Report: U.S. to join UN Security Council statement rebuking Israel over settlements

posted at 7:32 pm on February 16, 2011 by Allahpundit

It’s not a total sellout of Israel — our agreement to the statement is contingent upon the Council dropping a formal anti-settlement resolution — but clearly, with Egypt precarious and other American pals suddenly wobbly, we’re going to see a lot more bet-hedging in the region by the White House going forward. We can’t afford to alienate our new “democratic allies,” after all.

Foreign policy will be a much bigger issue in 2012 than anyone thought, my friends.

The U.S. has informed Arab governments that it will support a U.N. Security Council statement reaffirming that the 15-nation body “does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlement activity,” a move aimed at avoiding the prospect of having to veto a stronger Palestinian resolution calling the settlements illegal…

Susan E. Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, outlined the new U.S. offer in a closed door meeting on Tuesday with the Arab Group, a bloc of Arab countries from North Africa and the Middle East. In exchange for scuttling the Palestinian resolution, the United States would support the council statement, consider supporting a U.N. Security Council visit to the Middle East, the first since 1979, and commit to supporting strong language criticizing Israel’s settlement policies in a future statement by the Middle East Quartet.

The U.S.-backed draft statement — which was first reported by Al Hurra — was obtained by Turtle Bay. In it, the Security Council “expresses its strong opposition to any unilateral actions by any party, which cannot prejudge the outcome of negotiations and will not be recognized by the international community, and reaffirms, that it does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlement activity, which is a serious obstacle to the peace process.” The statement also condemns “all forms of violence, including rocket fire from Gaza, and stresses the need for calm and security for both peoples.”

This’ll be spun as something they planned to do all along, but there’s no way Obama’s going to risk upsetting fragile relations with Egypt right now knowing that the Muslim Brotherhood and other anti-American factions are looking for a pretext to tilt the country (further) against us at a decisive moment. So here’s his version of a compromise, siding with the Arab bloc against the settlements so long as we don’t actually have to do anything about it, like cast a vote. The punchline: Our offer hasn’t been agreed to yet, so we may still find ourselves in a worst-of-both-worlds scenario where Israelis are alienated by our willingness to support the statement while Egyptians and Arabs are alienated by our eventual veto of the resolution. Wonderful.

Mind you, this comes on a day when (a) Egypt’s youth movement is calling for a halt to gas shipments to Israel, (b) Jordan’s(!) justice minister is describing Israel as “an enemy and a terrorist state,” and (c) Iran is sending warships through the Suez Canal and into the Mediterranean to flaunt its new post-Mubarak leverage in the region. (Israel’s foreign minister calls it “something that has not happened in many years.”) In fact, Jay Carney was specifically asked about the Iranian ships at today’s presser and, true to White House form, he punted. This is the new reality in the region — win/win provocations where the U.S. is forced to pander to popular Arab sentiment at a moment of retrenchment and democratization or stick with Israel and risk the consequences of shattered alliances. What could go wrong?

Anthony Weiner has already issued a statement slamming Obama for having “opened the door to more and more anti-Israeli efforts coming to the floor of the U.N.” While you mull, via the Blaze, here’s a blast from the past on the coming age of glorious liberal reform in Egypt.

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Israel’s settlements in the West Bank have doubled in size and scope since 1990. You are the one who is delusional… not me.

lexhamfox on February 17, 2011 at 6:13 AM

Really? You think Israel has doubled the land it is settled on in the West Bank since 1990? I’m very sorry but you are incorrect. Populations within existing towns may have grown, but that is nothing remotely like what you are portraying. The vast majority of Israeli so called settlements are girding / around the city of Jerusalem, and this is where populations have grown as well. I must apologize, but I live here and you simply do not. Have you been to these areas of Jerusalem? They are part and parcel of the land of Israel and part of the city.

Like I said, Israelis save for a fringe minority simply do not agree with your views. People who expected us to sit bottled up in our capital for 45 years now, in a time freeze, not having children, not growing as is normal for every people on earth while we wait around for the Palestinians to either destroy us, or decide they wish to live in peace with us in OUR country are the delusional ones.

You are imagining these far flung out settlements, and all these new towns, you are mistaken. The settlement blocks, which I might add in every peace deal envisioned on earth are slated to stay with Israel (everyone knows this including the Palestinians)are almost all within the current security fence, which very much follows the contours of the 67 lines save for one Israeli town known as Ariel <- which we are not giving to the Palestinians either.

