Shucks: GOP repeal vote on ObamaCare fails in Senate, 47/51

posted at 6:57 pm on February 2, 2011 by Allahpundit

All Republicans voted yes and every last Democrat voted no (Lieberman and Mark Warner missed the roll), which is a credit either to Reid and Durbin in keeping the caucus together or to the nutroots in intimidating vulnerable Dems with the prospect of primary challenges in 2012. For cripes sake, even Ben Nelson voted against it. Nebraskans couldn’t so much as eat in his presence last year, such was their disgust at his legislative bribe-taking to support O-Care.

As Chris Matthews might say, you know who else exercises that sort of populist ideological discipline over its leaders? The Muslim Brotherhood.

In classic Senate fashion, the vote on the repeal measure was anything but straightforward. The repeal measure was actually in the form of an amendment to the Federal Aviation Administration reauthorization bill, and the vote was actually on a “budget point of order” and needed 60 votes for passage.

“Voters in Missouri and nationwide sent a clear message last fall that they wanted their leaders in Washington to repeal and replace this law,” Sen. Roy Blunt said in a statement following the vote. “I’m deeply disappointed that my colleagues across the aisle refused to listen to that clear message, and instead voted to defend this bill, which two federal courts have already deemed unconstitutional.”

Another amendment to the health care repeal law did see passage, however – an amendment to repeal a provision that requires businesses to file a 1099 form with the IRS for every vendor with which they’ve done $600 worth of business or more. Both parties were sympathetic to complaints from the business community that the provision would create onerous paperwork requirements, and the amendment passed easily and with bipartisan support, 81-17.

Here’s the roll on the vote to repeal the 1099 provision. Among the liberals who joined the GOP on that one: Boxer, Coons, Feinstein, and even John Kerry. Hey — they said they’d be willing to “tweak” the law, didn’t they?

I’m glad they pushed for a vote, as this’ll be a useful bludgeon in the general two years from now against red-state Dems like Tester, and having this issue off the table for awhile is probably to the GOP’s advantage insofar as it limits public perceptions that they’re not focusing on the economy. But even so: Not a single Democratic yes vote after November’s wipeout? Really?


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Party ahead of constituents–that’s the Dem credo. Who gives a damn that they have specifically said to get rid of it. You stupid voters, what do you know. These may think two years a long time, but they are, as usual, forgetting that we and many others will dutifully remind their voters of their pols arrogance.

jeanie on February 2, 2011 at 8:17 PM

McConnell deserves credit on this one. Brought it to a vote after Reid said it would never happen. Tester and Nelson must not like being Senators.

angryed on February 2, 2011 at 8:21 PM

Polishing the old fool up for another run 2012?

dhunter on February 2, 2011 at 8:14 PM

John likes to demonstrate his foreign policy expertise just like Biden.:)

a capella on February 2, 2011 at 8:21 PM

Cool! Did u do the Rally at Onawa fairgrounds last summer?

dhunter on February 2, 2011 at 8:08 PM

Nope. I had hoped to, but partied in Decatur instead.

It’s good we can be civil before Nebraska becomes part of the Big 10…er…12…er…”Legends” and “Leaders” Conference

(excuse me while I hurl)

I hope you guys can hold on to King in the re-districting process. The liberalism seems to be spreading like a virus from Chicago/Madison through the Quad Cities and across Iowa.

Since I work in Iowa, but live in Nebraska, I still send him letters of support. He may put his foot in his mouth occasionally, but at least he is out there fighting.

.

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cntrlfrk on February 2, 2011 at 8:25 PM

Party ahead of constituents–that’s the Dem credo. Who gives a damn that they have specifically said to get rid of it. You stupid voters, what do you know. These may think two years a long time, but they are, as usual, forgetting that we and many others will dutifully remind their voters of their pols arrogance.

jeanie on February 2, 2011 at 8:17 PM

+1 Well said.

