Video: Gibbs tries hard to say nothing meaningful whatsoever about Egypt; Update: U.S. secretly backed opposition; Update: Mubarak addresses nation, announces formation of new government; Update: Mubarak video added

posted at 4:45 pm on January 28, 2011 by Allahpundit

He did a darned good job of it too. He spoke for upwards of an hour, and the only useful piece of information to come out of the presser was that he wasn’t sure if The One has personally spoken to any world leaders about Egypt — including Mubarak, the strongest sign yet that the regime’s in very, very deep trouble. Before you go beating up on Gibbsy, though, let me call to the stand a witness for the defense. Over to you, John Bolton:

“In terms of how the administration has handled it, I think the reaction has been confused,” Bolton said. “Although in fairness, I will say nobody saw this coming. So I think that it may not be entirely justifiable, but it’s understandable that the initial reaction would be confused.”

Responding to a question after a speech at the 2011 Congressional Defense & Foreign Policy Forum on Friday, Bolton said a more active response from the administration on Egypt might have done more harm than good.

“I think there’s too much risk of mushy statements that just make things worse,” Bolton said.

So confounded is the administration by all this that you’ve got some Democratic foreign policy specialists saying Mubarak shouldn’t go while other Democratic foreign policy experts are calling for democratic presidential elections. Look at it from Obama’s perspective: If he sides with Mubarak and the regime falls, the anti-American backlash will be vicious. If he sides with the protesters and the regime falls, he’ll be blamed for having helped bring the Muslim Brotherhood to power. Better to stick to neutral, well-meaning pap about “restraint” and hope for the best, no? Which of course also explains why U.S. foreign policy towards Egypt has remained basically constant for 30 years through administrations as different as Reagan, Clinton, Bush, and Obama. Given the country’s Islamist grassroots, what was the alternative? Any president who came out whole-hog for democracy would have risked destabilizing the regime and empowering fundamentalists, which would in turn have encouraged fanatics across the region and potentially reoriented Sunni governments away from the Iranian threat and back towards Israel. As I recall, that was a chief “realist” criticism of Bush’s vision for the Middle East, later illustrated by Hamas’s victory in Gaza — that a democratic process doesn’t necessarily lead to a more liberal outcome. After 9/11 and the Iranian revolution in ’79, how could any American president gamble on backing reforms that might produce a net outcome that’s more Islamist? It’s political suicide.

Supporting Iran’s uprising two years ago was a missed opportunity for Obama because that net outcome realistically could have gone only one way. Iran has already been through the two standard models of Middle Eastern governance — pro-western secular fascism under the Shah and anti-western Islamic fundamentalism under the mullahs — so the likely outcome when the current regime falls is something new and democratic along the lines of what Iraq’s struggling to maintain. Egypt’s been stuck on the first model for ages, though. Any wonder that we’re worried about them moving straight to the second? Click the image to watch.

Update: Just as I hit publish, big news is breaking. Oh boy.

3 private jets leave Cairo airport under heavy security; #Egypt parliament speaker to make major announcement – NBC

Update: A conveniently timed Wikileaks release. So conveniently timed, in fact, that I wonder how the feds helped push this out as a way of doing a little belated P.R. among Egyptians.

In a secret diplomatic dispatch, sent on December 30 2008, Margaret Scobey, the US Ambassador to Cairo, recorded that opposition groups had allegedly drawn up secret plans for “regime change” to take place before elections, scheduled for September this year…

It said the activist claimed “several opposition forces” had “agreed to support an unwritten plan for a transition to a parliamentary democracy, involving a weakened presidency and an empowered prime minister and parliament, before the scheduled 2011 presidential elections”. The embassy’s source said the plan was “so sensitive it cannot be written down”.

Ambassador Scobey questioned whether such an “unrealistic” plot could work, or ever even existed. However, the documents showed that the activist had been approached by US diplomats and received extensive support for his pro-democracy campaign from officials in Washington.

Update: Mubarak’s speaking on Egyptian television now. Location and whether it’s live or recorded is anyone’s guess. Here’s a screencap. Stand by for vid later.

Update: So that explains the report of a “transitional government” earlier: Mubarak ended his speech by saying that he’s asked the government to resign and that a new one will be formed tomorrow — with him in charge, natch. I’m not sure what a cosmetic concession like that is supposed to achieve. Presumably he’ll ask Egyptian liberals and Islamists to join it to appease the protesters, but why would they accept and give him political cover? Better to keep up the heat and push him out.

