And this year’s CPAC straw poll winner is … Update: YAF expels Paul from board

posted at 6:00 pm on February 12, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Alternate headline: CPAC straw poll plumbs depths of irrelevance yet again.  How meaningless was the straw poll for preferred GOP presidential nominee?  The bronze-medal winner is Gary Johnson, the libertarian former governor of New Mexico.  That means that the libertarian vote actually got split this year, and wound up taking two out of three spots on the straw poll anyway:

For the second year in a row, Ron Paul won the presidential straw poll at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference, earning 30 percent of the vote.

The Texas congressman, known for his libertarian views, ran for president in 2008 but was never a serious contender for the GOP nomination.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, a 2008 GOP candidate who is expected to run again, came in second place with 23 percent of the vote. Romney won the previous three presidential straw polls before Paul snapped his streak last year. …

Former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie came in a distant third with 6 percent of the vote, followed by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich with 5 percent.

Considering the environment, Romney has to feel pretty good about gaining the silver medal.  After Christie, who’s not running, and Gingrich, who may be, the order of the poll results were:

  • Tim Pawlenty – 4%
  • Michele Bachmann – 4%
  • Mitch Daniels – 4%
  • Sarah Palin – 3%
  • Herman Cain – 2%

Of the five, only Palin didn’t appear at CPAC this year.  Finishing below them were two prominent potential candidates, Rick Santorum and Haly Barbour, who did and finished with 2% and 1% respectively for their efforts. When combining first and second choices, the onlychange in the order is that Bachmann and Pawlenty trade places.

In other straw poll results, a slim majority of straw poll respondents believe that Republican control of Congress will rein in federal spending (51%) and reduce government regulation (50%).  A plurality of 47% believe that the GOP can get Congress to cut federal taxes.  CPAC’s voters are more pessimistic about repealing ObamaCare and paying down the national debt, with a plurality of 40% on each question believing that Congress won’t accomplish either task.

Of course, when Ron Paul and Gary Johnson team up on the dream CPAC ticket, maybe they’ll get a little more optimistic ….

Update: Warner Todd Huston has more.

Update II, 2/13/11: Young Americans for Freedom (not to be confused with Young America’s Foundation) has expelled Ron Paul from their board over his positions on the war and his refusal to distance himself from 9/11 Truthers:

YAF’s concern with Rep. Paul stems from his delusional and disturbing alliance with the fringe Anti-War movement.

“It is a sad day in American history when a one-time conservative-libertarian stalwart has fallen more out of touch with America’s needs for national security than the current feeble and appeasing administration,” said YAF’s Senior National Director Jordan Marks.

Paul, who had served on the YAF Advisory Board for more than two decades, was awarded with YAF’s highest honor, the Guardian of Freedom award, an honor Rep. Paul has touted on his biography for many years. Only a decade ago, Dr. Paul praised YAF’s work on the House floor. Paul called YAF’s founding document, the Sharon Statement “a great document explicating the philosophy of freedom.”

Marks doesn’t pull any punches in his statement, either:

“Rep. Paul’s refusal to support our nation’s military and national security interests border on treason, aside from his failure to uphold his oath to the United States Constitution and defend our country and citizens against all enemies, foreign and domestic,” Marks continued.

“Rep. Paul has strayed to the left of Obama and allied himself with the radical anti-war left by laying the blame on America for the unprovoked attacks of Sept. 11th. Additionally, Rep. Paul has not condemned the 9/11 “Truther” conspiracy theorists that support him, and he has repeatedly insisted, that the United States not bring justice to those who have murdered thousands of our civilians and soldiers at home and abroad. This is simply unacceptable. Clearly Rep. Paul cares more about a doomed presidential run than he does our country,” Marks added.

I didn’t add this to the post yesterday because I didn’t think it amounted to much, except for a chance to beat up Ron Paul a bit.  Commenters have noted the expulsion on other threads, however, and since this post will ride on top for a while, it seemed like a good place to note the expulsion.  It certainly qualifies as a stinging rebuke.