P. Monk on February 2, 2011 at 8:27 PM

Well, For the first time in a long time I’m pleased with the GOP Senators. Even the Maine Bobbsey twins, McCain and the ^(*)^& from Alaska didn’t defect. Good for them…. Although I fear that the Bobbsey twins first made sure that Harry had enough votes to insure failure without their defection.

Been a few months since I could say “Way to go, Mitch!”

LegendHasIt on February 2, 2011 at 8:27 PM

I think Nebraskans have a long memory–seems like anyway. Maybe Nelson will be replaced by some other Dem. But, from what I’m beginning to understand about Nebraska, they’ll probably see through this too.

jeanie on February 2, 2011 at 8:30 PM

cntrlfrk on February 2, 2011 at 8:25 PM
You live in NE? Where do u cross the river? SC? My kid lived 2 miles west of port Neal till his divorce now on the west side of Homer!

You need a boat to get to work or a helicopter!

dhunter on February 2, 2011 at 8:36 PM

jeanie on February 2, 2011 at 8:30 PM

No Dem will replace Traitor Ben!

dhunter on February 2, 2011 at 8:38 PM

My kid lived 2 miles west of port Neal till his divorce now on the west side of Homer!

You need a boat to get to work or a helicopter!

dhunter on February 2, 2011 at 8:36 PM

Yep. I’ve considered it, especially when gas was $4 + per gallon.

I live in Homer.

Small world

cntrlfrk on February 2, 2011 at 8:48 PM

Note to myself: make sure we continue tirelessly to undercut all those RINOs and get them out of office, so that we can have a 80 Dem seated Senate and pass all the legislation we love, cloture and veto proof.

bayview on February 2, 2011 at 8:55 PM

But even so: Not a single Democratic yes vote after November’s wipeout? Really?

Yeah, that does seem hard to believe. I’d be very interested to see how the count might change if this vote was held in another year.

tom on February 2, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Note to myself: make sure we continue tirelessly to undercut all those RINOs and get them out of office, so that we can have a 80 Dem seated Senate and pass all the legislation we love, cloture and veto proof.

bayview on February 2, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Somewhere Steven Tyler is singing “Dream on, dream on…”

churchill995 on February 2, 2011 at 9:01 PM

There might, might, be a third option. Given the 26 states that are suing the Fed. Government, and given the Florida judge’s ruling, it’s possible that many Senate democrats are calculating that Obamacare will be before the SCOTUS before 2012 and that they will strike the mandate down as unconstitutional, which would kill the whole bill. If that were to happen, the Dems. could please their base by passing it and voting not to repeal it, while also limiting electoral damage by not having to defend something a majority of Americans hate. It’s a long shot, but it might be part of the calculus.

Weight of Glory on February 2, 2011 at 7:11 PM

Astute observation. We know politicians are fond of using little tricks like this to try to keep both sides happy and avoid blame.

tom on February 2, 2011 at 9:01 PM

cmsinaz on February 2, 2011 at 8:07 PM

..:)

Dire Straits on February 2, 2011 at 9:32 PM

hmm Obamacare is null and void. why even bother voting on it now?

so 51 senators voted to disregard a federal court ruling? Is this now a consitutional crisis?

unseen on February 2, 2011 at 9:34 PM

while also limiting electoral damage by not having to defend something a majority of Americans hate. It’s a long shot, but it might be part of the calculus.

Weight of Glory on February 2, 2011 at 7:11 PM
Astute observation. We know politicians are fond of using little tricks like this to try to keep both sides happy and avoid blame.

tom on February 2, 2011 at 9:01 PM

only problem with that is we now have 51 senators on record of disregarding a federal court ruling. disregarding the rule of law.

they are setting up a consitutional crisis the likes of which we have not seen in generations.

unseen on February 2, 2011 at 9:36 PM

cntrlfrk on February 2, 2011 at 8:48 PM

Good to see a neighbor here lots of IA and NE posters here are you new?

