Super Bowl open thread

posted at 10:30 am on February 6, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

And so it comes down to two of the most storied franchises in the NFL, both named after working-class occupations in working-class towns.  The Green Bay Packers meet the Pittsburgh Steelers in perhaps the most impressive Super Bowl environment yet, the billion-dollar stadium that Jerry Jones built for the Dallas Cowboys.  The Packers bring three previous Super Bowl titles to the game, along with nine other league championships, but none more recent than 1996′s Super Bowl.  The Steelers bring six Super Bowl championships in seven appearances, including two in the last five years.

So far this season, I’ve gone 66-40 for regular-season picks and 7-3 in the playoffs.  This game will be tough to call for many reasons.  Obviously I’m backing the Steelers — if you’ve ever read an NFL open thread, you know that much — but I like the Packers as well.  They’ve played as tough as anyone in the last several weeks, and the Pack got to Dallas by winning three games on the road in the playoffs.  The last team to do that?  The Pittsburgh Steelers, in the 2005 season, and they won the Super Bowl.  They’re a fast team playing on turf, and their O-line is healthier than Pittsburgh’s.

But Pittsburgh has some advantages.  First, this is their third Super Bowl in six years, with 18 players having been together for all three.  They had to beat tough defenses to get here, especially the Ravens.  Green Bay beat the Bears defense to win their conference, but they haven’t seen a defense of the Steeler’s caliber in the playoffs.  Pittsburgh has a better run game and may be able to limit Aaron Rodgers’ number of opportunities through ball control, while the Steeler D should force Rodgers into passing through a superior run defense.

This should be a great game, a close game, and it may come down to the team that has the ball last.  I’m picking the Steelers to beat the Packers by a touchdown, 27-20.


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I’ve really enjoyed all the GM and Chrylser commercials I’ve paid for with my taxes.

SouthernGent on February 6, 2011 at 10:12 PM

Mighty white of you to say… but I didn’t like a damn one.

skeedro on February 6, 2011 at 10:14 PM

You would think after two weeks…

… these guys would get tired of hearing themselves talk.

Oh, wait…!

Seven Percent Solution on February 6, 2011 at 10:15 PM

Congrats Packers and fans.

CWforFreedom on February 6, 2011 at 10:15 PM

And Obama’s KOD streak continues.

powerpro on February 6, 2011 at 10:15 PM

I am glad to see the unindicted felon and the team supported by Barry lost.

bayview on February 6, 2011 at 10:16 PM

I love the Steelers and really wanted them to win… but damn, those Packers played an excellent game. Well done.

myrenovations on February 6, 2011 at 10:16 PM

Ed oughta consider doing an Obama KOD thread. After hexing the Steelers, he’s just gotta…..

ted c on February 6, 2011 at 10:16 PM

Roger Staubach… the reason that I, a female, loves football!

skeedro on February 6, 2011 at 10:16 PM

Obama is the Packers’ MVP!

profitsbeard on February 6, 2011 at 10:17 PM

myrenovations- while they dropped a few balls they protected the ball. Obviously the key .

CWforFreedom on February 6, 2011 at 10:17 PM

lmao

skeedro on February 6, 2011 at 10:18 PM

Having missed the BEP half time Obama Song, I just got wind of it.

Amendment X on February 6, 2011 at 10:18 PM

Im sure Greta Van Susteren will be ecstatic tomorrow.

SouthernGent on February 6, 2011 at 10:18 PM

Hey, it’s only a month till March Madness starts…I’m sure there’s a helluva lotta teams pining for Obama’s endorsement…..oh wait!

ted c on February 6, 2011 at 10:19 PM

Roger Staubach and Terry Bradshaw, standing together smiling.

That’s not a Superbowl picture I could have ever imagined…but it was neat.

cozmo on February 6, 2011 at 10:19 PM

Roger Staubach… the reason that I, a female, loves football!

skeedro on February 6, 2011 at 10:16 PM

Megadittos

ace tomato on February 6, 2011 at 10:19 PM

Having missed the BEP half time Obama Song, I just got wind of it.

Amendment X on February 6, 2011 at 10:18 PM

Yeah, what was that about? I missed it. (I hate Black Eyed Peas)

IrishEi on February 6, 2011 at 10:19 PM

Having missed the BEP half time Obama Song, I just got wind of it.