The facts remain that no Arabs are being kicked out of their towns, nor have they been ever, and our populations grow within existing boundaries on our land. You have been suckered into a non existent palestinian narrative just like Arab loving President Obama who thinks the Palestinians are black Americans in the civil rights movement. The whole thing is laughable.

We put up a condominium in our capital and the whole world loses its mind. Meanwhile the Palestinians strap bombs to their children and liberals have a collective orgasm. Sorry, here in Israel we ain't buying it. Jerusalem is the capital of the State of Israel, of the Jewish people. Anyone who does't like it can try and take it from us.. If they dare.

saus on February 17, 2011 at 8:55 AM

Aslans Girl on February 17, 2011 at 8:13 AM

they’re still around..the ‘kingdom now’ people…they think we’ll christianize the world, then, and only then, can Jesus return….like He has to wait for us before He has permission to return..right.

they forget He’s not a tame lion!! ;-)

right4life on February 17, 2011 at 8:57 AM

The facts remain that no Arabs are being kicked out of their towns, nor have they been ever, and our populations grow within existing boundaries on our land. You have been suckered into a non existent palestinian narrative just like Arab loving President Obama who thinks the Palestinians are black Americans in the civil rights movement. The whole thing is laughable.

saus on February 17, 2011 at 8:55 AM

you should, you can’t live in peace with them…and they refuse to let any jews live with them as we have seen in gaza.

right4life on February 17, 2011 at 9:01 AM

they forget He’s not a tame lion!! ;-)

right4life on February 17, 2011 at 8:57 AM

Thank you for making me smile! One of my favorite quotes :)

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on February 17, 2011 at 9:14 AM

Many have commented that this will get very ugly. Agreed. The one glimmer of a silver lining that I can see is that for decades Israel has been hamstrung in its response to arab aggression due to a concern for world opinion and largely so as not to antagonize the U.S. administration. Well Israel knows that it will never win over world opinion and it now knows that for the first time in its history it faces an explicitly hostile American president. It has nothing to lose by unleashing all the fury it can muster. This is an existential moment for Israel. This is not scuds flying into school buildings. This is being surrounded, once again, by hostile armies itching to invade and drive the Jews into the sea, at a time when no one will come to Israel’s aid. Israel’s response to any aggression cannot and must not be restrained. She must fight like her existence — the existence of the Jewish people — depends on it (because it does). Those that would destroy Israel wish a return to their perceived medieval glory. They want medieval, Israel should go medieval on them.

ncc770 on February 17, 2011 at 9:26 AM

saus on February 17, 2011 at 8:55 AM

Well stated and that you for providing the information that most people can’t seem to get from the tainted MSM in this country.

belad on February 17, 2011 at 9:27 AM

right4life on February 17, 2011 at 8:57 AM

Well, maybe he is waiting for the world to go christian to lessen the odds of him getting crucified again?

Daemonocracy on February 17, 2011 at 9:27 AM

Oops!..

Well stated and that thank you for providing the information that most people can’t seem to get from the tainted MSM in this country.

Sorry for that.

belad on February 17, 2011 at 9:29 AM

The punchline: Our offer hasn’t been agreed to yet, so we may still find ourselves in a worst-of-both-worlds scenario where Israelis are alienated by our willingness to support the statement while Egyptians and Arabs are alienated by our eventual veto of the resolution. Wonderful.

Being nutless makes fence straddling more comfortable.

maverick muse on February 17, 2011 at 9:32 AM

Well, maybe he is waiting for the world to go christian to lessen the odds of him getting crucified again?

Daemonocracy on February 17, 2011 at 9:27 AM

when He returns, that will be the last thing on anyone’s mind…

right4life on February 17, 2011 at 9:33 AM

I would like for the US to elect a president who denounces a two state solution. That’s a pipe dream. Israel tries to placate everyone and just ends up trading land for a never coming peace. The Arabs only want one thing: for every Jew to be driven into the Mediterranean.

Also, I’ve stated this many times: there is no such thing as a Palestinian. There has never been a country of Palestine. These are simply Arabs that live in an area that under the Ottoman Empire was known collectively as Palestine. I’ve often wondered why the surrounding Arab nations don’t just assimilate these people. Maybe because no one wants them and they just happen to hate the Jews a little more. So in my view there is no such animal as a Palestinian.

