Liberal Egyptian leader Ayman Nour: “In practice, the Camp David accords have come to an end”

posted at 7:29 pm on February 15, 2011 by Allahpundit

My sense from Twitter is that most people think the political story of the day in Egypt is the Muslim Brotherhood forming its own party. Not so. That was a fait accompli the moment the army sent Mubarak packing, and in any case, the Brotherhood has always been well organized. It’ll be news when other groups get their act together and start forming parties. Which, given the degree of disarray among the opposition, could be awhile.

No, the news of the day is none other than Ayman Nour telling a Lebanese TV station that it’s time to revisit the treaty with Israel. Nour isn’t some random talking head; he’s been in and out of prison for years for daring to demand liberal reforms from Mubarak’s regime, and actually went so far as to run against Mubarak for president in the rigged election of 2005. Not only is he a cause celebre in the west, he’s sufficiently prominent that Bush name-checked him in his speech on democracy in Prague back in 2007. He is, in other words, arguably the Egyptian dissident, a guy whom the U.S. theoretically might like to see elected president because his political sensibilities are so western.

And yet, even this guy is hint-hint-hinting that it’s time to tear up the Camp David accords. In fact, he’s pushing the same mechanism of repeal as a spokesman for the Muslim Brotherhood did last week — a popular referendum, in which Egypt’s Israel-hating public (favorable rating: 3/92) will torpedo the treaty in the name of popular sovereignty. The end of Camp David is likely a fait accompli no matter what democratic process Egypt ends up settling on, but at least if you push the issue in parliament you’ll get some deliberation among the members, some pressure from the U.S., etc. Doing it at the grassroots level is practically guaranteed to mean the end of the treaty, which in turn probably means the end of Jordan’s treaty with Israel, which means we’re back to the 70s. Wonderful.

In other good news, the head of the committee to draft Egypt’s new constitution is a judge affiliated with an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood. Even more wonderful. I sure hope Obama wises up on entitlement reform and makes a deal with the GOP soon, because given the way things are going in Egypt, he might not have much time over the next two years for domestic priorities. Exit question: What does the upheaval in the region do to Israel’s timetable for Iran’s nuclear program? I was thinking today that they might feel compelled to strike soon, before Egypt has gotten its bearings and formally repudiated Camp David. If they’re going to hit Iran, best to do it shortly and then retrench for the new reality of having enemies on all its borders (again). But now I’m thinking maybe they’ll slow down on Iran lest an attack give the Brotherhood an excuse to agitate in Egypt for repealing the treaty. The Brothers will do that anyway, of course, but it’s at least possible that the treaty will survive if Israel is quiet for the foreseeable future. Or is it? Click the image to watch.


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Exit question: What does the upheaval in the region do to Israel’s timetable for Iran’s nuclear program?

Hey, Machmed? do you got that Norton Antivirus working on that Stuxnet yet?

ted c on February 15, 2011 at 7:33 PM

Why am I not suprised!..

Dire Straits on February 15, 2011 at 7:33 PM

And yet, even this guy is hint-hint-hinting that it’s time to tear up the Camp David accords. In fact, he’s pushing the same mechanism of repeal as a spokesman for the Muslim Brotherhood did last week — a popular referendum, in which Egypt’s Israel-hating public (favorable rating: 3/92) will torpedo the treaty in the name of popular sovereignty. The end of Camp David is likely a fait accompli no matter what democratic process Egypt ends up settling on, but at least if you push the issue in parliament you’ll get some deliberation among the members, some pressure from the U.S., etc. Doing it at the grassroots level is practically guaranteed to mean the end of the treaty, which in turn probably means the end of Jordan’s treaty with Israel, which means we’re back to the 70s. Wonderful.

So because one Egyptian leader says the treaty is over….we are supposed to call it quits with the treaty. Uh, no thank you.

terryannonline on February 15, 2011 at 7:34 PM

Like night following day. And they didn’t waste any time.

rrpjr on February 15, 2011 at 7:34 PM

Will PBHO claim credit for this, or are we back to “I’m not responsible for what happens in other nations.”

