Video: Niall Ferguson destroys Obama over Egypt
posted at 5:31 pm on February 14, 2011 by Allahpundit
A video accompaniment to this morning’s NewsBeast piece, in which he lays into Obama for equivocating and into his advisors for failing to foresee that a sick, elderly, widely despised fascist might be ripe for the picking by a discontented public. The clip is long but you’ll enjoy every minute, from Mika’s rose-colored visions of revolution being shattered to our bumbling intelligence braintrust derided as “third-rate” to The One’s grand “strategy” on foreign policy summarized as “I’m not George W. Bush. Love me.” Good lord, man — no need to use the brass knuckles.
Just one nagging question: Which grand strategy should Obama have pursued in lieu of the one he chose, i.e. backing Mubarak and then hedging once demonstrators forced a direct confrontation? In the clip, Ferguson mentions American assistance to dissidents in eastern Europe during the Soviet era, which helped prepare the ground for transitioning to liberal democracy once Russian hegemony collapsed. Not only hasn’t The One reached out to Egyptian liberals, he actually cut the funding provided to them by Bush’s administration once he took office. (In fact, Bush’s efforts to promote democracy did have some effect on the Egyptian protests.) Should he have continued that funding or even increased it in anticipation of chaos breaking out once the old pharaoh died or tried to hand power to his son Gamal? If he had, given the now infamous poll numbers from Pew about how Egyptians view the role of Islam in politics and punishments like stoning for adultery, what confidence is there that that funding would have achieved anything? The problem with Egypt isn’t that there are no liberal democrats; the fear is that, unlike in eastern Europe, there aren’t enough to sustain a liberal democracy even if the U.S. somehow buys one into existence. Which, of course, is why so many people (Ferguson presumably among them) expect that American interests in the Middle East are bound to suffer no matter what sort of government comes out of this.
The other problem with Egypt, of course, is the fear of contagion. With Iraq, contagion was a virtue because the countries in its immediate sphere of influence — Iran, Syria, and Iran’s Hezbollah proxy in Lebanon — were U.S. enemies. Turning Iraq into a democracy was supposed to inspire the Shiites and Sunnis next door to demand the same thing, which necessarily meant more liberal, western-oriented regimes. The proverbial anti-American dominoes would fall. Mubarak, however, was probably more western-oriented than whatever will come after him, and the Saudi royals are definitely more western-oriented. If democracy fever crosses the Red Sea from Egypt into the Kingdom, contagious from one great Sunni power to another, all hell will break loose. (Which helps explain why Bush, the great neocon liberator, was happy to be photographed literally holding hands with Abdullah.) So I ask again: Knowing all that, knowing that democracy in Egypt could mean an elected government of Wahhabist lunatics in Saudi Arabia, what was The One supposed to have done differently to prepare for the end of Mubarak? The best answer I can come up with — which I’ve given you in a previous post — is to go all-in on regime change in Iran so that aspiring democrats around the region can see for themselves how ecstatic Iranians are to be free from an Islamist regime. Might make fencesitters in Egypt think twice before voting for the Muslim Brotherhood. Or at least, that’s what I tell myself.
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I guess he didn’t get Oprah’s ukase about Dear Leader.
Fortunata on February 14, 2011 at 5:34 PM
And he’s allowed to teach at Harvard? He better look out I see a pink slip in his future!
sandee on February 14, 2011 at 5:37 PM
PBHO should have watched more CNN since that’s where all his advisers got their own information.
Bishop on February 14, 2011 at 5:39 PM
OMG! Mika and Co. worldview was shattered in under 10 minutes. Bravo Professor!!!
Lance Murdock on February 14, 2011 at 5:39 PM
I saw Ferguson this morning on Morning Joe. And he was awesome. Having a guy with a British accent intelligently shred Obama and his advisers right in front of Mika, Halpern, Capehart, and Geist increased the effect of this clip many times over.
He will NEVER be asked to be a guest on MSNBC again.
BuckeyeSam on February 14, 2011 at 5:39 PM
O/T
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Videos of todays Iranian Protests!