See, it still smells.

ace tomato on February 6, 2011 at 10:20 PM

and now, NASCAR begins!!!!

skeedro on February 6, 2011 at 10:20 PM

Green Bay’s Aaron Rodgers is not only Super Bowl MVP, but the former quarterback of the California Golden Bears!

Emperor Norton on February 6, 2011 at 10:21 PM

Loved Jennings’ “To God be the glory” praise after the Packers won.

Wethal on February 6, 2011 at 10:21 PM

dam why did Obama have to jinx the steelers. He would mess up a wet dream

unseen on February 6, 2011 at 10:22 PM

Obama’s worse than the Sports Illustrated cover jinx.

PatMac on February 6, 2011 at 10:22 PM

Having missed the BEP half time Obama Song, I just got wind of it.

Amendment X on February 6, 2011 at 10:18 PM

Yeah, what was that about? I missed it. (I hate Black Eyed Peas)

IrishEi on February 6, 2011 at 10:19 PM

Ya didn’t miss much just some felons broke outta prison ripped off the set of star wars and showed up on the Battlestar Galactica stage and chanted some crap to some reverb or something.

Generally speaking it sucked!

dhunter on February 6, 2011 at 10:22 PM

and now, NASCAR begins!!!!

skeedro on February 6, 2011 at 10:20 PM

It’s on to the Kentucky Derby Trail for me.

Thoroughbred racing. Catch us if you can!

predator on February 6, 2011 at 10:23 PM

unseen on February 6, 2011 at 10:22 PM

LMAO!!!!!

ladyingray on February 6, 2011 at 10:24 PM

“Chevy Runs Deep”

So does our National Debt…

Seven Percent Solution on February 6, 2011 at 10:24 PM

Yes, there is a God! My prayers were answered tonight. Satan’s team was laid low.

WordsMatter on February 6, 2011 at 10:24 PM

I hope OBlah Blah publishes his Final for and sweet sixteen picks. I bet it moves the Vegas line if he does.

dhunter on February 6, 2011 at 10:24 PM

Ya didn’t miss much just some felons broke outta prison ripped off the set of star wars and showed up on the Battlestar Galactica stage and chanted some crap to some reverb or something.

Generally speaking it sucked!

dhunter on February 6, 2011 at 10:22 PM

it sucked, but they did endorse obama. Guess BEP know a loser when they see one.

ted c on February 6, 2011 at 10:24 PM

…and now, NASCAR begins!!!!

skeedro on February 6, 2011 at 10:20 PM

Legendary Sh!t

Ugly on February 6, 2011 at 10:24 PM

I wonder what Brett Favre is texting now…?

itsnotaboutme on February 6, 2011 at 10:24 PM

congrats green bay…

cmsinaz on February 6, 2011 at 10:25 PM

I wonder what Brett Favre is texting now…?

itsnotaboutme on February 6, 2011 at 10:24 PM

icanplaynextyearingbfor100mill$?

ted c on February 6, 2011 at 10:27 PM

Rapistberger loses.

Hallelujah!

FlatFoot on February 6, 2011 at 10:27 PM

I wonder what Brett Favre is texting now…?

itsnotaboutme on February 6, 2011 at 10:24 PM

Something to do with his junk, if he holds true to form.

predator on February 6, 2011 at 10:27 PM

I wonder what Brett Favre is texting now…?

itsnotaboutme on February 6, 2011 at 10:24 PM

icanplaynextyearingbfor100mill$?

ted c on February 6, 2011 at 10:27 PM

RT @favre: no, but can we see your johnson?

RT @GBpack: sure! here it is!

ted c on February 6, 2011 at 10:28 PM

Congrats to the Packers for holding onto the ball and not taking clumsy risks!

profitsbeard on February 6, 2011 at 10:30 PM

I watched the Shopping Network during halftime – better than BEP.

The Steelers gave the damn football away three times and still almost pulled it out at the end.

Siddhartha Vicious on February 6, 2011 at 10:32 PM

Siddhartha Vicious on February 6, 2011 at 10:32 PM

hallucinations

skeedro on February 6, 2011 at 10:34 PM

I can say that now. Cause “we won”. LOLOLOLOL

skeedro on February 6, 2011 at 10:34 PM

Was that car that was given away a Chevy Volt…?