Bishop on February 15, 2011 at 7:36 PM

But now I’m thinking maybe they’ll slow down on Iran lest an attack given the Brotherhood an excuse to agitate in Egypt for repealing the treaty.

the algebra just got considerably tougher for Israel. Despite Egypt, an Iran strike requires an awfully long set of legs (ie, strike aircraft range/refuel/rearm) to accomplish a tough mission. If the US did it, it would be a B2 mission from the US onto Diego Garcia or return with multiple A/C in support from the Gulf, Europe, Indian Ocean most likely. I don’t fly, so this is just speculation. Think the opening strikes in Desert Storm–they were massive, sustained and repeatable. Israel has strike A/C that can merely plink from that range.

ted c on February 15, 2011 at 7:37 PM

Tread carefully, Egyptians. The current occupant of the White House is a bowing, appeasing fool, but the one who replaces him in 2013 will not be.

AZCoyote on February 15, 2011 at 7:37 PM

I sure hope Obama wises up on entitlement reform and makes a deal with the GOP soon, because given the way things are going in Egypt, he might not have much time over the next two years for domestic priorities

Why do you think he is stalling for time on the budget? He wants it buried.

pedestrian on February 15, 2011 at 7:38 PM

I’m sure Bambi will be pleased to see the Camp David Accord come to an end.

GrannyDee on February 15, 2011 at 7:39 PM

But…but…but…Obama performed a miracle and Egypt is peaceful and just dandy…

right2bright on February 15, 2011 at 7:40 PM

The forecast for Christ Matthews’ leg has been upgraded to tremors with a chance of urine.

Chuck Schick on February 15, 2011 at 7:40 PM

So because one Egyptian leader says the treaty is over….we are supposed to call it quits with the treaty. Uh, no thank you.

terryannonline on February 15, 2011 at 7:34 PM

Better prepare for it going away.

the_nile on February 15, 2011 at 7:41 PM

Survive?

Yeah….Hamas will stage a play in the streets to allow the Egyptians to condemn the Israeli response and we are back to square one.

Quik, send Carter a note.

Limerick on February 15, 2011 at 7:42 PM

But…but…but…Obama performed a miracle and Egypt is peaceful and just dandy…

right2bright on February 15, 2011 at 7:40 PM

The seculars are moderating…

the_nile on February 15, 2011 at 7:42 PM

The Brothers will do that anyway, of course, but it’s at least possible that the treaty will survive if Israel is quiet for the foreseeable future. Or is it?

BS. Israel is guilty for merely existing. They are damned if they strike, and damned if they don’t–either way, they’re damned. Even if Al Jazeera filmed fullup rockets being preflighted with “Tel Aviv” or “Jerusalem” written on them, Israel would still be at fault in every permutation.

ted c on February 15, 2011 at 7:42 PM

Are we sure this guy isn’t just saying what most Egyptians want to hear in order to enhance his chances of election should the dictatorship actually give way to democracy?

Browncoatone on February 15, 2011 at 7:43 PM

For those in Ed’s neck of the woods, now paultard, former conservative leaning talk host Jason Lewis was just on the radio seeing how big a useful idiot for the Muslim Brotherhood he can be.

jp on February 15, 2011 at 7:43 PM

HopenChange!

El_Terrible on February 15, 2011 at 7:44 PM

The dirty little secret is, Egypt doesn’t need the Muslim Brotherhood to be in charge, to act just like the Muslim Brotherhood. It’ll come naturally.

RBMN on February 15, 2011 at 7:44 PM

Are we sure this guy isn’t just saying what most Egyptians want to hear in order to enhance his chances of election should the dictatorship actually give way to democracy?

Browncoatone on February 15, 2011 at 7:43 PM

The “he’s a centrist ,no really” illusion?

the_nile on February 15, 2011 at 7:45 PM

Better prepare for it going away.

the_nile on February 15, 2011 at 7:41 PM

Well see I guess.

terryannonline on February 15, 2011 at 7:45 PM

Are we sure this guy isn’t just saying what most Egyptians want to hear in order to enhance his chances of election should the dictatorship actually give way to democracy?

Browncoatone on February 15, 2011 at 7:43 PM

The “he’s a centrist ,no really” illusion?

the_nile on February 15, 2011 at 7:45 PM

Isn’t that what every would-be president does before an election?

Browncoatone on February 15, 2011 at 7:48 PM

So because one Egyptian leader says the treaty is over….we are supposed to call it quits with the treaty. Uh, no thank you.

terryannonline on February 15, 2011 at 7:34 PM

Ignorance is blissful.

