Egypt in flames: Ruling party’s headquarters burning in Cairo after massive protests; Update: Hillary calls for restraint; Update: U.S. to “review” foreign aid to Egypt; Update: Egyptian authorities holding talks on forming “transitional government”?

posted at 11:48 am on January 28, 2011 by Allahpundit

Things are happening fast so let’s get a thread up. A 6 p.m. curfew has been imposed and, thus far, widely ignored. Tanks are starting to roll as I write this and there are reports on Twitter of “loud explosions” and live ammo being used in downtown Cairo. The Telegraph has a screencap from Al Jazeera showing Mubarak’s party headquarters in the city on fire; other party headquarters have been ransacked in Mansoura and Suez. The State Department says it’s deeply concerned and is calling on Mubarak to enact reforms and allow peaceful protests — although I think we’re past that point by now. Mubarak was supposed to speak at around 11 a.m. but nothing from him yet.

Sad to say, your best bet at the moment is by clicking the image below and watching the live stream from Al Jazeera English. Its agenda is no secret — Hezbollah and Hamas are particular favorites — but they’re on the top of the minute-by-minute news here like no one else. So much so, in fact, that their feed may go down at any moment: Word earlier was that Egyptian police were banging on the door of their Cairo bureau headquarters.

Stand by for updates, needless to say.

Update: ElBaradei is a potential compromise choice between secular dissidents and Islamists to lead Egypt if Mubarak falls since the fundies might not want to be too aggressive with their agenda at first. Better to keep that U.S. aid flowing, no? So naturally he’s under house arrest.

Update: Egyptian police reportedly grabbed CNN’s camera and beat the hell out of a BBC reporter. In Iran, however, the media is as pleased as can be by what’s happening. The end of Mubarak means the end of the cold peace between Egypt and Israel in all likelihood, plus lots of new arms smuggled to Iran’s proxy in Gaza. What’s not to like?

And speaking of cold peace, there are now reports of small protests breaking out … in Jordan.

Update: Via the Right Scoop, a halting call for reform from Hillary. She calls on Mubarak not to use violence, to lift the Internet ban, and to liberalize, but emphasizes that Egypt has long been an important partner in the region. I.e. this ain’t a call for regime change, rather a path to regime preservation.

Says David Shenk at the Atlantic, “Is anyone else ashamed so far by the U.S. response to the protests in Egypt?”

Update: A potentially important moment in Alexandria. Are the cops starting to tilt towards the protesters?

After more than two hours of brutal, pitched battle, of tear-gas canisters and rubber bullets crossing paths with protesters’ paving stones, the seemingly impossible happened.

The two sides shook hands. Riot cops and kheffiyeh-wearing youngsters smiled and shared water bottles as piles of tires still burned. The chairs and bottles stopped raining down from apartment building balconies.

Thousands stood on the six-lane coastal road, the gentle green waves of the Mediterranean at their backs, as they got on their knees and prayed.

That’s just one neighborhood, with “fierce fighting” reported elsewhere in the city, but stay tuned.

Update: More anecdotal reports of the protesters appealing to the army to join them:

[Updated 12:47 p.m. (1947 in Egypt)] Protesters at the Information Ministry in Cairo are chanting, “The people and the army, we are one,” CNN’s Fred Pleitgen reports.

[Updated 12:44 p.m. (1944 in Egypt)] Armored personnel carriers are pulling into Alexandria. Protesters are embracing the military presence, CNN’s Nic Robertson reports.

Update: In case you missed it yesterday, here’s a widely circulated YouTube clip showing how far some cops are willing to go.

Update: Via the NYT’s “Lede” blog, a battle for the bridge.

Update: Scroll down to the 7:46 p.m. entry on Al Jazeera’s liveblog to see what an Internet blackout looks like in graph form. Not surprisingly, Syria’s own Internet blackout is even darker today than it was previously.

