union laws, there’s an easy fix next election day, isn’t there? You know, reading all this, I’m thinking back to the “party of no” crap during Obama’s first two years and wondering how the media would have reacted if the GOP had decided to protest the Democratic agenda by not showing up to work anymore. Unlike this, that move wouldn’t have blocked any Senate business: It only takes 51 for a quorum so the Dems and their 60-seat majority could have safely proceeded on legislation. Yet the screeching about unserious Republican sore losers being incapable of governing, etc etc, would have been endless. And before anyone objects, no, today’s walkout isn’t the equivalent of a filibuster. Like it or not, the filibuster’s a mainstream tactic blessed by both parties when they pass the rules for the Senate at the start of the term and happily used by whichever side is in the minority. It’s business as usual, for better or worse. A walkout isn’t — although maybe it will be now. Is that the left’s goal in this? To turn fleeing the state into a legit American political tactic?

Go read Jay Nordlinger’s post at the Corner about how adherents of the Party of Civility are now threatening Wisconsin’s Republican senators with I-know-where-you-live intimidation. Nordlinger wonders why the union stooge-in-chief doesn’t open his mouth to suggest, perhaps, that everyone take a deep breath and calm down. To which I say, when he has ever done that, really? Obama’s shtick has always been to stay above the fray while his surrogates get nasty, then cover his ass when asked about it later by vaguely insisting that “both sides” should behave better. He won’t intervene to calm things down, which is why his “let’s disagree without being disagreeable” rhetoric has always been a fraud. You’re seeing a particularly stark illustration of that today.


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A felony conviction and sentencing of a state senator creates a vacancy in the
office without any action by the senate. 65 Atty. Gen. 264.
WoosterOh on February 17, 2011 at 7:36 PM

HAHHAHHHAHAHHA!!!!!!!

upinak on February 17, 2011 at 7:38 PM

In CA, it’s a closed shop. You teach, you pay union dues.

AnninCA on February 17, 2011 at 7:38 PM

2010 $198,500 Daniel Nerad District Administrator Madison Metropolitan Sch Dist
2010 $184,000 Gregory Maass District Administrator Green Bay Area Sch Dist
2010 $180,000 James Shaw District Administrator Racine Sch Dist
2010 $175,062 William Andrekopoulos District Administrator Milwaukee Sch Dist
2010 $170,850 James Rickabaugh District Administrator Whitefish Bay Sch Dist
2010 $166,089 Paul Kreutzer District Administrator New Berlin Sch Dist
2010 $165,626 Thomas Westerhaus District Administrator River Falls Sch Dist
2010 $164,779 Karen Petric District Administrator Whitnall Sch Dist
2010 $163,256 William Hughes District Administrator Greendale Sch Dist
2010 $162,000 Ronald Heilmann District Administrator Eau Claire Area Sch Dist
2010 $159,299 Eric Hartwig Director of Special Education Marathon Co CDEB
2010 $157,926 Steve Patz District Administrator Franklin Public Sch Dist
2010 $156,783 Norman Fjelstad District Administrator Edgerton Sch Dist
2010 $154,993 Daryl Herrick District Administrator Cedarburg Sch Dist
2010 $154,895 Kathleen Cooke District Administrator Hamilton Sch Dist
2010 $154,652 Craig Gerlach District Administrator Monona Grove Sch Dist

And that’s just the tip of the iceberg!!

WisCon on February 17, 2011 at 7:33 PM

We need more transparency. I am sure that this does not include their “benefits”. And, how long do they have to work before they can retire with full benefits?

SC.Charlie on February 17, 2011 at 7:38 PM

labor is desperate, they have already lost the good will of the public who is hurting. they r toast.

but let them waste their $$ now, less for them to spend in 12

ginaswo on February 17, 2011 at 7:38 PM

Bruce MacMahon on February 17, 2011 at 7:10 PM

Thanks for your service from the Lakes Region.

Just curious-whatever happened to the NH Leg vote that would force the (Democrat) NH Attorney General to sign on to the multi-state O’bamaCare lawsuit?

Del Dolemonte on February 17, 2011 at 7:39 PM

…adherents of the Party of Civility are now threatening Wisconsin’s Republican senators with I-know-where-you-live intimidation.

