Jim Webb: one and done

posted at 12:15 pm on February 9, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Freshman Senator Jim Webb will not make an effort to run for a second term, Ben Smith reports at Politico.  Later today, Webb will announce his retirement, leaving Democrats with an empty seat to defend in what looks to be another tough electoral cycle:

Virginia Senator Jim Webb plans to announce today that he won’t seek reelection, a senior Senate source said.

Webb appeared likely to face a rematch with former Senator George Allen, whom he beat in a bruising 2006 contest. He had expressed ambivalence about the prospect of another run, and has said he never planned a life in politics.

Ambivalence certainly describes Webb’s efforts thus far at extending his stay in the Senate.  A week ago, Ben Pershing at the Washington Post noted Webb’s desultory efforts:

Webb’s fund-raising has been slow for some time. The Washington Post reported in December that as of Sept. 30, 23 of the 33 senators up for reelection next year had more cash in the bank than Webb did. That was before the fourth quarter — Webb’s slowest one yet.

Webb had $445,000 in the bank at the end of 2010. In a new roundup of the latest numbers, The Fix finds that of 17 “potentially vulnerable” senators in 2012 whose fundraising totals were available, only two had less cash on hand than Webb.

Webb had no particular explanation in December for why his fund-raising was sparse. “I just haven’t done any of it,” he said, while expressing confidence that he could ramp up and raise the money he would need for 2012 — likely in excess of $10 million — if he does decide to run.

Virginia has begun electing more Republicans of late, including current governor Bob McDonnell in 2009, less than a year after Barack Obama took office.  George Allen will challenge for the seat, who lost it in 2006 mainly for mishandling the “macaca” controversy, and he will face at least one challenger from the Tea Party, organizer Jamie Radtke. Webb would have provided Democrats with a defensible moderate in a state fluctuating between different shades of purple, and now they have to look elsewhere to salvage the seat.

Tim Kaine gets the most attention, and as former governor for a single term, he has both name recognition and a track record of state-wide success.  However, his performance in office was not exactly popular, one reason why a Republican replaced him.  Kaine has also spent a couple of years as chair of the DNC and has provided a number of sound bites that his eventual Republican opponent will be certain to exploit.  Without Kaine and Webb, Democrats will have to rely on lesser-known bench players — or perhaps Terry McAuliffe, the former DNC chair that lost the gubernatorial primary to Creigh Deeds in 2009.

Either way, the retirement of Webb makes the Virginia seat a little easier to win for Republicans.


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I remember Jim Webb as SECNAV, back in the day. He is a patriotic American who has served our nation well in many capacities. I do not believe that his performance as a Democrat Senator from VA has been one of them. I am disappointed in his choices, but commend his track record of service.

ted c on February 9, 2011 at 12:18 PM

The writing on the wall was large print.

Vashta.Nerada on February 9, 2011 at 12:19 PM

or perhaps Terry McAuliffe,

Please, please let them nominate this fool.

Rocks on February 9, 2011 at 12:19 PM

Very good news..now lets take this seat back to the conservative side of the Aisle…
Do I see a Levin surge calling?.

hawkman on February 9, 2011 at 12:20 PM

First the rats help to destroy the economy and then they jump ship.

VBMax on February 9, 2011 at 12:20 PM

I can’t help but to wonder what this man knows. If you’re a Democrat politician and you have a conscience and any form of integrity, you must run from what you have been a part of. I hope he decides to talk in an attempt to cleanse his soul.

Keemo on February 9, 2011 at 12:21 PM

Jim Moran, please follow this fine example.

raybury on February 9, 2011 at 12:22 PM

he will face at least one challenger from the Tea Party, organizer Jamie Radtke.

Who is she? Good Lord I hope the Tea Party doesn’t screw this one up.

Knucklehead on February 9, 2011 at 12:22 PM

I wonder what Reid and Pelosi have on this guy….

Jarhead68 on February 9, 2011 at 12:23 PM

Maybe the Senator has now decided to exercise “A Sense of Honor.” I won’t be satisfied until Sen. Webb admits his culpability in the demise of Admiral Boorda.

WordsMatter on February 9, 2011 at 12:23 PM

Don’t let the door hit you. Jim Webb may be a great guy but ever since his run for the seat I see very little to respect.

ORconservative on February 9, 2011 at 12:23 PM

More please!

