Uh oh: White House declines to endorse Mubarak in Egypt
posted at 2:55 pm on January 26, 2011 by Ed Morrissey
To be fair, the White House is in a tough spot, as Allahpundit noted yesterday. We traditionally oppose dictatorships and support democratization movements. In places like Tunisia, where democratization efforts are championed by secular, more Western-friendly forces, that’s an easy mission for the US to back. In Egypt, however, the energy behind the political opposition comes from the Muslim Brotherhood, an Islamist force seeking not democracy but a new theocracy. And if this sounds familiar, it should:
White House Declines to Say If US Still Supports Egypt’s Mubarak
Asked Wednesday whether the U.S. still supports Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs reiterated that Egypt remains “a strong ally” and stressed the importance of universal rights for the people of Egypt.
“This isn’t about support or opposition to leaders – it’s about the support universal rights of assembly and expression. We criticize actions that restrict those values,” Gibbs told ABC News.
Gibbs said that the White House is “still monitoring the situation” in Egypt, where Mubarak is the target of protesters opposing his authoritarian government.
In 1979, another US administration faced a similar problem in Iran, which had been ruled by the Shah with something less than a velvet glove. Claims of human rights violations by the Shah and his security forces were well-documented, although the Shah had claimed — with highly dubious merit — to be modernizing and reforming his government. (He had instituted one-party rule four years previous to the crisis, and had attempted to build a cult of personality to sustain his throne.) The Shah fell as the result of a popular uprising, perhaps aided somewhat by the less-than-enthusiastic support given by Jimmy Carter and his administration in the preceding weeks, although to be fair again the CIA had just predicted that the Shah’s position was secure for the next decade.
Given Mubarak’s status as a de facto president-for-life and his own track record of political suppression, it’s almost impossible for Obama to endorse Mubarak. However, by signaling sudden distance between Mubarak and the US, the impulse to stage a coup will certainly not decrease. If Mubarak falls, the result will almost certainly be either a seizure of power by the Muslim Brotherhood or a military coup, both hardly desirable outcomes in Egpyt, especially considering its strategic position on the Suez Canal.
If the Muslim Brotherhood takes control of Egypt, Israel will suddenly face an existential threat to its south and from Gaza, as well as a new Hezbollah-run Lebanon in the north. That’s a nightmare scenario for Israel, which has its own issues with Mubarak but nothing on the scale of what may be coming.









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Surprising, considering the administration just stood in silence while the Green Revolution in Iran got slaughtered.
Maybe he’s learning a bit? The lesser of two evils is still evil, maybe?
KingGold on January 26, 2011 at 2:57 PM
The U.S. did nothing for Tunisia’s revolt. O should stop bragging about nada.
Name, I dare you all, one people who’re free, or freer, since O took office.
Schadenfreude on January 26, 2011 at 2:59 PM
Is Mubarak a Marxist? If he is, he’s good to go…
catmman on January 26, 2011 at 2:59 PM
The next rulers of Egypt will be the Moslem Brotherhood. I don’t suppose that’ll bother the President, but it will annoy me to no end to see President Zawahiri on TV all the time.
MTF on January 26, 2011 at 2:59 PM
KingGold on January 26, 2011 at 2:57 PM
Back to reading. In Egypt the extremists (of the 7th century) want to take over.
Schadenfreude on January 26, 2011 at 3:00 PM
Yep it’s a tough thing having to walk a fine line between a dictator and a terrorist group.
Now, about Honduras when the choices were far easier to make…
Bishop on January 26, 2011 at 3:00 PM
Distraction.
Who sat next to who last night?
aquaviva on January 26, 2011 at 3:01 PM
We are still suffering for Jimmy Carter’s failure to back the Shah of Iran.
Just when we need a Reagan, we get a Carter.
portlandon on January 26, 2011 at 3:01 PM
SEIU?
beancounter on January 26, 2011 at 3:02 PM
This is interesting,considering that at a presser today with the Spanish FM Hillary endorsed Mubarak’s regime.Also, FWIW DEBKA is reporting Mubarak’s family is on the way to London.
xkaydet65 on January 26, 2011 at 3:02 PM
How many billions have we given to Mubarak? He has probably padded his nest very nicely over the years with bars of gold, swiss accounts, etc. so when the family flees they can live off of our tax dollars for generations to come.
Drop him like a hot potato and who the hell cares who replaces him.
PatriotRider on January 26, 2011 at 3:02 PM
The Pan Am 103 Lockerbie Scotland Bomber?
portlandon on January 26, 2011 at 3:03 PM
First Obama turns his back on democracy protestors in Iran when it served American interests to support them against an aggressive Islamist government, and now he turns his back on the only available bulwark against the accession of Islamic fundamentalism in Egypt, following in the trail of glory blazed Jimmy Carter.
