McCain Hits Rummy Over Memoir

posted at 12:14 pm on February 3, 2011 by Matt Lewis

Former Secretary of Defense Don Rumsfeld is coming out with a new memoir on February 8.  Early reports note he takes some shots at former colleagues, and expresses no regrets for the war in Iraq.

According to ABC News, Rumsfeld

criticizes other members of the Bush national security team — Condoleezza Rice, Colin Powell and, especially, Iraq administrator Paul Bremer.

“There were far too many hands on the steering wheel, which, in my view, was a formula for running the truck into a ditch,” he wrote.

As for Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and other critics who had at first supported the Iraq war, Rumsfeld wrote: “You wouldn’t want to be in a foxhole with them.”

And The Washington Post notes,

… Rumsfeld still can’t resist – in a memoir due out next week – taking a few pops at former secretaries of state Colin L. Powell and Condoleezza Rice as well as at some lawmakers and journalists. He goes so far as to depict former president George W. Bush as presiding over a national security process that was marked by incoherent decision-making and policy drift, most damagingly on the war in Iraq.

But so far, the most interesting response has come from Senator John McCain.

As George Stephanopolous reported,

“I respect Secretary Rumsfeld. He and I had a very, very strong difference of opinion about the strategy that he was employing in Iraq which I predicted was doomed to failure,” the Arizona Republican said on “GMA.”

McCain and Rumsfeld had clashed over troop levels.

“And thank God he was relieved of his duties and we put the surge in otherwise we would have had a disastrous defeat in Iraq,” McCain told me.


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Too bad you weren’t relieved of your duties, “Maverick.”

fossten on February 3, 2011 at 12:17 PM

McCain again? I guess he had a nice little visit with his buddy Barack the other day…..

sandee on February 3, 2011 at 12:18 PM

Too bad McCain wasn’t able to keep his own campaign from a disastrous defeat.

erp on February 3, 2011 at 12:18 PM

I don’t hate Rumsfeld, but I wish he was replaced 2 years earlier than he was…

ninjapirate on February 3, 2011 at 12:19 PM

Former Secretary of State Defense Don Rumsfeld is coming out with a new memoir on February 8.

CDeb on February 3, 2011 at 12:19 PM

Not much more I can say at this point. It has already been said by the above post.

hawkman on February 3, 2011 at 12:19 PM

Too bad McCain wasn’t able to keep his own campaign from a disastrous defeat.

erp on February 3, 2011 at 12:18 PM

The only disaster with McCain campaign, was the candidate.

jake-the-goose on February 3, 2011 at 12:21 PM

Defense.

Weight of Glory on February 3, 2011 at 12:21 PM

“There were far too many hands on the steering wheel, which, in my view, was a formula for running the truck into a ditch,” he wrote.

Toot many cooks spoil the broth. Especially when they’re all bickering with each other.

aengus on February 3, 2011 at 12:22 PM

John wants that Sec Def post so badly he can taste it. He’s hoping to stay alive till 2012 so he can show off his stuff.

a capella on February 3, 2011 at 12:23 PM

Hey John…

… How’s that fence coming along in Arizona?

Seven Percent Solution on February 3, 2011 at 12:23 PM

McCain is right. I really don’t see how anyone can defend Rumsfeld given his views on troop levels and the success of the surge. I never really understood why Rumsfeld is held in such high regard by some.

Mark1971 on February 3, 2011 at 12:23 PM

Too bad McCain wasn’t relieved into retirement! No wonder his daughter is a big mouth! A regular chip on the shoulder- type!

tomshup on February 3, 2011 at 12:26 PM

Too bad you weren’t relieved of your duties, “Maverick.”

fossten on February 3, 2011 at 12:17 PM

Looks like you and many others didn’t even bother reading the post let alone the whole article.

“I respect Secretary Rumsfeld. He and I had a very, very strong difference of opinion about the strategy that he was employing in Iraq which I predicted was doomed to failure,” the Arizona Republican said on “GMA.”
McCain and Rumsfeld had clashed over troop levels.
“And thank God he was relieved of his duties and we put the surge in otherwise we would have had a disastrous defeat in Iraq,” McCain told me.