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Monday, February 14, 2011
Despite of regime’s claime,Green Movement came out STRONG ! Regime can’t get rid of this movement,it has come to stay till regime is gone !
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Iran Watch Canada
http://www.moriab.blogspot.com/
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Saturday, February 12, 2011
Statement of the Green Path of Hope Coordination Council Regarding the February 14th Demonstrations
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The coordination council of the Green Path of Hope has issued a statement supporting the February 14th demonstrations, holding the interior ministry responsible for their safety and for taking measures to ensure the grandeur of the demonstrations.A segment of the council’s statement reads “The noble people of Iran and followers of the green movement should participate in this peaceful demonstration with calm and resolve, and must not allow the infiltrating agents of those seeking violence to derail the demonstrations with their aggressive behavior under any circumstances.”
The full text of this statement is as follows:
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In the Name of God,
We congratulate the freedom seeking and justice pursuing people of Egypt and Iran for the fall of the pharaoh-esque dictatorship of Mubarak, and we strongly protest the recent widespread illegal incarcerations as well as the heavy increase of illegal restrictions on Messrs. Mousavi and Karroubi which verifies the ruling autocrats’ weakness and fear of any civil and political movement of the people, even of the most peaceful kind, and we also lament the pattern of law breaking by the officials in charge of executing the law. With this, we declare:
1. As part of the interior ministry’s responsibility to uphold its legal obligations and the people’s legal rights guaranteed in article 27 of the constitution, this ministry has a duty to issue a license for demonstrations in support of the people’s movements in Tunisia and Egypt in response to the request made by Messrs. Mousavi and Karroubi. Furthermore, this ministry must immediately inform the public of all measures taken to ensure the safety of citizens and the peaceful holding of the demonstrations. Failure to respond to this request and to take the necessary measures to hold the demonstrations peacefully will disgrace the government of Iran on national and international levels and will basically undermine its official stance in supporting the people’s movements of Tunisia and Egypt.
2. The noble people of Iran and followers of the green movement should participate in this peaceful demonstration with calm and resolve, and must not allow the infiltrating agents of those seeking violence to derail the demonstrations with their aggressive behavior under any circumstances.
Our promise, we meet on Monday February 14, 2011, 3:00pm in Tehran from Imam Hossein Square to Azadi Square.
- Coordination Council of the Green Path of Hope
http://www.moriab.blogspot.com/
canopfor on February 13, 2011 at 7:11 AM
canopfor on February 14, 2011 at 5:40 PM
“I’m not W. Love Me!” Hahahahaha!!!!!
Neil Ferguson is my new hero!
Lance Murdock on February 14, 2011 at 5:42 PM
The Returning of Churchill’s bust lingers in Ferguson’s mind.
I loved it.
portlandon on February 14, 2011 at 5:42 PM
Rush nail him pretty good too Obama sings ” When I Talked To Thee Egyptians “
Nearly Nobody on February 14, 2011 at 5:43 PM
Can’t wait to see Lawrence O’Donnell have him on the show and try to shout him down. Ferguson’s truth will cause fits across the whole MSNBC line-up.
portlandon on February 14, 2011 at 5:43 PM
Bingo. Not only would that action have been just, it would have also added an element of sincerity to all his most recent grand platitudes.
Demosthenes on February 14, 2011 at 5:44 PM
Like Bolton said,if there was anything that Hopey did
regarding Foreign Policy,he could criticize it,but there
is zero,zip,notta,
no One on Planet Earth knows!!
canopfor on February 14, 2011 at 5:44 PM
You mean the three strategies he chose, no?
How about one that overtly assures our allies in the region that they have our continued support and that we honor our commitments but quietly persuades Mubarack that he’s got to go and we’ll make it possible for him to go safely. How about something like that?
Too complicated, I guess.
Obama will pay a price (as will all of us) for losing Egypt. He better be careful what he takes credit for.
SlaveDog on February 14, 2011 at 5:44 PM
That’s what Reagan would do, that’s what JFK would do, these are the men Obama likes to compare himself to.