Update: If you missed it in Headlines this morning, here’s Bruce Riedel searching very, very hard for a silver lining in the threat of an Islamist takeover. The Muslim Brotherhood? Hey, they’re not so bad!

The Egyptian Brotherhood renounced violence years ago, but its relative moderation has made it the target of extreme vilification by more radical Islamists. Al Qaeda’s leaders, Osama bin Laden and Ayman Zawahiri, started their political lives affiliated with the Brotherhood but both have denounced it for decades as too soft and a cat’s paw of Mubarak and America.

Egypt’s new opposition leader, former International Atomic Energy Agency head Mohamed ElBaradei, has formed a loose alliance with the Brotherhood because he knows it is the only opposition group that can mobilize masses of Egyptians, especially the poor. He says he can work with it to change Egypt. Many scholars of political Islam also judge the Brotherhood is the most reasonable face of Islamic politics in the Arab world today.

For a more sober take, read David Ignatius for a reminder that revolutions that start off inspired by liberation often don’t end up that way. Quote: “[F]rom the French and Russian revolutions to the Iranian uprising of 1979, the idealistic but disorganized street protesters usually give way to a manipulative revolutionary elite – the ‘Revolutionary Guard,’ as the Iranians like to call them.” The Brotherhood has the best organized opposition and a potential western-friendly front man in ElBaradei. What could go wrong?

Update: Baaaaad timing.

Update: Time to turn off the money tap?

An Obama administration official says the U.S. will review its $1.5 billion in aid to Egypt based on events unfolding in the country, where the authoritarian government is struggling to extinguish huge and growing street protests…

The decision to review assistance to Egypt is a significant step as the U.S. seeks to balance the desire to maintain stability in the region with a recognition of the unexpected scope and uncertain outcome of the protests.

If they suspend aid until Mubarak ends the crackdown and then the regime falls, what then? If elections are held and the Brotherhood comes to power, we’re not actually going to reinstate the funding — are we?

Update: Idle thought: Even if Mubarak holds on, the Mubarak family dynasty is finished. His son’s been expected for years to take power when dad finally dies/quits, but after today, the military’s not going to want to risk another uprising by retaining the face of inheritable autocracy. Lee Smith suggested an alternative yesterday:

If Gamal [Mubarak] goes, the likely successor will be intelligence chief Omar Suleiman, the man rumored to be the young Mubarak’s chief rival, or alternately, the future power behind Gamal’s throne. Gamal’s problem is that he has no military experience whatsoever, a liability for the prospective head of a regime whose coherence and internal legitimacy is based on nothing other than its symbiotic relationship with the military. Nonetheless, even if Gamal really were to leave for London and even if his father stepped down, or just decided not to run for president later this year, the Mubarak regime would not fall because in reality there is no Mubarak regime as such. Rather, it is a Free Officers regime, one that has lasted almost half a century, or dating back to the 1952 coup that deposed King Farouk.

Can even the Free Officers regime last now, though? Suleiman would have to make some sort of democratic concessions to make governance by an intelligence chief palatable to the public.

Update: Some useful context at the Corner to explain why crowds of protesters are cheering the military. It’s not Egyptian troops who are typically used to suppress dissent, it’s state policemen. The military is evidently admired, and since they’re not used to being deployed against the people, there’s at least a chance that they might flip.

Update: Via Powerline, a bombshell if true. But is it?

Arabic media sources on Friday night reported that Egyptian authorities are holding talks to establish a “transitional government,” following a series of protests against President Hosni Mubarak’s regime.

Meanwhile, the head of the Egyptian opposition Wafd party said Egypt needs a period of transitional rule, new parliamentary elections and amendments to the constitution limiting presidential terms, Reuters reported.

Seems awfully early for the regime to be crumbling. The Tunisian protests went on for a month, remember, before Ben Ali took off. Probably this is just a rumor being spread by protesters to shake the police’s faith in the regime. But stay tuned!

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Gibbs keeps saying “I don’t have a list of every conversation…” when he’s asked if Obama or Clinton have made any calls. PUNT!