… Oh, wait!

Seven Percent Solution on February 6, 2011 at 10:35 PM

Not that anyone cares, but don’t you find it a bit ridiculous that they all but left Reagan out of the Michael Douglas video prior to the game on his 100th birthday? They gave special mention to Kennedy and MLK, though. Whatever, it just pisses me off. What exactly did Kennedy achieve again? Pfff.

Levinite on February 6, 2011 at 10:35 PM

Each team played to epic levels. Props to both.

Del Dolemonte on February 6, 2011 at 10:36 PM

still almost pulled it out at the end.

“I almost threw a ringer that time.”

“I almost dodged that grenade in time.”

“I almost pulled out in time.”

predator on February 6, 2011 at 10:36 PM

Play of the game*……Rodgers to Jennings on a bullet up the middle….third down with less than eight minutes left.

*Green Bay Packers at 7:34
3rd and 10 at GB 25 (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass deep middle to G.Jennings to PIT 44 for 31 yards (T.Polamalu).

Rovin on February 6, 2011 at 10:37 PM

I can say that now. Cause “we won”. LOLOLOLOL

skeedro on February 6, 2011 at 10:34 PM

Yeah…

… I must have missed you on the field, but I guess you did a good job.

Are going to Disneyland too…?

Seven Percent Solution on February 6, 2011 at 10:37 PM

Just flipped over to FOX and the O interview is on. For what it’s worth.

IrishEi on February 6, 2011 at 10:40 PM

If Obama’s call on Egypt is as good as his call on the Superbowl, Egypt is f****d.

ace tomato on February 6, 2011 at 10:41 PM

Seven Percent Solution on February 6, 2011 at 10:37 PM

Don’t be hatin’.

skeedro on February 6, 2011 at 10:44 PM

Game’s over. It’s time to party. Why so serious? Let’s lighten up. Post some jokes, vids, have a little fun. WTF?

predator on February 6, 2011 at 10:47 PM

G.W. Bush on hindsight:

Now hindsight is only what you look back and see. It does not make it true. Truth is honesty and that’s the best way to tell the truth.

I love and admire GW. Damn, he has a way with words.

skeedro on February 6, 2011 at 10:47 PM

Sh!t. Did everybody pass out?

predator on February 6, 2011 at 10:48 PM

I think jeff2161 got drunk and passed out. Proves my point. Drink slow and steady and last the night.

predator on February 6, 2011 at 10:49 PM

Uh…didn’t the Giants win three on the road in ’07?

Anyway, hit on the Packers/over reverse tonight so it was a great game indeed.

Could’ve used a Fergie wardrobe malfunction to make that train wreck of a halftime watchable, but that’s another story.

russcote on February 6, 2011 at 10:49 PM

Black Eyed Peas. Worst. Half. Time. Show. Ever.

Even without that love song to Obama, it was awful. Looked like a bad MTV video from 1982.

angryed on February 6, 2011 at 10:50 PM

GAWD!!

That blonde ditz screeching out the National Anthem was AWFUL!!

She actually screwed up the words!!

Who hires these phony plastic broads anyway?

bannedbyhuffpo on February 6, 2011 at 10:50 PM

proof that the transcriper of the CBN Palin interview did a hatchet job on Gov Palin:

Watch the interview and compare what she says to what the transcript said. Notice any major um’s urh or massive run on sentences? the transcript left out her pauses and did a crap job. This interview is really good. between the steelers loss and seeing the hatchet job the CBN staffer tried to do to Gov Palin in a grea tinterview I am really pissed off tonight…

http://blogs.cbn.com/thebrodyfile/archive/2011/02/05/exclusive-sarah-palin-interview-with-the-brody-file.aspx

and yes the transcript has been cleaned up but that didn’t stop HOtAIR from posting the hatchet job last night.

unseen on February 6, 2011 at 10:52 PM

Roger Staubach… the reason that I, a female, loves football
skeedro on February 6, 2011 at 10:16 PM

Terry Bradshaw…the reason that I, a female, loves football (followed closely by Franco Harris)

lonestar1 on February 6, 2011 at 10:52 PM

bannedbyhuffpo on February 6, 2011 at 10:50 PM

I posted this earlier. I’ll do it again just for you. This is how the Anthem should be performed–always.

http://tinyurl.com/9qktzz

predator on February 6, 2011 at 10:54 PM

Wow, that was the *crappiest* halftime show I’ve ever seen.

