U.S. Director of National Intelligence: The Muslim Brotherhood is … “largely secular”; Update: Video added; Update: MSNBC analyst in disbelief; Update: Clapper’s office “clarifies”
posted at 2:30 pm on February 10, 2011 by Allahpundit
I’m looking for video (Megyn Kelly played a bit of it a little while ago) but for now Politico’s write-up will have to do. Remember this guy? He was the one who got the deer-in-the-headlights look back in December when Diane Sawyer asked what he thought of the London terror plot that had been busted a few hours earlier. His office said afterward that he hadn’t been briefed on it because he was tied up all day with the Korean standoff. Fair enough.
What’s the excuse this time?
In response to questioning from Rep. Sue Myrick (R-N.C.) about the threat posed by the group, Clapper suggested that the Egyptian part of the Brotherhood is not particularly extreme and that the broader international movement is hard to generalize about.
“The term ‘Muslim Brotherhood’…is an umbrella term for a variety of movements, in the case of Egypt, a very heterogeneous group, largely secular, which has eschewed violence and has decried Al Qaeda as a perversion of Islam,” Clapper said. “They have pursued social ends, a betterment of the political order in Egypt, et cetera…..In other countries, there are also chapters or franchises of the Muslim Brotherhood, but there is no overarching agenda, particularly in pursuit of violence, at least internationally.”
The Brotherhood uses the slogan, “Islam is the answer,” and generally advocates for government in accordance with Islamic principles. The movement has as a broad goal unifying what it perceives as Muslim lands, from Spain to Indonesia, as a “caliphate.”
Walid Phares reacted in disbelief when Kelly read him the quote on Fox; I’m told that when Richard Engel heard it on MSNBC, he called it a “head-snap moment” and proceeded to debunk it straightaway. (Hoping to get video of that, too.) This isn’t the first time an administration advisor has tried to whitewash the Brotherhood recently either. Bruce Riedel, who chaired the 2009 review of AfPak policy for the White House, was urging Daily Beast readers not to fear the Brotherhood all the way back on day three of the protests, before they had even broken really big yet. I warned you the next day that we’d be seeing more of that as Mubarak lost his grip: If, as it appears, regime change and democracy are a fact of life, the White House will want to make them seem as innocuous as possible to blunt any “who lost Egypt?” voter backlash here. And now here’s our very own DNI spinning like a gyroscope.
Read Tom Joscelyn’s response to Riedel about the Brotherhood as a corrective to Clapper’s comments. You’ll be pleased to know that this isn’t the only whitewash on the wires either: WaPo has an op-ed today from a member of the Brotherhood itself insisting that his group and the west needn’t be enemies. Although, interestingly, even he can’t quite bring himself to repeat Clapper’s falsehood:
Because we are an Islamic movement and the vast majority of Egypt is Muslim, some will raise the issue of sharia law. While this is not on anyone’s immediate agenda, it is instructive to note that the concept of governance based on sharia is not a theocracy for Sunnis since we have no centralized clergy in Islam. For us, Islam is a way of life adhered to by one-fifth of the world’s population. Sharia is a means whereby justice is implemented, life is nurtured, the common welfare is provided for, and liberty and property are safeguarded. In any event, any transition to a sharia-based system will have to garner a consensus in Egyptian society.
Exit question from John Pohoretz: Time for Clapper to go?
Update: Here’s the vid. Click the image to watch.
Update: And here’s the clip I mentioned earlier of Engel, who’s spoken to members of the Brotherhood many times. He calls Clapper’s remarks a “complete misreading” of the movement. Click the image to watch.
Update: His office had a few hours to put some spin together, annnnnnd here’s what they came up with:
Jamie Smith, director of the office of public affairs for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence later said in a statement to ABC News: “To clarify Director Clapper’s point – in Egypt the Muslim Brotherhood makes efforts to work through a political system that has been, under Mubarak’s rule, one that is largely secular in its orientation – he is well aware that the Muslim Brotherhood is not a secular organization.”
That’s from Tapper, who merrily piles on with a few quotes reminding readers of just how anti-secular the Brotherhood is.











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Muslim Brotherhood? Whatever their political viewpoints (we can all hazard a few guesses) calling them secular is pretty dumb.