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 3:45 PM

“we’re in touch with… I dunno.. I don’t have thier phone numbers… uhh. the pentagon is always productive.. we are with the government and … uhh..”

Folks, we are in some deep waters.

“I, I, I, repeateadly, I I think that I mentioned of the extension of Mubarak, uh, I think they have to be omnipotent and a whole lotta suff, a process that involves it has to be enumerated from his speech, ”

Oye.

Key West Reader on January 28, 2011 at 3:45 PM

Gibbs admits Obama is not talking to any other world leaders re this!!!!!!!!!!!!!

faraway on January 28, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Translate this conference. Because it will be historical.

Key West Reader on January 28, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Mishandled what is thy name?

Iran 1978

Egypt 2011

PappyD61 on January 28, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Gibbs says Obama has not made specific calls on this matter…

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 3:47 PM

Reporter: I love this guy talking right now. “No common strategy with 4-5 allies?”

Gibbs: We’re watching a fluid situation, which has changed while I am standing up here saying nothing.

Reporter: WTF?

Mr_Magoo on January 28, 2011 at 3:47 PM

Man, Dhimmi Carter was a piker by comparison to this President for Life 0Bama.

So far, 0Bama has lost Turkey, Lebanon, and now Egypt….whereas Carter lost “only” Iran.

dmh0667 on January 28, 2011 at 3:48 PM

*We are making a very robust diplomatic effort, but it would be awaste of my time to describe it to you.*

a capella on January 28, 2011 at 3:48 PM

Key word: watching

Mr_Magoo on January 28, 2011 at 3:48 PM

Was the word ‘gibberish’ created with reference to Gibbs?

slickwillie2001 on January 28, 2011 at 3:48 PM

*We are making a very robust diplomatic effort, but it would be awaste of my time to describe it to you.*

a capella on January 28, 2011 at 3:48 PM

LOL! And true dat!

Mr_Magoo on January 28, 2011 at 3:49 PM

Gibbs dodges question on the whereabouts of Mubarak…

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 3:49 PM

Gibbs says Obama has not made specific calls on this matter…

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 3:47 PM

Too busy ordering a new putter or maybe the champagne d=for tonight’s WH soiree.

clnurnberg on January 28, 2011 at 3:49 PM

Obama has not talked to leaders in Israel either!!!!!!!!!!!1

faraway on January 28, 2011 at 3:49 PM

Gibbs says Obama has not made specific calls on this matter…

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 3:47 PM

Why would he? Who would listen to him?

Rocks on January 28, 2011 at 3:49 PM

faraway on January 28, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Check out the British press. The government mouthpieces –’journalists’ — in the Telegraph are already telling us it’s none of our business.

Fortunata on January 28, 2011 at 3:49 PM

slickwillie2001 on January 28, 2011 at 3:48 PM

I think we should change the pronunciation to make it so.

clnurnberg on January 28, 2011 at 3:50 PM

Was the word ‘gibberish’ created with reference to Gibbs?

slickwillie2001 on January 28, 2011 at 3:48 PM

LOL! Emphasis mine. Very astute observation.

Mr_Magoo on January 28, 2011 at 3:50 PM

What a friggen disaster. At this point, I don’t give a crap who the GOP puts up in 2012… even Huckabee (*ducks*) would be better than this piker.

Republican on January 28, 2011 at 3:50 PM

Rocks on January 28, 2011 at 3:44 PM

All valid points. But there really is deep-seated disdain towards Mubarak. Whether this was manufactured or not (I was inclined to think the protests were manufactured at first) is irrelevant now. This thing has snowballed to the point where people are openly defying the government.

As for the point about the military and the Military head. You’re right, we don’t know for sure right now. It’s still very ambiguous. However, a lot of the rumors circulating now say that the military has abandoned support for Mubarak. Is it a fact? No.