dhunter on February 2, 2011 at 9:50 PM

hmm Obamacare is null and void. why even bother voting on it now?

so 51 senators voted to disregard a federal court ruling? Is this now a consitutional crisis?

unseen on February 2, 2011 at 9:34 PM

It begins with the new governor from Florida, Rick Scott. He doesn’t want to spend money to implement a void law.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-01/governor-putting-brakes-on-health-overhaul-in-fla-.html

txmomof6 on February 2, 2011 at 9:58 PM

So, even the RINOs voted for repeal, eh? Wonder how Mike Castle would have voted? Or Sue Lowden? Or Jane Norton?

rockmom on February 2, 2011 at 10:05 PM

It’s a good start. We’ll bring it up again in a couple of months and see it does then.

petefrt on February 2, 2011 at 10:10 PM

So, even the RINOs voted for repeal, eh? Wonder how Mike Castle would have voted?
rockmom on February 2, 2011 at 10:05 PM

Interesting question. Guess we’ll never know.

Of course, what we DO know is that Coons voted AGAINST repeal. Thanks again, O’Donnell supporters.

Vyce on February 2, 2011 at 10:11 PM

How many times do we have to learn? (a bird only flies into a mirror once) that:

1 There are NO moderate Democrats.
2 There are NO moderate Muslims.

As long as we kept forgetting this, we’re in a world of hurt.

MaiDee on February 2, 2011 at 10:22 PM

Great.

Now, do it again. Hold up everything and force as many votes on Obamacare as time will allow.

applebutter on February 2, 2011 at 10:29 PM

For cripes sake

Who would that be…Jesus Cripes?

fossten on February 2, 2011 at 10:41 PM

Interesting question. Guess we’ll never know.

Of course, what we DO know is that Coons voted AGAINST repeal. Thanks again, O’Donnell supporters.

Vyce on February 2, 2011 at 10:11 PM

Yep, because his vote would have mattered…oh wait…

fossten on February 2, 2011 at 10:42 PM

Democrats will regret their stubbornness come 2012. The smart thing to do would’ve been to back-peddle while there was still time to work out a replacement.

Murf76 on February 2, 2011 at 10:42 PM

The ‘rats are counting on public burnout.

Bishop on February 2, 2011 at 6:59 PM

Yes they are.
The public is fickle.
IT’s those wise ‘Independents’ people are always courting.
They are the fickle ba$tard$s that have given us a lot of this crap.

Badger40 on February 2, 2011 at 10:57 PM

hmm Obamacare is null and void. why even bother voting on it now?

so 51 senators voted to disregard a federal court ruling? Is this now a consitutional crisis?

unseen

no.

and it won’t be repealed by vote.

it’ll go to SCOTUS.

then we’ll see what’s what.

audiculous on February 2, 2011 at 11:03 PM

Claire McCaskill you are gone in ’12. There are not enough “revisions” that you can make to this turd that would make you viable in ’12. You voted for this POS twice. Own it.

JAM on February 2, 2011 at 11:04 PM

1 There are NO moderate Democrats.
2 There are NO moderate Muslims.

As long as we kept forgetting this, we’re in a world of hurt.

MaiDee

you’re in your own world. and it’s a silly and bigoted one.

audiculous on February 2, 2011 at 11:05 PM

it’ll go to SCOTUS.

then we’ll see what’s what.

audiculous on February 2, 2011 at 11:03 PM

Then it will be declared unconstitutional, employers will heave a sigh of relief, start hiring, and Scooter will claim credit for reducing unemployment.

a capella on February 2, 2011 at 11:23 PM

They need to send new versions of this through every week. Make the Democrats own it.

jbohanon on February 2, 2011 at 11:27 PM

a capella,

it may indeed be found to be flawed. that would make for some interesting times when it has to be fixed.

audiculous on February 2, 2011 at 11:29 PM

Of course, what we DO know is that Coons voted AGAINST repeal. Thanks again, O’Donnell supporters.