Tony737 on February 14, 2011 at 5:45 PM
Current Liberal Thoughts,on Egypt,
Hope/Change!
Thats it!!!
Feel Safe,eh!!!
canopfor on February 14, 2011 at 5:45 PM
Yeah, I’m sure he’ll get right on that.
Vyce on February 14, 2011 at 5:46 PM
awesome clip. thx for posting it ap.
ted c on February 14, 2011 at 5:46 PM
Well given that the man was 82, and that the army didn’t support his son taking over, you’d think they might have gamed out a face-saving exit strategy for him that allowed us to claim to be on the side of freedom while keeping our interests front and center.
Instead, the minions in CNN try to incite a revolution and the idiot in the White House alternately tells him to jump/don’t jump as he hovers on the brink. Meanwhile, Panetta tells him what’s on TV tonight.
Fortunata on February 14, 2011 at 5:47 PM
Haha. I have yet to see a clip of Mika where she is not getting obliterated by a guest.
Chuck Schick on February 14, 2011 at 5:48 PM
Wow. Just Wow.
txmomof6 on February 14, 2011 at 5:48 PM
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty. – JFK
Tony737 on February 14, 2011 at 5:49 PM
Ah, to delve deeper into the lib brain and how it calculates,
formulates:
Mika: “But, wasn’t Obama’s flip-flop-flip approach da*n awesome?”
betsyz on February 14, 2011 at 5:51 PM
Valerie Jarret tells Panetta what to tell the Messiah
Roy Rogers on February 14, 2011 at 5:51 PM
As if any progressive lib today resembled anything as good as that.
Roy Rogers on February 14, 2011 at 5:52 PM
Maybe it was the Unions that are living in Hopeys
brain,
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Interesting Part Deux
From a Lefty Site!
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Power of Egypt’s Workers Moves To Center Stage
Egyptian Workers Hold Key to Uprising, New Union Association Issues Call for General Strike
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End of Hated Anti-Union Law No. 100 Preceded Uprising
Barely reported in the West, among the crowds at Tahrir Square last Sunday, a new trade union confederation was announced, the Federation of Egyptian Trade Unions (FETU), which immediately issued a call for a general-strike. The call has been widely taken up, and many reports now link the uprising to unity with the workers, particularly in Suez, where the battle has been fought most intensely with state police. The new confederation has the support of the International Trades Union Confederation and the AFL-CIO.
The Sydney Morning Herald is reporting that the general strike call initiated from workers in Suez. Whoever initiated it, the new trade union organizations are jumping on board.
Law No. 100 has regulated union internal activities since 1993, by setting quotas for attendance for elections to union offices, and putting judicial controls on unions that cannot meet the stringent requirements. The FETU leadership includes the head of the Real Estate Tax Authority Workers union, or RETA, the first independent union in Egypt in over 50 years. RETA itself is not recognized by the Egyptian state. The Center for Trade Union and Workers Services (CTUWS), also a part of the new FETU, had its headquarters closed by the government in 2007, and was only allowed to reopen in July 2008.
http://beavercountyblue.org/2011/02/01/power-of-egypts-workers-moves-to-center-stage/
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It started as a UNION Coniption fit,watch it get
hijacked,similar to Iran(the Jihady part)!
canopfor on February 6, 2011 at 4:29 PM
canopfor on February 14, 2011 at 5:53 PM
Yes, when she’s not telling army officers to make her a sammitch.
Fortunata on February 14, 2011 at 5:53 PM
This clip is a little long but every minute is worth watching. I’m so happy this interview took place on Obama’s favorite MSNBC and not on Fox. Wow, just wow!
GrannySunni on February 14, 2011 at 5:53 PM
Only after she requests that he refill her wine goblet.
betsyz on February 14, 2011 at 5:53 PM
This fellow rocks. He could take some Republicans to school while he’s at it.
DaMav on February 14, 2011 at 5:53 PM
… go all-in on regime change in Iran …
That’s what Reagan would do, that’s what JFK would do, these are the men Obama likes to compare himself to.