Cr4sh Dummy on January 28, 2011 at 3:50 PM

Check out the British press. The government mouthpieces –’journalists’ — in the Telegraph are already telling us it’s none of our business.

Fortunata on January 28, 2011 at 3:49 PM

They are not looking for the violence to spread to London

clnurnberg on January 28, 2011 at 3:51 PM

Isn’t Obama taking names so he knows “who’s ass to kick.”

Mr_Magoo on January 28, 2011 at 3:51 PM

Robert Gibbbs….uh…..has to be the…..uh….. dumbest……uh……sob on the …….uh……planet. Jeez what a doofus.

MJZZZ on January 28, 2011 at 3:51 PM

Gibbs says Obama has not made specific calls on this matter…

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 3:47 PM

Probably a good thing. Children shouldn’t run with scissors.

a capella on January 28, 2011 at 3:51 PM

clnurnberg on January 28, 2011 at 3:51 PM

They’re not fooling anyone in Englandistan.

Fortunata on January 28, 2011 at 3:52 PM

wow this is beyond incompetence……..I fear for the Coptic Christians in Egypt. King Tut would of handled this press conference better!

justonevictory on January 28, 2011 at 3:53 PM

Gibbs just said it’s OK for the government to fall, as long as social networking is restored!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

faraway on January 28, 2011 at 3:53 PM

Ok to demonize doctors and health insurers. Can’t say a cross word about Vodafone though.

stldave on January 28, 2011 at 3:53 PM

EGYPT: HAVE TO, MUST, UNEQUIVACABLY

IRAN: CRICKETS

Mr_Magoo on January 28, 2011 at 3:53 PM

They’re not fooling anyone in Englandistan.

Fortunata on January 28, 2011 at 3:52 PM

But that won’t stop them from trying or getting out the old appeasement ‘brelly

clnurnberg on January 28, 2011 at 3:54 PM

Gibbs press conference takeaway:

“We condemn violence by protesters and police”
“We are monitoring the situation closely”
“This is a rapidly changing situation”
“Obama has called no one in the region on this issue”
“Gibbs does not have a list of every conversation that’s taken place in D.C.”
“Egypt should turn on the internet but we wont pressure Vodafon”
“The people of Egypt will have to solve the problem”
“The government of Egypt will have to solve the problem”
“We’ve no clue where Mubarak is”
“Our statments have been very clear”

We’re in the best of hands.

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 3:54 PM

Gibbs: I think it’s uh, the economy and the reaction to the… interruption

It seems almost as an interruption by the egyption media and the public and

“I, i don’g have

If it

Uhh. not uh, not anything that I uh, not antything on a program level that I would say and stipulation that seems to washington

laughter

on what level is he speaking to world leaders

I’ i am not ah sure, it is safe to sday that I was, ever since I was here that ..

Uhh..

Is the US at risk with the financial situation

Gibbs: The people need to react, they have had enough time, they’re financies have they have to do .. we will watch with the urging of restaint of the sheer forces all athat are willing to participate. Garbled.

Uh, em, information, i don’t have information, i hahaha, it was uh, no no no, i thinkjg again that uh, we’ve been very serious about uh sebtacks to use social netowrking, i don’t want to be a setbakc.. auhhh people in egyypt have a right to ..

reporoter”: you are temporing

gibbsllll people of eguyypt have full acfess networks i’m not temporing any one worrd or one world what is done by the government is done by the government.

I don’t think the opel in egypt hhave to not

Mmediat=, where is direction

Gibbs well, uh, i apparently that was what he said yesterday, uh, so uh, in particular i don’t know..

financial question. I spent 9 hours , protest frrom foreign media.. why are you supporting these regimes in media.

And, here comes Shepherd Smith.

Dang. Translation cut off.

Key West Reader on January 28, 2011 at 3:56 PM

a capella on January 28, 2011 at 3:51 PM

True, but with what could happen to oil, and further unrest, I’d hope that the Pres would at least reach out to Israel and SA. But no calls?