Actually, maybe liberals will consider this an opportunity. If, as many assume, they’re weak vis-a-vis the Muslim Brotherhood, then pushing Mubarak out will only seal their own fate when the MB takes over. Maybe they’ll decide that joining the government and pushing liberal reforms from within is their best way to build a broad popular constituency.

Update: Tom Joscelyn has an essential piece on the Muslim Brotherhood in response to the whitewash from Bruce Riedel that I linked in the other thread. If the MB takes power and we’re forced to deal with them, you’ll hear loads of spin of the Riedel variety about how they’re really not all that bad when compared to, say, Al Qaeda. That’s true only insofar as the MB is a bit more bottom-line about its goals than AQ is. If pretending to be “pro-democracy” helps advance their agenda more than blowing up buildings does, then pro-democracy it is:

First, we must understand that the Brotherhood is not confined to Egypt, but actually operates around the globe, with full-fledged branches throughout the Middle East and influence organizations in the West. Everywhere the Brotherhood has implanted its radical Islamist seed the organization has adapted to its environment. So, for example, in Egypt, where the Brotherhood was ruthlessly oppressed by Mubarak’s regime, it began to advocate open participation in Egypt’s elections. This was a necessity, as violent attempts to overthrow Mubarak were systematically crushed. Even so, we cannot pretend, as Riedel does, that the Brotherhood has completely eschewed violence…

The Muslim Brotherhood’s most influential theologian, Sheikh Yousef al Qaradawi, has repeatedly justified suicide bombings, called on Muslims to support the insurgency against American forces in Iraq, and justified the killing of civilians. “The martyrdom operations carried out by the Palestinian factions to resist the Zionist occupation are not in any way included in the framework of prohibited terrorism, even if the victims include some civilians,” Qaradawi said in 2003, according to MEMRI. “Those who oppose martyrdom operations and claim that they are suicide are making a great mistake,” Qaradawi added…

Riedel is correct in saying that the Muslim Brotherhood has drawn the ire of al Qaeda’s leaders for being “too soft.” But this glosses over the many ideological similarities between the two organizations. They both want to conquer lands in the name of Islam and establish Sharia law everywhere they can. They simply disagree about how to best accomplish that goal. Osama bin Laden and Ayman al Zawahiri, who were recruited by the Brotherhood as young men, did not leave the organization because they disagreed with its long-term goals. They were simply unwilling to compromise at a tactical level.

Much more at the link above.

Update: A vivid reminder from ABC about why it’s futile for the White House to try to line up on the protesters’ side now: The tear gas cans being used by Egyptian police are actually stamped … “Made in U.S.A.”

Update: An expert from the Washington Institute for Near East Policy tells the Daily Caller that the Egyptian military won’t let the Muslim Brotherhood come to power. I hope that’s true; if it is, then Egypt might operate the way Turkey used to, with a secular military providing a tacit check on Islamist political influence. (Not so true anymore under Erdogan, is it?) Everything depends on how Islamist the Egyptian military itself is. How lucky do you feel?

Update: Here’s the clip of Mubarak giving viewers the full Orwell, pronouncing himself a lover of democracy, etc.

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Oh. wow. It’s a Winning The Future speech.

TN Mom on January 28, 2011 at 5:28 PM

Did he just ask the government to resign!?!?! With him in charge.

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 5:28 PM

No. Just a new cover picture with Murbarak standing next to his buddy Reagan.

Electrongod on January 28, 2011 at 5:26 PM

Are you sure that’s not Obama?

Fallon on January 28, 2011 at 5:28 PM

Same government under a different name.

Cr4sh Dummy on January 28, 2011 at 5:28 PM

NEW GOVERNMENT WITH MUBARAK IN CHARGE!

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 5:28 PM

MUBARAK WON’T RESIGN. WILL RESTORE LAW AND ORDER. SAYS HE TOOK AN OATH.

amerpundit on January 28, 2011 at 5:29 PM

aaaaaaaaaaand there he goes.
Good luck with that one folks.

abobo on January 28, 2011 at 5:29 PM

Thank you Jimmah Tartar.

Limerick on January 28, 2011 at 5:29 PM

The chairs and bottles stopped raining down from apartment building balconies.