It’s right there. In their name. Imposible to miss
DrAllecon on February 10, 2011 at 3:11 PM
Mr. Clapper probably agrees that female mutilation is just another benefit of the Sharia health care program.
fourdeucer on February 10, 2011 at 3:11 PM
The POTUS does not see the MB as a threat to America…
d1carter on February 10, 2011 at 3:11 PM
In less than 2 years,which is the length of Obama`s
experience,
i will speak in Harry Reids voice,
Obama,THE MIDDLE EAST IS LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!
canopfor on February 10, 2011 at 3:12 PM
A massively dangerous idiot.
rrpjr on February 10, 2011 at 3:12 PM
Maybe, in Obama doublespeak “intelligence” means something different?
Fallon on February 10, 2011 at 3:13 PM
If Obama had been around back then, he would have reassured us: “Don’t worry; the Soviet Union is a largely religious organization.” And the liberal media would have spun that just as easily.
That’s the way all propaganda propaganda works. It’s SUPPOSED to be as insanely nonsensical as possible. That’s not a bug; it’s a feature.
If liberals said something that made sense, but then slipped in one tiny falsehood, it would be easy to rationally destroy their arguments. But when they constantly say the most insanely idiotic things imaginable, it’s impossible to contradict them without saying something that can be painted as a “personal” attack.
logis on February 10, 2011 at 3:13 PM
There is no energy crisis
There is no health care crisis.
There is no food crisis
There is however,
A LEADERSHIP CRISIS,ignorance this profound is one small part of it.
HE SHOULD BE LAUGHED OUT OF THE HALLS OF POWER.
dentalque on February 10, 2011 at 3:14 PM
Ohhhhhhh….yeaaaaaaaaaa
Just a bunch of secular guys wanting peace and love:
Muslim Brotherhood text reveals scope of radical creed
By OREN KESSLER
02/09/2011 02:09
Translated by Palestinian Media Watch, book details group’s goal of global Islamic conquest.
http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=207415
…their goal is to establish a new muslim caliphate and destroy anyone who would stand in their way of doing this.
….so apparently liberals see no problem with this at all, but if these guys yelled “Merry Christmas” or wanted to put a cross on public property…..liberals would be out in the streets raising he!! and yelling about “those crazy religious freaks “forcing their religion on everyone”……
Typical liberal pretzel logic….
Baxter Greene on February 10, 2011 at 3:14 PM
Sir Napsalot on February 10, 2011 at 3:15 PM
“Secular” your say? Clapper is a moronic ass.
rplat on February 10, 2011 at 3:15 PM
“Don’t run, we are your friends!”
dkmonroe on February 10, 2011 at 3:15 PM
You are right on target as usual Canopfor.
Baxter Greene on February 10, 2011 at 3:16 PM
To quote Oogey Boogey from “Nightmare Before Christmas”,
tree hugging sister on February 10, 2011 at 3:16 PM
Suggesting that Obama be laughed out of power misses the point: He is acting intentionally to destroy the United States, which he hates.
GaltBlvnAtty on February 10, 2011 at 3:18 PM
BobMbx on February 10, 2011 at 3:19 PM
How dim could a dhimmi be if a dhimmi could be dim?
Wait, don’t answer that…
Bruno Strozek on February 10, 2011 at 3:21 PM
This guy is one of the most competent guys in the Obama administration – let’s not get rid of him. The box is full of completely dark bulbs if we do that!!
HondaV65 on February 10, 2011 at 3:24 PM
d1carter on February 10, 2011 at 3:24 PM
Exactly.
Cindy Cooper on February 10, 2011 at 3:25 PM
“If you like your clitoris, you can keep your clitoris”
G M on February 10, 2011 at 3:28 PM
OR, he does and thinks …
well, that’s pretty much unspeakable…but not impossible.
Cindy Cooper on February 10, 2011 at 3:28 PM
Yup,SUPERIOR NON-FIRING BRAIN POWER!!!!!!!!!!!
***********************************************
canopfor on February 10, 2011 at 3:08 PM
You are right on target as usual Canopfor.