PappyD61 on February 9, 2011 at 12:24 PM

Obama will appoint him Sec of Def

orfannkyl on February 9, 2011 at 12:24 PM

Keemo on February 9, 2011 at 12:21 PM

Me too.

ORconservative on February 9, 2011 at 12:24 PM

I remember Jim Webb as SECNAV, back in the day. He is a patriotic American who has served our nation well in many capacities. I do not believe that his performance as a Democrat Senator from VA has been one of them. I am disappointed in his choices, but commend his track record of service.

ted c on February 9, 2011 at 12:18 PM

The same way many people feel about McCain

darwin-t on February 9, 2011 at 12:25 PM

Unfortunately for Virginians, this means we can expect Dear Leader to fly around Virginia in support of whoever the Dems put up in 2012.

Thanks for nothing.

BobMbx on February 9, 2011 at 12:26 PM

Good riddance! Now if Virginia could also get rid of the resident moron Moran and Mark Warner needs to go, too, then they can avoid becoming another disaster state like their neighbor Maryland. And it’s laughable to see the posters who hope old melon head Webb gets to be Gates’ replacement. This freak show, hot head as Secretary of Defense! Now that’s a joke!!

mozalf on February 9, 2011 at 12:26 PM

His hatred for Bush is what motivated him. Now that Bush is gone, he seems to have lost the drive.

portlandon on February 9, 2011 at 12:26 PM

Welcome back, Senator Allen

ConservativePartyNow on February 9, 2011 at 12:27 PM

Webb’s a perfect example of the adages of both choosing your friends wisely and when you lie down with dogs, you get fleas.

His blind anger at George W. Bush and the administration’s War on Terror policies made Webb align himself with people like Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi in 2006 whom he had virtually nothing else in common with, and he compounded his own problems by sticking with the Democrats not only during the 2008 election, but through the Senate votes on the Dems’ liberal social programs the past two years.

He sold his overall ideological soul just to get back at Bush 43, and with Obama basically continuing Bush’s policies in Iraq and expanding on them in Afghanistan, Webb now as nothing to run for re-election on but the agenda implemented by Barack, Harry and Nancy. A painful lesson to learn, but Webb can still redeem himself somewhat by speaking out about his mistakes in supporting their policies between now and the 2012 election.

jon1979 on February 9, 2011 at 12:27 PM

Obama will appoint him Sec of Def

orfannkyl on February 9, 2011 at 12:24 PM

My thought, too.

publiuspen on February 9, 2011 at 12:28 PM

Jim Moran, please follow this fine example.

raybury on February 9, 2011 at 12:22 PM

Likewise Al Franken.

BigWyo on February 9, 2011 at 12:28 PM

Jim Moran, Barack Hussein Obama, please follow this fine example.

raybury on February 9, 2011 at 12:22 PM

Sorry, I couldn’t help myself.

UltimateBob on February 9, 2011 at 12:28 PM

As for Tim Kaine, he only served one term because that is all you can serve in Virginia.

And he was still horrible….

anwatkins on February 9, 2011 at 12:28 PM

Obama will appoint him Sec of Def

orfannkyl on February 9, 2011 at 12:24 PM

Possibly, but there is no certainty that Webb would accept this position in an administration going down in flames

ConservativePartyNow on February 9, 2011 at 12:31 PM

Just managed to be here long enough to pass the crap sandwich of a health care bill. I won’t miss you, Jim.

Hopefully the state GOP can find a good candidate, instead of retreading Allen. This could be a reasonably easy pickup for the GoP.

Vyce on February 9, 2011 at 12:31 PM

“Who is she? Good Lord I hope the Tea Party doesn’t screw this one up”

“In 1995, Jamie graduated from Liberty University with a B.S. in Government. Her first exposure to politics came that same year when she worked for the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee, chaired by Senator Jesse Helms. During her tenure there, this committee sought to abolish or consolidate three separate federal agencies to eliminate some of the bureaucracy and redundancy of the federal government.

Jamie received her Master of Public Policy from The College of William and Mary in 1998. After graduate school she spent two years at American Management Systems consulting to the Virginia Department of Taxation to help make their daily operations more efficient and cost effective.”