You know, we know where the Democraps live, too. AND we know that they are not home. Just sayin’…

GISAP on February 17, 2011 at 7:39 PM

oh gee they r yelling Kill the Bill in background on Kudlow tsk tsk. thought that was ‘threatening’ when we TPP did it to try and stop Obamacare…

ginaswo on February 17, 2011 at 7:40 PM

WisCon on February 17, 2011 at 7:33 PM

Those figures need to be grossed up to reflect just how cushy government jobs are: taxpayer protected, inflation adjusted pension funds, massive amount of sick time paid out at retirement, guaranteed salary increases regardless of, and in spite of, lack of performance.

Not so mention summers off.

pedestrian on February 17, 2011 at 7:40 PM

Bon Jovi is a decent choice, I nominate this 80s tune from Slade for the official song of the Wisconsin Democratic Party:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIF18eP2nTQ

swamp_yankee on February 17, 2011 at 7:41 PM

Hwy where’s MadCon?
Doesn’t he live in Madison?

Badger40 on February 17, 2011 at 7:29 PM

*cough*

Bee on February 17, 2011 at 7:41 PM

Michelle Malkin is reporting on Twitter that the House voted to defund 9 Obama Czars

William Amos on February 17, 2011 at 7:34 PM

Nice. Pull 9 Feed Tubes. Let those leaches starve.

Geochelone on February 17, 2011 at 7:41 PM

Hwy where’s MadCon?

Doesn’t he live in Madison?

Badger40 on February 17, 2011 at 7:29 PM

Was on another of the other WI threads earlier-I haven’t checked them out in a couple of hours though.

Del Dolemonte on February 17, 2011 at 7:42 PM

Hey .. anyone know the names of the legislators who skipped state?

upinak on February 17, 2011 at 7:43 PM

Hmm, the dems in Texas did something similar a few years back. The Texas Rangers had to go after them. Not the baseball team.

carbon_footprint on February 17, 2011 at 7:43 PM

Thanks for the info about the vacancy. That would be a radical step, but I don’t think these Dems are really going to stay away long. It sounds to me like it’s already unravelling.

AnninCA on February 17, 2011 at 7:43 PM

I just read this in the Wisconsin Constitution, says Majority.

Organization of legislature; quorum; compulsory
attendance. SECTION 7. Each house shall be the judge of the
elections, returns and qualifications of its own members; and a majority of each shall constitute a quorum to do business
, but a smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and may compel
the attendance of absent members in such manner and under
such penalties as each house may provide.

WoosterOh on February 17, 2011 at 7:43 PM

Here is a song for the occasion

MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS – Nowhere To Run

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhcflDSUMvc

William Amos on February 17, 2011 at 7:43 PM

Wait ‘em out Gov. Walker, because if you don’t you’ll have too much to lose. If they get away with it this time, they’ll do it there and everywhere else they can. It’s show down time!

jeanie on February 17, 2011 at 7:44 PM

Bee on February 17, 2011 at 7:41 PM

Good to see you Bee!..:)

Dire Straits on February 17, 2011 at 7:44 PM

“Everyone is on their own” means, the party is over, I would think.

Someone will go home.

AnninCA on February 17, 2011 at 7:44 PM

Facebook people, support Governor Scott Walker!

ladyingray on February 17, 2011 at 7:45 PM

And this is why I could never be a Democrat. When it comes down to it they act like a bunch of cowards and punks. Let’s assume the democrats are absolutely right about Walker’s plan. That still doesn’t make their despicable strategy valid. I hope Wisconsin’s voters take note and vote them out.

That said, does anyone have any links about Wisconsin’s budget problems, and how Walker’s plan resolves them? I only know vague things, like Wisconsin is on the brink of bankruptcy and the pension system is out of control. How out of control is the pension system? How well paid are public union employees compared to their private counterparts? And are there other areas in the budget that could be cut to make up for the shortfall?

Regardless, even if this is a political tactic on the part of Walker to destroy the unions, that doesn’t validate a walkout.

Keljeck on February 17, 2011 at 7:45 PM

Cancel all government cell phones, require all government vehicles be returned or they will be considered stolen, re-key every single office door, cancel all per diems, furlough every secretary and assistant to the missing pols, remove from their offices every single piece of government provided hardware or furniture down to the water coolers; hit these scumbags in every facet of their official lives and don’t stop.

Bishop on February 17, 2011 at 7:35 PM

Cut..jib…newsletter….

BigWyo on February 17, 2011 at 7:46 PM

Someone will go home.