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Ink,

Delivering them to do what, exactly?

G M on February 12, 2011 at 7:07 PM

Baxter Greene:Agreed,glad you said it,ahem!:)

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:06 PM

I feel the need to *shout* Amen to this, and Lutherans never do that during our sermons/homilies.

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 7:08 PM

Our Tea Parties in SD are really plain vanilla normal. We have incredible diversity here but it did not seem at all fractionated into various factions.

I roamed around and chatted it up complimenting people on the creativity of their poster board art. I didn’t see a trace of RP supporters.

There was one nut with a bull horn who dove at the chance to get TV FaceTime. People distanced themselves from him but otherwise I didn’t come away with any sense of embarrassment over the event.

And Paul people are so easy to spot but I didn’t see any. We had PUMAS and BlueDogs too. I spoke with about 50 people and their was a single minded unity over the need for smaller Gubmint.

Geochelone on February 12, 2011 at 7:09 PM

paraff on February 12, 2011 at 6:47 PM

There is only one GOP presidential candidate capable of winning a huge chunk of LIBERTARIAN support besides Ron Paul and that is Sarah Palin.

technopeasant on February 12, 2011 at 7:10 PM

Geochelone on February 12, 2011 at 7:09 PM

From what I understand consider yourself lucky..A lot of TP groups are overrun with Ronulans..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 7:11 PM

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 7:03 PM
============
Ooops.
Please don’t get me wrong.
I love and respect all my brothers and sisters in Christ.

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 7:06 PM

OmahaConservative:Are you anwering yourself!!:)

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:11 PM

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 7:06 PM

no worries…there are some aspects that I miss, but I feel more fulfilled where am I now….the church was elca but moved over to lcmc last year..

cmsinaz on February 12, 2011 at 7:12 PM

Baxter Greene:Agreed,glad you said it,ahem!:)

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:06 PM
======================
I feel the need to *shout* Amen to this, and Lutherans never do that during our sermons/homilies.

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 7:08 PM

OmahaConservative:RP is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay out there!:)

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:13 PM

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:11 PM

Just wanted to clarify for the non-Sacramental evangelical and non-denomination brethren that I love, respect, and consider them part of the fold as well.

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 7:13 PM

I feel the need to *shout* Amen to this, and Lutherans never do that during our sermons/homilies.

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 7:08 PM

amen

:)

cmsinaz on February 12, 2011 at 7:14 PM

hard to believe ROn Paul could go on house floor less than a Month ago and accuse Bush and Company of being War Criminals, a speech that is all over leftist sites and foreign websites

All because he distorts and creates a story out of a Wikileaks for April Gillipsies’s talk with Saddam week before he invaded Kuwait!!!! Ironically all she did was tell saddam, In Ron Paul fashion, that the US had no opinion in his Arab/Arab conflict having zero idea he was about to invade Kuwait of course.

This should be a lesson to ROn Paul on what his style of “nuetrality” produces in a way but of course it does not….and AMAZINGLY he gets away with that speech and less than month later speaking at CPAC and buying a Straw Poll win and news headlines he wants!!!!!

http://wikileaks.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/01/06/why_one_us_diplomat_didnt_cause_the_gulf_war

WAKE UP PEOPLE

jp on February 12, 2011 at 7:15 PM

cmsinaz on February 12, 2011 at 7:12 PM

Aha! So you must belong to Community of Joy. I know your pastor.

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 7:16 PM

There is only one GOP presidential candidate capable of winning a huge chunk of LIBERTARIAN support besides Ron Paul and that is Sarah Palin.

Ok, so you win 100% of the Libertarian vote, what of the roughly 99% of the US population that isn’t Libertarian?

G M on February 12, 2011 at 7:17 PM

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 7:16 PM

why yes I do…i’ll be darn

cmsinaz on February 12, 2011 at 7:17 PM

cmsinaz on February 12, 2011 at 7:17 PM

Very small world, eh darlin’?