Harry S on February 9, 2011 at 12:32 PM

Jamie Radtke is part of the Richmond Tea Party. Here in VA they are considerably influential and active. I’d liken them to the St Louis Tea Party or Atlanta. They are going places. Radtke is a homeschool mom and small business owner.

ted c on February 9, 2011 at 12:33 PM

I wonder what’s about to come out? maybe a gay affair/straight affair?.

borg on February 9, 2011 at 12:33 PM

Obama will appoint him Sec of Def

orfannkyl on February 9, 2011 at 12:24 PM

My thought, too.

publiuspen on February 9, 2011 at 12:28 PM

Not gonna happen. From what others have said, Virginia law allows the governor, a Republican, to choose Webb’s replacement if Webb resigns.

Bambi won’t let the Republicans get one seat closer to a majority there without a fight.

teke184 on February 9, 2011 at 12:34 PM

Oh, and PLEASE, no more Tim Kaine. Had enough of that douche here to last a lifetime.

Vyce on February 9, 2011 at 12:34 PM

Like rats fleeing a sinking ship, except rats drown. Somehow I think Webb will find a more lucrative job related to working in Washington.

Dusty on February 9, 2011 at 12:34 PM

I would much prefer that current Dems stay and run against solid Conservatives… and LOSE to the conservatives as a pointed stick to poke drooler liberals in the eyes with.

44Magnum on February 9, 2011 at 12:34 PM

Webb would have provided Democrats with a defensible moderate in a state fluctuating between different shades of purple, and now they have to look elsewhere to salvage the seat.

What has Webb actually been moderate on?

The interesting thing about these mythical moderates is that they always vote with the far left when someone like Pelosi or Reid comes calling…

18-1 on February 9, 2011 at 12:35 PM

I wonder what’s about to come out? maybe a gay affair/straight affair?.

borg on February 9, 2011 at 12:33 PM

Proof that the passage in his novel about flipping the boy over and putting the kid’s p@nis in his mouth was autobiographical would be my guess.

teke184 on February 9, 2011 at 12:35 PM

Jim Moran, please follow this fine example.
raybury on February 9, 2011 at 12:22 PM

Never going to happen. I live in Moran’s district. There are enough ultra-libs here to ensure that anti-Semitic old communist stays in office until he keels over.

Vyce on February 9, 2011 at 12:38 PM

Who is she? Good Lord I hope the Tea Party doesn’t screw this one up.

Knucklehead on February 9, 2011 at 12:22 PM

Yes, because clearly it’s not as though the people actually elect the candidate they want.

/

fossten on February 9, 2011 at 12:40 PM

I’m hearing chatter about more Democrats about to officially change party’s. Is this the sinking ship dynamic, or is this about not being able to live with what they are a part of. Or, could this be an attempt to fool voters knowing full well that they will not be re-elected as a Democrat. Regardless, it sure sounds like the GOP is going to pick up more seats especially on the State level.

Keemo on February 9, 2011 at 12:40 PM

or perhaps Terry McAuliffe,
Please, please let them nominate this fool.

Rocks on February 9, 2011 at 12:19 PM

The Macker is Back! After losing the 2009 Democratic governor primary to someone named Creigh Deeds.

The bad thing is if The Macker is the nominee, Bill Clinton will be a constant nuisance in Virginia for a whole year. But it’d be worth it when Allen wins as yet another repudiation of the Clinton Presdency

ChrisB on February 9, 2011 at 12:46 PM

Is this the sinking ship dynamic, or is this about not being able to live with what they are a part of

.

It’s a little of column A and a little of column B, depending on the state.

In Louisiana, it’s been part of a 30-40 year brand makeover for the Republican party, as many Blue Dogs identified with them on a political basis but stayed in their home party for whatever reason.

The national Dems are now destroying the chances for the state and local parties by insisting upon far-left platforms and insisting on support down to the lowest levels. That’s why Rep. Rodney Alexander flipped to the GOP in 2004 and, IMHO, the treatment of influential Blue Dog Charlie Melancon (D-LA) by the national party likely convinced many LA Dems that it was time to go.

teke184 on February 9, 2011 at 12:51 PM

I got the sense that politics sickened him.

John the Libertarian on February 9, 2011 at 12:52 PM

The interesting thing about these mythical moderates is that they always vote with the far left when someone like Pelosi or Reid comes calling…

18-1 on February 9, 2011 at 12:35 PM

EXACTEMUNDO

angryed on February 9, 2011 at 12:53 PM

Webb’s problem, I guess, is that he’s an old fashioned Democrat who hadn’t realize that the old fashioned Democrat party starts with an “R” these days. The D party is the “S” party now.