AnninCA on February 17, 2011 at 7:44 PM

Of course they will go home but the toothpaste is out of the tube. How do you ever live down the fact that as an elected official you ran away to avoid an issue of the people you represent?

This incident has now become a major benchmark in Wisconsin politics.

sherry on February 17, 2011 at 7:47 PM

I posted this on the other page but didn’t name the group.
Flock of Seagulls-I RAN

annoyinglittletwerp on February 17, 2011 at 7:48 PM

Facebook people, support Governor Scott Walker!

ladyingray on February 17, 2011 at 7:45 PM

Thanks lady. Great idea.

sherry on February 17, 2011 at 7:48 PM

Facebook people, support Governor Scott Walker!

ladyingray on February 17, 2011 at 7:45 PM

I have!

annoyinglittletwerp on February 17, 2011 at 7:49 PM

FloatingRock on February 17, 2011 at 7:33 PM

Hounds would be good…but resourceful Tea Party types will work in a pinch.

H/T: Gateway Pundit

CPT. Charles on February 17, 2011 at 7:49 PM

Geochelone on February 17, 2011 at 7:15 PM

I’m not a big fan of Rockford Tea-I dropped them as a FB friend last year when they started writing approvingly of Alex Jones and his lunacy-but GOOD ON THEM!

annoyinglittletwerp on February 17, 2011 at 7:28 PM

Wow. I guess some of these TPers are on the lunatic fringe. That’s why we have to be careful to shun the nutters so they don’t wreck the whole movement.

Lunatic Fringe, Keewl tune tho’.

Geochelone on February 17, 2011 at 7:50 PM

The other state legislatures should be taking note and passing preemmptive laws that punish legislators that willfully leave the state to avoid their service to their constituents. The vote needs to be on the record as well.

txmomof6 on February 17, 2011 at 7:50 PM

sherry on February 17, 2011 at 7:47 PM

I agree. I presume they’ll just act like they were in solidarity with workers, yadda, yadda.

I would think that unless they are in a blue-blue district?

They just ended their job at the next election. This one has turned into a cartoon!

And there’s nothing worse, public opinion – wise.

AnninCA on February 17, 2011 at 7:50 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on February 17, 2011 at 7:48 PM

You know I support you!!. but that is one of the most “cheesey” song of all times!..;)

Dire Straits on February 17, 2011 at 7:52 PM

txmomof6 on February 17, 2011 at 7:50 PM

I was surprised to learn that WI had this covered, as did Texas. In WI, the speaker of the House said he’d never seen the rule invoked of sending the police after them.

But the more I thought about it, the more I decided that these types of tactics would have been used in the past probably. Wild, wild west days, etc. So it makes sense that they developed rules to handle it.

AnninCA on February 17, 2011 at 7:52 PM

OK, three-fifths, so it is 60%, which is 20

Vote on fiscal bills; quorum. SECTION 8. On the passage in either house of the legislature of any law which imposes, continues or renews a tax, or creates a debt or charge, or makes, continues or renews an appropriation of public or trust money, or releases, discharges or commutes a claim or demand of the state, the question shall be taken by yeas and nays, which shall be duly entered on the journal; and three−fifths of all the members elected to such house shall in all such cases be required to constitute
a quorum therein.

WoosterOh on February 17, 2011 at 7:53 PM

And there’s nothing worse, public opinion – wise.

AnninCA on February 17, 2011 at 7:50 PM

You would think but at the rate we are transforming, something will happen next week to knock it off the charts.

sherry on February 17, 2011 at 7:55 PM

AnninCA on February 17, 2011 at 7:52 PM
Yeah but concerted effort by a group of legislatures? That should have an additional penalty that makes pulling such a stunt really painful and not in the PR sense, but in the pocketbook or whereever it hurts most.

txmomof6 on February 17, 2011 at 7:55 PM

OK, three-fifths, so it is 60%, which is 20

Vote on fiscal bills; quorum. SECTION 8. On the passage in either house of the legislature of any law which imposes, continues or renews a tax, or creates a debt or charge, or makes, continues or renews an appropriation of public or trust money, or releases, discharges or commutes a claim or demand of the state, the question shall be taken by yeas and nays, which shall be duly entered on the journal; and three−fifths of all the members elected to such house shall in all such cases be required to constitute
a quorum therein.