Tony737 on February 14, 2011 at 5:45 PM
Tony737:And Reagan would have a “Strike Group” parked off
Egypt,
as an “Insurance Policy”-*wink-wink*!!:)
canopfor on February 14, 2011 at 5:55 PM
A man you will never see on MSNBC again…but he was so good, so thorough, so emotionally detached, and so intelligent, they sat in awe.
right2bright on February 14, 2011 at 5:55 PM
I haven’t watched this show in several years, maybe 5. What happened to Mika, she used to be hot. Now….not so much.
She’s still as stupid as she was back in the day. Some things never change.
angryed on February 14, 2011 at 5:55 PM
Big thinkers in this administration? – “None” – Priceless!
50sGuy on February 14, 2011 at 5:55 PM
I loved every delicious minute of this. Another money quote:
Kataklysmic on February 14, 2011 at 5:57 PM
Yes, instead our allies are wondering when they will get stabbed in the back.
fourdeucer on February 14, 2011 at 5:57 PM
Say what you want about Morning Joe, but it sure is nice to hear a conversation – without constant host interruptions – longer than 90 seconds on cable news.
YYZ on February 14, 2011 at 5:57 PM
This just in: Niall’s to undergo excruciating IRS audit.
angryed on February 14, 2011 at 5:58 PM
From,Stratfor Global Intelligence,
A Breakdown of Egyptian Opposition Groups
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Feb 3 2011
A Breakdown of Egyptian Opposition Groups
http://www.scribd.com/doc/48130759/A-Breakdown-of-Egyptian-Opposition-Groups
canopfor on February 14, 2011 at 5:59 PM
Well that’s typically because a socialist is interviewing a socialist on that show. Not much debate or need for interruptions.
In this case, they tried to interrupt, but had nothing to say that sounded intelligent.
angryed on February 14, 2011 at 5:59 PM
He wrote a cover story on Newsweek with that very same thesis. That’s why they booked him.
YYZ on February 14, 2011 at 5:59 PM
Soon a washed up, fat, fail jazz musician and blogger will post a thread on how racist and Naziequse Niall Ferguson is.
Lance Murdock on February 14, 2011 at 5:59 PM
“Touchy-Feely”
“Flip-Flop-Flip”
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canopfor on February 14, 2011 at 6:00 PM
Mornin’ Joe wants Ferguson out “yesterday”…
d1carter on February 14, 2011 at 6:00 PM
Barry Rubin on Egypt’s Military Return
“Let’s remember something that nobody wants to hear right now. The revolution in Egypt succeeded because the army didn’t want President Husni Mubarak any more.”
Caststeel on February 14, 2011 at 6:01 PM
In the interview above, Ferguson is given numerous opportunities to explain what he would have done differently, and fails each time to provide anything of substance. This leads me to believe he was looking to get some exposure and make a quick buck by appealing to a ready-made constituency (HA readers and Fox news viewers) who will love his article and thoroughly enjoy watching this MSNBC video online. Having Mika as the clueless foil only makes his job in advertising his pointless article that much easier.
None of this changes the fact that notwithstanding what happens going forward, the current situation in Egypt is about the best any freedom-and-democracy-loving conservative could hope for at this point in time, and it came about during Obama’s presidency, not Bush’s.
underceij on February 14, 2011 at 6:02 PM
In the last shot of Capehart, he looked like a deer in headlights…
d1carter on February 14, 2011 at 6:02 PM
What.a.man.
ctmom on February 14, 2011 at 6:03 PM
Not quite. Most hosts love hearing the sound of their own voice, even when they’re interviewing someone they agree with (*cough cough Chris Matthews and Bill O’Reilly cough cough*)
YYZ on February 14, 2011 at 6:03 PM
Well,ya know,
Obama used only “Words”,and..and..peace be upon the region,
compared,to Bush,and…and…the Cow Boy Up Policy…
and…and…see.mere words…and..his mesmerizing Left,right
head sweep Speechs…
and…not a single shot fired…see..see….(Snark).
canopfor on February 14, 2011 at 6:04 PM
The stunned silence of that panel is golden.