DethMetalCookieMonst on February 3, 2011 at 12:26 PM

And thank God he was relieved of his duties

Too bad AZ didn’t relieve old Maverick of his position.

Now, about Iraq… yeah, things look peachy right about now…

MeatHeadinCA on February 3, 2011 at 12:26 PM

Why all of a sudden is McCain front and center again??

red131 on February 3, 2011 at 12:27 PM

McCain continues to cry out “look at me” when almost nobody is looking and those who may be are laughing.

SKYFOX on February 3, 2011 at 12:27 PM

John wants that Sec Def post so badly he can taste it. He’s hoping to stay alive till 2012 so he can show off his stuff.

a capella on February 3, 2011 at 12:23 PM

Oh if only Obama would give him the job now… then AZ could vote for someone else!

MeatHeadinCA on February 3, 2011 at 12:29 PM

McCain is right. I really don’t see how anyone can defend Rumsfeld given his views on troop levels and the success of the surge. I never really understood why Rumsfeld is held in such high regard by some.

Mark1971 on February 3, 2011 at 12:23 PM

You do realize that Rumsfeld was the original spokes person for a SURGE.

Huh, it work, what a freaking concept!

upinak on February 3, 2011 at 12:29 PM

Why all of a sudden is McCain front and center again??

red131 on February 3, 2011 at 12:27 PM

He borrowed his daughter’s hoohahs and pushed himself center stage! ;)

MeatHeadinCA on February 3, 2011 at 12:29 PM

You do realize that Rumsfeld was the original spokes person for a SURGE.

When?

Mark1971 on February 3, 2011 at 12:30 PM

When was Rumsfeld the Secretary of State? I thought he was Secretary of Defense.

RhymesWithRight on February 3, 2011 at 12:31 PM

SecDef
Not SecState.

He did some good and some bad.

Restructuring the Army was smart and overdue.

But he wanted to get in and get out quick in Iraq so bad, that he almost rode a bad plan down in flames. It did cost him his job. It was a case of wishfull thinking blinding him to reality – and not just him…

DJ Elliott on February 3, 2011 at 12:32 PM

the mccains are such haters. i guess meghan had to learn it from somewhere.

anna on February 3, 2011 at 12:33 PM

From what I understand, Rumsfeld wanted to go in with more troops to begin with and do a scorched earth policy. Overwhelming force.

Vince on February 3, 2011 at 12:35 PM

You do realize that Rumsfeld was the original spokes person for a SURGE.

upinak on February 3, 2011 at 12:29 PM

nope.

sesquipedalian on February 3, 2011 at 12:35 PM

From what I understand, Rumsfeld wanted to go in with more troops to begin with and do a scorched earth policy. Overwhelming force.

Vince on February 3, 2011 at 12:35 PM

In and out quickly but with shock and awe.

Vince on February 3, 2011 at 12:37 PM

So I guess Allah and Ed have let the Green Room take over?

upinak on February 3, 2011 at 12:37 PM

“Plus, Rumsfeld is a poopy-head” – Meggie Mac

joejm65 on February 3, 2011 at 12:38 PM

So I guess Allah and Ed have let the Green Room take over?

upinak on February 3, 2011 at 12:37 PM

I think Ed is traveling (not sure), and Allah is probably still sleeping (sure).

joejm65 on February 3, 2011 at 12:39 PM

I don’t hate Rumsfeld, but I wish he was replaced 2 years earlier than he was…ninjapirate on February 3, 2011 at 12:19 PM

The Surge wouldn’t have worked without the Anbar Awakening. If it had been tried 2 years earlier, it would have failed.

Basilsbest on February 3, 2011 at 12:39 PM

When?

Mark1971 on February 3, 2011 at 12:30 PM

From the beginning. He never wanted this to go on and on. I remember he said it would have been faster to use planes like the first gulf war, but people complained about the masses and possible deaths and wanted more ground troops to “filter” out the people.

sesquipedalian on February 3, 2011 at 12:35 PM

Let me think, you linked to the economist yesterday on Gloval warming.. I don’t even want to know what MSM talking point you are linking to now.

upinak on February 3, 2011 at 12:40 PM

From what I understand, Rumsfeld wanted to go in with more troops to begin with and do a scorched earth policy. Overwhelming force.