Two possibilities:
The worst is that Barry has decided he will support radical islamism wherever it appears. Entirely possible.
The “best” possibility is that Barry is just so utterly feckless and dense that his towering intellect is unable to distinguish the differences (er, nuances?) of the two situations and he’s only trying to balance out his bungling of the Iran affair by supporting the protestors in Egypt.
Thanks again, 52 percenters!
Cicero43 on January 26, 2011 at 3:03 PM
In 1979, the US had an administration similar to the current one.
Uh oh…
Bruno Strozek on January 26, 2011 at 3:04 PM
Cut off all foreign aid. It’s money that’s borrowed from China, and we have to pay the debt service on it.
PatriotRider on January 26, 2011 at 3:04 PM
so the muslim in chief is making his play. Lebenon, tunsia, turkey and now egypt. the islamists are winning thanks to Obama.
unseen on January 26, 2011 at 3:04 PM
The feeling is mutual, I’m sure.
Ward Cleaver on January 26, 2011 at 3:04 PM
Bill Clinton freed Muslims, when Europeans, the big mouths aristocrats for ‘human rights and equality’ sat on their arses…
GWB gave millions their freedom.
Ronald Reagan – look it up.
What the he*l has Obama done for human rights and freedom? He’s bowed to every communist and terrorist in the potentate world.
What a joke he and the land have become. Wake up and open yer eyes. He is a man sans spine and cojones. He can’t even talk about liberties, freedom and true human rights and liberalism.
Every thinking mind should choke on the thought of him, the farce.
Schadenfreude on January 26, 2011 at 3:05 PM
If the Muslim Brotherhood takes over after Mubarak leaves, then Carter II will officially have his own version of Iran. Not only that, he’ll have accomplished it while helping undo one of the few good things Carter I took part in, making peace between Egypt and Israel.
teke184 on January 26, 2011 at 3:05 PM
Welcome back…
teke184 on January 26, 2011 at 3:06 PM
Yeah, that simple choice was a no brainer.
fourdeucer on January 26, 2011 at 3:07 PM
This is starting to become eeeeeeeeeeerily similar to 79. I’m actually, for the first time in a very long while, starting to become fearful for Israel’s well being. You have Iran, Lebanon, and now Egypt??? This is not good everyone.
Indy82 on January 26, 2011 at 3:07 PM
The Cairo Speech not as effective as advertised.
Bishop on January 26, 2011 at 3:07 PM
Yeah, that will really reassure everybody else we currently support everywhere else. Any other sage foreign advice for us, Dr. Paul?
A Balrog of Morgoth on January 26, 2011 at 3:07 PM
Minor correction for purposes of accuracy.
Cicero43 on January 26, 2011 at 3:08 PM
I’m well aware of what’s at stake. I’m also aware that any destabilization of Egypt’s military, especially in a protracted war, will shift the lion’s share of military threat in the Mideast to Hezbollah and Hamas, two organizations that are eminently more beatable than Egypt.
Mubarak is not our friend. If Ahmadinejad did not exist, Mubarak would have to become him.
KingGold on January 26, 2011 at 3:09 PM
The only thing missing right now is a Palestinian uprising against the Jordanian government.
teke184 on January 26, 2011 at 3:09 PM
Ed, you laid out the dilemma quite well but failed to provide any useful path for the future. Do we support an obvious dictator or do we push for democracy that results in one vote and then an Islamist dictatorship? Either way, it’s a crap sandwich but which one should we take a bite out of? In my opinion, we should be for the freest government that is on our side. That doesn’t appear to be the Muslim Brotherhood. If we pull the legs out from under Mubarak and they take over, we’ll get zero credit for standing on principle. Lousy choice but there it is.
jnelchef on January 26, 2011 at 3:09 PM
It costs a lot of taxpayer money to operate the American Empire….
PatriotRider on January 26, 2011 at 3:09 PM
Sharia, with the U.S.’s billions a year…WTF, indeed, we’re Winning The Future, kids.
Obama is the biggest loser for the entire free world, ever.
Schadenfreude on January 26, 2011 at 3:10 PM
Many Muslim countries are swapping leaders during the Obama reign. Coinky dink?
faraway on January 26, 2011 at 3:10 PM
KingGold on January 26, 2011 at 3:09 PM
Thanks for clarifying. Either way, the next big battle of the world will be in that area.
The Sunnis and the Shia hate each other more than they both hate Israel and the U.S.