Looks like the plan to strip collective bargaining from state employees such as the teacher’s union may be viable after all.

That’s a nice nuclear option to keep out there if the Dems don’t want to show up and vote in a budget that has minimal common-sense changes.

teke184 on February 17, 2011 at 7:56 PM

All they have to do is find just one of these dirt bags and drag them back to the capitol in a state police cruiser and it’s showtime. Then I gather we’ll see “civil disobedience” with people chaining themselves to doors and whatnot. The Republicans don’t need to be heavy handed, just move firmly and purposely in the business of governing. After all, they won, right Barry? The irony is absolutely delicious.

jnelchef on February 17, 2011 at 7:56 PM

I just read this in the Wisconsin Constitution, says Majority.

Organization of legislature; quorum; compulsory
attendance. SECTION 7. Each house shall be the judge of the
elections, returns and qualifications of its own members; and a majority of each shall constitute a quorum to do business, but a smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and may compel
the attendance of absent members in such manner and under
such penalties as each house may provide.

WoosterOh on February 17, 2011 at 7:43 PM

whbates on February 17, 2011 at 7:57 PM

Dire Straits on February 17, 2011 at 7:44 PM

Thanks, hon! I’m always reading the threads, just don’t have much time to write/comment. How have you been?

Bee on February 17, 2011 at 7:57 PM

BTW, aren’t there RICO statutes to cover this kind of organized law breaking?

jnelchef on February 17, 2011 at 7:57 PM

Weight of Glory on February 17, 2011 at 7:53 PM

Too funny. And driving away in a Prius of course.

sherry on February 17, 2011 at 7:57 PM

Oops, legislators not legislatures. Typing on autopilot!

txmomof6 on February 17, 2011 at 7:57 PM

You know I support you!!. but that is one of the most “cheesey” song of all times!..;)

Dire Straits on February 17, 2011 at 7:52 PM

Spoken like an old person.
*ducks*

annoyinglittletwerp on February 17, 2011 at 7:58 PM

Here is the Wisconsin Constitution

Just fun to read and see how we can fill these vacant seats.

One seemed interesting in impeaching, another was a recall.

WoosterOh on February 17, 2011 at 7:59 PM

To all of the American Servicemen & Servicewomen out there… if one of these Wisconsin State Senators was to run for the Presidency… and win…

Would you take orders from such a Commander-In-Chief?

Danny on February 17, 2011 at 7:29 PM

YES. I swore an oath before God to uphold the Constitution, not to any one President. They’ve all been my Commander in Chief, since 1983. This is America. The military does not pick the government; the government picks the military.

darkpixel on February 17, 2011 at 7:59 PM

Bee on February 17, 2011 at 7:57 PM

It is good for me..Waiting on a Green Room post from you!..Hope everything is going well for you and your family!..:)

Dire Straits on February 17, 2011 at 8:00 PM

Video of Tea Partiers confronting cowardly yella dems.

Weight of Glory on February 17, 2011 at 7:53 PM

And the run-away Donk says:

*run-away Donk voice on*
“I am not sure what my job is today”.

Well at least he was honest; as well as clueless. Bwaaaah.

Geochelone on February 17, 2011 at 8:00 PM

Too funny. And driving away in a Prius of course.

sherry on February 17, 2011 at 7:57 PM

Heeey-My former Navy officer uber-conservative bro-in law drives a Prius…’course he only bought it after some eejit head-on’d his Camaro.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 17, 2011 at 8:01 PM

I RAN?

I walked along the avenue,
I never thought I’d vote for a bill like you
Like YOU, A Bill Like YOU!
A school contract and a venue
The type of bill that hypnotizes my creeeewwwww
Hypnotized my creewwwwww

And I ran, I ran so far away
I just Ran, to Best Western all day
I couldn’t get away!

upinak on February 17, 2011 at 8:01 PM

Thanks for the video. Where was the bus? How did they get their cars there?

Inquiring mind wants to know. *hehe

AnninCA on February 17, 2011 at 8:02 PM

I RAN?