That’s why we cannot let them take our guns or we will only have bottles and chairs as weapons. And I’m not tossin’ my recliner.

davidk on January 28, 2011 at 5:27 PM

I can throw a pretty mean chair…

TN Mom on January 28, 2011 at 5:29 PM

sicoit: Israel will NEVER be “toast”. God is on their side.

Republican on January 28, 2011 at 5:19 PM

And whose side was he on in the 1940s?

clnurnberg on January 28, 2011 at 5:30 PM

That’s why we cannot let them take our guns or we will only have bottles and chairs as weapons. And I’m not tossin’ my recliner.

davidk on January 28, 2011 at 5:27 PM

Recliners don’t kill people, people kill people.

petunia on January 28, 2011 at 5:30 PM

If you believe the Wikileaks-related update, it’s all President George W. Bush’s fault!

slickwillie2001 on January 28, 2011 at 5:30 PM

Smart move actually. This is probably the only chance he has to hang on without major bloodshed. He’s trying to co-opt the whole movement and blame it on the lousy (underlings) in his government. I expect “rooting out corruption” will be mentioned.

WitchDoctor on January 28, 2011 at 5:30 PM

Will the newly “resigned” government members begin to broker deals with external/internal agents, now that they’ve been thrown under the chariot?

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 5:31 PM

It’s after midnight in Egypt. Why have a televised message at that time?

Odd.

SlaveDog on January 28, 2011 at 5:31 PM

Calm down everyone. The UN will step in and sort this whole mess out!

/s

TN Mom on January 28, 2011 at 5:31 PM

ISRAELI TELEVISION: MUBARAK HAS LEFT EGYPT FOR SWITZERLAND.
@ProducerMatthew

amerpundit on January 28, 2011 at 4:53 PM

Great job, Internet!

YYZ on January 28, 2011 at 5:31 PM

Mubarak stands in the pocket with a stump speech? This will get ugly for him…

Ozprey on January 28, 2011 at 5:31 PM

Did he just ask the government to resign!?!?! With him in charge.

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 5:28 PM

Brilliant spin, real chutzpah. Can he get away with it?

slickwillie2001 on January 28, 2011 at 5:31 PM

Bad move, I’m thinkin’. After 30 years of him, his fans will burn his game jersey in the stadium parking lot. Flames are readily available.

a capella on January 28, 2011 at 5:32 PM

Great job, Internet!

YYZ on January 28, 2011 at 5:31 PM

I was quoting a normally-reliable Twitter guy who was quoting Israeli television. Perhaps I should have said “grain of salt” but I thought it was implied by the “he said that someone else said” nature.

amerpundit on January 28, 2011 at 5:32 PM

He wants the govt to step down, and he will appoint a new govt! lol

Ozprey on January 28, 2011 at 5:32 PM

Tunisia’s president-for-life promised and delivered higher education for Tunisians, and made it illegal for women in public to wear the jihab. (Higher education means higher expectations in life, which is why American socialists have dumbed down that original utopian propagandizing tool.) Meanwhile, the ruling elites’ fraud and graft thieving the national treasury with self indulgence ruined Tunisia’s economy, left industry non-existent and static without public works for the 40 years of that particular “friendly to the West” president-for-life in Tunisia. And the authoritarians determined that it is illegal for a starving PhD to himself fish by hand and sell at market in order to sustain his family.

maverick muse on January 28, 2011 at 5:32 PM

Is Mubarak Obama calling for solar shingles? Coz that’s the future and you gotta win it.

pedestrian on January 28, 2011 at 5:33 PM

And incidentally, NBC News was reporting as if Mubarak was leaving.

amerpundit on January 28, 2011 at 5:33 PM

Oh boy, Murbarak stays, and Obama won’t take a position either way.

Skandia Recluse on January 28, 2011 at 5:33 PM

Must be a crapload of sweaty tourists in the airport.

Limerick on January 28, 2011 at 5:33 PM

Hmmm…
Carter visits moderate Iran, & a year later Islamofascists turned it into an Israel-hating mullocracy.
Obama visits moderate Egypt, & a year later Islamofascists are trying to turn it into an Israel-hating mullocracy.

itsnotaboutme on January 28, 2011 at 5:34 PM

It’s after midnight in Egypt. Why have a televised message at that time?

Odd.

