Muslim Brotherhood: We’re totally not interested in a religious state

posted at 8:41 pm on February 9, 2011 by Allahpundit

They’ve been waiting 80 years to take power, but now, on the brink of seeing the guy who’s had his boot on their neck overthrown, they’ve decided, “Hey, no biggie.”

Okay then.

“The Muslim Brotherhood are not seeking power,” Mohammed Morsi, a member of the group’s media office, said at a Cairo news conference. “We want to participate, not to dominate. We will not have a presidential candidate, we want to participate and help, we are not seeking power.”…

“We reject the religious state,” said Mohammed Katatny, former head of the Muslim Brotherhood’s parliamentary bloc…

Morsi also gave assurances that the peace treaty Egypt signed with Israel will remain intact, though he said the Brotherhood questioned why the Palestinians have yet to gain a sovereign homeland.

The man to read on this is Lee Smith, who has a piece in Tablet today about the potential for a Khomeini-esque return to Egypt from Qatar by the Brotherhood’s “spiritual leader,” Yusuf al-Qaradawi. I’ve already explained why they don’t necessarily need a parliamentary majority to push parts of their agenda; democracy is their vehicle of legitimacy, so they’ll rely on public referendums for the more popular aspects of their platform, i.e. the anti-Israeli measures. Qaradawi, who’s endorsed suicide bombings against Israelis and is famous for his chat show on Al Jazeera, could prove hugely useful to them in building support for their program among Egyptian voters.

The problem for the Brotherhood isn’t gaining a parliamentary majority, it’s figuring out a way to keep the Egyptian army from cracking heads if/when their Islamist agenda becomes too inconvenient for the military’s own purposes. In fact, the AP is describing the rise of Omar Suleiman and several other ex-military officers to ministerial positions as a “soft coup” by the army while Mubarak twists in the wind. And the soft coup might be merely the prelude to a hard one:

Vice President Omar Suleiman, a former army general and chief of intelligence, issued a veiled threat that the army could go even further. He warned that an outright coup could take place if the protests by tens of thousands continue in Cairo’s central Tahrir Square.

It was a strong hint that the military could move to impose martial law and snuff out the protests, which have grown since Jan. 25, demanding the ouster of President Hosni Mubarak and the implementation of sweeping democratic reforms…

The mention of a coup left the circle of editors in stunned silence, media reports of the meeting said.

He told reporters that he foresaw “the dark bats of the night emerging to terrorize the people” if they don’t calm down, which probably explains why the State Department held a conference call today to make sure everyone understands that they’ve never said Suleiman was the right man to succeed Mubarak. As the protests turn into strikes, further paralyzing the Egyptian economy, we’re inching closer to a Suleiman-run crackdown that some observers already regard as inevitable. Which is bad news for the Brotherhood, given Suleiman’s longstanding antipathy to them, but bad news for a lot of well intentioned Egyptians too.

Speaking of which, here’s Wael Ghonim, the Google exec who was blindfolded and held for 12 days in solitary confinement after the protests broke out and who’s now emerged as a leader after his release galvanized demonstrators in Tahrir Square. He says a lot of people are prepared to die for the cause. Suleiman might test them on that.


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BS. I ain’t bitin’.

ladyingray on February 9, 2011 at 8:44 PM

I had to read that headline twice.
You lie.

But then again, that is what they do best. Well, maybe not best.

ORconservative on February 9, 2011 at 8:45 PM

They’ve been found out. It’s a Hudna.

katy on February 9, 2011 at 8:45 PM

Muslim Brotherhood: We’re totally not interested in a religious state
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Well,I do wonder when the Muslim Brotherhood gives up
on talking,and the suicide Ka-Blewys begin!!

canopfor on February 9, 2011 at 8:46 PM

Like anything a muslim I would believe?
I believe actions.
And it is clear these people desire a worldwide caliphate.

Badger40 on February 9, 2011 at 8:47 PM

All Koranic evidence to the contrary.

Let’s face it, if you haven’t been to see the pyramids, you ain’t goin’.

In fact, depending upon how talibanic these fine, upstanding individuals wind up being, we’ll be lucky if they don’t destroy the damned things.

turfmann on February 9, 2011 at 8:47 PM

They’re parsing words. They don’t want a “state”. They want islamic anarchy.

SouthernGent on February 9, 2011 at 8:48 PM

Sure. All they want is one man, one vote.

One time.

SlaveDog on February 9, 2011 at 8:50 PM

If you have 40 minutes, watch this expose of how the Muslim Brotherhood really have no desire for a religious state and all they really want is peace.
/////////////////////////

http://www.therightscoop.com/glenn-beck-show-feb-7-2011

katy on February 9, 2011 at 8:51 PM

Hmmmmm, let’s do a poll.