Baxter Greene on February 10, 2011 at 3:16 PM
Baxter Greene:What a Clusterfark Operation!!:)
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The Egypt Unrest: Full Coverage
http://www.stratfor.com/theme/egypt-unrest
canopfor on February 10, 2011 at 3:29 PM
Our government and elected representatives on both sides think that we, the people, are stupid. Ha! (well, perhaps
20% of us are)…..They will see in 2012 how stupid we are!
We need to start backing Palin – she is the only one with the record, business experience, background of ethical reform, government experience at 3 levels and the brains, guts and determination to tackle this mess.
And those of you who are trying to prop up the squishy repubs, Romney, Pawlenty,Thune, Daniels, Barbour, etc. please leave it for another election, after this country is cleaned up and put on the right track. We need a leader
who will challenge the status quo.
Amjean on February 10, 2011 at 3:31 PM
These are his experts in Foreign Affairs? No wonder King Abdullah thinks he can boss Scooter around.
kingsjester on February 10, 2011 at 3:32 PM
Well, if by “secular” you mean a fundamentalist Islamic organization devoted to spreading the rule of Islam across the globe by force … then yeah, they’re secular.
j_galt on February 10, 2011 at 3:32 PM
Muslim Brotherhood Fact Sheet
The Brotherhood supports Female Genital Mutilation: “[the Americans] wage war on Muslim leaders, the traditions of its faith and its ideas. They even wage war against female circumcision, a practice current in 36 countries, which has been prevalent since the time of the Pharaohs.” —Former Muslim Brotherhood Supreme Guide Muhammed Mahdi Akef, 2007[17]
From The Muslim Brotherhood Fact Sheet at
http://www.standwithus.com/app/iNews/view_n.asp?ID=1757
fourdeucer on February 10, 2011 at 3:33 PM
The One and his Clapper forgot to read this little snipet of history…..after all, it is common knowledge, easily researched.
norm1111 on February 10, 2011 at 3:33 PM
“Exit question from John Pohoretz: Time for Clapper to go?”
It shouldn’t be a question. Clapper is either a liar toting Obama’s line because he is too cowardly to resign, or he’s rock stupid.
Congress needs to weigh in here, despite the instability of the situation, if only enough to telegraph that the subject will come up soon after things settle down.
If things settle down.
Dusty on February 10, 2011 at 3:35 PM
Who is this Clapper fellow anyway? What are his politics… left I know, but how left? Because this is just nonsense.
petunia on February 10, 2011 at 3:35 PM
Let’s review.
Democracy means voting in an Islamic state
Freedom means freeedom to practice Islam/Sharia
Secular means Islamic fascism.
ORconservative on February 10, 2011 at 3:37 PM
I think I finally understand why guys wince and cringe at Bobbitt jokes.
Fallon on February 10, 2011 at 3:38 PM
The “smart” ones are at war with each other.
Schadenfreude on February 10, 2011 at 3:39 PM
Egypt unrest: Higher Military Council statement
10 February 2011 Last updated at 11:55 ET
Egypt’s Higher Military Council said it was in a state of continuous session to protect the nation and meet the aspirations of the people.
===========================
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12417914
canopfor on February 10, 2011 at 3:40 PM
Interesting interview: NRO’s Katheryn Jean Lopez interviews Islamic expert Barry Rubin:
aquaviva on February 10, 2011 at 3:41 PM
Egypt: The Rebirth of a Great Nation
Egypt and the World wait for an address from President Mubarak..
Mubarak out? World waits for speech
Mubarak on the brink of departure new
======================================
http://www.egyptdailynews.com/
canopfor on February 10, 2011 at 3:41 PM
Grow fins drops steaming pile of bigotry and stupidity then sits back and laughs as the reaction he wanted is achieved.
Hard Right on February 10, 2011 at 3:42 PM
The guy is piping what Obama tells him. Obama’s an MB man. He’s in their corner and think their agenda is cool. He screws us over, screws Israel over to set the table for MB. So, this DNI is just parroting the twaddle Obama has fed him. They’re a bunch of unthinking morons in the Obama administration. Not a brain cell amongst all those Ivy League Elite PhDs.