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 7:19 PM

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 7:19 PM

indeed :)

cmsinaz on February 12, 2011 at 7:20 PM

Ink,

Delivering them to do what, exactly?

G M on February 12, 2011 at 7:07 PM

Well, balance the Federal budget, for one!

Inkblots on February 12, 2011 at 7:20 PM

cmsinaz on February 12, 2011 at 7:20 PM

Dr. K & I had some communications when you were transitioning out of ELCA.
He is a good man.

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 7:22 PM

this truly is a must see work of misinformation and deceitfulness

now, keep in mind many idiots are listening to him and thinking that what he says is absolute truth. If you believe what Paul says then yes, it would be okay to Call Cheney and Rumsfeld war criminals so no surpise thats what his Cult does

jp on February 12, 2011 at 6:50 PM

If you want truth, as you seem to imply, you need to study his earmarks, who they go to and what they are for. His titles are phony and he LOVES giving away money to those who don’t even need it, his beloved “corporatists”.

If you are not willing to investigate, then you absolutely are afraid of the truth, so STFU and remain ignorant.

Kermit on February 12, 2011 at 7:22 PM

I agree!..and what about the Ronulans?..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 6:41 PM

Yep.
So are his frothing, foaming at the mouth rabid followers…

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 6:43 PM

jp on February 12, 2011 at 6:50 PM

Baxter Greene:Agreed,glad you said it,ahem!:)

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:06 PM

No wonder, he is so enamored with Julian Assange.

fourdeucer on February 12, 2011 at 7:07 PM

Agreed.

Ron Paul allows the left to point at Republicans and chant “look at the crazy right wingers and their wild conspiracy theories”…….you know…while ignoring all the insanity in their own party.

….It’s like having our own Rosie O’donell in the House.

The best thing the great people of Texas could do is vote this guy out so he can continue selling crazy without the elected (R) beside his name.

Baxter Greene on February 12, 2011 at 7:22 PM

This place is hopping for a Saturday evening..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 7:23 PM

WAKE UP PEOPLE

jp on February 12, 2011 at 7:15 PM

Read your posts from earlier today in regards to RP, thanks for all the work you put into it.

fourdeucer on February 12, 2011 at 7:24 PM

Ink,

Like I said before, the majority of youthful Paulbots are excited by his position on drug legalization. Take that out of his platform and most all are back to marathon bong hits in the dorm.

G M on February 12, 2011 at 7:24 PM

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:11 PM
============
Just wanted to clarify for the non-Sacramental evangelical and non-denomination brethren that I love, respect, and consider them part of the fold as well.

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 7:13 PM

OmahaConservative:Just funning with you,btw,I haven`t been
to church for awhile…I believe in,and
their is a God,and after-life,and to be
decent to all,expect those that want to
harm or kill you!:)

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:25 PM

Baxter Greene on February 12, 2011 at 7:22 PM

I am just hoping that Rand stays away from Dad’s policies..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 7:25 PM

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 7:22 PM

yes he is…glad you were there for him…

cmsinaz on February 12, 2011 at 7:25 PM

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 7:11 PM

We have a different demographic here I suppose. What was so interesting and refreshing was to find so many females speaking out. They were the largest group or so it appeared cause of my wandering eyes.

Tons of Asians and Latinos etc. The event was a blast.

Geochelone on February 12, 2011 at 7:26 PM

This place is hopping for a Saturday evening..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 7:23 PM

Dire Straits:No sh*t,I`m gonna pay,waaaay more attention
to CPAC!:)

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:26 PM

We need young people if we’re going to ‘win the future’, and Ron Paul is delivering them.