The MSM continues to mine for the least trace of something worthwhile to be credited to Obama in all this.
After the way he handled Honduras and the Iran protests, it’s amazing that anyone still has faith in him. What would it take to lose the Mikas of this world?
TexasDan on February 14, 2011 at 6:04 PM
OMG: That professor just put to words what we all have been saying for the past year or longer. I’m going to spread this post far and wide…
Keemo on February 14, 2011 at 6:04 PM
That stunned silence are those absolute worthless humans watching their ship taking on huge amounts of water.
Keemo on February 14, 2011 at 6:06 PM
Little known fact: MSNBC’s target audience is readers of conservative blogs and, umm, Fox News viewers.
YYZ on February 14, 2011 at 6:07 PM
I’m cool with that.
Of course if Egypt devolves into anarchy, jihadist control, or comes under the reign of a military-sponsored strongman, you will be here to remind everyone that this happened under Obama and not Bush.
Bishop on February 14, 2011 at 6:08 PM
I am sorry but until MB is ostracized and named as a terrorist organization and it’s cleaned up from Egypt, this is not what any conservative would want.
promachus on February 14, 2011 at 6:09 PM
Seeing the initial protests were in response to food shortages (if i’m not mistaken), then immediate shipments of grains and a quick announced of a future trade agreement to relieve pressure on long-term food prices could have stablized the situation… with a behind the scenes pressure to a more liberalized, multi-party democratic / republic process…
phreshone on February 14, 2011 at 6:10 PM
Are you listening RINOs? This is how you attack an empty suit!
Ted Torgerson on February 14, 2011 at 6:11 PM
Kataklysmic on February 14, 2011 at 6:11 PM
It’s tough to compare the Egyptian scenario with that of Eastern Europe, seeing as in the former soviet republics we weren’t the ones propping up their tyrannical regimes. In Egypt, US support is a touch of death when it comes to popular opinion; there were no good options in terms of US strategic interest, so best to just step up and cheer on the r3volution.
ernesto on February 14, 2011 at 6:11 PM
They were responding like teenagers, or “Today Now” hosts. Either one.
rihar on February 14, 2011 at 6:12 PM
Oh Lordy.
Those two were absolutely flummoxed at the end of the clip.
Comedy gold.
hillbillyjim on February 14, 2011 at 6:12 PM
You would write well for The Onion.
angryed on February 14, 2011 at 6:12 PM
The usual minions are being laughed at. How long before Barry, The Credit Grabber must take over with his trusty steed TPOUS.
Caststeel on February 14, 2011 at 6:13 PM
You’re right about BOR. When he interviews Obama, he lets THE ONE drone on endlessly. Chris Matthews escaped from the loonie bin long ago.
angryed on February 14, 2011 at 6:14 PM
OMG: That professor just put to words what we all have been saying for the past year or longer. I’m going to spread this post far and wide…
Keemo on February 14, 2011 at 6:04 PM
Keemo:True Dat,a mirror of,Hot Air thoughts!!:)
canopfor on February 14, 2011 at 6:16 PM
Somehow US support worked for 30 years.
Caststeel on February 14, 2011 at 6:16 PM
I have never known that MSNBC actually has guests who are this competent and openly honest. That was the first time I had ever heard Mika. Is she usually that intellectually bankrupt?
volsense on February 14, 2011 at 6:16 PM
I’m glad I have the cheap cable (no MSNBC) so I don’t have to suffer such fools regularly.
Fortunately, neither does Mr. Ferguson.
Bruno Strozek on February 14, 2011 at 6:17 PM
Once, under direction of my vet, I had to force feed my dog some hydrogen peroxide (to force vomiting). Capehart’s face in the last shot reminded me of the dogs face immediately after that treatment.
aquaviva on February 14, 2011 at 6:17 PM
I’ll never forget the look on Netanyahu’s face the first time he came to the White House and met Obama. It was sheer shock. I truly believe he was astonished to realize what an absolute, mind-blowing moron the U.S. had elected as president. (This was the meeting before he was snubbed for dinner.)…and with the latest turn of events, I’m sure, although he intellectually resolved it in his mind two years ago, this has been the betrayal he always feared, but hoped against hope, that would never actually occur.