*Crap* is embarrassed by how crappy that was.

Midas on February 6, 2011 at 10:54 PM

Having missed the BEP half time Obama Song, I just got wind of it.

Amendment X on February 6, 2011 at 10:18 PM

Yeah, what was that about? I missed it. (I hate Black Eyed Peas)

IrishEi on February 6, 2011 at 10:19 PM
Ya didn’t miss much just some felons broke outta prison ripped off the set of star wars and showed up on the Battlestar Galactica stage and chanted some crap to some reverb or something.

Generally speaking it sucked!

dhunter on February 6, 2011 at 10:22 PM

I was thinking WiAM just did what he always does and ripped off another act. In this case Daft Punk. A group he has ripped off before. I love how half the V in the we “Love” O the USA needs to be nicer to the world part was broken. The only decent part was when they started to cover “Sweet Child O’ Mine” with help from Slash. Then the no talent I here for my looks started singing.

cobrakai99 on February 6, 2011 at 10:55 PM

This should have been a blowout by Green Bay. Nelson drops three passes including a certain touchdown, and they also lost two key players. Ben was throwing the ball all over the field, it should not have been this close.

cannonball on February 6, 2011 at 10:55 PM

Black Eyed Peas. Worst. Half. Time. Show. Ever.

Even without that love song to Obama, it was awful. Looked like a bad MTV video from 1982.

angryed on February 6, 2011 at 10:50 PM

My first reaction was “Jackson’s Victory Tour”. Nice costumes, roflmao. That entire thing was beyond pathetic.

Midas on February 6, 2011 at 10:56 PM

Terry Bradshaw…the reason that I, a female, loves football (followed closely by Franco Harris)

lonestar1 on February 6, 2011 at 10:52 PM

Jack Ham fan here!

ladyingray on February 6, 2011 at 10:57 PM

This should have been a blowout by Green Bay. Nelson drops three passes including a certain touchdown, and they also lost two key players. Ben was throwing the ball all over the field, it should not have been this close.

cannonball on February 6, 2011 at 10:55 PM

and you can make a cas eif not for the turnovers the steelers would have won 25 to 17. your point? The game was the game. both sides screwed up some tha tis what football is about. Sadly the steelers couldn’t come back for their mistakes and green bay was able to brush off theirs. That is what football is about.

unseen on February 6, 2011 at 10:58 PM

Steelers to beat the Packers by a touchdown, 27-20.

Unfortunately, not this time Cap’n Ed.

It was a good game though, instead of the boring blowouts that happen too many years. Closest since the Giants came back to ruin the Patriots’ perfect season a couple of years back.

Better luck next year.

RocketmanBob on February 6, 2011 at 10:59 PM

Oh, the halftime show reminded me of something….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2j5nCHyu8w&feature=related

Yeah…that’s it. But not as good.

Asher on February 6, 2011 at 11:00 PM

Worst Superbowl in every way. Anthem bombed. Halftime show incredibly awful. Subpar commercials. Packers victory. LAME!

Grafted on February 6, 2011 at 11:01 PM

Yeah…

… I must have missed you on the field, but I guess you did a good job.

Are going to Disneyland too…?

Picky. Not defending classless rubbing it in (whether or not that is what happened here), but it is natural for fans to use “we”; in fact Green Bay’s top exec essentially did that on the podium, Goddell would certainly encourage it, and no one can begrudge Steeler fans for using it when they won their Super Bowls.

Helluva game, and while I “hate” the Steelers, I respect them as an organization, as I do the Packers.

churchill995 on February 6, 2011 at 11:02 PM

Black Eyed Peas. Worst. Half. Time. Show. Ever.

Even without that love song to Obama, it was awful. Looked like a bad MTV video from 1982.

angryed on February 6, 2011 at 10:50 PM
My first reaction was “Jackson’s Victory Tour”. Nice costumes, roflmao. That entire thing was beyond pathetic.

Midas on February 6, 2011 at 10:56 PM

I wonder about these halftime shows. They always show the people up around the stage having a blast and “getting into it” and such. I think those folks are selected. They have to be part of the show. But what about the people in the stands? Are they getting off on this crap? Do they ever show the stands during these things?