SlaveDog on January 28, 2011 at 5:31 PM

Especially at his age. There were no specifics in his speech. That makes me inclined to think that was a pre-recorded speech.

Also, this only stirred the hornets nest. The protests were starting to subside. With his speech, he revived it. There are now people chanting “Down with Mubarak” in the street. I don’t think the protesters to acquiesce.

Cr4sh Dummy on January 28, 2011 at 5:34 PM

Brilliant spin, real chutzpah. Can he get away with it?

slickwillie2001 on January 28, 2011 at 5:31 PM

Heh. Wait till he runs a focus group. Is Lunz available?

a capella on January 28, 2011 at 5:34 PM

Looks like they weren’t listening enough. Obama needs to give another Cairo speech.

John the Libertarian on January 28, 2011 at 5:35 PM

Daily Telegraph reporting USA behind “regime change”.

Hello Christian killing Islamic Republic of Egypt.

Thank you Administration.

PappyD61 on January 28, 2011 at 5:36 PM

It’s after midnight in Egypt. Why have a televised message at that time?

Odd.

SlaveDog on January 28, 2011 at 5:31 PM

Hmmmm good question. Is the audience us?

And most of the people who are effected seem to be away from their sets just now.

petunia on January 28, 2011 at 5:36 PM

It’s after midnight in Egypt. Why have a televised message at that time?

Odd.

SlaveDog on January 28, 2011 at 5:31 PM

The West is Mubarak’s target audience.

And technical difficulties may be present given that networks are all off by order. Even if simple to turn back on (I wouldn’t know), Mubarak wouldn’t want the satellite connections back on while everyone in Egypt is normally awake, for them to use or interfere with while “on”.

maverick muse on January 28, 2011 at 5:36 PM

Mubarak: “This is our Sputnik moment.”

Django on January 28, 2011 at 5:37 PM

I hope Isreal is bunker busting the desert next to Gaza right now. Collapse those tunnels.

Limerick on January 28, 2011 at 5:37 PM

Hey, Blitzer actually has a good question: With whom does the army side?

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 5:37 PM

It’s after midnight in Egypt. Why have a televised message at that time?

SlaveDog on January 28, 2011 at 5:31 PM

If I was going to make a run for the airport, I’d post a recorded hour long speech too.

pedestrian on January 28, 2011 at 5:37 PM

“I have requested that the government step down today…

… and there will be a new government tomorrow, with me in charge, of course!”

Well…

… I’m glad that’s settled.

Seven Percent Solution on January 28, 2011 at 5:37 PM

My son’s childhood friend is in Alexandria, Egypt, on one of those overseas college internships . I’m not a fan of most of these collge overseas deals and today my kids understand why. I’m praying for this 20 year old young man, and the thousands of others who are in the middle of anarchy, to return home safely. This pathetic Hope-n-Changey Circus Show doesn’t give me any confidence, therefore I’ll just pray that much harder!

redwhiteblue on January 28, 2011 at 5:38 PM

From Ace:

Note: While this is running live, it might be taped. It’s still possible he’s fled the country, but if that’s the case, I don’t get the point of broadcasting this.

Neither do I.

Hey, Blitzer actually has a good question: With whom does the army side?

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 5:37 PM

If he’s still in power and thinks he can hold on, the military is on his side.

amerpundit on January 28, 2011 at 5:39 PM

What was that comment Mubarak made about salmon?

Django on January 28, 2011 at 5:39 PM

redwhiteblue on January 28, 2011 at 5:38 PM

God and the ticket agent be with him, friend.

Limerick on January 28, 2011 at 5:40 PM

You know…

… compared to Gibbs, Al Jazeera isn’t all that bad.

/

Seven Percent Solution on January 28, 2011 at 5:41 PM

I find it hard to believe Obama would be behind any “regime” change? If our Government was behind this what do we gain by a destabilized Egypt?I say if it’s true no one told Bammy.

sandee on January 28, 2011 at 5:41 PM

Here’s an interesting signal. Right now there is a curfew in Egypt; it is currently being completely ignored, and there is no visible police enforcement of the curfew. In the speech Mubarak just gave he said he would not allow lawlessness. If there is no police force enforcement of the curfew, then it would strongly signal that this was recorded earlier and that the structure of law enforcement has degraded.

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 5:41 PM

The chairs and bottles stopped raining down from apartment building balconies.