Vyce on February 2, 2011 at 10:11 PM

Yes, so thankful she retired Castle to the home for incurable RINOs. And we’ll retire a bunch more come 2012.

AH_C on February 2, 2011 at 11:56 PM

Vyce: You are not thinking clearly. A Castle vote for repeal wouldn’t have changed the outcome at all.

A Castle vote against repeal wouldn’t have changed the outcome… but it would have given the Democrats ‘bipartisan support’ against repeal.

IOW, Castle’s no vote would have been far worse than Coons’s no vote. If you use the risk analysis idea that a risk profile is the product of likelihood and severity (and controls), the issue of Castle and OD can be reduced to…

Do you think likelihoodCastle*severityCastle > likelihoodCoons*severityCoons?

How you answer that question is probably a good indication of where you sat on that particular issue.

Scott H on February 3, 2011 at 12:02 AM

it may is indeed be found to be flawed. that would make for some interesting times when it has to be fixed.

audiculous on February 2, 2011 at 11:29 PM

FIFY. As for fixing it, they can start with tort reform and give considered debate towards setting up a medical court system where doctors can be tried by a jury of peers instead of a bunch of know-nothings off the street — that right there will make the trial lawyer heads explode.

Whle they’re at it, look at tax reform to put the complete burden of health insurance back on the people by getting rid of incentives for employers offering it as a fringe, upside being that it’s portable. Another thing would be to open up the States to cross-border markets.

That’s what they should have focused on instead of some pie in the sky idea of bending the cost curve. Only a free market can do that. Govts are only good at growing and bending costs upwards. PERIOD.

AH_C on February 3, 2011 at 12:06 AM

FIFY. As for fixing it, they can start with tort reform and give considered debate towards setting up a medical court system where doctors can be tried by a jury of peers instead of a bunch of know-nothings off the street — that right there will make the trial lawyer heads explode.

AH_C on February 3, 2011 at 12:06 AM

That could even be a good start toward reforming the REST of our trial system. The current method of jury selection makes a mockery of justice – what it usually ends up with is a mishmash of losers and/or unlucky sods who weren’t able to weasel out of their summons. And that’s before the lawyers get to nitpick over the lot!

I’ve seen enough of the workings of the legal system that frankly, the thought of ‘trial by twelve’ terrifies me. You could honestly get better quality if you could pick a dozen names from the phonebook at random.

Dark-Star on February 3, 2011 at 12:22 AM

Vyce on February 2, 2011 at 10:11 PM

What was the percentage of Rino’s that voted for Coons and Reed. That’s right around 15%. More than the winning margins for each of the above. I seem to remember the same thing playing out in a presidential election that led to the Great Society and Medicare. Thanks Rino’s for caring.

You see two can play at that game. If the Rino’s had voted for the party candidate like they demand conservatives to do then none of the above would have happened. So don’t blame the conservatives for this mess it was Rino’s who voted for the progressives that gave it to us.

chemman on February 3, 2011 at 12:41 AM

How many times do we have to learn? (a bird only flies into a mirror once) that

1 There are NO moderate Democrats.
2 There are NO moderate Muslims

As long as we kept forgetting this, we’re in a world of hurt.

MaiDee on February 2, 2011 at 10:22 PM

FWIW, my next door neighbors are a Muslim family. Nice folks.

spinach.chin on February 3, 2011 at 12:53 AM

you’re in your own world. and it’s a silly and bigoted one.

audiculous on February 2, 2011 at 11:05 PM

Hey, didn’t i see you you in Jersey City cheering with the “moderate” Muslims as the World Trade Center came tumbling down? You live in your own world and it’s crepuscular and filled with excrement,

MaiDee on February 3, 2011 at 1:11 AM

Allah –

Our course they’re not worried about 2012.

Do you think Rahm is worried about winning as mayor of Chicago?

The D’s just got through stealing hundreds of billions of dollars from the treasury and redistributing it to hundreds of thousands of people who will give part of it back to them for the election.