Vince on February 3, 2011 at 12:35 PM

sheesh.

sesquipedalian on February 3, 2011 at 12:41 PM

I thought McCain was too busy giving cover to Obama on Egypt to be doing anything else.

Basilsbest on February 3, 2011 at 12:42 PM

Yawn…John, you fall into the Known-Known category. And the more we know, the less we like.

Christien on February 3, 2011 at 12:42 PM

In and out quickly but with shock and awe.

Vince on February 3, 2011 at 12:37 PM

exactly… but no one will talk about who kept him back.

upinak on February 3, 2011 at 12:42 PM

Why all of a sudden is McCain front and center again??

red131 on February 3, 2011 at 12:27 PM

In the interest of civilty and bi-partisanship Juan Fernando McCain is running wingman for OBlahBlah in his run-up to 2012!
He is OBlahBlahs’ useful RINO idiot in matters affecting Egypt now that he and OBlahBlah have been consulting , when the deal goes badly for the U.S. but goodly for the Mooslim Bruthahood OBlah Blah will say he consulted with Juan Fernando McCain the mideastern and amnasty expert!

dhunter on February 3, 2011 at 12:43 PM

Rjumsfeld was a typical politician that we found during the Vietnam era. Although I believe he wanted overwheming force initially, along with Gen. Powell, he then fell back on the CYA strategy.

Vince on February 3, 2011 at 12:43 PM

I just wish McCain would go away, go away, go away…

OmahaConservative on February 3, 2011 at 12:44 PM

and, especially, Iraq administrator Paul Bremer.

Read the Iraq Constitution implemented under Bremer and note the date it was signed. That’s the exact date we lost Iraq.

Might note all the sharia stuff in it as well.

BowHuntingTexas on February 3, 2011 at 12:46 PM

He goes so far as to depict former president George W. Bush as presiding over a national security process that was marked by incoherent decision-making and policy drift, most damagingly on the war in Iraq.

Well we jacked around in Iraq for nearly 6 years while Bush was in the White House and wouldn’t let the Generals actually WIN THE WAR, and we lost American blood and treasure so………….who’s right here?

PappyD61 on February 3, 2011 at 12:46 PM

Here’s a thought, John. Go read Rumsfeld’s book before making hair-trigger remarks to the media.

Christien on February 3, 2011 at 12:47 PM

and please McCain?

The leader of the disaster in 2008 that left us with Hussein Obama about to hand over Eqypt to the radical Muslims?

Hey McCain…….direct a WINNING Presidential campaign and stop whoring for the attention of the MSM and we’ll listen.

PappyD61 on February 3, 2011 at 12:48 PM

Stars are hot.
HotAir commenter on February 3, 2011 at 12:39 PM

NO!
sesquipedalian on February 3, 2011 at 12:42 PM

Bishop on February 3, 2011 at 12:49 PM

Too bad McCain wasn’t able to keep his own campaign from a disastrous defeat.

erp on February 3, 2011 at 12:18 PM

No, that was a good thing. We needed a big dose of castor obama to “clean us out” as Grandma would say…

cartooner on February 3, 2011 at 12:49 PM

Looks like you and many others didn’t even bother reading the post let alone the whole article.

DethMetalCookieMonst on February 3, 2011 at 12:26 PM

Um, how does my post in any way indicate that I didn’t read the article? My statement stands on its own. Looks like somebody’s being presumptuous.

fossten on February 3, 2011 at 12:50 PM

I don’t hate Rumsfeld, but I wish he was replaced 2 years earlier than he was…

ninjapirate on February 3, 2011 at 12:19 PM

Indeed, his task was to transform a peacetime DoD, he wasn’t as strong as a wartime SecDef.

jnelchef on February 3, 2011 at 12:51 PM

McCain…….Posturer in Chief.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0lwusMxiHc

PappyD61 on February 3, 2011 at 12:51 PM

Hey McCain…….direct a WINNING Presidential campaign and stop whoring for the attention of the MSM and we’ll listen.