Some people “get it”, but they seem to be in the unpopular a small, minority crowd.
I am not a great prognosticator on many things, or else, I’d be royally rich investing in tattoo shops, that I only foresaw as a a short-lived whim. But behold the masses!
betsyz on February 14, 2011 at 6:17 PM
Ojesus did it if it turns out well; Bush did it if it flies all to hell. Of course.
Maybe Hillary can send Egypt a Tweet and all will end well.
hillbillyjim on February 14, 2011 at 6:17 PM
It is off the topic, but JFK did not go all in with regime change in Cuba. The Bay of Pigs invasion was a fiasco precisely because it was a compromise half measure.
Ted Torgerson on February 14, 2011 at 6:18 PM
Obama: “Mubarak has been a force for … good”
From link inside Verum Serum post:
Verum Serum: “Not exactly a “tear down this wall” moment.”
http://www.verumserum.com/?p=21453
powerpro on February 14, 2011 at 6:21 PM
And so you would have had us subjugate the Egyptian people indefinitely? Eventually time runs out. My only point was that our propping up liberal democrats in Egypt will not be as easy as it was in Eastern Europe, primarily because we are directly responsible for the tyranny the Egyptian people are trying to rid themselves of.
ernesto on February 14, 2011 at 6:24 PM
I have never known that MSNBC actually has guests who are this competent and openly honest. That was the first time I had ever heard Mika. Is she usually that intellectually bankrupt?
volsense on February 14, 2011 at 6:16 PM
Yep.
50sGuy on February 14, 2011 at 6:24 PM
Scarbough thinks Egypt went pretty darn well. His drunk outta the MSNBC water cooler way too much. There is no turning back to sanity for that man.
Sultry Beauty on February 14, 2011 at 6:24 PM
Niall Ferguson’s love interest is Ayaan Hirsi Ali…this guy is one smart dude.
d1carter on February 14, 2011 at 6:26 PM
No , the fall of Iran theocracy would have been that. But Obama failed.
the_nile on February 14, 2011 at 6:26 PM
Very amusing. Very funny to watch Mika. I mean here is a woman that is supposed to be a “journalist.” These people claim to be seeking out a story where ever it may lead. And you can see her so visibly frustrated because her only recourse in light of a complete opposition to her personal narrative, was to begin to mock Ferguson.
And Ferguson had far, far better arguments. Beyond all of the lies and cheerleading of the MSM, they’ve allowed themselves to become so intellectually full and uniformed. When someone who can articulate a real argument comes along, they scatter like cockroaches to light.
JeffB. on February 14, 2011 at 6:28 PM
I think this also sinks any further political ambitions Hillary might have. Her role in this stinks, too.
NNtrancer on February 14, 2011 at 6:29 PM
The Morning Joe team seem an incompetent bunch themselves. They were kicking their toes in the dirt with their heads in shame as if the adult in the room just laid down the law and grounded them all for a month.
How easy they crumble when the straight truth is used.
Saltysam on February 14, 2011 at 6:30 PM
The exasperated Mika huffing and puffing at the end of the clip is priceless…
“I know that you’re wrong but I just can’t think of anything to say to prove it… /eyeroll.”
Scrappy on February 14, 2011 at 6:30 PM
This one is good too:
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/niall-ferguson-whether-financial-crisis-will-lead-americas-decline-and-glimpse-post-pax-amer#comments
the_nile on February 14, 2011 at 6:31 PM
I’ve got Ferguson’s “The Cash Nexus” on my to-read pile. I would love to hear what he thinks of our impending budget crisis too. Note to libs: now that’s clean and articulate…
Fortunata on February 14, 2011 at 6:34 PM
You are on the wrong site pal. This is an informed community. I don’t remember seeing you here before this, so I will spare you from the words that came to mind upon reading your naive comment.
Keemo on February 14, 2011 at 6:34 PM
Two thoughts:
A) Comcast/ MSNBC merger got the producer thinking about the next job?