Let’s ask these guys.

Okay, how about them?

These nice folks?

I think it’s unanimous

Sekhmet on February 9, 2011 at 8:51 PM

This is an acceptable lie in teh Muslim faith. It is used to advance the cause of Islam. I’ll have to look it up, I forget what the it’s called… if someone knows… please share it.

CynicalOptimist on February 9, 2011 at 8:51 PM

They look just like a rapist at a jury trial. Nice new suit, haircut, new shoes.

Limerick on February 9, 2011 at 8:54 PM

Anjem Choudary Muslim Brotherhood “One Sick Miserable Evil SOB” Hannity
****************

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6qPZwpi8gw

canopfor on February 9, 2011 at 8:54 PM

They’ve been found out. It’s a Hudna. – Katy

Give that girl CIIII-gaaaarrrrr!

Tony737 on February 9, 2011 at 8:56 PM

Muslim Brotherhood text reveals scope of radical creed

Translated by Palestinian Media Watch,

book details group’s goal of global Islamic conquest.
Feb 9 2011
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http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=207415

canopfor on February 9, 2011 at 8:57 PM

Yeah, suddenly, they renounce the very doctrine they exist for. The Jerusalem Post’s story translating their mission makes clear they are positioning themselves for a future fight–and ‘fight’ in the sense they mean to use deadly force.
The goal being a global caliphate. Rich Lowry at National Review and Bill Kristol at The Weekly Standard as well as other conservatives owe Glenn Beck an apology.

cartooner on February 9, 2011 at 8:58 PM

Per Drudge: Saudi’s told BHO to back Mubarak or they would…

d1carter on February 9, 2011 at 8:58 PM


… Mohammed Morsi …

Ed’s Egyptian cousin?

Tony737 on February 9, 2011 at 8:59 PM

They’ve been found out. It’s a Hudna.

katy on February 9, 2011 at 8:45 PM

katy: Exactly!:)

canopfor on February 9, 2011 at 8:59 PM

CynicalOptimist on February 9, 2011 at 8:51 PM

To lie in order to preserve the advancement of Islam.

“Takeyya”

http://www.islamreview.com/articles/lying.shtml

katy on February 9, 2011 at 8:59 PM

I believe them and here’s why. They may be able to recite the Koran from start to finish, but what do they know about governance? They can’t fix food prices. They can’t keep the water running or the lights on. What would Mohammad say about any of that stuff? They don’t want the responsibility because the next time around it will be them being run out of the country.

They know how this story ends.

Greek Fire on February 9, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Ok, everybody put on the History Channel!

Time for their special on REAGAN!

Tony737 on February 9, 2011 at 9:00 PM

It’s OK to lie to you infidels.

Kini on February 9, 2011 at 9:01 PM

Of course they don’t want a religious state. They want the whole world in a religious Caliphate. If they stop at just a state it may take them another 80 years to get to that goal as people would see what kind of state it would be and it would not be a utopia. So it would be lost for a generation.

tjexcite on February 9, 2011 at 9:02 PM

Oh please. Who believes this? Taqiyya…

alwaysfiredup on February 9, 2011 at 9:02 PM

To lie in order to preserve the advancement of Islam.

“Takeyya”

http://www.islamreview.com/articles/lying.shtml

katy on February 9, 2011 at 8:59 PM

katy:Nailed to a “T”,and for some reason,sounds like the
Liberal Party too!!:)

canopfor on February 9, 2011 at 9:05 PM

The clown,in the interview was a good act,until he started
fake crying,about the loss of life!!

canopfor on February 9, 2011 at 9:08 PM

Oh please. Who believes this? Taqiyya…

alwaysfiredup on February 9, 2011 at 9:02 PM

And tacky taqiyya at that.

Sekhmet on February 9, 2011 at 9:08 PM

They sound like reasonable men.

Then again I’ve been loading on scotch tonight and everything is sounding just fine.

Bishop on February 9, 2011 at 9:09 PM

Muslim Brotherhood: We’re totally not interested in a religious state

“Takeyya”

http://www.islamreview.com/articles/lying.shtml

katy on February 9, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Thanks katy…

… but I can’t help feeling that I have heard this all before.

Oh, wait!

Seven Percent Solution on February 9, 2011 at 9:13 PM

Per Drudge: Saudi’s told BHO to back Mubarak or they would…

d1carter on February 9, 2011 at 8:58 PM

And how does Iran feel about all that?

Islam abhors a power vacuum. And the Empty-Suit-In-Chief is providing a WHOLE lot of that — and randomly poking a rhetorical stick into the mix every once in a while.

What could possibly go wrong?

logis on February 9, 2011 at 9:13 PM

Muslim Brotherhood: We’re totally not interested in a religious state.