PappyD61 on February 3, 2011 at 12:48 PM

Aw c’mon, Pappy, don’t encourage him!

cartooner on February 3, 2011 at 12:51 PM

This article does not cite any references or sources.

sheesh.

sesquipedalian on February 3, 2011 at 12:41 PM

What? You seem to link to BS a lot! Did you even know who Rumsfeld was or anything about him before Iraq? Dumbazz.

Vince on February 3, 2011 at 12:51 PM

From the beginning. He never wanted this to go on and on. I remember he said it would have been faster to use planes like the first gulf war, but people complained about the masses and possible deaths and wanted more ground troops to “filter” out the people. sesquipedalian on February 3, 2011 at 12:35 PM

You are thinking of Powell. He wanted Overwhelming Force – which wouldn’t have worked because the Iraqis would never have stood up. The Demoncrats and MSM would have been demanding a withdrawal after 6 months – because of the cost- if Powell’s apprach had been taken. The insurgency would have stood down until we left.

Rumsfeld’s approach was the correct one. The only way to succeed was with a light footprint. Bush failed Rumsfeld and the war effort miserably with his inability to articulate the reality of the situation. He let the Demoncrats and MSM completely control the narrative.

I swear that can count on one hand the number of people who understand the role that Al Qaeda played in lengthening the war by bombing The Golden Mosque in Samara in February 2006. Al Qaeda announced that Iraq was the central front in its war against the United States. It seems very few people have factored this announcement – or the actions of al Qaeda s that followed – into their assessment of the Iraq War.

Basilsbest on February 3, 2011 at 12:55 PM

Former Secretary of State Defense Don Rumsfeld is coming out with a new memoir on February 8.

CDeb on February 3, 2011 at 12:19 PM

Oops. Looks like HA needs some layers of fact checkers.

DaydreamBeliever on February 3, 2011 at 12:58 PM

This article does not cite any references or sources.

…Did you even know who Rumsfeld was or anything about him before Iraq? Dumbazz.

Vince on February 3, 2011 at 12:51 PM

you’re the one who needs sources to find out what the rumsfeld doctrine is.

sesquipedalian on February 3, 2011 at 1:00 PM

dang it…it didn’t take 20 seconds after the election to revert back to his RINO ways….

sorry america :(

his political machine is huge here in az

cmsinaz on February 3, 2011 at 1:04 PM

can’t wait to read it…don’t care what those critics think

cmsinaz on February 3, 2011 at 1:04 PM

Look, I love bashing McCain as much as the next guy, but here he is spot on.

John was the ONLY real voice out there saying that if we didn’t get serious, we would get our butts kicked over there.

John may be a lot of things, but he knew what he was talking about. And thank God he did.

As for SecDef, yeah … that would be a great end to his career. I hope President Palin will consider it.

It would allow him to retire with some dignity, open up a Senate seat, and I think he would do quite well there.

gary4205 on February 3, 2011 at 1:04 PM

Loser had to spend 41 million of his wife’s beer money just to get re-elected. McCain could not run for dog catcher and get elected. Talk all he wants, he will not get an audience anywhere except MSNBC and that ain’t much of an audience.

Angry Dumbo on February 3, 2011 at 1:05 PM

Bishop on February 3, 2011 at 12:49 PM

LOL!

Sir Napsalot on February 3, 2011 at 1:06 PM

his political machine is huge here in az

cmsinaz on February 3, 2011 at 1:04 PM

Thanks for the apology but a defeat would have been better.

Now I suppose we can look forward to that dunkin donuts spawn of his running for his seat when the Senile Senator from AZ finally retires after many golden years of screwing the Republic!

dhunter on February 3, 2011 at 1:07 PM

McCain was right about troop levels and he was wrong. We wouldn’t have had the surge or General Petraeus if it were up to Rumsfeld. In other words we would have lost the war instead of won it.