It’s The Chicago Way. Coming next election to a country near you.

wordwarp on February 3, 2011 at 1:21 AM

Vyce: You are not thinking clearly. A Castle vote for repeal wouldn’t have changed the outcome at all.

A Castle vote against repeal wouldn’t have changed the outcome… but it would have given the Democrats ‘bipartisan support’ against repeal.

IOW, Castle’s no vote would have been far worse than Coons’s no vote. If you use the risk analysis idea that a risk profile is the product of likelihood and severity (and controls), the issue of Castle and OD can be reduced to…

Do you think likelihoodCastle*severityCastle > likelihoodCoons*severityCoons?

How you answer that question is probably a good indication of where you sat on that particular issue.

Scott H on February 3, 2011 at 12:02 AM

This makes no sense. Castle voted against ObamaCare in the House. The same people who said he would have folded in the Senate are the same ones that said Brown, Snowe, Collin et. all would fold.

And his vote could change things. In fact, if we had Norton, Lowden and Castle, we would have had 50. That would have made every Dem that voted for it the decisive vote.

Plus, we would only be 10 votes way from a non-filibuster in 2012. We need numbers. We cant do jacksh*t with 47, and only so much without a small majority.

swamp_yankee on February 3, 2011 at 1:38 AM

That’s okay.
Now we have all the slimes on record.
America: gear up for the Town Halls preceding the 2012 elections.
The Dems up for re-election are going to get an ear-full!!

Mark7788 on February 3, 2011 at 2:26 AM

But even so: Not a single Democratic yes vote after November’s wipeout? Really?

Why would there be? It’s not like they didn’t know the score in November. They knew there was going to be a wipeout if they voted for it then. If anything it’s less riskier now than it was then.

I’m glad they had the vote, but anyone who thought it had a chance in hell weren’t paying attention….much like those who believe Palin will beat Obama.

xblade on February 3, 2011 at 4:35 AM

The only way that Obama could even dream about winning Nebraska in 2012 is if the GOP put Dan Beebe on the ticket.

Our focus will be on removing Nelson first and foremost!

68102

JetBlast on February 3, 2011 at 5:18 AM

Judas Nelson (D) NE is toast.

OmahaConservative on February 3, 2011 at 5:19 AM

Don’t “get it off of the table” cut the damned table in half so it falls into someone’s lap. Let this go to sleep and its a shoo-in for the messiah. Get a lineup of people 24/7 to show that jobs are being held up by this monster called Obamacare.

The message: It’s socialism for the “soak the rich for me” crowd, but poverty for the middle class. 24/7

Don L on February 3, 2011 at 5:45 AM

21 Dem Senators up for re-election in 2012.

Mission accomplished.

percysunshine on February 3, 2011 at 6:11 AM

Exactly on party lines? Why, good people, nothing to see here. No backroom, cigar smoke deal to play this out and let it all quietly slip away.

Thank goodness it isn’t politics as usual, huh? We can be mighty proud of these hard working folks that represent us.

Limerick on February 3, 2011 at 6:12 AM

JetBlast on February 3, 2011 at 5:18 AM

Lolz.
68113

OmahaConservative on February 3, 2011 at 7:01 AM

This was a necessary step in the battle against this socialist healthcare aberration . . . nobody expected it to pass in the senate. The fight goes on until Obamacare has found a permanent place in the garbage can.

rplat on February 3, 2011 at 7:41 AM

JetBlast

OmahaConservative

thank GAWD you didn’t say 90210 or I’d have to hire an exorcist.

Limerick on February 3, 2011 at 7:41 AM

Limerick on February 3, 2011 at 7:41 AM

I was 92116 for 25 years.

OmahaConservative on February 3, 2011 at 7:46 AM

Wasn’t the 1099 provision intended to raise $$$ to offset costs?