SilentWatcher on February 10, 2011 at 3:49 PM
And the Southern Baptist Convention is a weekend book club.
catmman on February 10, 2011 at 3:51 PM
Doesn’t sound like he’s stepping down anytime soon.
CTSherman on February 10, 2011 at 3:51 PM
NBC’s Engel also said that Clapper’s remarks were “terrifying”
aquaviva on February 10, 2011 at 3:53 PM
This imbecile needs to resign. But, the Prime imbecile will replace him with another, equally imbecilic, imbecile.
Demosthenes on February 10, 2011 at 3:53 PM
I am speechless at this foolishness.
rockmom on February 10, 2011 at 3:55 PM
Sarah Palin’s remarks on the Muslim Brotherhood (from the same interview as the Santorum:
HANNITY: Governor, I didn’t ask you yet about Egypt and that would be negligence if I did not. My biggest concern governor is the president and the White House now have said that they’ve got to reconsider their relationship with the Muslim brotherhood. Their desire is for an Islamic caliphate, their desire is for Sharia law, they’ve been involved in assassinations, they have supported extremist organizations. It appears that even Egypt has accepted the notion that they will be part of any new government that emerges. How dangerous is that when you couple it with all the other countries, Jordan and surrounding countries now Indonesia and Tunisia, in the problems we see in rising Islamic radicalism?
PALIN: The Muslim brotherhood as they believe in a caliphate is a big problem. And I think it should give us all great pause to hear officials in our own nation believing that the Muslim brotherhood should be given a seat at the table and hear their ideas for democracy. Does the Muslim brotherhood really truly sincerely believe in freedoms and women rights, human rights? Do they believe in freedom of religion or do they believe in cramming down someone’s throat their own religious beliefs? And if you won’t buy into them, you will beheaded? Now, if that what’s part of the Muslim brotherhood’s mission, then for shame that the U.S. government would believe that they can be embraced and still bring those who desire freedom and democracy down a road towards democracy.
HANNITY: The president was given an opportunity to speak out against them and he passed.
PALIN: Right.
HANNITY: What do you make of that?
PALIN: He sure did. He passed and that was a lost opportunity. And again, gives me, gives so many other people great pause, when we are trying to figure out what is it that our president stands for and stands with? If he could be strong with the steal is fine, like Reagan was and let us know candidly, honestly, sincerely, what do you think of the Muslim brotherhood? What do you think of Sharia law? What do you think of Muslim extremists? Islamic extremists when they won’t even use the term Islamic extremist anymore. What do you think that their desire is for Israel, for America, for other freedom loving democratic loving countries that would seek peace in this world?
Fallon on February 10, 2011 at 3:55 PM
If I am understanding the translator of Hosni’s statement anywhere nearly right…I do believe that the S is about to HTF in Cairo.
LegendHasIt on February 10, 2011 at 3:56 PM
I like how they cut Engel off for a few moments after he started going negative on Clapper. Guess Andrea figured it looked bad so she switched back to him.
andy85719 on February 10, 2011 at 3:57 PM
Wow. Just when you think the Obami Administration can’t screw up any more than they already, they manage to do so again.
If these people are the ‘smartest’ people in the room, then we are screwed.
Lance Murdock on February 10, 2011 at 3:58 PM
Great to have a muslim king around to moderate Obama….
the_nile on February 10, 2011 at 3:58 PM
Andrea Mitchell went to UPenn, therefore, she is smarter then everyone else, it’s been proven by science!!!!
/lots of s
Lance Murdock on February 10, 2011 at 3:59 PM
Me too. It’s simply stunning. Does he actually expect us to believe a secular group adopted the slogan “Islam is the answer?”
flyfisher on February 10, 2011 at 4:00 PM
He almost overrun their fact quota for the year there.
the_nile on February 10, 2011 at 4:01 PM
Sure appears that way. I wonder what Obongo thought of his firm statement that he would not be told what to do by outsiders, regardless of who they are.
flyfisher on February 10, 2011 at 4:02 PM
And the Vatican is mostly secular.
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Does the bear crap in the woods ?