” Too bad McCain wasn’t able to keep his own campaign from a disastrous defeat.

erp on February 3, 2011 at 12:18 PM

No, that was a good thing. We needed a big dose of castor obama to “clean us out” as Grandma would say…

cartooner on February 3, 2011 at 12:49 PM

I can’t believe there is anyone on earth stupid enough to still believe that at this point.

Boxy_Brown on February 3, 2011 at 1:07 PM

Bishop on February 3, 2011 at 12:49 PM

you’re wrong.

sesquipedalian on February 3, 2011 at 1:08 PM

I wish Bush would have lost in 2004. We would have had Kerry but he is just an idiot.

Sporty1946 on February 3, 2011 at 1:08 PM

Rumsfeld gave an interview a couple of years ago where he defended his decision to keep troop levels low- at the number requested by the Generals in charge on the ground.

“The more troops you have there, the more force protection you need, the more food you need, the more water you need, the more convoys you need, the more airplanes you need, and the more people get killed, the more targets there are.”

He also pointed out the tension between too few and too many troops- too many play into the hands of extremists arguing that it was a war not of liberation but of conquest. I recommend the reading it.

I should also add that McCain’s attack on Rumsfeld is unworthy of him and his position. As I blogged at the time, McCain went from saying that Rumsfeld deserved the respect and gratitude of Americans to, a few months later during the election campaign, claiming that the Iraq War was mismanaged and that Rumsfeld will be remembered as one of the worst Sec Defs in history.

That’s some definition of gratitude and respect McCain has.

Jay Mac on February 3, 2011 at 1:08 PM

Um, how does my post in any way indicate that I didn’t read the article? My statement stands on its own. Looks like somebody’s being presumptuous.

fossten on February 3, 2011 at 12:50 PM

Either you didn’t read it or you’re just being a sore loser becaue your boy (whoever that may be) didn’t win the nom in 2008. What McCain said was apt, no matter what you think of the guy.

DethMetalCookieMonst on February 3, 2011 at 1:09 PM

Has Meagan McCain weighed in on this yet?

Akzed on February 3, 2011 at 1:12 PM

gary4205 on February 3, 2011 at 1:04 PM

Sorry I have to disagree here, Mccain, however honorable he may once have been while in uniform has in his long and disasterous Senate career been nothing short of a disaster and a thorn in the side of real Conservatives.
Best that the Senile Senator from AZ retire to an old folks home somewhere and do so quietly.

His dignity has long been squandered! Whats’ with these rich heiresses attaching themselves to moronic jerks?

Just to say they have a powerful husband?
One that they don’t actually have to have relations with just parade around like a puppy on a leash or a pet rock or something!

dhunter on February 3, 2011 at 1:15 PM

dhunter on February 3, 2011 at 1:07 PM

*shudder*
don’t even think that…

cmsinaz on February 3, 2011 at 1:15 PM

Basilsbest on February 3, 2011 at 12:55 PM

I’m sorry, but it’s insulting to General Petraeus in the extreme to act as though he didn’t have anything to do with the defeat of AQI. His counter-insurgency strategy – which is the diametric opposite of Rumsfeld’s light-footprint – succeeded in bringing about the Anbar Awakening, defeating AQI and bringing the Iraqi people around to the notion that AQI could be defeated, and a self-governing self-policing Iraq was possible.

Please do not buy into the stupid MFM’s oversimplification. The “surge” was not about adding more troops, it was about a radical change in strategy that required more troops.

If you honestly believe that Iraq going into a death spiral with Rumsfeld’s strategy, and then getting pulled out of it by Petraeus’ strategy is anything other than the former strategy being wrong and the latter one correct, you might as well be drinking fairy wine out of an acorn cap, discussing the finer points of Gryphon Husbandry with their comely queen. Because you are living in a f@*!king fantasy world.

apollyonbob on February 3, 2011 at 1:15 PM

PappyD61 on February 3, 2011 at 12:46 PM

Also, this wasn’t Vietnam. Several top generals were behind Rumsfeld’s strategy. I don’t know if you noticed, but Rumsfeld wasn’t the only person replaced for the surge. So was CENTCOM.

apollyonbob on February 3, 2011 at 1:17 PM

McCain must still be getting advice from that great strategist and international military schooler, Meghan McCain.

rplat on February 3, 2011 at 1:17 PM

Either you didn’t read it or you’re just being a sore loser becaue your boy (whoever that may be) didn’t win the nom in 2008. What McCain said was apt, no matter what you think of the guy.