I walked along the avenue,
I never thought I’d vote for a bill like you
Like YOU, A Bill Like YOU!
A school contract and a venue
The type of bill that hypnotizes my creeeewwwww
Hypnotized my creewwwwww

And I ran, I ran so far away
I just Ran, to Best Western all day
I couldn’t get away!

upinak on February 17, 2011 at 8:01 PM

Heheheh!

annoyinglittletwerp on February 17, 2011 at 8:03 PM

Spoken like an old person.
*ducks*

annoyinglittletwerp on February 17, 2011 at 7:58 PM

LOL!..Gotta love the 80′s!..:):)

Dire Straits on February 17, 2011 at 8:05 PM

Weight of Glory on February 17, 2011 at 7:53 PM

Ha ha!

ladyingray on February 17, 2011 at 8:06 PM

Heeey-My former Navy officer uber-conservative bro-in law drives a Prius…’course he only bought it after some eejit head-on’d his Camaro.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 17, 2011 at 8:01 PM

I’m sorry, I shouldn’t have made such a generalization but most of the time when I see those cars they are sporting an Obama bumper sticker!

sherry on February 17, 2011 at 8:10 PM

Just curious-whatever happened to the NH Leg vote that would force the (Democrat) NH Attorney General to sign on to the multi-state O’bamaCare lawsuit?

Del Dolemonte on February 17, 2011 at 7:39 PM

There were two such bills. One passed the House last week (267-103). The other passed the House on Wednesday (267-92, included provision to forbid and not fund implementation of O’Care at the state level).

Bruce MacMahon on February 17, 2011 at 8:12 PM

Are any of these state senators carrying a state-issued, GPS-enabled cell phone? Doesn’t take much to find someone if you have access to the account on line and their GPS is turned on.

Bruce MacMahon on February 17, 2011 at 8:13 PM

It is good for me..Waiting on a Green Room post from you!..Hope everything is going well for you and your family!..:)

Dire Straits on February 17, 2011 at 8:00 PM

I appreciate that. Just burned out…then I moved, kids, renovating a house, etc. I’ll write again soon! :D

Bee on February 17, 2011 at 8:18 PM

Please check out the following link from Christie’s speech yesterday at the AEI:

http://www.aei.org/event/100369

Particularly from 30:00 – 32:30. Disagree with some of his other policies, but generally, fiscal insanity doesn’t appear to be one of them. These comments generally can be extrapolated to other public sector unions, too. He talks about the firefighter’s union (w/in the 1st 5 min) & a police officer who complained his raise wasn’t what it shouldn’t have been (w/in the last 5 min of his speech). [Regarding police in NJ, they get paid 32% salary, and 68% fringe benefits. Which includes a great retirement pension and a sizable health care benefits until the leave this earth.]

From NJ, according to Christie:

1) the state of NJ spends $17,600/student/yr;
2) Newark = $24,000/student/yr; and
3) Asbury Park = $28,000/student/yr.

Also states “104,000 students trapped in 200 failing schools across NJ”.

Earlier in his speech he also talks about how, in NJ, regarding teachers’ benefits, that they (teachers):

“pay NOTHING for their health insurance… NOTHING from the day they are hired until the day they die for full family medical coverage.”

He then says that this costs the state of NJ $24,000 per family (residing in NJ).

“If you don’t think that they are holding onto that tight… then you aren’t paying attention.”

Independents, libertarians, & republicans should be making dozens of these commercials and running them on the TV, radio, and web around the clock citing such examples of how we are in big financial trouble. Why are they not doing more of this????

This is exactly why Chrysler & GM went belly up. That is why Michigan has been a dying state. When employees are retiring at the age of 50, living until they’re in their 80s off of pensions and health care benefits that not many can even provide for their own families… then those of us who pay taxes who do not belong to a union need to consider if they can survive in that state. People are moving out of states like Michigan, New Jersey, Wisconsin, California, etc. leaving behind more union-supporters who simply say “raise taxes”.

As long as the former politicians of both parties keep lying to these folks that this can be sustained… we are all going to be working to support Union parasites rather than our own children. (Mid-1990s- mid-2000s Republicans never cared to sound the alarm until after Obama became President – see the behavior during the Congressional years prior to Pelosi’s Congress taking control in 2008.. I suppose though, better late than never.)

I am not breaking my back now, not going to forfeit my wife’s future, my children’s future, or my future, to pay for some Union bastard to retire before 75 and living more than comfortably, getting the best remaining health care, while health care for the rest of us is rationed…

Danny on February 17, 2011 at 8:18 PM

Are any of these state senators carrying a state-issued, GPS-enabled cell phone? Doesn’t take much to find someone if you have access to the account on line and their GPS is turned on.