What we need is a new Republican Party, now, which has been conspicuously absent.

FloatingRock on February 9, 2011 at 12:54 PM

He also likes picking up titles.

Senator, Secretary of the Navy (under Reagan), and now possibly Sec or Defense.

He’s getting his resume together for a 2016 run.

TiminPhx on February 9, 2011 at 12:54 PM

Harry S on February 9, 2011 at 12:33 PM

Sharron Angle and Christine O’Donnell went to school too (allegedly, in the latter instance), but it still doesn’t mean that nominating them was a good idea.

Not mentioned in your hagiography? She’s a raving Paulnut. Even Rand Paul wasn’t a Paulnut.

KingGold on February 9, 2011 at 12:55 PM

I got the sense that politics sickened him.

John the Libertarian on February 9, 2011 at 12:52 PM

That’s pretty much what Joe Trippie just said on Fox. He didn’t like the way things moved too slowly in Congress.

Knucklehead on February 9, 2011 at 12:56 PM

Another shining example why senate (and of course house, too) retirees should have at least a 15 year vestment and preferably 20 for a pension!

We the people cannot AFFORD this anymore!

golfmann on February 9, 2011 at 12:57 PM

They really need to make a movie so that the lefty big-foreheaded tool Tim Robbins can play Webb.

Missy on February 9, 2011 at 12:58 PM

Not mentioned in your hagiography? She’s a raving Paulnut. Even Rand Paul wasn’t a Paulnut.

So far Rand Paul is impressive. When the Reps are offering a 5% cut in deficit spending (maybe), he’s come up with a 36% cut.

It is still far too timid, but comparing him to the rest of his party or the Democrats, he’s George Patton.

18-1 on February 9, 2011 at 1:00 PM

Another Liberal making room for the Progressive Crusade,
hopefully,his seat will fall into fa hands,of da Right!!
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Senator Jim Webb
Democrat of Virginia
Progressive Rating: 59/100
Conservative Rating: 9/100
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http://thatsmycongress.com/senate/senatorJimWebbVA111.html

canopfor on February 9, 2011 at 1:02 PM

So far Rand Paul is impressive. When the Reps are offering a 5% cut in deficit spending (maybe), he’s come up with a 36% cut.

18-1 on February 9, 2011 at 1:00 PM

Exactly. Except for a little foreign policy hesistation, he’s a great conservative. That is, not his father.

But Radtke’s dangerous. People need to understand this. The usual suspects are already singing her praises and they know nothing but her name.

KingGold on February 9, 2011 at 1:03 PM

He refused to shake W’s hand, a classless act.

Akzed on February 9, 2011 at 1:04 PM

Webb carried and sometimes walked in his son’s combat boots. his son was stationed in iraq or Afghanistan. When he won on election night, he put his son’s boots on the podium. Absolutely disgusting.

Lothar on February 9, 2011 at 1:08 PM

Likewise Al Franken.

BigWyo on February 9, 2011 at 12:28 PM

Toast, but in 2014.

Bruno Strozek on February 9, 2011 at 1:08 PM

We’re gonna miss him like a front tooth.

Cindy Munford on February 9, 2011 at 1:09 PM

while campaigning , I mean, he walked with or in his son’s boots.

Lothar on February 9, 2011 at 1:09 PM

AMF and good riddance. Webb is an odd duck. A man of physical courage as evidenced by his service in Vietnam. A man of principle when he resigned as SecNav over the decision to not develop a 600 ship navy. But he turned into a whining CodePink dad, opportunistically running for the Senate because he was mad a Bush’s Iraq policies, and his son was in danger there. Shamelessly allowing/ecnouraging George Allen to be characterized as a bigot, while Webb himself gratuitously used the ‘N’ word in his books and self admittedly drove through the the Watts section of LA brandishing a firearm at peaceful Black citizens while screaming the ‘N’ word at them as well. Then he turned into Obama and Reid’s lackey, spinelessly rubberstamping everything they wanted.

He will not be missed. Tim Kaine isn’t popular here either. Terry McAuliff is a Clintonista, which equals Obama, Webb, Kaine. VA isn’t as purple as many people think.

JimP on February 9, 2011 at 1:14 PM

He didn’t like the way things moved too slowly in Congress.