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esblowfeld on February 10, 2011 at 4:03 PM
Fallen. I only wish Palin were more well-spoken. Her ideas are right, but sometimes, as I read her transcripts, they get muddied coming out of her mouth. Perhaps she should take a public speaking class. This is no put down, I just think if her words were crisper, cleaner, she would be more compelling. Same goes for O, but since he’s liberal and talks about hope, it doesn’t seem to matter to the media. Then again, even if her words were crisp, folks like Andrea would still trash her. On second thought, maybe she should save her money.
andy85719 on February 10, 2011 at 4:03 PM
Uh huh… and an American organization called “The Christian Brotherhood” would be regarded as secular, too, right?
princetrumpet on February 10, 2011 at 4:04 PM
Is it okay to start making comparisons of the Muslim Brotherhood to Hitler and the Natzis yet?
Count to 10 on February 10, 2011 at 4:08 PM
the MSM is garbage.
moonbatkiller on February 10, 2011 at 4:10 PM
Engel will be out of a job by the end of next week.
Wait for it…
Shiny_Tiara on February 10, 2011 at 4:11 PM
It’s probably all he knows.
As of the time I retired from one of the intelligence agencies in 2004, US intelligence did little or no study of the religious aspects of any society or country. I never saw an intelligence document with any reference to Muslim or Islam (or Hindu or Christian for that matter). Surely there must have been some such research going on somewhere but I always thought that there was an extreme deference to the idea of the separation of church and state in our government which prevented it. One simply did not study or investigate the religious aspects of anything while working in the government.
I would have thought that in the years since then the intelligence community would have picked up on the need for studying the Islamic foundations of organizations such as the Muslim Brotherhood. But perhaps that has never happened. It sounds like Clapper is only informed on those (relatively minor) secular aspects of the Muslim Brotherhood— which would be in keeping with the analyses of the intelligence community I knew a decade ago.
mjzman on February 10, 2011 at 4:13 PM
Muslim Brotherhood…just another do good group…
right2bright on February 10, 2011 at 4:13 PM
U.S. Director of National Intelligence: The Muslim Brotherhood is … “largely secular”
Where does this fool get his information?
GFW on February 10, 2011 at 4:17 PM
So ok, who is the guy whose ski trip could not be interrupted?
Sir Napsalot on February 10, 2011 at 4:17 PM
If they’re a secular organization, why are they called the “Muslim” Brotherhood?
theCork on February 10, 2011 at 4:17 PM
Since the left might as well be the Soviet Union in regards to who they back I have no doubt that the precipitous fall of Mubarak to the leftist choice will be he wrong one
Iraq, the left backs Iran an al Qaeda one way or another since they certainly didn’t support the Iraqis
Honduras, the commies support the man who tries to appoint himself prez for life
Iran, the population gets screwed in the election and the commies support amadinijad jacoff and the mullahs
ther is no doubt bama snd company want radicals in charge
Sonosam on February 10, 2011 at 4:19 PM
WOW, Don’t I feel silly. I thought they were a Christian organization.
toongoon on February 10, 2011 at 4:25 PM
I think even the audience of The View must think Clapper’s an idiot.
The return of the “security moms”?
BuckeyeSam on February 10, 2011 at 4:27 PM
Doesn’t this sound like he memorized something off of Wikipedia or something? That clapper, himself, doesn’t have a clue.
MaggiePoo on February 10, 2011 at 4:27 PM
The Royal Order of the Moose = The “Mooselim” Brotherhood according to Claptrapper.
chickasaw42 on February 10, 2011 at 4:28 PM
BTW: Has Clapper been tested for dementia? He comes across as clueless on too many critical occasions.
BuckeyeSam on February 10, 2011 at 4:28 PM
Clapper is in D-NI-al.
/see what i did there?
Ward Cleaver on February 10, 2011 at 4:30 PM
Clap on, Clap off
falderal on February 10, 2011 at 4:31 PM
The alligator is a friendly creature, and eats only lilypads.
Ward Cleaver on February 10, 2011 at 4:32 PM
Although an easy target for jokes, this man isn’t funny he is scary.
Mason on February 10, 2011 at 4:33 PM
This fits in with my theory that the left is completely detaching from reality and replacing it with pure propaganda.
We can’t jump to conclusions about The Ft. Hood shooter, Palin and others on the right had a secret mind-meld with the Arizona shooter, Reagan destroyed the American economy, and we mustn’t profile or pigeonhole the nice people of the Muslim Brotherhood.