Bruce MacMahon on February 17, 2011 at 8:13 PM

IPhones are great :)

upinak on February 17, 2011 at 8:19 PM

Facebook people, support Governor Scott Walker!

ladyingray on February 17, 2011 at 7:45 PM

Here’s the link to his facebook page!!

Please join his page and leave positive and supportive comments!!

Conservative Samizdat on February 17, 2011 at 8:21 PM

Bee on February 17, 2011 at 8:18 PM

I understand..Looks like you are very busy..I hope things are going well and you get to post in the Green Room soon!..:)

Dire Straits on February 17, 2011 at 8:23 PM

Danny on February 17, 2011 at 8:18 PM

Thank you, that’s a very helpful post! I can only imagine things are worse in Wisconsin, which has historically been a hotbed of progressivism.

Keljeck on February 17, 2011 at 8:28 PM

Declare their seats vacant, and have the Governor publicly announce replacements….

(legal or not, this might solve the problem…)

landlines on February 17, 2011 at 8:29 PM

like the vermin they are!!!

Sporty1946 on February 17, 2011 at 8:30 PM

Maybe the unions have jumped the shark? Most citizens will not be sympathetic, I think.

Dingbat63 on February 17, 2011 at 8:43 PM

How ironic! The Wisconsin dems. had but one place to flee – the People’s Republic of Felonois (once the great state formerly known as Illinois).

MayorDaley on February 17, 2011 at 8:47 PM

Does anyone know if taxpayer funds are being used to fund these cowards?

redfoxbluestate on February 17, 2011 at 8:47 PM

Madison is EGYPT II…….…..The American Sequel!

If this gets big box office (succeeds) look for a MADISON II sequel in DC!

PappyD61 on February 17, 2011 at 9:01 PM

To all of the American Servicemen & Servicewomen out there… if one of these Wisconsin State Senators was to run for the Presidency… and win…

Would you take orders from such a Commander-In-Chief?

Danny on February 17, 2011 at 7:29 PM

YES. I swore an oath before God to uphold the Constitution, not to any one President. They’ve all been my Commander in Chief, since 1983. This is America. The military does not pick the government; the government picks the military.

darkpixel on February 17, 2011 at 7:59 PM

==============================================

Thank you darkpixel.

Servicemen & servicewomen like “darkpixel” demonstrate the difference between honor & responsibility by such service to the civilian government & President.

This is a sharp contrast in comparison to elected officials who would run away from their “post” and abandon their constituents… regardless if they were minority or majority party.

A sharp contrast to teachers walking out of school, taking their students with them.

Perhaps doctors should try walking out of the hospital whenever they have a disagreement or gripe, and taking their patients with them, too. (I wonder how that would work out… Which is why there are no physician’s unions – not including some resident groups, that is.)

Danny on February 17, 2011 at 9:05 PM

Danny on February 17, 2011 at 9:05 PM

I don’t understand why the parents are allowing their kids to be used in this way. No way in hell would my son have been there – not that he’d have wanted to, I raised him ‘right’!

ladyingray on February 17, 2011 at 9:27 PM

The abdicating legislators are felons according to the following statutes. Charges should be filed. It’s owed to the People.

Wisconsin is a test run for obama; he is waiting to see if he can mow down the nation via his dem buddies and thieving unions. Madison shows very clearly how much the entire nation has been run by the union/dem machine. Madison is Thunderdome. obama is Tina Turner. Is the Wis Gov. Max?

H/T meci:

946.12
946.12 Misconduct in public office. Any public officer or public employee who does any of the following is guilty of a Class I felony:

946.12(1)
(1) Intentionally fails or refuses to perform a known mandatory, nondiscretionary, ministerial duty of the officer’s or employee’s office or employment within the time or in the manner required by law; or

946.12(2)
(2) In the officer’s or employee’s capacity as such officer or employee, does an act which the officer or employee knows is in excess of the officer’s or employee’s lawful authority or which the officer or employee knows the officer or employee is forbidden by law to do in the officer’s or employee’s official capacity; or

946.12(3)
(3) Whether by act of commission or omission, in the officer’s or employee’s capacity as such officer or employee exercises a discretionary power in a manner inconsistent with the duties of the officer’s or employee’s office or employment or the rights of others and with intent to obtain a dishonest advantage for the officer or employee or another; or

946.12(4)
(4) In the officer’s or employee’s capacity as such officer or employee, makes an entry in an account or record book or return, certificate, report or statement which in a material respect the officer or employee intentionally falsifies; or

946.12(5)
(5) Under color of the officer’s or employee’s office or employment, intentionally solicits or accepts for the performance of any service or duty anything of value which the officer or employee knows is greater or less than is fixed by law.