Fastern yer seatbelts. The world has changed, indeed.
Hope n’ Change!
Schadenfreude on January 26, 2011 at 3:13 PM
Forget the endorsements, we need to have people on the ground now handing out cash support to leaders who understand that the problems that Egyptians have are not caused by Israel.
pedestrian on January 26, 2011 at 3:13 PM
Agreed. And with the growing animosity towards Israel, from around the world…it’s even worse then I think we realize. :(
capejasmine on January 26, 2011 at 3:14 PM
Soon the Israel/Palestine ‘peace process’ or whatever they call it will be moot and tiny.
Schadenfreude on January 26, 2011 at 3:17 PM
Gosh, I hope this doesn’t make it difficult for “Twinkie McJizz” who lives in Cairo to donate to the 2012 PBHO campaign.
Bishop on January 26, 2011 at 3:17 PM
between the parties with the glorious leader of China and the date night of civility last night, we seem to have a new Lebanon, Tunisia, and Egypt.
r keller on January 26, 2011 at 3:17 PM
Hate to say it, but we’re inviting another Iran.
Kini on January 26, 2011 at 3:18 PM
If the thread is about Egypt why did Ed pick a picture of Obama shaking hands with Hugo Chavez?
Bruno Strozek on January 26, 2011 at 3:21 PM
Carter redux…
I’d say that it couldn’t happen to a nicer guy, except we are all on the speeding train with him and will suffer the same consequences.
In the end, she will defend herself. Since that will most likely involve mushroom clouds, that’s a painful and sadly altogether avoidable conclusion.
I have often said that Obama was far too dangerous a man to have ever been elected. My heart hopes and prays that I am proven wrong. My brain tells me that many will die as a direct result of our error in electing him.
Good vs. evil, right vs. wrong, biblical proportions, real fire and brimstone stuff we are going to see.
turfmann on January 26, 2011 at 3:21 PM
Illinois State Senator Barack Obama, Oct 2, 2002:
That’s from his famous anti-Iraq war speech. The one he based his presidential bid on.
He knew exactly what to do when he wasn’t President, didn’t he.
MayBee on January 26, 2011 at 3:21 PM
I imagine our embassy people in Egypt are recalling ’79 and getting a bit nervous.
a capella on January 26, 2011 at 3:22 PM
Let us see….
Obowma has to choose between:
A) A De Facto President-for-Life
B) The Muslim Brotherhood
or
C) A Military Junta
… What does one do when you have to pick one from your three loves?
Seven Percent Solution on January 26, 2011 at 3:22 PM
OT, talk about wussies, communist ones.
Schadenfreude on January 26, 2011 at 3:25 PM
D) None of the above.
PatriotRider on January 26, 2011 at 3:26 PM
Don’t forget Pock-y-ston and Af-gon-y-ston…
steebo77 on January 26, 2011 at 3:27 PM
Look on the Bright Side — in Lebanon the people that blew up the Marines will now be in the open and our marines are good at getting some payback – not all have forgotten – Egypt and the rest will make a good Buffer ..
wheels on January 26, 2011 at 3:28 PM
Now’s the time to back the Palestinians to invade Egypt and seize the Sinai Peninsula to establish Palestine!
Seriously, we need to stand by our ally, Israel, and let our dictator ‘friends’ deal with karma by themselves. In the future, when they or the theocracy that replaces them threaten us, we need to do the @ss kicking, and skip the nation building and just leave while warning if they don’t behave, we’ll be back.
cartooner on January 26, 2011 at 3:29 PM
Under the peace treaty with Israel, Egypt has no heavy artillery or other “major” forces in Sinai. I’m sure the IDF has a contingency plan for a coup in Egypt, and I would imagine it would involve a defensive line somewhere not too far east of the canal.
An Islamist coup would be bad news for the Copts, but remember there are 10 million of them and they’ve already had it up to here with crap.
sdillard on January 26, 2011 at 3:30 PM
Israel won’t tolerate much from the Muslim Brotherhood… or Hezbollah.
mankai on January 26, 2011 at 3:31 PM
Black Panthers in Philly
DamnCat on January 26, 2011 at 3:31 PM
Look closer, my friend. That is indeed Hosni Mubarak
thebrokenrattle on January 26, 2011 at 3:32 PM
FDA, EPA, IRS
mankai on January 26, 2011 at 3:33 PM
Egypt is a prime link in our defense forces in the Suez Canal to Somalia region. Plus, the Egyptians are super smart folks willing to do their part. So why wish destruction upon them. That would only help out the Al Qaeda guys’ plans for us. But that seems fine to Obama.
jimw on January 26, 2011 at 3:34 PM
There is no such thing as a Muslim democracy and Barry knows it.