My sense is they are either sitting on their hands, or they’re out in the concourse getting refreshments, stretching their legs, or just getting as far away from that crap as they can.

I’m not a big Christian rock fan, but I do think Go Fish does some pretty nice music. I just wonder what fan reaction would be, you know, the real fans in the stands would do if someone like that performed. They wouldn’t have to have all those “faux fans” up close to the stage because the people in the stands might actually stay and watch and cheer?

How about any performer that wasn’t dirt bag, hip-hop, gutter level entertainment? Maybe Mrs. Roger Goodell-Skinner should consider that sometime.

Well hell. I wanted to lighten up, and now look at me getting all into a serious rant. *sigh*

predator on February 6, 2011 at 11:05 PM

Those BEP costumes appeared to be cribbed from old school KISS costumes. The shoulder pads, glitter, black, silver accents.

http://www.kenkellyart.com/kiss/KissPencil.jpg

http://www.kisscostumes.com/

say it ain’t so.?

unoriginal fergie ferg and will.i.ain’t

ted c on February 6, 2011 at 11:06 PM

Was I the only one who got enjoyment from Rosanne Barr being hit with a tree?

Wolftech on February 6, 2011 at 11:08 PM

profitsbeard

sorry. your guys worked too hard to come from so far behind for such a deflating ending.

they play the game the right way and if the O-Line gets that one more guy and Pouncey back the team will contend for the title for a while.

audiculous on February 6, 2011 at 11:08 PM

Was I the only one who got enjoyment from Rosanne Barr being hit with a tree?

Wolftech on February 6, 2011 at 11:08 PM

dude, that was great!

“My back hurts!” SMACK! “Now my front hurts tooo….!”

ted c on February 6, 2011 at 11:09 PM

Was I the only one who got enjoyment from Rosanne Barr being hit with a tree?

Wolftech on February 6, 2011 at 11:08 PM

I think I need help. I got a woody from Rosanne getting hit with a tree.

predator on February 6, 2011 at 11:09 PM

Roseanne getting hit by a tree. Best hit of the night.

john1schn on February 6, 2011 at 11:11 PM

I just got back from an SB party held by a local church.
My mother;s from Pittsburgh so I was rooting for the Steelers but still…football is sooo boring. I just don’t get it.
Give me a Cubs game any day.
What part of the anthem did CA flub. I was listening but I was so wrapped up in patriotic fervor…okay-I wasn’t listening.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 6, 2011 at 11:12 PM

Well, what can I say…Obama jinxed us. Told ya so!

ProudPalinFan on February 6, 2011 at 11:14 PM

Roseanne getting hit by a tree. Best hit of the night.

john1schn on February 6, 2011 at 11:11 PM

Woody Woodpecker agrees:

http://tinyurl.com/35r4238

predator on February 6, 2011 at 11:16 PM

Way to pick ‘em POTUS.

ted c on February 6, 2011 at 10:10 PM

Fixed it.

Jeff2161 on February 6, 2011 at 11:17 PM

As far as the Ads go-I like the ‘House’ take on the Mean Joe Green ad, the one with the smiling ‘beetle’, and the pug that wanted Doritos.
Every time the Go Daddy ads came on the pastor covered the lense(They used pc to project it onto a screen-with his hand.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 6, 2011 at 11:17 PM

Was I the only one who got enjoyment from Rosanne Barr being hit with a tree?

Wolftech on February 6, 2011 at 11:08 PM

Brought tears to these eyes.

Rovin on February 6, 2011 at 11:17 PM

Great game. How lucky is Green Bay to lose a HOF quarterback and have it actually turn out to be an upgrade at the position?

RightOFLeft on February 6, 2011 at 11:18 PM

Was I the only one who got enjoyment from Rosanne Barr being hit with a tree?