Knucklehead on February 9, 2011 at 12:56 PM

That’s a frightening contemplation.

anuts on February 9, 2011 at 1:15 PM

But Radtke’s dangerous. People need to understand this. The usual suspects are already singing her praises and they know nothing but her name.
KingGold on February 9, 2011 at 1:03 PM

Correction, they just see the phrase “Tea Party” attached to her name and think that’s good enough. It isn’t.

I don’t know how many people at HA live in the NoVa area, or are familiar with it. It is VERY liberal, and it’s sizable enough that it sways elections (hence VA’s shift to “purple”). I firmly believe a Republican can win Webb’s seat. I am not convinced a Tea Party conservative can, unless they are damn impressive, like a Marco Rubio. NoVa will not turn out and vote in a Christine O’Donnell type just because, or I should say especially because, they’re Tea Party approved.

Vyce on February 9, 2011 at 1:20 PM

I got the sense that politics sickened him.

John the Libertarian on February 9, 2011 at 12:52 PM

That does nothing to explain his lock-step voting pattern in support of the liberal agenda.

I think a more appropriate analogy would be “He doesn’t like being a prostitute anymore”

BobMbx on February 9, 2011 at 1:21 PM

Webb is the author of a great book on the vietnam war,”Fields of Fire”.

jsunrise on February 9, 2011 at 1:27 PM

Virginia’s tryst with the democrats was short-lived. Welcome home, Virginia.

SouthernGent on February 9, 2011 at 1:27 PM

Webb appeared likely to face a rematch with former Senator George Allen, whom he beat in a bruising 2006 contest.

Typical Politico article. The only bruising in that contest was from the WaPo’s daily attacks on Sen Allen. Once out of the primary race, Webb was never really forced to answer a question or give any detailed policy statements. He didn’t even need to really campaign, as the Washington and national media did it for him, for free.

Bravo to his military service. He did more for our country than I did in my 22 years. But that service is long behind him. Jim Murtha was a Marine and look how that turned out.

I look forward to the race and will back whoever is victorious in the Republican primary.

TugboatPhil on February 9, 2011 at 1:32 PM

Webb is the author of a great book on the vietnam war,”Fields of Fire”.

jsunrise on February 9, 2011 at 1:27 PM

Is that the one where he fantasizes about sexually abusing women and calls it “fiction”?

BobMbx on February 9, 2011 at 1:33 PM

Giving up so early? Chickens coming home to roost, to quote a famous person.

tarpon on February 9, 2011 at 1:44 PM

republicans in virginia say: please nominate Tim Kaine.

kelley in virginia on February 9, 2011 at 1:47 PM

But Radtke’s dangerous. People need to understand this. The usual suspects are already singing her praises and they know nothing but her name.

KingGold on February 9, 2011 at 1:03 PM

Please explain how she is “dangerous”, what kind of weapons is she carrying around? Virginia has a primary and both she and Allen must run the primary gauntlet. It seems you and a few others have already prejudged her based on her Tea Party affiliation and want to run her down just the way you ran O’Donnell down every chance you got. It appears that we are going to get a repeat of the O’Donnell treatment – “judged to be guilty- no need to appeal”.

nwsseeker on February 9, 2011 at 1:50 PM

republicans in virginia say: please nominate Tim Kaine.
kelley in virginia on February 9, 2011 at 1:47 PM

LOL Amen to that.

JimP on February 9, 2011 at 2:01 PM

He knew he had a snowball’s chance in hell of winning.

ButterflyDragon on February 9, 2011 at 2:01 PM

republicans in virginia say: please nominate Tim Kaine.

kelley in virginia on February 9, 2011 at 1:47 PM

I think you’d have to be a Virginian to fully appreciate what you said there :-). But please oh please let them do it!

Oldnuke on February 9, 2011 at 2:07 PM

Rats ==> sinking ship

jnelchef on February 9, 2011 at 2:37 PM

Correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t Senators get full retirement after 6 years? Maybe that explains it.

Tim Burton on February 9, 2011 at 2:54 PM

Another Liberal is going!
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“Moderate” Rep. Harman Resigns: “The Timing Wasn’t Mine”
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Self-described “moderate” Congresswoman Jane Harman (D-CA) says she is resigning to become the leader of a think tank.