== equals ==

Anna Nicole Smith: I am so totally in love with sexy handsome 99-year-old husband.

cableguy615 on February 9, 2011 at 9:14 PM

MB=Massive B@llsh!t.

AZCON on February 9, 2011 at 9:15 PM

No, really. They aren’t interested in a RELIGIOUS state.

They are intent on making a Mohammedan jihadist cult WORLD.

Nothing religious about it.

LegendHasIt on February 9, 2011 at 9:20 PM

Well, all I’d like to say about this is that Glenn Beck has shown himself to trend ahead of the curve, once again, in his analysis and commentary on Egypt. This time, his victory was spectacular. A couple of weeks ago, they were calling him a conspiracy theorist. Now they take what he said then as today’s news.

Beck is driving the MSM into facing the facts. Thank God for Glenn Beck.

petefrt on February 9, 2011 at 9:22 PM

caliphate.
cartooner on February 9, 2011 at 8:58 PM

I really like what you did there.

LegendHasIt on February 9, 2011 at 9:23 PM

Anna Nicole Smith: I am so totally in love with sexy handsome 99-year-old husband. – Cableguy615

Haha awesomely awesome!

Tony737 on February 9, 2011 at 9:23 PM

You lie, habibi.

Philly on February 9, 2011 at 9:23 PM

Seven Percent Solution on February 9, 2011 at 9:13 PM

From now on I’m calling him President Takeyya. If people ask me what that is/means, I will be doing my civic duty to inform the public a bit about our C in C and his Muslim heritage all in one easy step.

katy on February 9, 2011 at 9:24 PM

Lying to the infidel is a tenet of islam.

GaltBlvnAtty on February 9, 2011 at 9:27 PM

Cat, bag, back in bag, pretty please.

read their paper and website.

It’s BS.

tarpon on February 9, 2011 at 9:32 PM

Well, all I’d like to say about this is that Glenn Beck has shown himself to trend ahead of the curve, once again, in his analysis and commentary on Egypt. This time, his victory was spectacular. A couple of weeks ago, they were calling him a conspiracy theorist. Now they take what he said then as today’s news.

Beck is driving the MSM into facing the facts. Thank God for Glenn Beck.

petefrt on February 9, 2011 at 9:22 PM

You are right of course, but the liberal media will never admit it. They can broadcast the news re what Beck predicted a month ago and still call him a conspiracy nut.

slickwillie2001 on February 9, 2011 at 9:36 PM

It wasn’t believable at all. They lie. So, guess Saudi Arabia told Obama to kiss their tail. Which he already did that. As from what a poster said about Glenn Beck that is true, on face book a lot of users were mocking him……..He was spot on. Sometimes I don’t know how to take Beck but I don’t dislike him.

sheebe on February 9, 2011 at 9:38 PM

“I did not have sexual relations with that woman…”

The Notorious G.O.P on February 9, 2011 at 9:38 PM

Per Drudge: Saudi’s told BHO to back Mubarak or they would…

d1carter on February 9, 2011 at 8:58 PM

Yep: Exclusive: Saudis Told Obama to Back Mubarak

I can imagine the King’s conversation with little Bammie:

“Yes your highness, yes your highness, yes…..”

slickwillie2001 on February 9, 2011 at 9:39 PM

Muslim Brotherhood: We’re totally not interested in a religious state

They have about as much credibility as a “former” pedophile who says they are no longer interested in children. Never mind the fact that the “former” pedophile has coincidentally just moved into a house 50 feet from a public park playground.

DeathB4Tyranny on February 9, 2011 at 9:45 PM

You lie!

pugwriter on February 9, 2011 at 9:47 PM

From Drudge

Saudi Arabia has threatened to prop up President Mubarak if the White House tries to force a swift change of regime in Egypt. In a testy personal telephone call on January 29, King Abdullah told President Obama not to humiliate Mr Mubarak and warned that he would step in to bankroll Egypt if the US withdrew its aid programme, worth $1.5 billion annually. America’s closest ally in the Gulf made clear that the Egyptian President must be allowed to stay on to oversee the transition towards peaceful democracy and then leave with dignity. “Mubarak and King Abdullah are not just allies, they are close friends, and the King is not about to see his friend cast aside and humiliated,” a senior source in the Saudi capital told The Times.

Schadenfreude on February 9, 2011 at 10:07 PM

Schadenfreude on February 9, 2011 at 10:07 PM

I see this a little differently. SA knows that Israel must be kept safe. Israel is the only thing standing in the way of Iran nuking the entire ME out of existence.

katy on February 9, 2011 at 10:22 PM

Was the headline quoted before or after Suleiman’s warning?

OldEnglish on February 9, 2011 at 11:04 PM

Depends on if you believe that rabid, deceitful, totalitarian, theocratic maniacs will keep their word when they claim that they are not rabid, deceitful, totalitarian, theocratic maniacs.