946.12 – ANNOT.
History: 1977 c. 173; 1993 a. 486; 2001 a. 109.

946.12 – ANNOT.
Sub. (5) prohibits misconduct in public office with constitutional specificity. Ryan v. State, 79 Wis. 2d 83, 255 N.W.2d 910 (1977).

946.12 – ANNOT.
Sub. (3) applies to a corrupt act under color of office and under de facto powers conferred by practice and usage. A person who is not a public officer may be charged as a party to the crime of official misconduct. State v. Tronca, 84 Wis. 2d 68, 267 N.W.2d 216 (1978).

946.12 – ANNOT.
An on-duty prison guard did not violate sub. (2) by fornicating with a prisoner in a cell. State v. Schmit, 115 Wis. 2d 657, 340 N.W.2d 752 (Ct. App. 1983).

946.12 – ANNOT.
Sub. (3) is not unconstitutionally vague. It does not fail to give notice that hiring and directing staff to work on political campaigns on state time with state resources is a violation. A legislator’s duty under this section may be determined by reference to a variety of sources including the Senate Policy Manual, applicable statutes, and legislative rules and guidelines. The Senate Policy Manual and senate guidelines restricted political campaigning with public resources. State v. Chvala, 2004 WI App 53, 271 Wis. 2d 115, 678 N.W.2d 880, 03-0442. Affirmed. 2005 WI 30, 279 Wis. 2d 216, 693 N.W.2d 747, 03-0442. See also State v. Jensen, 2004 WI App 89, 272 Wis. 2d 707, 684 N.W.2d 136, 03-0106. Affirmed. 2005 WI 31, 279 Wis. 2d 220, 694 N.W.2d 56, 03-0106.

946.12 – ANNOT.
Sub. (3) regulates conduct and not speech and is not subject to an overbreadth challenge under the 1st amendment. Legislators or their employees are not prohibited from doing or saying anything related to participation in political campaigns so long as they do not use state resources for that purpose. Legitimate legislative activity is not constrained by this statute. The line between “legislative activity” and “political activity” is sufficiently clear to prevent any confusion as to what conduct is prohibited under this statute. State v. Chvala, 2004 WI App 53, 271 Wis. 2d 115, 678 N.W.2d 880, 03-0442. Affirmed. 2005 WI 30, 279 Wis. 2d 216, 693 N.W.2d 747, 03-0442. See also State v. Jensen, 2004 WI App 89, 272 Wis. 2d 707, 684 N.W.2d 136, 03-0106. Affirmed. 2005 WI 31, 279 Wis. 2d 220, 694 N.W.2d 56, 03-0106.

946.12 – ANNOT.
Enforcement of sub. (3) against a legislator does not violate the separation of powers doctrine. Enforcement does not require the courts to enforce legislative rules governing the enactment of legislation. Rather, the courts are asked to enforce a penal statute that relates to the duties of a legislator. A court may interpret an internal legislative rule to determine criminal liability if, when applied to the facts of the specific case, the rule is not ambiguous. State v. Chvala, 2004 WI App 53, 271 Wis. 2d 115, 678 N.W.2d 880, 03-0442. Affirmed. 2005 WI 30, 279 Wis. 2d 216, 693 N.W.2d 747, 03-0442. See also State v. Jensen, 2004 WI App 89, 272 Wis. 2d 707, 684 N.W.2d 136, 03-0106. Affirmed. 2005 WI 31, 279 Wis. 2d 220, 694 N.W.2d 56, 03-0106.
Jail them. The law is clear and the courts have already ruled that: Enforcement of sub. (3) against a legislator does not violate the separation of powers doctrine.

These buffoons need to be worrying about funding their legal defense fund.

meci on February 17, 2011 at 6:51 PM

tigerlily on February 17, 2011 at 9:37 PM

Hmm, the dems in Texas did something similar a few years back. The Texas Rangers had to go after them. Not the baseball team.

carbon_footprint on February 17, 2011 at 7:43 PM

That was in 2003, during the last Congressional redistricting. They ran off across the border to Ardmore, Oklahama. Chickensh!ts, just like the Dems in Wisconsin.