Inkblots on February 12, 2011 at 7:05 PM

I stand by my words; the “kids” you talk about are flirting with danger. The Know Nothings were a valid part of the political spectrum at one point too. To paraphrase Doc Hudson’s words, if you want to go left, turn hard right.

unclesmrgol on February 12, 2011 at 7:27 PM

Geochelone on February 12, 2011 at 7:26 PM

Sounds good..The Ladies are definitely becoming involved in politics and that is great!..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 7:28 PM

They were the largest group or so it appeared cause of my wandering eyes.

Tons of Asians and Latinos etc. The event was a blast.

Geochelone on February 12, 2011 at 7:26 PM

Geochelone:You are a red-blooded American,*wink-wink*!:)

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:28 PM

That Ru Paul sure is popular

TheBigOldDog on February 12, 2011 at 7:28 PM

just for you DS :)

cmsinaz on February 12, 2011 at 7:30 PM

Geochelone on February 12, 2011 at 7:26 PM
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Sounds good..The Ladies are definitely becoming involved in politics and that is great!..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 7:28 PM

Dire Straits:
====================================================

Looks like there is going to be a Republican
Womens Revolution in November,the SarahCuda
Army continues,uninterrupted,and ever expanding!!

canopfor on June 4, 2010 at 7:29 PM

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:30 PM

I am far from an expert on this RP thing but I can’t say I have ever run into a female RP supporter. Invariably they are male.

Is that what others have observed?

Geochelone on February 12, 2011 at 7:31 PM

Dire Straits:No sh*t,I`m gonna pay,waaaay more attention
to CPAC!:)

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:26 PM

CPAC is great..It can definitely motivate folks (esp. when you have a keynote speaker like Col. West)..We have at least 4 threads going strong..Allah is loving this!..:)

PS..I’m enjoying this myself!..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 7:31 PM

Like I said before, the majority of youthful Paulbots are excited by his position on drug legalization. Take that out of his platform and most all are back to marathon bong hits in the dorm.

G M on February 12, 2011 at 7:24 PM

Interestingly, the young Paul supporters I’ve spoken with were most fired up about repealing the Federal Reserve Act, not drug legalization.

Inkblots on February 12, 2011 at 7:31 PM

That Ru Paul sure is popular

TheBigOldDog on February 12, 2011 at 7:28 PM

TheBigOldDog:Haha,your baaaaaaaaaaaad!!:)

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:31 PM

I am far from an expert on this RP thing but I can’t say I have ever run into a female RP supporter. Invariably they are male.

Is that what others have observed?

Geochelone on February 12, 2011 at 7:31 PM

Yes, the ones I’ve spoken to have all been male.

Inkblots on February 12, 2011 at 7:32 PM

Trump is correct, Ron Paul is unelectable.

royzer on February 12, 2011 at 7:33 PM

Want to win the youth vote? Look to the new grads with the massive student loan debt that can’t find anything beyond a part-time gig for minimum wage and explain how the left helped dig them into that hole.

G M on February 12, 2011 at 7:33 PM

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:26 PM

PS..I’m enjoying this myself!..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 7:31 PM

Dire Straits:(Enjoying)Yup,you know,I can`t see a Liberal
PAC of sorts,with PC,and a lid on ideas!:)

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:35 PM

cmsinaz on February 12, 2011 at 7:30 PM

Good one!..Makes me want to pull out my roller skates and head for the rink..:)

PS..I have that on a 45 LP!..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 7:35 PM

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:25 PM

Calling Dr. Gosnell. Satan wants to speak with you.

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 7:36 PM

I am just hoping that Rand stays away from Dad’s policies..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 7:25 PM

Good point.

That was a major worry for me even though he ran a great campaign.
I was worried that he would get elected and then after about a year come out with some of his dad’s crazy bullsh!t.

Can only hope that this apple fell real far from the tree.

Baxter Greene on February 12, 2011 at 7:37 PM

just for you DS :)

cmsinaz on February 12, 2011 at 7:30 PM

D.S. luvs plaid…

Gohawgs on February 12, 2011 at 7:37 PM

And repealing the federal reserve act would do what exactly?