Posted on February 8, 2011

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/02/08/moderate_rep_harman_resigns_the_timing_wasnt_mine.html

canopfor on February 9, 2011 at 3:01 PM

Guess Webb who won by such few votes with no recount didn’t want to take on George Allen who is out to win that seat back!

PhiKapMom on February 9, 2011 at 3:08 PM

I remember Jim Webb as SECNAV, back in the day. He is a patriotic American who has served our nation well in many capacities. I do not believe that his performance as a Democrat Senator from VA has been one of them. I am disappointed in his choices, but commend his track record of service.

ted c on February 9, 2011 at 12:18 PM

Perhaps you should read … Fall from Glory: The Men Who Sank the U.S. Navy by Gregory L. Vistica

He was one of the guy’s who sank it.

Webb resigned SECNAV in 1988 after refusing to reduce the size of the Navy – he had pushed for a 600 ship navy and I don’t think we got quite there – or maybe we had the keel laid on #600 … but, whatever … Reagan wrote in his diaries … “I don’t think Navy was sorry to see him go.”

HondaV65 on February 9, 2011 at 3:10 PM

defensible moderate

::blink:: Where in heck did you come up with that statement? Look at Webb’s voting record the last few years. Tell me exactly where he bravely opposed the Reid/Pelosi/Obama agenda?

::crickets chirping::

That’s what I thought.

I grew up in the south as a conservative Democrat many years ago. That breed, while not extinct, is certainly endangered. Webb was a fine person, but a lousy, lousy, Senator, with a liberal voting record. A true moderate would have somewhere in the 35%-50% range for both conservative and liberal votes. Webb’s, as someone pointed out, put him at a meager 9% for the conservative side. I guess that makes you a moderate if you’re sitting to the left of Mao.

Physics Geek on February 9, 2011 at 3:16 PM

Webb’s efforts to disguise his “conservative” and Scots Irish southern roots have been for naught. Good to get rid of this dissembler.

wraithby on February 9, 2011 at 3:23 PM

So much for melon head. I wonder if he regrets the diss of W a few years back. Wouldn’t even shake the man’s hand.

EMD on February 9, 2011 at 4:09 PM

One term as Senator? That qualifies him to run for President (Edwards). Oh, heck, you only have to serve 1/3 of a term to run for President.

ynot4tony2 on February 9, 2011 at 5:47 PM

Ed: The Commonwealth of Virginia allows only one term as governor. Saying Kaine was replaced in lieu of re-election is misleading to those who don’t know that he had no capacity for re-election.

That being said, I hope Kaine gets the nod. He’s no chance against George Allen, short of Allen’s doing something inordinately stupid…again.

Sgt Steve on February 9, 2011 at 7:35 PM

“I got my lifetime pension. So long suckaz!!!!”

–Jim Webb

mojojojo on February 9, 2011 at 7:40 PM

I’d like to say a kind word about Jim Webb. He is a thoughtful and intelligent guy.

But he took a political position against George W. Bush on Iraq, and at one point, he even got a little personal about it with regard to his son Jimmy, who served there.

This was all understandable from the perspective of a parent who naturally did not want his child sent into harms way on a fools errand. No one in their right mind does!

But when his son returned, I think the young man told Dad that it was not a fools errand; that it was instead a worthy endeavor.

Thereupon, Senator Jim Webb ate a little crow, and he even asked the President for an opportunity to stop by the White House with his son for a meet-and-greet with the Commander in Chief, including participating in a photo op — which could NOT have been in Jim Webb’s political interest.

Bush, ever the really classy guy, said of course.

Here is that photo.

I can only now wish that Jim Webb had thought through his future a bit more, and decided to pursue his political career as a Republican.

But, he wanted to start at the top, and that made all the difference.

Trochilus on February 9, 2011 at 8:17 PM

Buh-bye you big-mouthed bloviating Mellon-head.

You couldn’t shut-up and show-boated to disrespect GWB, but decided to mimick a mime once ZerObama took commmand.

Bye, butt-munch!

Gob on February 9, 2011 at 9:26 PM

Member of Congress or Congressional Employee (or any combination of the two)
Must have at least 5 years of service as Member and/or Congressional Employee
1.7% of your high-3 average salary multiplied by your years of service as a Member of Congress or Congressional Employee which do not exceed 20,
plus
1% of your high-3 average salary multiplied by your years of other service

http://www.opm.gov/retire/pre/fers/computation.asp

So Web would get a retirement of 10.2% of his average high three years. So yes, he gets a pension but it is not a large one.