Schadenfreude on February 15, 2011 at 7:48 PM

In some ways, the treaty was already dead under Mubarak, and the optimistic view is that, whatever these a@@holes imply, they’re not going back to war with Israel. The army is probably not exactly champing at the bit to do that.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on February 15, 2011 at 7:49 PM

First:

In fact, he’s pushing the same mechanism of repeal as a spokesman for the Muslim Brotherhood did last week — a popular referendum, in which Egypt’s Israel-hating public (favorable rating: 3/92) will torpedo the treaty in the name of popular sovereignty.

Pushing whom? Seems to me the Egyptian Military Council will decide on any referendums. If they don’t want one, there won’t be one.

Second:

This is still all bad. If Obama thought three weeks was too long to spend dealing with a Mid-East problem, he certainly isn’t prepared for what’s to come.

But that’s just my opinion.

SlaveDog on February 15, 2011 at 7:50 PM

And so,it begins!!

canopfor on February 15, 2011 at 7:50 PM

The Hopey/Changey Cairo Speech of Community Organizational
Rhetric!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on February 15, 2011 at 7:54 PM

It was reported today that some of the Egyptian protesters wearing the Palestinian Kaif met with the military leaders. My prayers are with the nation of Israel.

SC.Charlie on February 15, 2011 at 7:56 PM

Heard a week ago,on Al Jazeera,about what a Moderate Muslim is,

one that agrees with,the Egyptian Peace Agreement with Israel,and Isreal’s right to exist!!
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Speaks for itself,in a hostile Jihady environment!!!

canopfor on February 15, 2011 at 7:58 PM

ya know the funny thing is that the accords are there to protect Egypt and Jordon, not the other way around…

equanimous on February 15, 2011 at 8:01 PM

It was reported today that some of the Egyptian protesters wearing the Palestinian Kaif met with the military leaders. My prayers are with the nation of Israel.

SC.Charlie on February 15, 2011 at 7:56 PM

SC.Charlie:Agreed!
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Israeli army ‘ready for all eventualities’: PM
Feb 14 2011
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AFP – The Israeli military is “ready for all eventualities” as the Arab and Muslim world undergoes “an earthquake,” Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Monday just days after Egypt’s regime collapsed.

“An earthquake is shaking the whole Arab world and a large part of the Muslim world and we don’t yet know how these things will turn out,” the premier said at a swearing-in ceremony for new army chief Major General Benny Gantz.

“We are ready for all eventualities because we know that the foundation of our existence, and our capacity to convince our neighbours to live in peace with us, is based on the Israeli army,” he said during a ceremony at his Jerusalem office.
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http://www.france24.com/en/20110214-israeli-army-ready-all-eventualities-pm

canopfor on February 15, 2011 at 8:03 PM

jp on February 15, 2011 at 7:43 PM

Yeah, he was on about the MB last week. Pretty much sez they’re harmless…nothing to see here folks.

I love hearing Lewis when he’s talking about taxes and finance…but anything else he’s got alot of “WTF” moments.

BigWyo on February 15, 2011 at 8:03 PM

Egypt: The Camp David accords are over.
Israel: Fine: We’ll expect your evacuation of the Sinai Peninsula to be completed by the end of this week.
U.S.: Fine: You can return the $18 billion of foreign aid for the past ten years.

aunursa on February 15, 2011 at 8:04 PM

Day 1… ahem… “This will end badly.”

-mankai

I’m stickin’ with it.

mankai on February 15, 2011 at 8:04 PM

wait a second, the msm is saying all is well.

rob verdi on February 15, 2011 at 8:06 PM

Exit question: What does the upheaval in the region do to Israel’s timetable for Iran’s nuclear program?

Obama’s response to the riots in Egypt and Iran has severed the last tenuous connection between Israel’s self-defense and Obama’s influence.

As for when the strikes will begin? Nobody outside of Israel is going to know that until after it happens — and that includes the White House.

logis on February 15, 2011 at 8:09 PM

Speaking of the Muslim Brotherhood!
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What the Muslim Brothers Want
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We embrace democracy not as a foreign concept that must be reconciled with tradition,

(but as a set of principles and objectives that are inherently compatible with and reinforce Islamic tenets.)
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http://www.ikhwanweb.com/article.php?id=28004

canopfor on February 15, 2011 at 8:11 PM

Accords over?

So does Egypt have to give the Sinai back to Israel?