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 3:56 PM

Protesters form human shield to protect museum in Cairo from being looted.

..by protesters. They make it sound like the police or army were looting or something.

Rocks on January 28, 2011 at 3:56 PM

On the other hand, Vice-President Biden, who was put on the ticket due to his foreign policy experience, has made the very astute comment…”Man, Egypt! This is a big effin deal!”

Vince on January 28, 2011 at 3:57 PM

Oh good. Now, Shep will summarize. Counting the number of Gibbsey’s repeated phrases.
Shep is an intellectual type.

a capella on January 28, 2011 at 3:57 PM

Vince on January 28, 2011 at 3:57 PM

Actually Biden said Mubarek was “no dictator”

clnurnberg on January 28, 2011 at 3:58 PM

Facebook and Twitter. They are a basic human right now.

Rocks on January 28, 2011 at 3:58 PM

Update: Via Powerline, a bombshell if true. But is it?

Wow! That’s amazing.

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 3:58 PM

Isn’t Obama taking names so he knows “who’s ass to kick.”

Mr_Magoo on January 28, 2011 at 3:51 PM

ROFL..:)

Dire Straits on January 28, 2011 at 3:59 PM

Does anyone know if there are any stories on the possible implications, of what we’re seeing in the ME, in China?

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 4:00 PM

Will Obama suspend his 2012 campaign or is he going to phone it in?

What’s a TOTUS to do? He will end up letting BJ Clinton handle this.

Geochelone on January 28, 2011 at 4:00 PM

Gibbs: The people need to react, they have had enough time, they’re financies have they have to do .. we will watch with the urging of restaint of the sheer forces all athat are willing to participate. Garbled.

From my transcription above. This is a transcibed quote from Mister BallChinnian, Robert Gibbs.

This was verbatim.

Key West Reader on January 28, 2011 at 4:01 PM

by protesters. They make it sound like the police or army were looting or something.

Rocks on January 28, 2011 at 3:56 PM

Yes, but the army helped defend it. Al Jazeera is reporting that the military has joined the protesters. And from their video feed, the military does not look like they’re willing to quell the protests.

Cr4sh Dummy on January 28, 2011 at 4:02 PM

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 4:00 PM

Brother, I think we see now.

Key West Reader on January 28, 2011 at 4:02 PM

I’m sure that will be reassuring /
clnurnberg on January 28, 2011 at 2:54 PM

Robert “Annoying babbling fool” Gibbs

ah —–ah——ah—ah——ah—

DSchoen on January 28, 2011 at 4:03 PM

Actually Biden said Mubarek was “no dictator”

clnurnberg on January 28, 2011 at 3:58 PM

You think he was saying that we ain’t seen nothin’ yet!?

Vince on January 28, 2011 at 4:04 PM

CNN is showing the most amazing footage:

First, in a side street, police and protesters clash. Then some older protesters try to bring calm to the younger protesters. Then the police and the protesters begin to literally talk in the street and try to make their cases with words. Then tempers flared again with the protesters and the police fell back.

That was amazing to see.

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 4:05 PM

Transitional government? Will the MB stand for any sort of secular rule? Iran would not be cheerleading that sort of outcome. I won’t hold my breath for the islamists to cave.

clnurnberg on January 28, 2011 at 4:05 PM

Brother, I think we see now.

Key West Reader on January 28, 2011 at 4:02 PM

Yeah, this could shape up to be an amazing year.

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 4:05 PM

Yes, but the army helped defend it. Al Jazeera is reporting that the military has joined the protesters. And from their video feed, the military does not look like they’re willing to quell the protests.

Cr4sh Dummy on January 28, 2011 at 4:02 PM

I don’t see anything on AJ which shows the military has joined the protesters. The army wouldn’t just go in and start shooting either. Like any military operation they would get all there pieces in position first. It could take hours or even days to replace the police. But I don’t think you will see much more looting and burning now that tanks are roaming the streets.