Post modern performance art has become real life.
Django on February 10, 2011 at 4:35 PM
Hey, these guys are just Community Organizers on a large scale.
Is it any wonder that Obama has is sympathetic with the ‘Muslim Brotherhood’ objectives to change the government?
Uniblogger on February 10, 2011 at 4:41 PM
U.S. Director of National IntelligenceThis explains a LOT. We are so screwed.MikeA on February 10, 2011 at 4:42 PM
Hit the key too soon…correction folows:
Hey, these guys are just Community Organizers on a large scale.
Is it any wonder that Obama
hasis sympathetic with the ‘Muslim Brotherhood’ objectives to change the government?Uniblogger on February 10, 2011 at 4:43 PM
Smart Powe……oh wait, never mind
lahlon on February 10, 2011 at 4:43 PM
Okay, that’s it… Clap off!
(rats, beaten by a few minutes)
drunyan8315 on February 10, 2011 at 4:45 PM
Unhinged predictable left wing unintelligent knee jerk drivel at 2:38 PM…
Midas on February 10, 2011 at 4:48 PM
These morons are starting to believe their own lies.
toongoon on February 10, 2011 at 4:51 PM
Here are our choices:
“If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a Muslim face – forever.”
or:
“If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Muslim boot stamping on a human face – forever.”
History is asking us to take our pick.
Akzed on February 10, 2011 at 4:52 PM
I think it’s time the MSM found out, exactly, what room was being referred to.
Romper?
Bath?
Green?
I think its been proven these are off the list:
Oval
War
Situation
Press
Lunch
BobMbx on February 10, 2011 at 4:59 PM
Mr.Bush, your country needs you. . . .
karra on February 10, 2011 at 5:05 PM
From his smiling ever helpful and indispensable Muslim advisers/handlers. Important Americans don’t have time to find things out for themselves about what makes the little brown folks tick so it is farmed out to helper Muslims to explain the mysteries of Islam. It is like that top to bottom in Americas institutions. Who do you think taught W everything he knew about the awesomeness of Islam? Any GOP presidential candidates know anything about Islam? No? So how do you expect to handle this?
BL@KBIRD on February 10, 2011 at 5:10 PM
Claptrap…
Fallon on February 10, 2011 at 5:11 PM
Clapper: National Football League? Sure I know it. It’s a sporting league that comprises men and women who like to play golf and basketball.
angryed on February 10, 2011 at 5:27 PM
The left supports radical Islam because radical Islam has long adopted socialism.
On the other hand, the left undercuts the nation of Columbia at every juncture (especially opposing a free trade agreement) because they fight the FARC (communist rebels).
theCork on February 10, 2011 at 5:39 PM
Obama has a reason for having this 21st century Neville Chamberlain as his National Security Director. What is it?
maryo on February 10, 2011 at 5:48 PM
Ok, I should have said National Intelligence Director, but how can one write of him and intelligence in the same sentence unless it is to contrast the two?
maryo on February 10, 2011 at 5:52 PM
Clapped out. Seriously, is he ill? Early Alzheimer’s?
theCork on February 10, 2011 at 6:22 PM
special report showing this mess….
where’s the bus?
cmsinaz on February 10, 2011 at 6:25 PM
Muslim brotherhood IS no different than the nazis in 1938 Germany. These filthy lying scum murdered Anwar Sadat and were behind Mohammed Atta. ANYONE that would trust these sub-human vermin fit the dictionary definition of “useful idiot”.
bannedbyhuffpo on February 10, 2011 at 7:03 PM
Obama and his administration will go down in history as the most incompetent in our nation’s history Clapper wouldn’t be the National Intelligence Officer if he was really qualified. Obama is in so far over his head that he is a constant danger to the country and our allies. Those who have met Obama on the world stage see him as a narcisstic laughingstock.
volsense on February 10, 2011 at 7:16 PM
Obama Administration: winning the future for the Muslim Brotherhood?
seriously freaky.
TN Mom on February 10, 2011 at 7:23 PM
ClapperCrapper.In the… mentally.
profitsbeard on February 10, 2011 at 7:23 PM
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