It is getting expensive for Muslims to eat. They have a very large surplus of young males, poorly employed. They need a distraction from their own intractable problems. Israel is a bone in the throat of Islam. There is a wealth of vengeance to be won in destroying Israel. Sound like a plan?

BL@KBIRD on February 15, 2011 at 8:12 PM

Yawwwwwwn……..Wake me when this whole Caliphate thingy is over…….so boring.

Arabs hate Jews……who knew?

PappyD61 on February 15, 2011 at 8:14 PM

This genie is out of the bottle

Kini on February 15, 2011 at 8:14 PM

Yeah, he was on about the MB last week. Pretty much sez they’re harmless…nothing to see here folks.

I love hearing Lewis when he’s talking about taxes and finance…but anything else he’s got alot of “WTF” moments.

BigWyo on February 15, 2011 at 8:03 PM

Ditto, however he use to not be this type of useful idiot on foreign policy. He use to not talk about it much and more or less went with the conservative position.

Now he’s not remotely interested in the truth, is in love with Ron Paul big time and has decided its his mission to talk up isolationism big time instead of focusing on fiscal issues where he’s pretty good at.

He’s also getting pretty deep into Moral Relativsim on this journey of his

jp on February 15, 2011 at 8:15 PM

Exit question: What does the upheaval in the region do to Israel’s timetable for Iran’s nuclear program?

I thought that was necalur

Kini on February 15, 2011 at 8:15 PM

David Horowitz’s Keynote at CPAC 2011
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jDjdggtA-M

DH talks about MB,and the inflitration of the Jihady
Goons throughout,the Progressives,and right on up into
the White House!!

canopfor on February 15, 2011 at 8:18 PM

AP- how can you even feign surprise?

Israel IS the foreign policy cause celebre for Liberals in this country; they’ve consistently taken an anti-Israel stance and developments like this were part of the predictable outcome.

BKeyser on February 15, 2011 at 8:24 PM

Back in Jan. ’09, Obama was sworn into office (although he had to do a second take). Almost a million “true believers”
jammed the National Mall, leaving a breath-taking swath of foot-high debris in their wake. Day in day out, the American debt jumps to a level that no one can even comprehend. And nothing to show for it. Unemployment keeps edging up. Our economy sucks, really. The libs keep super-funding more programs, with their grand-finale, Obama-Care. And, they rejoice. We’ve watched the left do the Peppermint Twist, trying to find a “Tea-Bagger”, who throws racial slurs around. Couldn’t find one, so lied. In the mean time……Fort Hood massacre …an atrocity that pretty much is ignored.., but hey, who isn’t up for March Madness? We’ve watched the MSM genuflect over Obama, every single day. A man so devoid of intelligence, wisdom, honor…etc…that you do feel like Alice in Wonderland. What do these people see? I know I am going off, but, I’d like just one individual state, and give a coherent account of how the world after Obama is better for them.

betsyz on February 15, 2011 at 8:27 PM

Time for Israel to release transcripts of Obama’s talks with Soros on the special Blackberry.

NaCly dog on February 15, 2011 at 8:31 PM

Yeah this is bad.

My hope is the Army will not turn power over until the peace is assured with Israel… I hope they make civilian rule dependent on it.

I bit backwards from us where the civil government is the ultimate boss, but in that war mongering society it may be the only answer. And I think it makes sense because it is the military that must die for there war mongering.

This is my master plan… I should run the world\

petunia on February 15, 2011 at 8:36 PM

Tread carefully, Egyptians. The current occupant of the White House is a bowing, appeasing fool, but the one who replaces him in 2013 will not be.

AZCoyote on February 15, 2011 at 7:37 PM

Will there be a country left by 2013? Obama, I am sure, will plan a scorched earth, excuse me, scorched America policy after he loses in 2012. Everybody may as well get ready for this. What Obama does after he loses will make the Democrat’s lame duck session in congress last year look like, yes, a tea party.

JellyToast on February 15, 2011 at 8:42 PM

Heckuva job, Barry.

Midas on February 15, 2011 at 8:44 PM

These are dangerous words. To say that ‘the Camp David accords have come to an end’, -means what? A state of war exists between Egypt and Israel? Is that cause for Israel to strike pre-emptively? To occupy Sinai? To occupy Gaza in order to seal the border with Egypt? Why not?