Rocks on January 28, 2011 at 4:06 PM

Must Read: Denninger’s righteous smackdowns:

Gibbs: You Listening To Yourself, Jackass?

President Obama is directly responsible for what is happening today. He has literally caused people to starve, and now to die.

Let me repeat that: President Obama is directly responsible for what is happening, Mr. Gibbs.

Also,

How To Destabilize A Region

This unrest is likely to spread, because unrest means disruption of supply lines, which in turn means prices go even higher. The same problems that caused this load of crap to happen are being made worse by it, and yet there’s not one peep in the mainstream media nor among Congress as to what actually caused all of this to occur, or any calls for those responsible to be forced to stop it.

Rae on January 28, 2011 at 4:06 PM

Gibbs admits Obama is not talking to any other world leaders re this!!!!!!!!!!!!!

faraway on January 28, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Oh wow. This is a disaster. A time of reckoning has come for choosing someone with so little governing experience.

conservative pilgrim on January 28, 2011 at 4:07 PM

Iran has spent too much money stirring up the Egyptians for them to have a non-puppet government, should Mubarak fall.

There are four options with Egypt:

1)Support Mubarak, bastard though he is

2)Allow the Muslim Brotherhood and Iran to control Egypt

3)Invade Egypt to be sure the successor to the Mubarak government isn’t MB

4)Wish upon a star, do a rain dance around our crystals and hoooope that small l small d liberal democratic government takes charge in Egypt—-sheeyah, right.

Sekhmet on January 28, 2011 at 4:08 PM

At such a critical moment in American foreign policy and in the stability of the Middle East, I’d like to thank the 52% of Americans who voted for this jackass.

Republican on January 28, 2011 at 4:08 PM

Cavuto’s first guest says he was amazed to listen to Gibbs, and if Gibbs thinks that the people on the street are going to forget that we have been backing a dictator for 50 years, he (Gibbs) is living in a dreamland.

Mr_Magoo on January 28, 2011 at 4:08 PM

Hillary sounded like the only adult in the administration this morning. I can’t believe the Democrats picked Obama. What did they do to the world?

And Biden is second in line… he says Mubarak is a great guy.

Has Biden ever, ever, been right about anything?

Why did he say anything at all? What an idiot!

petunia on January 28, 2011 at 4:08 PM

BREAKING:

Just in: Tanks are at the US, UK embassies in Cairo – Al Jazeera English.

From @ProducerMatthew

amerpundit on January 28, 2011 at 4:08 PM

Can someone please load up TOTUS?

faraway on January 28, 2011 at 4:09 PM

If they block the Suez Canal, then … eh. All bets are off.

Make a move, Obama. Stop basketballing and bowling and for cryin’ out loud stop with the gawd damn mani-pedi sessions.

Fag.

Key West Reader on January 28, 2011 at 4:09 PM

Sekhmet on January 28, 2011 at 4:08 PM

Those aren’t very encouraging choices.

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 4:09 PM

Transitional government? Will the MB stand for any sort of secular rule? Iran would not be cheerleading that sort of outcome. I won’t hold my breath for the islamists to cave.

clnurnberg on January 28, 2011 at 4:05 PM

Nope, they’ll “settle” for El-Baradei, and if you look reeealy closely, you can see Iran’s hand up his arse

Sekhmet on January 28, 2011 at 4:10 PM

I don’t see anything on AJ which shows the military has joined the protesters. The army wouldn’t just go in and start shooting either. Like any military operation they would get all there pieces in position first. It could take hours or even days to replace the police. But I don’t think you will see much more looting and burning now that tanks are roaming the streets.

Rocks on January 28, 2011 at 4:06 PM

I’m watching their live feed on the internet. That’s what they were speculating. They literally had a live shot of the protesters cheering the military. And the NRO article linked also doesn’t rule out the possibility that the military will turn on Mubarak. They turned on the Shaw.

I concur, their presence will definitely curtail the looting.