G M on February 12, 2011 at 7:37 PM

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 7:35 PM

excellent :)

cmsinaz on February 12, 2011 at 7:37 PM

Want to win the youth vote

G M on February 12, 2011 at 7:33 PM

G M:The key to Obama`s 10 Million youth vote,is media
saturations,as Obama went into every media aspect,
even,a message in video-games,as,an example!!

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:38 PM

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:30 PM

The GOP womens army is definitely growing!..It is very good for the GOP that the women ranks are growing..Very good thing!..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 7:38 PM

Can only hope that this apple fell real far from the tree.

Baxter Greene on February 12, 2011 at 7:37 PM

ditto

cmsinaz on February 12, 2011 at 7:38 PM

Dire Straits:(Enjoying)Yup,you know,I can`t see a Liberal
PAC of sorts,with PC,and a lid on ideas!:)

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:35 PM

I agree the liberals have no convention even close to CPAC..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 7:40 PM

Dire Straits:(Enjoying)Yup,you know,I can`t see a Liberal
PAC of sorts,with PC,and a lid on ideas!:)

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:35 PM

It’s called the Folsom St. fair…….
http://www.folsomstreetfair.com/photos/

Baxter Greene on February 12, 2011 at 7:40 PM

Can only hope that this apple fell real far from the tree.

Baxter Greene on February 12, 2011 at 7:37 PM

Amen!..Good post!..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 7:41 PM

just for you DS :)

cmsinaz on February 12, 2011 at 7:30 PM

cmsinaz:My wifes favorite!:)

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:41 PM

Canopfor,

True, but those that have left the lotusland and are struggling to find any viable careers now are finding the Obama kool-aid of 2008 quite bitter now.

G M on February 12, 2011 at 7:42 PM

D.S. luvs plaid…

Gohawgs on February 12, 2011 at 7:37 PM

That song was good roller skating music in the day..Now I would be lucky to make it one loop around the rink..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 7:43 PM

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:35 PM
===============
It’s called the Folsom St. fair…….
http://www.folsomstreetfair.com/photos/

Baxter Greene on February 12, 2011 at 7:40 PM

Baxter Green:Is that the week long,Sodom and Gamorh
ahem,parade,that is blocked off for a week
in San Fransico,that was on Zombie`s web
site!!:)

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:44 PM

Baxter Greene on February 12, 2011 at 7:40 PM

I think the Daily Kooks try to have a convention too!..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 7:45 PM

We have at least 4 threads going strong..Allah is loving this!..:)

PS..I’m enjoying this myself!..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 7:31 PM

I am only active in this thread. I am too tired to play catchup in the others.
It’s almost my bedtime.
I still go to bed early on weekends to stay with the flow.
3 AM comes awful early here.

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 7:46 PM

And repealing the federal reserve act would do what exactly?

G M on February 12, 2011 at 7:37 PM

Well, provided that it is replaced by a system of competitive currencies – a so-call ‘free market in money’ – it would end the insidious and regressive ‘inflation tax’ that steals value from every dollar in your savings account as the national debt is monetized; it would make long-term, structural trade imbalances like our trade deficit with China impossible; and it would make it so that speculative bubbles such as the Tech bubble of the ’90s and the real estate bubble of the ’00s could not become so large.

Inkblots on February 12, 2011 at 7:46 PM

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 7:46 PM

LOL!..We will try to leave the light on for you!..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 7:47 PM

the solution is for CPAC to drop the straw poll. It is just a PR thing anyway…and once you drop it, RP won’t pay for the nuts to come and the whole thing will be more sober

I still think there’s a lot of anarchists/leftists that use this to have some “fun” with conservatives. In the day of LGF, Johnson used to leave his name off polls.