It’s one thing to say that he would not have signed the accord as Sadat did, it’s another thing entirely to say that a peace treaty is ‘over’.

slickwillie2001 on February 15, 2011 at 8:48 PM

Egypt: The Camp David accords are over.
Israel: Fine: We’ll expect your evacuation of the Sinai Peninsula to be completed by the end of this week.
U.S.: Fine: You can return the $18 billion of foreign aid for the past ten years.

aunursa on February 15, 2011 at 8:04 PM

Egypt/Muslim Brotherhood: LOL – come and get them.

Midas on February 15, 2011 at 8:49 PM

How soon before Russia tries to bring Egypt back into its sphere of influence/control? China?…The Suez Canal is certainly a prize as well as a choke point…

Gohawgs on February 15, 2011 at 8:52 PM

Time for Israel to release transcripts of Obama’s talks with Soros on the special Blackberry.
NaCly dog on February 15, 2011 at 8:31 PM

That would really be a great idea – hopefully, Isreal has a whole file on the Quisling. If he’s gone this psycho over his freaking birth certificate, it’s safe to assume that pretty much everything from that point forward has to be damning.

At this point, doing a wikileaks-style data dump could only help Israel. The sooner they make this personal, the harder it will be for Obama to get away with cutting their funding or blockading them.

logis on February 15, 2011 at 8:53 PM

How soon before Russia tries to bring Egypt back into its sphere of influence/control? China?…The Suez Canal is certainly a prize as well as a choke point…

Gohawgs on February 15, 2011 at 8:52 PM

Gohawgs:Choke Point Image thingy!
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http://westforwestwing2012.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/oil_chokepoints1.jpg

canopfor on February 15, 2011 at 8:55 PM

So does Jimmy have to give the hardware back if the Camp David accord is no longer in effect? Just wondering.

InTheBellyoftheBeast on February 15, 2011 at 8:56 PM

I would like the Egyptians to consider, as the Israelis have done for years, that ONE BIG BOMB, not even a nuke, on the Aswan Dam, and Egyptian civilization will be dead for a thousand years.

sdillard on February 15, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Obama thinks the Muslim muezzin’s call to prayer is one of the “prettiest sounds on Earth“.

I never heard him praise the shofar’s horn.

Just sayin’.

profitsbeard on February 15, 2011 at 9:15 PM

profitsbeard on February 15, 2011 at 9:15 PM

Exxxactly!!!! It was ALL out there, everything, if only anyone bothered to read. He has been a simp-sandwich his entire life.

betsyz on February 15, 2011 at 9:21 PM

As I said on another thread, A muslim “peace” of paper had no value.

Therefore, there is no point for Israel to negotiate with the Palestinians. They’ll keep their word only until it doesn’t suit them to do so any longer.

honsy on February 15, 2011 at 9:22 PM

Man I sure loves me some ‘o dat Egyptian democracy that Obama made possible by his awesomeness.
– Chris Matthews

angryed on February 15, 2011 at 10:36 PM

Just to throw a slightly different spin on this–if Israel wants to strike Iran, they will almost certainly have to go through Saudi Arabia. So far, SA has not had to deal with serious protests, but the possibility is out there. SA will have to grant either fly-over rights or even permission for Israel to build temporary landing strips. I’ll bet that they refuse, because if they were to grant the rights, and Israel executed on them, you can bet your life that the subsequent protests against the House of Saud would be epic. Not to mention the sh!tstorm that would envelop the rest of the region.

Basically, if Israel were to strike against Iran, they would most likely precipitate the fall of the House of Saud. As I pointed out in another thread–this is really just taking the mask off of the Wahhabist nuts who are really running the country. But it ramps up the hate in the region by huge magnitudes, almost assuredly means the end of the treaties with Egypt and Jordan (as indicated above), and brings the state of relations in the Middle-East to a place we’ve not seen at least since the lead-up to the Six Day War.

I think Israel’s window of opportunity may have been closed permanently with the activities of the last few weeks in Egypt. They’re in a world of hurt, and it looks like President Obama could give a sh!t.

This really sucks. Just think gang. We may be able to lay the destruction of both the U.S. and Israel at Obama’s feet. Talk about a legacy….

nukemhill on February 15, 2011 at 11:11 PM

Obama wanted to own the outcome in Egypt, whatever it was. Well now he owns it and it is not going to turn out well.

Meanwhile in Iran, well the U.S. does not dictate to other countries now does it?