I think Israel will be forced in short order to defend itself with the results being similar to 1967. This time I’d force all Arabs out of Israel unless they commit to living as loyal Israeli citizens. Like that would ever happen. Support for Israel is crucial, something the Jihadi Lover in the White House is trying to get away from. He’s a Jew hater, unless they work for him….

adamsmith on February 17, 2011 at 9:36 AM

they’re still around..the ‘kingdom now’ people…they think we’ll christianize the world, then, and only then, can Jesus return……

right4life on February 17, 2011 at 8:57 AM

How do they know that Jesus will return? After all, which christian denomination is the right one? Don’t they all profess that if you don’t believe what they believe, that you are going to hell? So, when there is only one denomination left and Jesus comes again what happens if he says,”You’re not the Christians I’m looking for!”?

Now for the bonus points, Is hell endothermic or exothermic?

belad on February 17, 2011 at 9:40 AM

Mind you, this comes on a day when Jordan’s(!) justice minister is describing Israel as “an enemy and a terrorist state,”

Jordan is angry that Israel is shipping its undesirable Philistine population into Jordanian territory as Zionist expansionism permeates what territory had been off limits for new Israeli colonization.

The Palestinians (Philistines in Arabic) coming from Israel are fomenting terror in Jordan. And the Israeli government is responsible for the outcome of its policies.

Jordanian disgust with the illegal immigration of troubling Palestinians into Jordan is reflected in the Jordanian unpopularity of their Queen of Palestinian descent from Lebanon.

Israel was crafted from Jordanian territory by the British in order to avoid war reparations to the Jewish people victimized within Europe itself. What’s done is done. And Israel cannot legitimately export its indigenous Palestinian population out of their own homeland and into what remains the Kingdom of Jordan.

It’s a can of worms no matter how it opens.

maverick muse on February 17, 2011 at 9:42 AM

(In Colombo’s voice…) And another thing….Jimmy Carter should be forced to be a janitor at Treblinka for the rest of his life. Maybe then he would see what the Jews have been through. Knowing Carter, that wouldn’t work either. He’s a anti-semitic piece of garbage who probably agrees with everything Hitler ever said. Scumbag…………

adamsmith on February 17, 2011 at 9:42 AM

How do they know that Jesus will return? After all, which christian denomination is the right one?

all christians believe Jesus will return. its one of the foundations of the faith….see the apostles creed.

Now for the bonus points, Is hell endothermic or exothermic?

belad on February 17, 2011 at 9:40 AM

pray you never find out.

right4life on February 17, 2011 at 9:43 AM

belad, do your own homework beginning with the question, “How do Christians know that Jesus will return?”

maverick muse on February 17, 2011 at 9:47 AM

How do they know that Jesus will return?

Because he said he would.

After all, which christian denomination is the right one?

All of them for the elect who frequent them. There is only one Christian Church and it is composed of people from many denominations.

Don’t they all profess that if you don’t believe what they believe, that you are going to hell?

No they ALL don’t.

So, when there is only one denomination left and Jesus comes again what happens if he says,”You’re not the Christians I’m looking for!”?

The elect from all denominations will be raptured at the parousia. The non-elect, whatever denomination, will hear those horrifying last words, “I never knew you”.

tommyboy on February 17, 2011 at 9:47 AM

a move aimed at avoiding the prospect of having to veto a stronger Palestinian resolution calling the settlements illegal…

So Obama is more concerned about potential friends than actual allies? Sooner of later Israel is going to realize that as long as Obama is POTUS they are pretty much on their own. Wonder how that will afect their sense of cooperation with the US? Seems like they’re going to less inclined to give the US any heads up on intell or their plans and just deny it if they do anything.

katiejane on February 17, 2011 at 9:48 AM

maverick muse on February 17, 2011 at 9:42 AM

Every claim in your comment is a lie.

Shy Guy on February 17, 2011 at 9:51 AM

Daemonocracy’s 9:27 been there, done that.
Luke 23: 39
One of the criminals who were hanged there was hurling abuse at Him, saying, “Are You not the Christ? Save Yourself and us!”
Nonbelievers certainly have their rights to expect to be left to themselves.
Next round, every knee shall bend and every head bow [Paul 2nd Epistle to Phillipians verses 10-11].

maverick muse on February 17, 2011 at 10:00 AM

Every claim in your comment is a lie.