That’s why we cannot let them take our guns or we will only have bottles and chairs as weapons. And I’m not tossin’ my recliner.

davidk on January 28, 2011 at 5:27 PM

“If you like your guns, you can keep your guns…” : Captain Kick Ass. Don’t believe it.

AZCON on January 28, 2011 at 5:42 PM

The Saudi security forces must be drawing ammo.

Limerick on January 28, 2011 at 5:42 PM

sicoit: Israel will NEVER be “toast”. God is on their side.

Republican on January 28, 2011 at 5:19 PM

Yes, my point. And so it begins…..

sicoit on January 28, 2011 at 5:42 PM

If he’s still in power and thinks he can hold on, the military is on his side.

amerpundit on January 28, 2011 at 5:39 PM

Then the clash between the military and the protesters is inevitable.

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 5:43 PM

Gibbs tries hard to say nothing meaningful

This….you could have stopped right there AP…

sicoit on January 28, 2011 at 5:44 PM

Mubarak: “This is our Sputnik moment.”

Django on January 28, 2011 at 5:37 PM

LOL

Terrye on January 28, 2011 at 5:44 PM

From Ace:

Note: “While this is running live, it might be taped. It’s still possible he’s fled the country, but if that’s the case, I don’t get the point of broadcasting this.”

Neither do I.

amerpundit on January 28, 2011 at 5:39 PM

Try to diffuse the protests while not taking a bullet to the brain. No risk if it backfires.

Cr4sh Dummy on January 28, 2011 at 5:44 PM

redwhiteblue on January 28, 2011 at 5:38 PM

Prayers ascending, my friend, and may God protect all the innocents over there.

kingsjester on January 28, 2011 at 5:44 PM

Calm down everyone. The UN will step in and sort this whole mess out!

/s

TN Mom on January 28, 2011 at 5:31 PM

Geeze…hide yer daughters…..

BigWyo on January 28, 2011 at 5:44 PM

CNN showing that protests and chanting is picking back up in Alexandria:

“GET OUT GET OUT WE DONT WANT YOU!”

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 5:44 PM

And count on the Barry State Department to be standing around with their pants around their ankles.

Limerick on January 28, 2011 at 5:44 PM

redwhiteblue on January 28, 2011 at 5:38 PM

Right out of college, I had a few friends who took jobs with the gov. over in Iran and were caught up in the revolution. They couldn’t get flights out for several weeks but they were okay. The nuts would scream Yankee go home! to them and my friend would just wave and smile back and yell, I’m going, I’m going. The nuts would just laugh.

Blake on January 28, 2011 at 5:44 PM

Thank you Administration.

PappyD61 on January 28, 2011 at 5:36 PM

“My Muslim faith.”

davidk on January 28, 2011 at 5:45 PM

Try to diffuse the protests while not taking a bullet to the brain. No risk if it backfires.

Cr4sh Dummy on January 28, 2011 at 5:44 PM

Except that it’s more likely to inflame. People will get angrier if they feel like they just got kicked in the teeth again.

amerpundit on January 28, 2011 at 5:45 PM

All these protests for freedom…

… and we put the government in charge of selecting our light bulbs and deciding if it is affordable if we live or die.

Nice!

Seven Percent Solution on January 28, 2011 at 5:45 PM

Here’s an interesting signal. Right now there is a curfew in Egypt; it is currently being completely ignored, and there is no visible police enforcement of the curfew. In the speech Mubarak just gave he said he would not allow lawlessness. If there is no police force enforcement of the curfew, then it would strongly signal that this was recorded earlier and that the structure of law enforcement has degraded.

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 5:41 PM

I agree with that assessment. Also it should be noted that he retained the majority of the NDP parliament members. All they did was change their name.

Cr4sh Dummy on January 28, 2011 at 5:46 PM

This is so Palin’s fault. I’m throwing out my Newsweek.

Seth Halpern on January 28, 2011 at 5:46 PM

Reuters:

EGYPTIAN ARMY TAKES CONTROL OF CAIRO’S CENTRAL TAHRIR SQUARE, PROTESTERS FLEE INTO SIDE STREETS-WITNESSES

amerpundit on January 28, 2011 at 5:47 PM

Soooooo….is this going to turn out good or bad for us? Does anybody have an idea? :(

Emily M. on January 28, 2011 at 5:47 PM

6 states to go and Obummer will have his 57.