Fredlike on February 9, 2011 at 10:03 PM

His service time as Secretary of the Navy may also be included in this calculation. I do not know how much that would add.

Fredlike on February 9, 2011 at 10:05 PM

Webb’s quitting? Good. He can go back to writing crappy books that gather dust on Barnes & Borders bookshelves.

I stopped buying anything from Barnes & Borders when I tried to buy Oleg Atbashian’s non-fiction book, Shakedown Socialism and the simpering shaved-head Libtard pursed his lips and said, “We certainly don’t carry that book here and we can’t (won’t) order it in either.”

CatchAll on February 9, 2011 at 10:43 PM

Obama will appoint him Sec of Def

orfannkyl on February 9, 2011 at 12:24 PM

Could be… He’d only have the job from when Sec. Gates resigns until JAN 2013… How much damage could he really do? And, it would keep Hillary out of the job…

“Check, and mate!”

What WILL be interesting is what POTUS will do with the Joint Chiefs’ positions this year…

Khun Joe on February 9, 2011 at 11:18 PM

. . . .
I stopped buying anything from Barnes & Borders when I tried to buy Oleg Atbashian’s non-fiction book, Shakedown Socialism and the simpering shaved-head Libtard pursed his lips and said, “We certainly don’t carry that book here and we can’t (won’t) order it in either.”

CatchAll on February 9, 2011 at 10:43 PM

To put it bluntly, that is a load.

In the first place, you obviously wouldn’t know a bookstore from an entrenching tool, as Barnes and Noble and Borders are two different establishments.

Which one did you go in again? A little confused, are you?

In the second place, I just checked on BOTH of their websites, and you indeed can order Oleg Atbashian’s “Shakedown Socialism” (used) from either one of them.

Just go here (Barnes & Noble) or you can go here (Borders).

Agitprop is and should remain the province of the left, not be something adapted for use by pseudo-conservatives to try to unfairly blacken the name of a business or businesses.

The interesting thing to me is that I actually had a very similar incident occur to me in a book store in San Francisco, many years ago. I believe I’ve even posted about it here at HotAir.

Your “version,” however, just doesn’t hold water.

Trochilus on February 10, 2011 at 1:44 PM

Trochilus on February 10, 2011 at 1:44 PM

You don’t know me. You only think you do.

1) “Barnes & Borders” is my nickname for the two bookstore chains, Borders and Barnes & Noble.

2) It was a Barnes & Noble store in Louisiana that I physically went into, not on the internets. The customer service guy told me flat out that they didn’t carry it and they couldn’t order it in for me.

3) I was able to find & purchase Shakedown Socialism at Amazon.com

4) When I go to any of the Barnes & Borders looking for books on conservative politics, I often find that they don’t have the book in stock or their conservative books are buried away in some inaccessible spot whilst the latest left-wing screeds are on prominent display. Libtards tend to flock to coffee shops & bookstores so it doesn’t take a leap of imagination to realize most if not all of the people seeking employment there are Libtards.

So what else ya got, tough guy?

CatchAll on February 10, 2011 at 2:05 PM

CatchAll on February 10, 2011 at 2:05 PM

It seems to me that, having now conceded that it was one and not the other, any fair minded person in your place would not have deliberately set out to smear both, as you indeed did earlier on this thread.

Only after being confronted, did you “admit” that it was a Barnes & Noble store in Louisiana, and that Borders had absolutely nothing to do with the incident.

Well, if it actually did happen as you now say, common sense also suggests that your complaint was with one out-of-line employee, a complaint that you should have pursued, but not by attempting to smear two bookstore chains here.

At this point, CatchAll, you might want to consider quitting while you’re behind!

Admissions against interest do tend to pile up. Perhaps you might also want to consider going into a bookstore of your choosing, and ask if they have a section featuring books on logic.

Trochilus on February 10, 2011 at 4:00 PM

dude, you need to lighten up on the double mocha latte’s. When I see posts like yours on here, I realize that we’ve got another Narcissistic nitpicking nattering nabob of negativism.

I smell a rat here, a Democ-rat.

So what else ya got?

CatchAll on February 11, 2011 at 12:07 AM

I thought so.

CatchAll on February 11, 2011 at 1:54 PM