Shy Guy on February 17, 2011 at 9:51 AM

Your ignorance betrays bigotry on your own part, calling the documented record a lie.

Nothing is black and white in politics. India Eastern philosophy recognizes the various gradations of gray and even the absences of either black or white within themselves.

In the grand scale of manifestations of power, perhaps it matters what you think, or what I think.

But your kneejerk response attacking me is what I call wrong; as if I attacked Israel by reflecting what was reported this past week from Jordan via articles linked at Drudge. You need to read more sources before claiming that YOUR selected tunnel vision is all that there is to recognize at play in the world.

maverick muse on February 17, 2011 at 10:07 AM

Once upon a time, Carl in Jerusalem posted here regularly at HotAir and was a great communicator. I appreciated his responses to my comments and questions.

That was then. This is now. And those who made intelligent conversation from scholarly research have mostly gone from HotAir long ago.

Anyone who relies on a single source for information is setting themselves up to be used and to eventually reach an ultimate disillusionment. Maturing requires the individual to recognize the realities of others. That is not to say one adopts the realities of another as if aborting one’s own. But in order to function most effectively, to know what others think matters.

maverick muse on February 17, 2011 at 10:16 AM

Cage match between Jeebus and the 12 Ima’am.

Bishop on February 17, 2011 at 10:20 AM

Cage match between Jeebus and the 12 Ima’am.
Bishop on February 17, 2011 at 10:20 AM

And Revelation 19 tells who is still standing at the end of that match.

tommyboy on February 17, 2011 at 10:22 AM

maverick muse on February 17, 2011 at 10:07 AM

Every claim in your comment is a lie.

Repeat and rinse.

Shy Guy on February 17, 2011 at 10:23 AM

belad, do your own homework beginning with the question, “How do Christians know that Jesus will return?”

maverick muse on February 17, 2011 at 9:47 AM

This is not a flame, but you should read that the word “belief” in a creed and “faith” in “things unseen” form the basis of any Christian argument/apology.

You can believe in and have faith in anything you desire. I, or anyone, also have the same right to not believe or have faith. The only true test comes when our existence in this world ends(death), then we will find out what exists after death.

belad on February 17, 2011 at 10:49 AM

Jordan is angry that Israel is shipping its undesirable Philistine population into Jordanian territory as Zionist expansionism permeates what territory had been off limits for new Israeli colonization.

That’s a lie. Israel has not ‘shipped’ any ‘Palestinians’ anywhere. It also hasn’t expanded the territory under its control since 1967, when it won territory from Jordan, Egypt and Syria in a defensive war.

The Palestinians (Philistines in Arabic) coming from Israel are fomenting terror in Jordan. And the Israeli government is responsible for the outcome of its policies.

There is no connection between the ‘Palestinians’ – a fictitious people invented by the Arabs – and the biblical Philistines. Philistines is the English translation of the Hebrew Plishtim. ‘Palestine’ was a name given to the land of Israel after the Romans destroyed the Second Temple in about 70 CE in a bid to make the Jews believe that they would never return. Think Constantinople. Same idea.

Jordanian disgust with the illegal immigration of troubling Palestinians into Jordan is reflected in the Jordanian unpopularity of their Queen of Palestinian descent from Lebanon.

That’s also a lie. I don’t know to whom you are referring as ‘Jordanians.’ Approximately 70% of Jordan’s population is ‘Palestinian.’ The family of King Abdullah (known as the ‘Hashemites’) is transplanted from the Gulf region. It was ‘given’ the ‘Kingdom’ of Jordan (then known as Trans-Jordan) as a consolation prize by the British after losing custodianship over the Islamic holy places in Mecca and Medina to their cousins the al-Faisals (the Saudi royal family). Read the whole thing.

Israel was crafted from Jordanian territory by the British in order to avoid war reparations to the Jewish people victimized within Europe itself.

No. The fiefdom of Jordan was crafted from Mandatory Palestine as a sop to the Hashemites for losing guardianship over Mecca and Medina.

Jordan is governed by the royal family and its Bedouin elite. Here’s how it happened.

The Emirate of Transjordan was an autonomous political division of the British Mandate of Palestine, created as an administrative entity in April 1921 before the Mandate came into effect. It was geographically equivalent to today’s Kingdom of Jordan, and remained under the nominal auspices of the League of Nations, until its independence in 1946.

