Hillary to Iran: If you like those Egyptian protests so much, let your own people rally

posted at 7:35 pm on February 14, 2011 by Allahpundit

Good stuff on a day that saw the biggest demonstrations in Iran since the heyday of the Green Revolution. One person’s already been shot dead and many, many more have been beaten and teargassed. The crowds apparently weren’t huge like they were in Egypt, but demonstrations were spotted in multiple cities and the regime’s nervous enough to have placed opposition leaders Mousavi and Karroubi under house arrest. I read somewhere today that Mubarak’s downfall supposedly teaches the lesson that we’re better off making nice with rogue states like Iran, since then at least we have some leverage in restraining their military when people turn out in the streets. Is that right? Khamenei and Ahmadinejad, who’ve had no problem unleashing thugs against demonstrators before, will supposedly hold off in the face of an existential threat simply because Obama will be grumpy if they don’t? The real lesson of Mubarak’s downfall that’s being learned by leaders around the region, I’m afraid, is that if you don’t unleash the goons, you’re apt to get a knock on the door from your own military one morning and put out to pasture at Sharm el-Sheikh. The mullahs cracked down in 2009 and they’re still in power; Mubarak didn’t and now he’s yesterday’s news. No amount of nice-nice with the State Department will alter that blueprint. And if push ever comes to shove in Saudi Arabia, the royals will prove it.

Still, this is a useful statement by Hillary, not merely because it scores an easy point on the surreal Orwellian hypocrisy of Iran’s regime cheering on democracy in Cairo but because of the point I made earlier in the Ferguson post. There are a lot of nascent democrats around the region right now. Best to remind them of what it’s really like to live under an Islamist government before they go and elect one of their own. Two clips for you here, one of Clinton and the other a quickie CNN round-up of the protests. Note the footage near the end of Iranians beating a man who was trying to protect a poster of Khamenei; according to whoever uploaded it to YouTube, that man was a member of the Basij, the brownshirts sent by the regime into the streets at moments like these to crack heads and terrorize people. (Mubarak briefly deployed his own version of the same sort of goon squad back on February 2.) Exit question: Are the protests done for now or will people be back on the streets tomorrow? If it’s the latter, look out.


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Ferguson nailed Hillary perfectly by stating that she is a c- and not in the league with those that came before her. She’ll change her message as the winds change direction.

Keemo on February 14, 2011 at 7:44 PM

I’d rather have Hillary in the White House…..….

…….and that’s saying somethin’!!

PappyD61 on February 14, 2011 at 7:45 PM

Who`s that girl?

ThePrez on February 14, 2011 at 7:46 PM

I have to admit if this is going to happen I would rather it be all of them than just our “allies”.

Cindy Munford on February 14, 2011 at 7:46 PM

And tomorrow, she`ll be cutting the ribbon on a new McDonalds in Thailand!

ThePrez on February 14, 2011 at 7:48 PM

She’ll change her message as the winds change direction.

Keemo on February 14, 2011 at 7:44 PM

I seem to remember her hubby governing the same way.

Rovin on February 14, 2011 at 7:49 PM

Did Hillary get permission from her boss to raise the temperature a bit on Iran? You know, the guy who wanted to talk at a-jad without preconditions, who let the patriots twist in the wind during their window of opportunity, while he was busy waxing grandiloquent?

What a nice administration we have. The ridicule of the world is rightly upon us.

Nonetheless, I wish those Iranian patriots the very best.

paul1149 on February 14, 2011 at 7:50 PM

Neda was unavailable for comment…

Seven Percent Solution on February 14, 2011 at 7:56 PM

We have to wait and see what Mr. Clapper has to say. Seriously, if Hillary does the talking instead of Gibbs, Obama and Clapper and sticks with the same message I am fine with what she said.

fourdeucer on February 14, 2011 at 7:57 PM

Hillary to Imadinnerjacket: “Walk like an Egyptian”!

44Magnum on February 14, 2011 at 8:00 PM

Still, this is a useful statement by Hillary

NO. SUCH. THING. Means nada. Will like be contradicted in the AM by obama or biden.

winston on February 14, 2011 at 8:01 PM

To see this administration speak highly of protests and listening to the will of the people is sickening. Where was that concern as they pushed through legislation against the will of the people and derided the protesters in this country as racists?

Grunt on February 14, 2011 at 8:01 PM

She’s trying to revise the ‘consistency’ on Egypt. She was as inept as Obama and all their nest.

Ferguson, in the article and the video on MSNBC summed up to perfection this admin’s hypocrisy and lack of convictions.

Lefties are not true liberals nor progressives.

Hillary’s video is BS to make up for the lost opportunity in 2009, when she and Obama were silent.

Never, ever, forget what they did NOT do in 2009. DO NOT let them revise their own history, the weasels.

Schadenfreude on February 14, 2011 at 8:03 PM

Oh dear, I wrote too many rude things about the Saudis, so my post doesn’t show. Life couldn’t be worse than under the Saudi Wahhabis. If they get overthrown, there aren’t any worse scenarios; and they’ll still have to sell their oil on the world market. Phuck ‘em.

Fortunata on February 14, 2011 at 8:08 PM

She’ll be singing a different tune if the talk comes to having protests of the home grown kind.

BowHuntingTexas on February 14, 2011 at 8:10 PM

thank you Hillary.

ginaswo on February 14, 2011 at 8:15 PM

She’ll be singing a different tune if the talk comes to having protests of the home grown kind.