Shucks, I believe’ em!

profitsbeard on February 9, 2011 at 11:13 PM

And Jesse Ventura was a Navy Seal…

The only way to believe the MB is to ignore their principles, their stated goals, their previous actions, and the underlying (focus on the lying) principles of their so-called religion.

You would have to be as stupid as crr6finsridiculrino to buy in. Fortunately for the MB they have virtually everyone in the MSM to carry their message.

Mormon Doc on February 9, 2011 at 11:52 PM

MB not interested in an Islamic theocracy and Obama doesn’t die his hair. You can hardly blame the MB. Liberals will fall for – and tell – every lie that advances their Utopian dreams.

Basilsbest on February 10, 2011 at 5:33 AM

http://www.islamreview.com/articles/lying.shtml

katy on February 9, 2011 at 8:59 PM

from the link provided above:

The principle of Al-Takeyya

The Arabic word, “Takeyya”, means “to prevent,” or guard against. The principle of Al Takeyya conveys the understanding that Muslims are permitted to lie as a preventive measure against anticipated harm to one’s self or fellow Muslims. This principle gives Muslims the liberty to lie under circumstances that they perceive as life threatening. They can even deny the faith, if they do not mean it in their hearts. Al-Takeyya is based on the following Quranic verse:

“Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution (prevention), that ye may Guard yourselves from them (prevent them from harming you.) But Allah cautions you (To remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah.” Surah 3: 28

According to this verse a Muslim can pretend to befriend infidels (in violation of the teachings of Islam) and display adherence with their unbelief to prevent them from harming him.

Under the concept of Takeyya and short of killing another human being, if under the threat of force, it is legitimate for Muslims to act contrary to their faith. The following actions are acceptable:

Drink wine, abandon prayers, and skip fasting during Ramadan.
Renounce belief in Allah.
Kneel in homage to a deity other than Allah.
Utter insincere oaths.
The implications of the principle of Al-Takeyya
Unfortunately, when dealing with Muslims, one must keep in mind that Muslims can communicate something with apparent sincerity, when in reality they may have just the opposite agenda in their hearts. Bluntly stated, Islam permits Muslims to lie anytime that they perceive that their own well-being, or that of Islam, is threatened.

In the sphere of international politics, the question is: Can Muslim countries be trusted to keep their end of the agreements that they sign with non-Muslim nations? It is a known Islamic practice, that when Muslims are weak they can agree with most anything. Once they become strong, then they negate what they formerly vowed.

The principle of sanctioning lying for the cause of Islam bears grave implications in matters relating to the spread of the religion of Islam in the West. Muslim activists employ deceptive tactics in their attempts to polish Islam’s image and make it more attractive to prospective converts. They carefully try to avoid, obscure, and omit mentioning any of the negative Islamic texts and teachings.

An example of Islamic deception is that Muslim activists always quote the passages of the Quran from the early part of Mohammed’s ministry while living in Mecca. These texts are peaceful and exemplify tolerance towards those that are not followers of Islam. All the while, they are fully aware that most of these passages were abrogated (cancelled and replaced) by passages that came after he migrated to Medina. The replacement verses reflect prejudice, intolerance, and endorse violence upon unbelievers

In conclusion, it is imperative to understand, that Muslim leaders can use this loop-hole in their religion, to absolve them from any permanent commitment. It is also important to know that what Muslim activists say to spread Islam may not always be the whole truth. When dealing with Muslims, what they say is not the issue. The real issue is, what they actually mean in their hearts.

patrick neid on February 10, 2011 at 8:09 AM

Muslim Brotherhood: We’re totally not interested in a religious state

Actually, those savages were referring to Israel when they said that – they want to destroy Isreal. You have to read between the lines to really understand what those sub-human creatures mean when they say something.

LODGE4 on February 10, 2011 at 8:27 AM

Exactly what I would expect him to say if he wanted Sharia Law.

How many people have said they were not running for President only to announce their run a little later?

jeffn21 on February 10, 2011 at 9:25 AM

If you look closely at the guy farthest from the camera you’ll notice what looks like a large bump on his forehead. It’s call a zabibah, and is just like the one on Ayman al-Zawahiri‘s forehead. It comes from banging your head on the ground during prayers, and is a sign of Islamic piousness. Hence, the name “headbanger.”

And this is the guy making assurances that the Ikhwan has no political designs? Please.

Eastview on February 10, 2011 at 11:55 AM

figuring out a way to keep the Egyptian army from cracking heads if/when their Islamist agenda becomes too inconvenient for the military’s own purposes.

They will simply assassinate the army’s top leadership. The rest of the army will get the message.

PattyJ on February 10, 2011 at 12:20 PM