Most of the time sunshine is a good idea, but that’s not the same as give the limelight to cranks and nuts. Just Say No

r keller on February 12, 2011 at 7:47 PM

cmsinaz:My wifes favorite!:)

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:41 PM

excellent…give her a twirl :)

cmsinaz on February 12, 2011 at 7:47 PM

That song was good roller skating music in the day..Now I would be lucky to make it one loop around the rink..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 7:43 PM

Dire Straits:Good lord,yes,I roller skated too,bought
new skates,blazer orange wheels,and hi-
perf sealed bearings,

its a small world,eh,btw,I too was lucky
to go straight,no fancy moves,or,whack,
oucharoo!!!:)

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:48 PM

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:41 PM
—————–
excellent…give her a twirl :)

cmsinaz on February 12, 2011 at 7:47 PM

cmsinaz:LOL:)

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:48 PM

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 7:46 PM

take it easy OC….
——-
hubby going to grill some steaks….catch up with you later :)

cmsinaz on February 12, 2011 at 7:50 PM

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:25 PM
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Calling Dr. Gosnell. Satan wants to speak with you.

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 7:36 PM

OmahaConservative:Hehe,no worries,I was baptized:)

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:50 PM

take it easy OC….
——-
hubby going to grill some steaks….catch up with you later :)

cmsinaz on February 12, 2011 at 7:50 PM

cmsinaz:See ya later,cho!!:)

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:51 PM

its a small world,eh,btw,I too was lucky
to go straight,no fancy moves,or,whack,
oucharoo!!!:)

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:48 PM

same here

cmsinaz on February 12, 2011 at 7:51 PM

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:48 PM

Everyone skated back in the day..It was a great place to meet girls..Now I don’t think no does it..I know my kids didn’t..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 7:51 PM

We love you Ron Paul!

You’re the most dedicated to the Constitution than all the other potential candidates!

iamse7en on February 12, 2011 at 6:02 PM

This post would make a hell of a lot more sense if…

A) it had a /sarc tag at the end of it , or

B) you were referring to his son.

cableguy615 on February 12, 2011 at 7:53 PM

Don’t worry Palinistas, she wasn’t going to run anyway so this doesn’t really matter.

Speedwagon82 on February 12, 2011 at 7:54 PM

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:48 PM

You are right it is a small world..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 7:54 PM

cmsinaz on February 12, 2011 at 7:50 PM

Later..Enjoyed it..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 7:55 PM

Speedwagon82 on February 12, 2011 at 7:54 PM

…gee what a surprise !

Another obsessed troll, making a non-Palin thread about Palin.

You sure told us tool ! *Yawn*

cableguy615 on February 12, 2011 at 7:56 PM

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:48 PM
Everyone skated back in the day..It was a great place to meet girls..Now I don’t think no one does it..I know my kids didn’t..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 7:51 PM

Sorry for the typo!..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 8:01 PM

Voter from WA State on February 12, 2011 at 7:59 PM

If Ron Paul is the nominee in 2012 I will leave the country because there will be nothing left to stay for!..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 8:03 PM

Ink,

I’m not sure where I stand regarding the federal reserve. I need to do more research, however the fact that Paul has occasional moments of non-lunacy does not make him or his movement any less crazy and unelectable.

G M on February 12, 2011 at 8:04 PM

You are right it is a small world..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 7:54 PM

Oh lord, that reminds me of Aneheim.

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 8:04 PM

Party at the Stormfront HQ tonight! Don’t be late.

Hummer53 on February 12, 2011 at 8:08 PM

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:50 PM

No.
The killing part.

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 8:08 PM

So here is my reality show concept:

A replica white house is built on a set. Ron Paul is woken up and told he won the election and is now president. We swear him in and start the “press conference”. Bonus, same story told to Alex Jones, who is “hired” to be his press secretary.

Trainwreck TV at it’s finest.

G M on February 12, 2011 at 6:21 PM

And you haven’t called Mark Burnett yet!

This is winner-winner chicken dinner!

It would be the greatest show ever created!

gary4205 on February 12, 2011 at 8:09 PM

Baptism is good, the Holy Spirit works.