DethMetalCookieMonst on February 3, 2011 at 1:09 PM

Where did I say that what he said wasn’t apt? That’s the crux of your shortsightedness here – you’re assuming I meant something other than what I said.

But thanks for playing “I’m a brave internet warrior and I know everything about somebody based on one thing they post.”

fossten on February 3, 2011 at 1:21 PM

Not sure who’s the more heavyweight annoyance….Daddy or Meggy McCain.

search4truth on February 3, 2011 at 1:21 PM

Read “Shadow Warriors” and you’ll understand Rumsfeld is right… Bremer prevented the installation of the multi-ethnic transitional government of Chilabi, and things went downhill from there…

phreshone on February 3, 2011 at 1:22 PM

McCain is such a petulant jerk. In many ways he has a lot in common with his victorious 2008 opponent.

Missy on February 3, 2011 at 1:22 PM

Hey McCain…….direct a WINNING Presidential campaign and stop whoring for the attention of the MSM and we’ll listen.

PappyD61 on February 3, 2011 at 12:48 PM
Aw c’mon, Pappy, don’t encourage him!
cartooner on February 3, 2011 at 12:51 PM

True, my mistake.

PappyD61 on February 3, 2011 at 1:27 PM

Oh cool – another McCain family faux pas thread where we all get to throw tomatoes at the phony bunch.

Count me in!

beatcanvas on February 3, 2011 at 1:29 PM

It’s really too bad that Rumsfeild ended up being the sacrificial scapegoat. He was one of the few people in the Bush administration that would fight against the narrative of the press.

Count to 10 on February 3, 2011 at 1:35 PM

Count to 10 on February 3, 2011 at 1:35 PM

Yep he just wasn’t civil and bi-partisan enough!

dhunter on February 3, 2011 at 1:37 PM

Has Meagan McCain weighed in on this yet?

Akzed on February 3, 2011 at 1:12 PM

She would tip the scales, imho

MeatHeadinCA on February 3, 2011 at 1:52 PM

“Thank God he was relieved of his duties…”

Darn. I was hoping that was Rumsfeld commenting on McCain.

andycanuck on February 3, 2011 at 2:11 PM

I’d still gladly trade you two McCains for a Rumsfeld.

tom on February 3, 2011 at 2:57 PM

Why all of a sudden is McCain front and center again??

red131 on February 3, 2011 at 12:27 PM

Because McCain is having a contest with Schumer to see who can get more face time in front of a camera and because McCain has been groomed by the administration to be the face of the (reasonable) Republicans. McCain and ObaMao are best buddies now, doncha know?

onlineanalyst on February 3, 2011 at 3:29 PM

In and out quickly but with shock and awe.

Vince on February 3, 2011 at 12:37 PM
exactly… but no one will talk about who kept him back.

upinak on February 3, 2011 at 12:42 PM

You are both correct. Rummy was not supportive of using troops for nation building.

onlineanalyst on February 3, 2011 at 3:34 PM

McCain’s one virtue was his ability to torment his North Vietnamese jailers. For that I am grateful. If only he had shut his gob and stayed out of public life he would be a cherished hero. Now he is merely a stone in our shoes.

wraithby on February 3, 2011 at 3:35 PM

McCain’s daughter Meghan is a chip off the ole block. Nuff said. As relevant as a three dollar bill.

volsense on February 3, 2011 at 3:56 PM

McCain Hits Rummy Over Memoir

John McCain attacking Conservatives… How usual.

RJL on February 3, 2011 at 4:16 PM

As for Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and other critics who had at first supported the Iraq war, Rumsfeld wrote: “You wouldn’t want to be in a foxhole with them.”

I have thought this exact same thing about many Democrats in general.

Rumsfeld is quite the man.

scotash on February 3, 2011 at 6:06 PM

I wish Bush would have lost in 2004. We would have had Kerry but he is just an idiot.