Wolftech on February 6, 2011 at 11:08 PM

Second-biggest cheer of the night at my sister’s (the biggest being the 4th-down incompletion to end the Steelers’ last drive).

steveegg on February 6, 2011 at 11:19 PM

Jack Ham fan here!

ladyingray on February 6, 2011 at 10:57 PM

Did you say Ham? MKH fan here ;-)

steveegg on February 6, 2011 at 11:21 PM

Other awesome commercial was the Doritos ad with the guy that revived the fish, the plant and grampas ashes back to life with Doritos crumbs. awesome

also loved the Audi ad with the guys trapped in the same old luxury in the jail.

ted c on February 6, 2011 at 11:24 PM

churchill995 on February 6, 2011 at 11:02 PM

Didn’t see you on the field either…

/

Seven Percent Solution on February 6, 2011 at 11:25 PM

Roger Staubach… the reason that I, a female, loves football!

skeedro on February 6, 2011 at 10:16 PM

I am a Steelers fan, but he does wear a 12 on his jersey…I have a strong connection with the number 12.

ProudPalinFan on February 6, 2011 at 11:26 PM

Ben Raunchyburger goes down. Fuc% the Steelers and their lowlife QB.

Jaibones on February 6, 2011 at 11:28 PM

What part of the anthem did CA flub. I was listening but I was so wrapped up in patriotic fervor…okay-I wasn’t listening.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 6, 2011 at 11:12 PM

http://www.popeater.com/2011/02/06/christina-aguilera-national-anthem-super-bowl/?icid=main%7Chp-desktop%7Cdl3%7Csec1_lnk3%7C199682

Christina Aguilera, always a pro singing the national anthem, couldn’t make it through the Star Spangled Banner before the kickoff of Super Bowl XLV. Aguliera, who has handled the task without issue before NBA games, botched the lyrics badly halfway through the song.

Instead of “‘O’er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming” turned into “what so proudly we watched at the twilight’s last [unintelligable lyric].”

Luckily, Aguilera had the quick, crowd-rousing “rocket’s red glare” line to follow it up, which she nailed and got the packed Cowboys Stadium quickly on her side.

Still, our eyewitnesses in Dallas tell us that the crowd had some drastic reactions. “This was the biggest performance of her career and she blew it,” a source with a VIP view tells me. “To mess up the lyrics was a disaster.”

churchill995 on February 6, 2011 at 11:29 PM

football is sooo boring. I just don’t get it.
Give me a Cubs game any day.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 6, 2011 at 11:12 PM

Because nothing says excitement like a baseball team that hasn’t won a World Series in over 100 years…

Jaibones on February 6, 2011 at 11:29 PM

Terry Bradshaw…the reason that I, a female, loves football (followed closely by Franco Harris)

lonestar1 on February 6, 2011 at 10:52 PM

Jack Ham fan here!

ladyingray on February 6, 2011 at 10:57 PM

John Elway here.

Say maybe the Bronco’s could sign the log that got Rosanne. I could have watched that one more than once.

BEP was AWFUL!

My sixteen-year-old though that Slash showed a lot of restraint when Fergie was draped all over him.

“I wouldn’t be able to play if she was doing that”, he said. “I would have slapped her with the guitar and yelled “Get off me, woman!…Can’t you see I’m trying to play here?”

I loved the little Darth Vader ad. So like a dad to mess with his kid’s head like that.

Lily on February 6, 2011 at 11:31 PM

churchill995 on February 6, 2011 at 11:02 PM
Didn’t see you on the field either…

/

Seven Percent Solution on February 6, 2011 at 11:25 PM

LOL. You won’t anytime soon – if ever – given my home team is the Mike Brown run Bengals. :-(

churchill995 on February 6, 2011 at 11:31 PM

My first reaction was “Jackson’s Victory Tour”. Nice costumes, roflmao. That entire thing was beyond pathetic.

Midas on February 6, 2011 at 10:56 PM

What a total skankfest.

Jaibones on February 6, 2011 at 11:31 PM

churchill995 on February 6, 2011 at 11:02 PM
Didn’t see you on the field either…

/

Seven Percent Solution on February 6, 2011 at 11:25 PM

Ahhh, but churchill was on those fields.

http://tinyurl.com/3td25h

predator on February 6, 2011 at 11:32 PM

Congratulations to the Packers, they beat a great team so they deserve it.

The Steeler Nation will have to wait for big #7, maybe next year.

Bishop on February 6, 2011 at 11:32 PM

football is sooo boring. I just don’t get it.
Give me a Cubs game horse race any day.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 6, 2011 at 11:12 PM
fify

predator on February 6, 2011 at 11:34 PM

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