AZCON on January 28, 2011 at 5:48 PM

Emily M. on January 28, 2011 at 5:47 PM

Ever seen a modern mullah?

Limerick on January 28, 2011 at 5:48 PM

Except that it’s more likely to inflame. People will get angrier if they feel like they just got kicked in the teeth again.

amerpundit on January 28, 2011 at 5:45 PM

I know, but his back is up against the wall. He’ll try anything that won’t jeopardize his personal security.

Cr4sh Dummy on January 28, 2011 at 5:48 PM

Is this the Mitt Romney approach, support whomever wins in the end?

Bishop on January 28, 2011 at 5:49 PM

Soooooo….is this going to turn out good or bad for us? Does anybody have an idea? :(

Emily M. on January 28, 2011 at 5:47 PM

If Mubarak flees and there’s no immediate secular leader that rises…very bad.

The Muslim Brotherhood is probably the most powerful organization outside of the current Egyptian government. They have an infrastructure, strongly-supported leaders, and funds to win over the people.

Think Iran ’79.

amerpundit on January 28, 2011 at 5:49 PM

Emily, with the Muslim Brotherhood in charge??? Likely to be Iran level of bad.

michaelo on January 28, 2011 at 5:49 PM

Then the clash between the military and the protesters is inevitable.

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 5:43 PM

It’s gone on a bit longish, by now. It’ll take some major brutality, visible to the world. They can’t hide it all. If he wins, then Obama has to decide on rewarding the brutality by giving him more aid. More hard questions for the manchild..

a capella on January 28, 2011 at 5:50 PM

NBC NEWS agrees: The Army has retaken Cairo’s central square.

amerpundit on January 28, 2011 at 5:50 PM

Soooooo….is this going to turn out good or bad for us? Does anybody have an idea? :(

Emily M. on January 28, 2011 at 5:47 PM

One more country under the control of the muslime brotherhood….not being rude to you but what do you think..good or bad for us?

sicoit on January 28, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Here’s an interesting signal. Right now there is a curfew in Egypt; it is currently being completely ignored, and there is no visible police enforcement of the curfew. In the speech Mubarak just gave he said he would not allow lawlessness. If there is no police force enforcement of the curfew, then it would strongly signal that this was recorded earlier and that the structure of law enforcement has degraded.

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 5:41 PM

Mubarak is going nowhere. The police withdrew because they are low paid slubs who couldn’t handle things. The military has been brought in to stabilize things and once they do the police will reappear. In the morning there will be a policeman and a soldier on every street corner in Cairo. That is what the not allowing lawlessness was about.

Rocks on January 28, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Winning The Future.

portlandon on January 28, 2011 at 5:51 PM

The State Department was just told by the FDT florist to shove their order of flowers to the new government.

Limerick on January 28, 2011 at 5:51 PM

NBC NEWS agrees: The Army has retaken Cairo’s central square.

amerpundit on January 28, 2011 at 5:50 PM

Well, I guess we know who’s in control of the Army.

Cr4sh Dummy on January 28, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Wow, Gibbs says “Leaders around the world have to be responsive and responsible to the people they govern’….

President PantLoad and the rest of the DemoTard a$$holes should maybe listen to that line a few more times….

BigWyo on January 28, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Some say Mubarak is on his way out, but I’m having a hard time believing he will give up so easily. He is a dictator after all.

SlaveDog on January 28, 2011 at 5:51 PM

If Mubarak does leave and anyone tries to form a coalition government, that’s when the car bombs start detonating. The gunmen are preparing to move in.

Bishop on January 28, 2011 at 5:52 PM

michaelo on January 28, 2011 at 5:49 PM

Ya beat me to it….great minds and all that. :-)

sicoit on January 28, 2011 at 5:52 PM

Mubarak: “The Days of Big Government are Over”, everyone will go except me, your Messiah.

Obama: “Hey, Let’s Make Some More Investments, While I Change My Cabinet”

Rovin on January 28, 2011 at 5:52 PM

In a secret diplomatic dispatch, sent on December 30 2008, Margaret Scobey, the US Ambassador to Cairo, recorded that opposition groups had allegedly drawn up secret plans for “regime change” to take place before elections, scheduled for September this year…

I am really questioning the time on this.

Very odd.

upinak on January 28, 2011 at 5:53 PM

Better the army on the streets than the sharia police. I’m hoping Mubarak survives and calls Obama a p*ssy on Fox News.