Sporty1946 on February 3, 2011 at 1:08 PM

The Supreme Court is too important to lose. We’d have conservatives in the minority for a generation had that happened. (Both Roberts and Alito were term 2) I do understand your sentiment though. Obama is worse than Kerry or Hillary.

scotash on February 3, 2011 at 6:13 PM

Where did I say that what he said wasn’t apt? That’s the crux of your shortsightedness here – you’re assuming I meant something other than what I said.

But thanks for playing “I’m a brave internet warrior and I know everything about somebody based on one thing they post.”

fossten on February 3, 2011 at 1:21 PM

Why would you say what you said (without a qualifier) unless you felt that what he said wasn’t apt?

DethMetalCookieMonst on February 3, 2011 at 6:34 PM

McCain was a great inspiration to his fellow POWs.

Since he got released and recovered from his physical injuries, he has been VASTLY overrated for his military acumen, vastly over rated as far as his sanity is concerned.

It is wonderful how the chairborne commandos here at Hot Air, (and all the political generals who only care about more toys to play with rather than winning wars) think Rumsfeld was an inept SecDef, and McCain the savior of Iraq.

Same kind of geniuses that think that the uprising in Egypt is all about them wanting democracy. Same kind of geniuses that want to re-fight WWII; that think that our current enemies are no different than the past ones.

Rumsfeld and Cheney are the only ones in high places over the last 10 years that actually ‘got it’…. And yet they are the most disparaged.

LegendHasIt on February 3, 2011 at 7:10 PM

Read the book. I’ve read excerpts and the guy seems a little nuts and nasty about his colleagues to boot. Oh Yeah… re read Rummies Rules before reading the book. It explains a lot.

Rummie would have been a great DoD Bureaucrat and he would have been best employed to review and reform the DoD rather than running a war.

Why W brought this guy on board I do not know. He was a true political enemy of his father and is not a friend of the Bush family. I know this first hand.

lexhamfox on February 3, 2011 at 7:50 PM

McCain sucks.

Rumsfeld lost me when he explained to a soldier in the field that “you go to war with the military you have, not the one you wish you had” when we could have easily prepared far better for rational eventualities (armored Humvees against IED’s, etc., etc.) and then went to war.

Don is good at getting into a fight, but not so good at fighting.

profitsbeard on February 3, 2011 at 8:05 PM

…LegendHasIt on February 3, 2011 at 7:10 PM

Spot on. The final chapter of Iraq has yet to be written. However, Turkey’s attempt to cripple the opening of the superb conquest of Iraq’s military; the Bush administration’s inability to articulate a easily understandable goal, e.g. to interfere with Iran’s attempted hegemony in the region; the American people’s short attention span with regard to goals that may actually take longer than a few years caused the Bush administration to pull up short. The Iraq war may demonstrate the folly of fighting a “p.c.” war, that of minimizing collateral damages to a ridiculous degree, and the big folly of believing that the press (adjunct of the Democrat party), as well as the Democrat party themselves wouldn’t do everything possible to undermine that which they supported initially (and stupidly deny this to this day), even when it involved their beloved “nation rebuilding”. Once again, our own State Dept, CIA, proved that they owe no fealty to our government in charge, apparently thinking of elected officials as short-termers who don’t really know what they are doing.
I applaud Bush’s initial efforts, and think that Cheney and Rumsfeld are 2 of his most inspired choices for assistants, and are true patriots.

trl on February 3, 2011 at 8:11 PM

I wouldn’t want McCain in my foxhole either.

More evidence that McCain is on the wrong side of history:

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/floor-speeches/142071-kerry-mccain-resolution-calls-for-transition-in-egypt

McCain and Graham have joined forces with Kerry and Klochebar to do Emperor ObaMao’s dirty work.

onlineanalyst on February 3, 2011 at 10:19 PM

onlineanalyst on February 3, 2011 at 10:20 PM

Rumsfeld and Cheney are the only ones in high places over the last 10 years that actually ‘got it’…. And yet they are the most disparaged.