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 8:09 PM

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 8:04 PM

LOL!..I had to endure that ride also..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 8:11 PM

Hummer53 on February 12, 2011 at 8:08 PM

LOL!..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 8:11 PM

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 7:50 PM
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No.
The killing part.

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 8:08 PM

OmahaConsevation:Oh,I was thinking of Jihadys!!:)

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 8:14 PM

I am far from an expert on this RP thing but I can’t say I have ever run into a female RP supporter. Invariably they are male.

Is that what others have observed?

Geochelone on February 12, 2011 at 7:31 PM

Sorry for disappearing but I was enjoying the Saturday night installment of ‘Someone’s poaching our signal again’-anyway-there ARE female Ronulans.
On the TownHall Straw Poll FB page one of them-named ‘Leah’ shrieked at me that I wasn’t a good Catholic because I support Israel and since Israel is an apartheid state the Church doctrine of social justice demands that I sympathize with/support the poor palestinians.

My run-on was entirely intentional.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 12, 2011 at 8:17 PM

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 8:14 PM

What is Dr. Mengele Gosnell?

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 8:17 PM

So here is my reality show concept:

A replica white house is built on a set. Ron Paul is woken up and told he won the election and is now president. We swear him in and start the “press conference”. Bonus, same story told to Alex Jones, who is “hired” to be his press secretary.

Trainwreck TV at it’s finest.

G M on February 12, 2011 at 6:21 PM

Total brilliance!

annoyinglittletwerp on February 12, 2011 at 8:18 PM

Alrighty,me eyes are get`n bug eyed,been on all day,
wife/movie time!

Dire,OC,Baxter Greene,and anyone else i missed,nite all,
it was A Blast——————————–:)

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 8:18 PM

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 8:17 PM

A serial killer..

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 8:19 PM

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 8:14 PM
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What is Dr. Mengele Gosnell?

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 8:17 PM

OmahaConservative:Okay,before I go,

Alex I`ll take,Àngel of Death for $200.00:)

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 8:20 PM

canopfor on February 12, 2011 at 8:18 PM

Later..Enjoyed it my friend..:)

Dire Straits on February 12, 2011 at 8:20 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on February 12, 2011 at 8:17 PM

The very liberal Evangelical Lutheran Church in America is rabidly anti-Israel.
My denomination, The Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod is not. Neither is the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod. Some Lutherans support sodomy and abortion while others don’t.
I’m in the don’t group.

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 8:22 PM

There is only one GOP presidential candidate capable of winning a huge chunk of LIBERTARIAN support besides Ron Paul and that is Sarah Palin.

technopeasant on February 12, 2011 at 7:10 PM

True dat!

Sadly, a lot of the rabid Paultards attack her too.

You ever heard Alex Jones go off on her?

She’s not just a Bilderberg, but the head dog there! She runs the entire world from Wasilla!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!!!

If that idiot didn’t have so many people that actually believed him, it would be hilarious.

The Ronulans and the Jones bunch are some scary people

gary4205 on February 12, 2011 at 8:23 PM

gary, annoyinglittletwerp

Thanks!

G M on February 12, 2011 at 8:26 PM

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 8:22 PM

I spent time in the LCMS-I’ve spent time in quiet a few christian denominations-and they were/are good people.

Btw: Are you familiar with the Lutheran Church of the Reformation? The LCR broke off from LCMS becuase they thought the LCMS was becoming corrupted by man or something.

I have a friend who is LCR and she’s great but her parents are RABIDLY anti-Catholic and anti-Jewish. She doesn’t like to discuss it with me-for obvious reasons-but it seems that the LCR takes the view that since Luther didn’t like Jews or Catholic neither should any other ‘good’ Christian.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 12, 2011 at 8:31 PM

annoyinglittletwerp is a Lutheran’s kissing first cousin. A Jewish Roman Catholic gal.
;)

OmahaConservative on February 12, 2011 at 8:31 PM

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