If that cash is now gone … doesn’t that change (once again!) all the claims of how this monstrosity will reduce the deficit?

lizzieillinois on February 3, 2011 at 7:57 AM

lizzieillinois on February 3, 2011 at 7:57 AM

good point!

cmsinaz on February 3, 2011 at 8:01 AM

Liberals have their heads stuck in the sand; last November is something they have chosen to ignore and or make believe won’t happen again…

This is their nature… Not a well grounded group of people. I was on a blog last night and a woman stated that her son has a serious medical problem, that the only reason she had insurance was because of Obamacare. Nobody challenged her on this, so I finally asked her if she realized Obamacare wouldn’t have kicked in for a few years, but now that it has been ruled to be unconstitutional, it is currently in a holding pattern. She called me a right wing nut case that didn’t have a clue… What do you do with people like that; sometimes you just can’t fix stupid.

Keemo on February 3, 2011 at 8:03 AM

Wasn’t the 1099 provision intended to raise $$$ to offset costs?

If that cash is now gone … doesn’t that change (once again!) all the claims of how this monstrosity will reduce the deficit?

lizzieillinois on February 3, 2011 at 7:57 AM

Honestly, now that smart people are breaking down this bill and connecting the dots, everything Obama and his minions said about this bill is turning out to be lies. They have no chance of having this bill become law long term. America is full of smart people who are plenty capable of connecting the dots and spreading the word. Nobody likes being lied to; in the end this will be how history writes about the era of Obama, Pelosi, and Reid.. Dishonest gangsters disguised as politicians.

Keemo on February 3, 2011 at 8:09 AM

I guess the democrats missed the decision of the federal judge who deemed the whole law unconstitutional….They are going about business just like nothing ever happened! We might as well get rid of the judicial branch since even Chuck U. Schumer doesn’t know it is one of the three branches of government that is just as powerful as the other two….And, of course, the press, is culpable in this treasonous activity by going along with Obama and co. as if what they are doing is normal….

theaddora on February 3, 2011 at 8:16 AM

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703960804576120103417920260.html

excerpt: Obama ran for office on opposition to the individual mandate, then made it the centerpiece of his signature legislative initiative. Perhaps this should have been “lie of the year.”

Keemo on February 3, 2011 at 8:22 AM

This makes no sense. Castle voted against ObamaCare in the House. The same people who said he would have folded in the Senate are the same ones that said Brown, Snowe, Collin et. all would fold.

And his vote could change things. In fact, if we had Norton, Lowden and Castle, we would have had 50. That would have made every Dem that voted for it the decisive vote.

Plus, we would only be 10 votes way from a non-filibuster in 2012. We need numbers. We cant do jacksh*t with 47, and only so much without a small majority.

swamp_yankee on February 3, 2011 at 1:38 AM

This is an incredibly dishonest post. “His vote could change things” ONLY if we would have had THREE OTHER SEATS flip to R. You are trying to distort the reality of the situation.

fossten on February 3, 2011 at 8:55 AM

From the vote on the 1099 tax forms

NAYs —17
Akaka (D-HI)
Carper (D-DE)
Durbin (D-IL)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Whitehouse (D-RI)

Ah…”good” to see the old feminist/anti-male Barbara “Babs” Milkulski from my home state is still crusading against anyone with a Y-Chromosome in any way possible.

The rest of the list is your standard Liberal party standard bearers, including the Communist/Socialist Parties useful idiot for a mouth, Sanders.

Razgriez on February 3, 2011 at 9:45 AM

So the GOP gave the dems cover by voting to “fix” Obamacare. Nice. Now it won’t be repealed but “fixed” and the courts will say, oh lookie here, it’s already being fixed, we’ll stay out of this one and let the law stand.

How cool the GOP is.

The GOP will betray you.

True_King on February 3, 2011 at 10:24 AM

These guys (and gals) are an opprobrium to this nation. Even after the law has been voided in court, they still won’t get rid of it. Who in the US are they representing? It’s certainly not their constituents.

sadatoni on February 3, 2011 at 10:50 AM

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