LegendHasIt on February 3, 2011 at 7:10 PM

I second your opinion.

onlineanalyst on February 3, 2011 at 10:23 PM

apollyonbob on February 3, 2011 at 1:15 PM

I’m sorry, but you are living in a f@*!king fantasy world if you think I said anything that discounted the role of General Petraeus in the defeat of AQI.

You have serious reading comprehension problems. I merely said that the Surge would not have worked if it had been tried 2 years earlier. The Surge worked because it capitalized on and gave increased momentum to the Anbar Awakening. This does not in any way discount the heroic efforts of U.S. forces under the brilliant leadership of Petraeus.

That you would accuse me of buying into the stupid MFM oversimplification is bizarre. I read MNF-Iraq every day after the Surge and I am well aware that The Surge targeted al Qaeda and peace broke out. The MFM pretended that al Qaeda had nothing to do with the violence.

Basilsbest on February 3, 2011 at 10:43 PM

Count me in as a Rummy supporter. There are two many factors that went into the war we ended up with. Rummy did the best he could with the DoD he inherited. In reading the above comments, my thots are this:

1 Tactical vehicles: we didn’t have the armored HMMWVs etc that we should have due to a lack of imagination that predated the Iraqi war by almost a decade. To wit, where was the lesson learned from Somalia? Then came Bosnia. I saw the 1st up-armored HMMWV to get destroyed and the 1st M1114 blown up in that conflict. To my mind, armored vehicles, including 5-Tons and tactical trucks were the future. Alas, the powers that be at TACOM couldn’t see it and killed the program beyond churning out a few for MPs and Scouts. While Wesley Clark is a putz these days, he was a staunch supporter of armored wheeled vehicles. The armored wheeled vehicle proponents were shot down by the likes of Shinseki, who was more concerned about raising self-esteem by importing black berets from China, than building a fighting force. That and the usual turf war vs the combat vehicle crowd that was pulling for the latest and greatest in armor, i.e. FAASV and the over-the horizon Crusader. In the runup to war, Rummy rightly nixed the Crusader and other pet projects that would have been useless in the urban asymetric war. And concurrently, he spun up production of armored HMMWVs and tactical trucks, but given the procurement procedures in place at the time, it is what it is. That’s what Rummy meant by going to war with the army you have. Rather than whine about it, he did what he could to cut red tape and cajole Congress into approving changes to the procurement process.

2 Strategy) If every General was sprouting the same philosophies, I’d be nervous and start looking for a counter-point. Give Rummy credit for doing that. The Powell doctrine crowd wanted scorch their way thru a la Desert Storm, but this time all the way to Baghdad. Others, cognizant of the nation building articulated by Bush believed a lighter footprint was needed. We’ll never know if Rummy and the Generals he chose to advise him were right since Turkey spoiled the grand design. Ultimately, given their foot-dragging, it was Bush that gave the order to fight and Rummy executed as best as he could. That’s the thing about war. While there are many ideas on fighting, it is the one that worked that gets the praise. I salute Petraeus for his accomplishments, but give Rummy his due for getting the war to the point where the surge would work.

3 ROE) what more can one say, other than it is totally driven by civilian politicians (and a State Dept run by a former General). Again, a soldier can only salute and go execute. I’m sure Allen West and a few other commanders have a few choice words on the ROEs whether written or ‘unwritten’. Nonetheless, the ever changing ROE would do much to handicap our soldiers.

4 Nation Building) I blame Bremer and the State Dept that put him there. ‘Nuff said when in drafting the iraqi constitution, sharia was given full faith and credit.

I rarely read memoirs, not even Dubya’s, but I will read Rummy’s take on being a true patriot and warrior.

AH_C on February 3, 2011 at 11:36 PM

PS. While the Bush Admin was ‘civilly’ passive as the MSM slammed them over and over, Rummy gave back as well as he took. If it wasn’t for him detonating libtard heads on a regular basis, the admin would have been totally mute against the constant lies and distortions. Without a robust defense, no wonder people got the impression that Bush really might be a chimp.

AH_C on February 3, 2011 at 11:42 PM