BowHuntingTexas on February 14, 2011 at 8:10 PM

Absolutely right, as long as her venom is aimed at the Iranian maniacs let her spew.

fourdeucer on February 14, 2011 at 8:17 PM

As great as it is to see the people of Iran calling for the heads of Khamenehi and Ahmadenjad…..it’s the Republican guard that will decide who stays and who goes in Iran.
They have it pretty good right now….will be interesting to see if they think they can make things even better for themselves through a new uprising.

Baxter Greene on February 14, 2011 at 8:26 PM

Besides the fact that Obama also cut off major funding to pro-democracy groups in Iran just like he did Egypt…
…let’s remember how Obama addressed hundreds of thousands of Iranians that were being attacked in the streets for daring to want credible elections:

Obama
Nov. 2009

We do not interfere in Iran’s internal affairs. We have condemned terrorist attacks against Iran. We have recognized Iran’s international right to peaceful nuclear power. We have demonstrated our willingness to take confidence-building steps along with others in the international community. We have accepted a proposal by the International Atomic Energy Agency to meet Iran’s request for assistance in meeting the medical needs of its people. We have made clear that if Iran lives up to the obligations that every nation has, it will have a path to a more prosperous and productive relationship with the international community.

……As usual…when it counted…Obama votes “present” and renders himself irrelevant……

Baxter Greene on February 14, 2011 at 8:32 PM

If Hillary makes it thru 2012…she’s gonna go ‘Whew! Glad that’s over’

BigWyo on February 14, 2011 at 8:33 PM

Baxter Greene, thank you. Must be repeated and strongly:

We do not interfere in Iran’s internal affairs. We have condemned terrorist attacks against Iran. We have recognized Iran’s international right to peaceful nuclear power. We have demonstrated our willingness to take confidence-building steps along with others in the international community. We have accepted a proposal by the International Atomic Energy Agency to meet Iran’s request for assistance in meeting the medical needs of its people. We have made clear that if Iran lives up to the obligations that every nation has, it will have a path to a more prosperous and productive relationship with the international community.

Obama, Nov. 2009. Ferguson has it absolutely right. Obama has no spine for freedom and liberties.

He calls himself the “Gipper”. What a marionette, a fool, the little stoneless man is. He bends with every tiny breeze. He’s an amoeba.

Only fools believe and write otherwise.

Schadenfreude on February 14, 2011 at 8:46 PM

Yep, Hillary would be a huge improvement over that mess we currently have. If Bamster gives her misery over supporting Iranian freedom movements, she should resign. That would certainly help sink his Titanic faster

clnurnberg on February 14, 2011 at 8:47 PM

So now both Obama and Clinton are following Palin’s lead on Iran….cool..

unseen on February 14, 2011 at 9:20 PM

“Useful statement by Hillary”? How about “I quit.”

GaltBlvnAtty on February 14, 2011 at 9:42 PM

Schadenfreude on February 14, 2011 at 8:46 PM

I suspect that when demonstrations in Iran blew up last year, Ahmadinejad made a credible threat to Bammie, to set off Iraq or Lebanon if we gave any support of any kind to protesters in Iran. The little monkey controls hezbulluh in Lebanon and Mookie in Iraq, and he can deliver on that threat. I suspect that Bammie gave in because it’s his nature.

slickwillie2001 on February 14, 2011 at 9:49 PM

Only fools believe and write otherwise.

Schadenfreude on February 14, 2011 at 8:46 PM

Second that…..

Baxter Greene on February 14, 2011 at 10:20 PM


Republican guard
that will decide who stays and who goes in Iran.

Baxter Greene on February 14, 2011 at 8:26 PM

opps…
Revolutionary Guard…

Baxter Greene on February 14, 2011 at 10:34 PM

Hillary is about as effective as an Ambassador to the Moon. I can’t think of an instance where she took a real stance and made some impact. She’s become a nonentity. I forget we HAVE a Secretary of State.

ace tomato on February 14, 2011 at 10:35 PM

Getting all worked up about protestors in Egypt but not Iran? Gee, I thought she was talking about Obama

DaMav on February 14, 2011 at 10:45 PM

There are a lot of nascent democrats around the region right now. Best to remind them of what it’s really like to live under an Islamist government before they go and elect one of their own.

I didn’t think of that… even if they don’t fall it is useful to point out that people are very unhappy inside.

I am going to hate it if Obama gets credit for bring down Iran after his dismal record… but whatever, at this point I think this may be the only way to save Egypt and the other’s from turning into Iran.

petunia on February 14, 2011 at 11:29 PM

All Barry has to do is say “We support the people in Iran having the same freedoms the people in egypt enjoyed”

But he won’t do that, because like all leftists he secretly admires the leaders of America’s enemies.

The Iranians only hope is that Barry fears that his previous indecisiveness made him look weak, and hurt his re-election bid.

Say, is our government providing free copies of our constitution and the federalist papers in farsi and arabic, and if not why not? The people of the middle east have had very little exposure to the ideas of the western world. Maybe now would be a very good time to acquaint them with a new way of thinking.

Iblis on February 15, 2011 at 12:08 AM

And tomorrow, she`ll be cutting the ribbon on a new McDonalds in Thailand!

ThePrez on February 14, 2011 at 7:48 PM

Where?! I know where the golden arches are in Bangkok and Pattaya…

Khun Joe on February 15, 2011 at 12:38 AM

This makes me wish we had Bush in office.

At least he would support the protests in the middle east.

I think if protests continue in the Middle East, you will see Saudi Arabia fall within the next 2 months.

Conservative Samizdat on February 15, 2011 at 2:05 AM

That’s my girl!

dee4hill on February 15, 2011 at 10:30 AM