Initially, both the territory to the East and the West of the Jordan river were the British Mandate of Palestine. “Transjordan” was a word coined as a reference to the part of Palestine “across the Jordan”, i.e. on the far (eastern) side of the Jordan River. On the western side of the Jordan River was the remaining 21% of the Palestine Mandate, Palestine which contained many places of historical and religious significance to Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.

In other words, ‘Jordan’ is 79% of the Palestine Mandate. Not only is it ‘Palestine’ – it is the vast majority of the area covered by the 1917 Balfour Declaration.

From the same post linked above. I suggest that you read it.

What’s done is done. And Israel cannot legitimately export its indigenous Palestinian population out of their own homeland and into what remains the Kingdom of Jordan.

Complete and utter nonsense. I suggest you get your facts straight before you post things on a public forum.

/Back to earning a living and running my own blog. Say hi to Ed and Allah for me.

Carl in Jerusalem on February 17, 2011 at 11:00 AM

Palestine’ was a name given to the land of Israel after the Romans destroyed the Second Temple in about 70 CE in a bid to make the Jews believe that they would never return.
Carl in Jerusalem on February 17, 2011 at 11:00 AM

Good post except for this one point. The Roman emperor Hadrian coined the name “Palestine” to refer to the areas previously referred to by Rome as “Isreal” and “Judea” after the 135 AD Jewish “Bar-Kochba” rebellion. Hadrian did this purposefully as a gesture of contempt in that “Palestine” was the Latinized form of “Philistines”, whom Hadrian knew to be the historic, hated, enemy of Israel.

tommyboy on February 17, 2011 at 11:18 AM

Sha’a'lu Shalom Yerushalayim”

– Aslan’s Girl

I miss hearing Zola Levitt say that.

So the Jews perish. OK. Got that. Thanks.
–Lexhamfox

Lexhamfox, read John 3:14-18 to see what Jesus told Nicodemus, a Jewish leader. He explained to Nicodemus that He was destined to fulfill the ‘type’ of the bronze serpent raised by Moses in the wilderness (Numbers 1:4-9). When God sent fiery serpents to bite the disobedient Hebrews, He told Moses to raise a bronze serpent on a pole, so that whoever looked at it in faith would be saved from the fatal poison.

“And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up; that whosoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life.”

Through the centuries, “Jews for Jesus” have included composer Felix Mendelssohn, who wrote the music to “Hark, the Herald Angels Sing”; and British prime minister Benjamin Disraeli. You can read about more of them, and why they put their faith in Him, at http://www.jewsforjesus.org.

KyMouse on February 17, 2011 at 2:18 PM

My commendatons to Carl in Jerusalem. Thank you!!! The Jew haters really dont care about actual facts, but you get a lot of credit in my book for at least trying

georgealbert on February 17, 2011 at 2:32 PM

Daemonocracy on February 17, 2011 at 9:27 AM

Hardly. The next time He comes, He comes as a Lion not a Lamb: He’s coming “with power and great glory”.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on February 17, 2011 at 5:03 PM

maverick muse on February 17, 2011 at 9:42 AM

Today’s Palestininans are NOT descended from the ancient Phillistines. The Palis are made up mostly of Jordanians. Decades ago, many tried to get back to Jordan, only Jordan said they weren’t wanted there. Remember, too, that many tred to leave the moment Israel was born, happy to go to Jordan, but the pan-Arab countres told them that they were going to defeat Israel immediately so they didn’t have to leave. God had other plans however and when the Palis tried later to return, they were turned away.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on February 17, 2011 at 5:08 PM

Carl in Jerusalem on February 17, 2011 at 11:00 AM

Brilliant smackdown, Carl! Thanks for stopping by!

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on February 17, 2011 at 5:12 PM

KyMouse on February 17, 2011 at 2:18 PM

So nice to “meet” you! I began learning from Zola since I was 12 and a newly born-again Christian.

To any posters here who have no idea about Israeli history (I’m looking at you maverick muse), I recommend From Time Immemorial by Joan Peters:

http://www.amazon.com/Time-Immemorial-Arab-Jewish-Conflict-Palestine/dp/0963624202/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1297981058&sr=1-1

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on February 17, 2011 at 5:18 PM

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