Ward Cleaver on February 17, 2011 at 9:38 PM

ladyingray on February 17, 2011 at 9:27 PM

Dem parents are delighted to forego math and science nad get to the important stuff: protesting and littering up the state house

clnurnberg on February 17, 2011 at 9:42 PM

http://www.democrats.org/news/blog/fight_for_our_state_workers?source=DHL

DEMOCRATS “Change that matters.”

Yup. States changing from blue to very very dark red.

Danny on February 17, 2011 at 9:49 PM

Motley Crewe on the Run.

This lib behavior is outrageous and a disgrace to the USA.

But our great leader is no less the same.

He does indeed lead by example.

Sherman1864 on February 17, 2011 at 10:04 PM

Meanwhile, the teachers are striking against the public interest, trying to undo the decision of the voters through intimidation tactics.

They should all be fired and replaced with whatever retired military and police officers want to go teach in the public schools for the rest of the year. Test scores and discipline would soar.

J.E. Dyer on February 17, 2011 at 10:07 PM

upinak on February 17, 2011 at 8:01 PM

good tune :)

cmsinaz on February 17, 2011 at 11:30 PM

Danny on February 17, 2011 at 9:05 PM

I would add though that soldiers have choices to make too- plenty of my army friends left the military during Clinton’s term either because they chose to get out because they didn’t like what he was doing, were riffed out, or saw no hope of advancement because the points in our MOS were too high. They went home, went to school, and then went back in as officers mainly, many of them after 9/11.

journeyintothewhirlwind on February 17, 2011 at 11:50 PM

*cough*

Bee on February 17, 2011 at 7:41 PM

Thanks.
I keep forgetting about the Green Room.
Since HA kinda went to he!!, I don’t even visit there.

Badger40 on February 17, 2011 at 11:53 PM

I am publicly calling out Wisconsin Senate Minority Leader Mark Miller for the yellow-belly coward that he and the rest of Democratic ilk are!

Miller, you are a fraud, a coward, and a hypocrite! You refuse to do what any other real man would have done in a situation like this, namely stood your ground and voted for this bill regardless of which way you went, but at least you would had still stood there.

Instead, you chose to run, like a yellow, chicken coward! Like you think what you are doing here is going to make a difference? It will not! Instead, it makes you look foolish, immature, a cowardly!

And you darn well know if the situation had been reversed and it had been REPUBLICANS fleeing, you, your Democratic ilk, AND THE MEDIA would have been condemning their actions up one way and down the rest, you hypocrites!!!!

Miller,you and the rest of your Democrats up there in Madison actually make me sick to my stomach! You are cowards, each and every one of you, and none of you, NONE OF YOU, deserve to be in the position of authority you are in right now! You shame the very office you serve in!

People in Wisconsin deserve far better than the likes of you in office, you yellow-belly coward!

pilamaye on February 18, 2011 at 5:59 AM

You all seem to forget one thing. 2 seconds after it is passed some Judge will declare it unconstitutional and it will be tied up in court for 10 or 15 years.

BruceB on February 18, 2011 at 6:22 AM

Is there a certain point that the senators can be fired for not doing their job and a interim election for the vacated seats held? I say wait them out. If they make it through 6 months in hiding, then how can WI even know that they are still alive? At that point just declare that the seats have been vacated and the congress is smaller this session, so the Republicans now have a super majority because they have probably 98% of the seats that are not vacated.

The Dems tried this in Texas a few years back over redistricting. I am not a fan of gerrymandering districts, but considering it has been done by both sides ever since districts were first designed, I cannot see how it is a major issue.

jeffn21 on February 18, 2011 at 9:43 AM

I dont know much about Wisconsin But, if they legistlators have Gov provided cell phones I as the Gov would have them all turned off or suspended until they returned. I would have all state cars impounded ( of any one that ran away). And I would start working on just plain busywork for them to have to wade through. Can he call for a special election for each one of the ones that are in “DERELICTION of their duty”

ColdWarrior57 on February 18, 2011 at 12:03 PM

They probably learned this tactic from the Texas Eleven.

They ran off to Oklahoma to avoid voting.

nor on February 18, 2011 at 4:00 PM

Correction: the Texas Eleven fled to Albuquerque NM.

nor on February 18, 2011 at 4:02 PM

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