Cr4sh Dummy on January 28, 2011 at 4:10 PM

Is Obama golfing today? I bet he is barely paying attention.

I wish he had just resigned at the state of the union.

petunia on January 28, 2011 at 4:10 PM

amerpundit on January 28, 2011 at 4:08 PM

Dang! I was hoping that angle wouldn’t play out.

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 4:10 PM

From @ProducerMatthew

amerpundit on January 28, 2011 at 4:08 PM

Shhh.. You mustn’t interrupt his magesties nappagies. He likes his pudding upon wake up before the diaper change.

Key West Reader on January 28, 2011 at 4:11 PM

Many wealthy in #Egypt fleeing in private jets – NBC

@BreakingNews

amerpundit on January 28, 2011 at 4:11 PM

Those aren’t very encouraging choices.

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 4:09 PM

But am I wrong?

Sekhmet on January 28, 2011 at 4:12 PM

It looks like Obowma picked the wrong week to quite smoking…

Seven Percent Solution on January 28, 2011 at 4:13 PM

And now-Reports of financial corruption. President Mubarak accused of participation in massive ‘pyramid scheme’.

GreenBlade on January 28, 2011 at 4:13 PM

Sekhmet on January 28, 2011 at 4:12 PM

*Sigh* No.

Weight of Glory on January 28, 2011 at 4:14 PM

They turned on the Shaw.

Cr4sh Dummy on January 28, 2011 at 4:10 PM

George Bernard Shaw?

clnurnberg on January 28, 2011 at 4:14 PM

Who is next? Jordan?

clnurnberg on January 28, 2011 at 4:15 PM

And now-Reports of financial corruption. President Mubarak accused of participation in massive ‘pyramid scheme’.

GreenBlade on January 28, 2011 at 4:13 PM

Heh.

the_nile on January 28, 2011 at 4:15 PM

Gibbs admits Obama is not talking to any other world leaders re this!!!!!!!!!!!!!

faraway on January 28, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Sitting by the phone, waiting for calls that never come, wondering Why don’t they like me?

Lily on January 28, 2011 at 4:16 PM

Pyramid scheme? They had SOcial Securit in Egypt?

clnurnberg on January 28, 2011 at 4:16 PM

Cr4sh Dummy on January 28, 2011 at 4:10 PM

Their cheering the military means nothing. The military is popular. If Bloomberg sicked the Transit Police on all the subway riders I am sure they would cheer the army showing up….until the army started shooting. They are also reporting the Army was ordered on the streets and they did it. Who do you think ordered them? They are being dispatched to protect government buildings.

I would not be surprised to see that once the army has key points secured you will see the police reappear to deal with the protesters again. The army looks more like reinforcements here than protester sympathizers.

Rocks on January 28, 2011 at 4:16 PM

But am I wrong?

Sekhmet on January 28, 2011 at 4:12 PM

Nope. Those are the only feasible scenarios.

Cr4sh Dummy on January 28, 2011 at 4:17 PM

As am American. I have never had fear.

Under this presidunce, I do.

The unease will not invite malaise, Obama.

Get up off your bathroom floor and say something, and stop hugging the toilet. You wanted the job? You got it.

Shame on you, you mealy mouthed girly mon.

Key West Reader on January 28, 2011 at 4:18 PM

Who is next? Jordan?

clnurnberg on January 28, 2011 at 4:15 PM

Nah.

Abdullah II has brought about a pretty good economy, basic standards of living, and foreign investment. He’s also moved towards economic liberalization and promises democratic reforms.

amerpundit on January 28, 2011 at 4:19 PM

But, but Obama read a speech in Cairo….

AverageJoe on January 28, 2011 at 4:22 PM

Rocks on January 28, 2011 at 4:16 PM

That’s a possibility, but as of right now, the military appears to be hedging their bets. They haven’t taking any punitive action.

Cr4sh Dummy on January 28, 2011 at 4:23 PM

Nah.