Valiant on January 26, 2011 at 3:35 PM
The Islamic Savagehood might very well take over government control, but the real question is what would the Egyptian military do? If they roll over then Egypt is lost to the jihadis, if they don’t, then what, some sort of civil war?
Either way, PBHO will be in so far over his head that he may just decide to quit the job for “family” reasons.
Bishop on January 26, 2011 at 3:37 PM
The three favorite words of the Hot Air blog.
Daemonocracy on January 26, 2011 at 3:38 PM
Have yourself blindfolded, and throw a dart.
I have a feeling this is as competent as this administration will ever be.
capejasmine on January 26, 2011 at 3:46 PM
The only group Obama has more disdain for than the American people is Israel. Don’t see him losing any sleep over their security. Now of course if Israel gets pushed to the edge and does something really drastic he will have the excuse he wants to throw them “under the bus.”
katiejane on January 26, 2011 at 3:46 PM
you have a particular fetish for wanting the US to back dictatorships?
there something about them that appeals to you?
audiculous on January 26, 2011 at 3:48 PM
Let’s see, the Muslims seem to be taking over one country at a time, meanwhile duh-bama is silent. Hmmm.
tarpon on January 26, 2011 at 3:49 PM
boy the world sure dodged a bullet when we elected Obama instead of THAT WOMAN and oldman
unseen on January 26, 2011 at 3:51 PM
you have a particular fetish for wanting the US to back dictatorships?
there something about them that appeals to you?
audiculous on January 26, 2011 at 3:48 PM
yeah they are 100 times better then the the theology regimes that comes after they are deposed.
unseen on January 26, 2011 at 3:52 PM
And if the Muslim Bro’hood takes over, the same will be said I’m sure.
You weren’t too critical of Iran killing people who exercised those same rights a year ago.
Akzed on January 26, 2011 at 3:52 PM
That’s nat a bug, that’s a feature.
/teh one
agmartin on January 26, 2011 at 3:52 PM
Second Thoughts on all those M-1 tanks we sold to Egypt….
pseudonominus on January 26, 2011 at 3:55 PM
Matter of degree is indignant. Ask the women in Iran.
Schadenfreude on January 26, 2011 at 3:55 PM
Probably has something to do with the alternative. Not a new concept.
a capella on January 26, 2011 at 3:55 PM
Oops!
Forgot the /sarc tag
Bruno Strozek on January 26, 2011 at 3:55 PM
PC will kill us all.
The West deserves demise. It will be self-made by PC.
Schadenfreude on January 26, 2011 at 3:56 PM
A few of the exmilitary guys were talking about this on one of Ace’s threads. Apparently, the possiblity of those tanks falling into jihadi hands was accounted for during prep work. A kill switch or something similar was mentioned.
a capella on January 26, 2011 at 3:59 PM
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Come on, Ed. You know the Islamists are already plotting to take over Tunisia and the US, under Obama, will do absolutely nothing to help prevent that from happening.
huckleberryfriend on January 26, 2011 at 3:59 PM
On the bright side, we can stop giving them foreign aid.
koolbrease on January 26, 2011 at 3:59 PM
Ed and Alah’s way of saying: “but I ain’t one to gossip so you didn’t hear dat from me”.
darwin-t on January 26, 2011 at 4:01 PM
Peanut head, 1977 = Iranian terror state
Clown in chief, 2011 = Egyptian terror state
Plus ca change, plus ce le meme chose
Vashta.Nerada on January 26, 2011 at 4:01 PM
And another one goes under the bus…
Kuffar on January 26, 2011 at 4:02 PM
Not at all like Carter and Iran. The merdivorous Jimmy Carter engineered the return of Khomeini from Paris. You might as well call him a co-conspirator in the coup. The idiot’s theory was that islamism would be a force in the Middle East to balance Soviet communism.
This time around, Bammie is a disinterested bystander. I suspect that his merry band of White House Progs don’t realize what will happen if the islamofascists take Egypt.
slickwillie2001 on January 26, 2011 at 4:05 PM
The words “powder keg” comes to mind. Egypt and Lebanon will embolden the Islamists even more. And what will happen to the Coptic Christians?
Buy Danish on January 26, 2011 at 4:09 PM
Yeah, I suspect this is incompetence rather than malice aforethought. I’m not sure which is worse.
a capella on January 26, 2011 at 4:10 PM
Humble opinion and all, this is misinformation. Muslim B’hood has been a pain to Egypt for a long time. Recognized and outlawed. Yeah Egypt is corrupt but their military is US and Israeli trained. So there is a street riot. Seems LA had a couple within memory.