Dhuka on February 15, 2011 at 11:46 PM

Meanwhile in Iran, well the U.S. does not dictate to other countries now does it?

Dhuka on February 15, 2011 at 11:46 PM

This puzzled me too, until I realized Obama does everything wrong by design.

scotash on February 16, 2011 at 1:22 AM

It is exactly by design. Obama supports our enemies’ quest for power especially when it comes to Israel’s demise. He supports all of the left’s causes around the world, too. Look at Egypt and Iran. Both are repressive, one spews the leftist rhetoric and has Chinese support. The other is a long time ally with the US and Israel. OF COURSE HE WILL SUPPORT ONE OVER THE OTHER WHEN IT COMES TO AN UPRISING.

moyeti on February 16, 2011 at 7:01 AM

Egypt, you better tread lightly when it comes to your relations with Israel. The Israelis, unlike our current occupants in the WH, have war gamed every possible scenario with your country and, if you attack the results will be the same as in the past, you will lose and the consequences for the average Egyptian will be many fold painful than what you THINK you will do to the Israeli population.

devolvingtowardsidiocracy on February 16, 2011 at 8:02 AM

Under Carter, Egypt & Israel made peace. Now they’re going back to war? Making Jimmah look better all the time.

But really, does the Egyptian army really want to fight another war with Israel? I think the officers know they’d get their asses kicked again and don’t want it.

rbj on February 16, 2011 at 9:00 AM

Well damn, get Jimmah out of the closet and wind up his key again. There’s Mid-East Peace work afoot.

hawkdriver on February 16, 2011 at 9:12 AM

Wonderful work Barack. We also appreciate your not calling for resignations of Iranian leadership cause they’re a sovereign state.

eaglewingz08 on February 16, 2011 at 10:00 AM

Wonderful work Barack. We also appreciate your not calling for resignations of Iranian leadership cause they’re a sovereign state.

eaglewingz08 on February 16, 2011 at 10:00 AM

There’s an obvious explanation, -Bammie is afraid of Iran and Ahmastinkymonkey. They took down one democratic president and Bammie doesn’t want to go the same way.

slickwillie2001 on February 16, 2011 at 10:49 AM

Obama blew is opportunity in Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan, and the second round in Iran already when he failed to stand up tall in favor for “liberty” when the Iranian’s were rioting after the 2009 elections…

If Obama simply touted “democratic change”, he’d then support what had happened in the West Bank w/ the election of Hamas, and what Hezbollah is trying to accomplish in Lebanon – again.

Obama needs to stand up for “liberty”… for “freedom”… but he won’t… he can’t say it. How, when he is simultaneously too busy trying to spend and tax all of us into slavery?

This is going to brew into more garbage in the middle East that, whenever another non-Democrat President is elected, he/she will be faced again with a problem probably requiring another military answer.

Israel, as we can see, already gets it that as long as Obama is President, and until keffiyah-wearing Pelosi is voted out of office, that they are on their own…

Obama is a Jimmy Carter remix.

If, as Medved suggests, Obama isn’t doing this on purpose makes this even worse. I can at least deal with the fact that Obama has some kind of vision… to make the country socialist. If his foreign policy isn’t doing this on purpose, then he is an ignoramus. A useless idiot. Hell, what weak beta male leader was respected, ever, in the Middle East? Notice how even Russia and China area slowly starting to pin their ears back? Imadinnerjacket and nasty clown have already taunted the US from the UN in NYC! How long will it take for the rest of the Middle East? They may not have liked Bush, but, having mixed it up in Afghanistan & Iraq scared the hell out of them.

But least Michelle dresses well…

Danny on February 16, 2011 at 11:23 AM

…If, as Medved suggests, Obama isn’t doing this on purpose makes this even worse. I can at least deal with the fact that Obama has some kind of vision… to make the country socialist. If his foreign policy isn’t doing this on purpose, then he is an ignoramus. A useless idiot…

Don’t we assume that socialists are also ignoramuses?

slickwillie2001 on February 16, 2011 at 2:27 PM

Does this mean that Israel gets the Sinai Peninsula back? Spoils of war, you know! Or, rather, shouldn’t the Egyptians advocating abrogation of the treaty also tell their nation that means that Israel just might see fit to KEEP whatever land they take the next time they beat the Egyptians??

etaoinshrdlu on February 16, 2011 at 5:54 PM