2) Preview of 2012 presidential debates? /crossed fingers
Caststeel on February 14, 2011 at 6:36 PM
Trading a strongman for a military junta? There hasn’t been an election yet. As Bishop pointed out, you might want to be careful about patting Obama on the back over all this, since you might want to blame it on Bush later.
ddrintn on February 14, 2011 at 6:36 PM
Duh! Should have refreshed before I posted. Great minds etc…
Fortunata on February 14, 2011 at 6:36 PM
Indeed, he jerked the rug out from under her dumb a$$ right of the bat.
30 seconds after they went to commercial: ‘That horrible man is NEVER going to be on our show ever again!!! Get my daddy on the phone!!!”
BigWyo on February 14, 2011 at 6:38 PM
It went supremely well, but don’t forget that flotilla aiding the Palestinians. Why those Israeli’s jumped on the humanitarian boat and killed, defenseless, almost 7 people. PLUS they were obstructing the food, medical supplies, etc. all to the needy. And when I say “NEEDY”, YOU HAVE TO ENVISION THE OBSTRUCTION TO A GROUP OF PEOPLE, WHO ARE BANGING ON THE WALLS, TRYING TO RECAPTURE THEIR JUST LAND.
No one knows the tally on the death loss in this latest and greatest protest to overthrow a government, maybe 100-300, but it was worth it. Do I need to put a /?
betsyz on February 14, 2011 at 6:39 PM
I get the feeling that the MSNBC staff, and especially Mika didn’t realize that Mr Havel had US support from 1977 to 1989 and that they can’t point to anyone/any democratic group in Egypt that Obama started supporting in 2008-2009, or even before as a Senator, and that he is ready to come out into the open with and acknowledge.
journeyintothewhirlwind on February 14, 2011 at 6:44 PM
O/T but just say’n: Mubarek is 82. Isn’t Soros about the same?
Caststeel on February 14, 2011 at 6:47 PM
Thank you, AP for this video clip! Dr. Ferguson handed them their hats. The clueless looks on their faces were priceless and prompted multiple belly laughs.
Is it just some coincidence that they lined up 5 leftwingers to counter Dr. ‘F’ or do they know how stone stupid they all are and were trying to gang up on him?
Question: How many libs does it take to out argue 1 man with a brain? Answer: Unknown, but defintely more than 5.
PS: I consider Scarborough a lefty anymore.
JimP on February 14, 2011 at 6:51 PM
The proper strategy for Obama should have been to stay relatively neutral until Mubarak gave that speech saying he would retain power. The instant that happened and it became apparent that the S was about to HTF, he should have done a live speech on Al Jazeera explaining in the simplest of terms why we have supported Mubarak for the last 30 years (peace), but that the United States can no longer support him as it is apparent that his people no longer support him. Explain we want peace in the region, but we do not want it at the cost of freedom to the Egyptian people.
The credit he would have gotten would have been amazing and it certainly would have helped out image in Egypt as a country.
thphilli on February 14, 2011 at 6:52 PM
Mika….”look at the pretty pictures”
roflmao
donabernathy on February 14, 2011 at 6:55 PM
betsyz on February 14, 2011 at 6:57 PM
I love how they tried to bait Ferguson with the usual “Oh yeah? Well I bet you loved Bush!” routine so they can set up their usual moronic dichotomy and beat him over the head with it. Like they’re dragging a chew toy in front of a puppy. The arrogance of the people at MSNBC is revolting.
And who the hell was that clown who was saying to Ferguson “Well you seem to think history is static” as if he’s in a position to talk down to Ferguson about his scholarship? We all have the right to disagree but Ferguson knows more about history than that clown ever will and by a very wide margin.
Django on February 14, 2011 at 7:02 PM
O/T but just say’n: Mubarek is 82. Isn’t Soros about the same?
Well he did say, I can’t remember, but he bugled a word, like nuclear, well, that was that. You cannot respect any man to represent the United States of America, and say such a thing. Just do a survey in downtown Baltimore. They’ll tell ya.
betsyz on February 14, 2011 at 7:09 PM
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