MB has bit off too much again. Hudna coming soon.
Caststeel on January 26, 2011 at 4:10 PM
They’ll explain it away to “a different culture”, like the ‘erudite’ Europeans do…you/we are the rubes.
Schadenfreude on January 26, 2011 at 4:12 PM
Oh, it this about ObaMao admin voting present again?
So solly to intrude. As you were.
Caststeel on January 26, 2011 at 4:14 PM
(What<emever you do, don’t give a DAMN THING BACK when they ask for it, if you want it to survive another five thousand years. Just sayin’…)
tree hugging sister on January 26, 2011 at 4:16 PM
Ten million is a pretty big bunch. Probably some form of civil war till the theocracy really got settled in with MB dudes in power, then..lights out. Ordnance supplies would be an issue.
a capella on January 26, 2011 at 4:16 PM
I do not believe it matters too much about whether the administration supports Murabek or not. When I was in Egypt in the summer of 2009, the Americans living there were talking about his health and age. He is over 80 right now. Also, when his 12 year old grandson died, there was talk that took a lot out of him. I do not believe he will be long in this world anyway, although admittedly that is conjecture on my part. So the real question IMHO is who will take over after he is gone? Does he have a hand-picked successor or is the Muslim Brotherhood taking over just a matter of time?
duggersd on January 26, 2011 at 4:16 PM
Obama probably figures with Mubarek gone, he’ll have some leverage with Bibi.
Leave it to Obama to insure Muslims will overtake the whole Middle East, including Israel.
When was the last time Obama bowed to Bibi…oh right, Obama left Bibi to fend for himself while he supposedly went to eat with Chewy and the kids… who were in NYC at the time.
marybel on January 26, 2011 at 4:18 PM
and by backing a brutal dictatorship all the way down, you help insure a brutal regime as the alternative.
audiculous on January 26, 2011 at 4:19 PM
Doesn’t that get dictated by which side the military supports? I’m not convinced that American and Israeli military training translates to loyalty to the present regime.
a capella on January 26, 2011 at 4:21 PM
Look for, if anything, a military coup. The Muslim Brotherhood, while a vocal opposition party, does not really exist as a group capable of taking control of Egypt’s government. Either way, I don’t see a repeat of Tunisia in Egypt; Mubarak will not slither away at the first sign of trouble.
ernesto on January 26, 2011 at 4:23 PM
I thought he was preparing his son to take over after him. Don’t know what the army thought of it though.
Fortunata on January 26, 2011 at 4:23 PM
No, a “democracy” is used as the vehicle to transform a secular dictatorship into a theocratic one, which is worse for us. That’s the historical evidence. It’ll happen in Iraq.
a capella on January 26, 2011 at 4:28 PM
SHAH II
.The Egyptian Sequel”
PappyD61 on January 26, 2011 at 4:32 PM
Yeah, I think so, although to some extent, the long term outcome depends on how well the military has been infiltrated by MB dudes and how receptive the masses are to Mubarak’s son taking over.
a capella on January 26, 2011 at 4:32 PM
You’re right. Problem for MB is that they cannot offer military anything the military can’t get for itself. Run the country ? Military already has a strong hand. Self preservation also works.
Caststeel on January 26, 2011 at 4:35 PM
I kinda have the idea that if you have a repressive dictatorship then the dictatorship is likely to impose conditions that would favor formation of a democracy in places were there hasn’t been one.
(so you think that our invasion of Iraq was a mistake because we deposed Saddam and the Baathists?)
audiculous on January 26, 2011 at 4:36 PM
The situation in Tunisian isn’t that clear either. The Islamists have been kept down by a dictator. And they’re certainly rejoicing over recent events.
Phoenician on January 26, 2011 at 4:39 PM
Sorry a capella, the US and Israeli training was indicative of a degree of competence. IIRC Egypt has had military leadership before. Self preservation vs. MB would appear to be a strong motivation.
Caststeel on January 26, 2011 at 4:42 PM
No, that part was fine. He was in defiance of numerous UN resolutions, the Oil for Peace scam was helping him, and intelligence said he had WMD. We totally fu*ked up the transition part. Look at what is going on over there right now, Iran will own them in another 5 years. There is no way to create a lasting democracy with Islamic countries in the long haul. They don’t want it. Dubya had his head in the clouds.
a capella on January 26, 2011 at 4:45 PM
Yeah, I knew what you meant and I agree with the rest of it. Hope we’re right. Another Turkey, before Ergan gained power, may be the best we can hope for.
a capella on January 26, 2011 at 4:48 PM
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