Fortunata on January 28, 2011 at 5:53 PM

I find it hard to believe Obama would be behind any “regime” change? If our Government was behind this what do we gain by a destabilized Egypt?I say if it’s true no one told Bammy.
sandee on January 28, 2011 at 5:41 PM

I’d say Bammy would like an Islamist government in Egypt via the Muslim Brotherhood. He sure didn’t lift a finger to bring the Iranian one down when the golden opportunity presented itself…

CCRWM on January 28, 2011 at 5:54 PM

And incidentally, NBC News was reporting as if Mubarak was leaving.
amerpundit on January 28, 2011 at 5:33 PM

I’m not blaming you. That would be messenger shooting.

YYZ on January 28, 2011 at 5:55 PM

This whole thing looks like a Catch 22 for Israel.

That being said, I think that Mubarak might be on the right track if he can make some real, meaningful concessions. That is assuming it is not too late to placate the protesters/rioters.

I don’t trust the look of the protests. Like many have pointed out, it smells like Iran in the 70s or China in the 20s (Soviet inspired rise of the CCP).

One thing is for sure though, smoke and mirrors will get him killed.

Pattosensei on January 28, 2011 at 5:55 PM

Soooooo….is this going to turn out good or bad for us? Does anybody have an idea? :(

Emily M. on January 28, 2011 at 5:47 PM

They are officially revoking the future rights to the Bangles Song Walk like an Egyptian, and any future use of the Triangle shape in advertising.

portlandon on January 28, 2011 at 5:55 PM

That is what the not allowing lawlessness was about.

Rocks on January 28, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Looks like you’re right. ameripundit is commenting that the army has already clashed with protesters in Egypt.

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 5:56 PM

I don’t know where to stand on this one. As far as Arab leaders go Mubarek, albeit a tyrant, is relatively moderate and any change is bound to radically worse both for the USA and for Israel. (Which is why Obama is probably helping the opposition.)

MaiDee on January 28, 2011 at 5:56 PM

I am really questioning the time on this.

Very odd.

upinak on January 28, 2011 at 5:53 PM

I just hope that we evacuated all American civilians and our embassy BEFORE dropping this piece of information.

portlandon on January 28, 2011 at 5:56 PM

Thank God Obama gave that Cairo speech!!

Caper29 on January 28, 2011 at 5:58 PM

“The who lost Egypt” blame game has begun.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/01/axelrod-president-obama-has-on-several-occasions-directly-confronted-mubarak-on-human-rights-for-the.html

See Obama tried to warn him, etc.

PappyD61 on January 28, 2011 at 5:58 PM

One more country under the control of the muslime brotherhood….not being rude to you but what do you think..good or bad for us?

sicoit on January 28, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Of course that would be bad. -_-
I guess I’m just hoping for a miracle and they can find someone kind of secular to step in…

Emily M. on January 28, 2011 at 5:58 PM

Not another distraction!

/solar shingles!

Ward Cleaver on January 28, 2011 at 6:00 PM

I just hope that we evacuated all American civilians and our embassy BEFORE dropping this piece of information.

portlandon on January 28, 2011 at 5:56 PM

Bamster and Co. do not have the first idea how to handle this and are winging the whole thing. First Biden says Mubarek is “no dictator”, now the “leaks” are saying that Bush set this in motion (and O did nothing to stop it), something is wrong here.

clnurnberg on January 28, 2011 at 6:00 PM

And with a Radical Iran style government in Cairo wouldn’t that necessarily put pressure on Israel to make more concessions to the Palestinians (and thereby facilitate “peace”)?

I don’t doubt Axelrod for a moment that Obama has been involved in this.

PappyD61 on January 28, 2011 at 6:00 PM

See Obama tried to warn him, etc.

PappyD61 on January 28, 2011 at 5:58 PM

Gag.

Obama confronted Mubarak about human rights? Sure.

Obama, the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize winner just gave China (who his holding the 2010 Peace prize winner prisoner) an elegant state dinner with all sorts of praise and love-love.

Obama is a scum.

portlandon on January 28, 2011 at 6:00 PM

Yeah Obama addressed Mubarak on human rights.Just like he did the Chinese leader at that lavish dinner…..

sandee on January 28, 2011 at 6:02 PM

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