Abdullah II has brought about a pretty good economy, basic standards of living, and foreign investment. He’s also moved towards economic liberalization and promises democratic reforms.

amerpundit on January 28, 2011 at 4:19 PM

I concur.

Although, some people are talking about Libya being another country to fall.

Cr4sh Dummy on January 28, 2011 at 4:25 PM

That’s a possibility, but as of right now, the military appears to be hedging their bets. They haven’t taking any punitive action.

Cr4sh Dummy on January 28, 2011 at 4:23 PM

They wouldn’t. They aren’t in a position too, yet.

Rocks on January 28, 2011 at 4:25 PM

Check out the British press. The government mouthpieces –’journalists’ — in the Telegraph are already telling us it’s none of our business.

Fortunata on January 28, 2011 at 3:49 PM

Fine with me-they wanna take over the world? Go ahead Brits, for all I care. I dare you to intervene.

ProudPalinFan on January 28, 2011 at 4:27 PM

Neither Jordan nor Kuwait is going to fall. Their leaders lack the same hatred and yet possess a larger ability to appease their people on the fly.

amerpundit on January 28, 2011 at 4:27 PM

Egypt is caught between Barock and a hard place. Time for Barry to follow Carter into one term Political infamy.

CARTER REDUX.

Geochelone on January 28, 2011 at 4:28 PM

El Baradei is “western friendly”??? No, he’s Muslim Brotherhood friendly. Don’t forget that as head of the IAEA he helped to hide the illicit nature of Iran’s nuke program, and was ‘unaware’ that a nuclear reactor was being built in Syria.

ProfessorMiao on January 28, 2011 at 4:30 PM

Army has not declared whether they will back the protesters or the government.

Military surrounds the NDP HQ building.

Army joins protesters in protecting a museum.

Why would the army need to declare they are backing the government?

The NDP building is on fire. The army is clearly prtoecting the area so firefighters can put it out.

Again, there is only one group any building we need protection from. The protesters. The government isn’t likely to attack a museum.

I wonder who AlJazeera is rooting for her?

Rocks on January 28, 2011 at 4:30 PM

They wouldn’t. They aren’t in a position too, yet.

Rocks on January 28, 2011 at 4:25 PM

True. Mubarak is going to issue a statement soon; I think that will dictate what their course of action. Perhaps it will prove reports like this wrong.

Cr4sh Dummy on January 28, 2011 at 4:32 PM

Rocks on January 28, 2011 at 4:30 PM

Clearly the protesters. That was evident a long time ago.

Cr4sh Dummy on January 28, 2011 at 4:33 PM

Key West Reader on January 28, 2011 at 4:09 PM

I’m having a hard time reading this thread with the seriousness I should because I have tears rolling down my face from laughter at your comments about Gibbs and Obama! You are on a roll! LOL

KickandSwimMom on January 28, 2011 at 4:33 PM

Why do we have to give foreign aid to countries at all?
Aside from emergency food & medical aid, there should be no money given to anyone.

Badger40 on January 28, 2011 at 4:36 PM

ProudPalinFan on January 28, 2011 at 4:27

Don’t get me wrong, they’re not capable of mounting even something like the Falklands War anymore, and ordinary Brits certainly don’t want any more of our soldiers dying in Islamic crapholes. The idea is that the govt is trying to tell us that Muslim ‘democracy’ is a good thing — just like I’m hearing on some news outlets here. They don’t want us to think only 2 or 3 steps ahead, in case we don’t like our new Islamic overlords.

Fortunata on January 28, 2011 at 4:37 PM

Some of those wacky “end times” scenarios are starting to sound disturbingly credible.

Django on January 28, 2011 at 4:38 PM

KickandSwimMom on January 28, 2011 at 4:33 PM

Agreed. :^)

Django on January 28, 2011 at 4:40 PM

BREAKING: Three private jets leave Cairo airport under heavy security — NBC News

amerpundit on January 28, 2011 at 4:44 PM

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