Video: One Gosnell victim speaks

posted at 12:00 pm on January 23, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

CNN interviews LaToya Ransome, one of the victims of Kermit Gosnell, who faces eight counts of murder and other charges for his gruesome abortion practice in Philadelphia. Ransome, clearly reluctant to be on camera, relates how Gosnell’s work ended up making her so ill that she had to have open-heart surgery and disabled her. Ransome says that the death penalty is too easy for him and wants him to get life in prison instead:

CNN’s Martin Savidge introduces the segment rather oddly, saying that Gosnell is accused of “destroying viable fetuses.” Certainly Gosnell faces charges of performing illegal third-trimester abortions, but he faces murder charges for killing babies, not “viable fetuses.”  The babies Gosnell murdered survived to birth, which means they no longer were “fetuses” at all.  They were, both legally and morally, live infants requiring care.  Instead, Gosnell and his staff stabbed them with scissors or cut their throats to kill them.

Other victims are also speaking out:

In one 1999 case, prosecutors said, 20-year-old Marie Smith was sent home after a Gosnell abortion unaware that he had been unable to remove the entire fetus from her uterus. Days later, vomiting and with a swollen abdomen and severe infection, Smith was taken to a hospital, where she was rushed into surgery.

Her mother, Johnnie Mae Smith, said she was shocked at the “nasty and dirty, filthy” conditions in the clinic. When her daughter took ill days later, she called Gosnell.

“I said, ‘What did you do to my daughter? … My daughter’s about to die,’ Smith said. “He said, ‘Take her to the hospital.’”

Gosnell turned up at the hospital with his checkbook, she said, aiming to settle immediately. Instead, she chased him away, vowing to sue. Later, her daughter got $3,000, after lawyer fees, from a $5,000 settlement.

It looks like one early consequence is that Gosnell has to find a new lawyer:

Defense lawyer William J. Brennan, who represented Gosnell during the investigation, said Gosnell “feels he has provided a general care medical facility in a fairly impoverished area for four decades.”

“That’s his belief,” Brennan said, “and he’s entitled to it.”

Gosnell told the magistrate he’s looking to retain another lawyer, and Brennan confirmed he’s not representing Gosnell anymore.

“I wish him well, but I am not taking this case,” Brennan said. “The doctor and I have had our run.”

Kevin McCullough argues today that the widespread revulsion created by the Gosnell case should cause people to take a much closer look at the abortion industry:

He was a monster. He was out of control. He deserves justice to the fullest measure–even if that were to mean the state took his life as a result.

It was as I was reading the details of the procedures he seemed to prefer to perform that I was suddenly struck by an overwhelming question that has not yet gone from my mind.

Why are we so outraged now?

The truth is, the procedure Gosnell preferred is not new. Third term, especially “late term,” abortions are performed the same way in overwhelming numbers.

Commonly referred to as “partial birth abortions” the procedure begins the same was as the “Gosnell abortion.” Inducing labor and beginning the delivery of the child is where most of the children are lost in both procedures. As many as 75% of the children lose their lives in the process of early induced labor. Leaving roughly 25% of the children involved to have their lives terminated through an additional step.

In partial birth abortion, the child is delivered to within two inches of being free of the birth canal. In the “Gosnell” he delivered the child completely.

But from that point on, little difference between the procedures existed.

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Hmmm victim?

MeatHeadinCA on January 23, 2011 at 12:06 PM

CNN’s Martin Savidge introduces the segment rather oddly, saying that Gosnell is accused of “destroying viable fetuses.”

That’s CNN for ya.
*facepalm*

itsnotaboutme on January 23, 2011 at 12:07 PM

the babies have to remain fetuses or the whole house of cards goes under.

rob verdi on January 23, 2011 at 12:08 PM

The penalty for first degree murder in PA is capital punishment or life without parole. He’ll get one or the other. The DA is considering the death penalty, but has not made a decision yet.

Wethal on January 23, 2011 at 12:08 PM

Gosh, I’m really sorry you were injured while having your baby killed.

Ronnie on January 23, 2011 at 12:10 PM

The left twist this story and will use this case to show what will happen to the poor if abortion becomes illegal.

This narrative MUST be dominated by the right or this tragedy will never get the momentum and truth it deserves.

katy on January 23, 2011 at 12:10 PM

Oh brother.

I could not even watch the whole video.

VegasRick on January 23, 2011 at 12:11 PM

This narrative MUST be dominated by the right or this tragedy will never get the momentum and truth it deserves.

Yep. We must get the truth out that this was allowed to happen, per the grand jury report, because of PRO-ABORTION politics. This is not an anomaly. This happens in clinics across the country. This is the face of “choice.” Tie this to their necks. Make them own it.

Vera on January 23, 2011 at 12:13 PM

The left twist this story and will use this case to show what will happen to the poor if abortion becomes illegal.

This narrative MUST be dominated by the right or this tragedy will never get the momentum and truth it deserves.

katy on January 23, 2011 at 12:10 PM

Already it’s becoming, “He’s a bad guy because he hurt his clients” instead of realizing the evils of what this guy did.

MeatHeadinCA on January 23, 2011 at 12:13 PM

Yet we are hearing only crickets from FOX…

lovingmyUSA on January 23, 2011 at 12:15 PM

CNN’s Martin Savidge introduces the segment rather oddly, saying that Gosnell is accused of “destroying viable fetuses.”

That’s CNN for ya.
*facepalm*

itsnotaboutme on January 23, 2011 at 12:07 PM

Maybe if they were renamed to: Amniotic Sea Kittens then the LEFT would SCREAM about it.

Alas, they are only HUMAN fetuses.

Geochelone on January 23, 2011 at 12:17 PM

As long as it takes to execute someone the State might as well save the money involved in pursuing the death penalty.

I’m not saying he doesn’t deserve it if found guilty. Death penalty cases cost a LOT more to prosecute and Gosnell is pretty old.

GnuBreed on January 23, 2011 at 12:17 PM

I saw this post on a left wing website it wasn’t a isolated feeling

This wasn’t his only job, delivering late term abortions. Also, why is it that he made it this far without any police intervention? It seems like he was delivering real care, but had terrible sterilization habits. As for the remains, that’s really weird and gross. All of these women consented to the procedures. If he has any medical record keeping at all, these women should also be charged.

Also, the article is a little biased in its reporting, how often do you get such scandal to report, when it’s talking about how he has collected remains for 30 years. While this is true, he also has probably performed thousands of abortions both late and early. If he was charging women $400 for a procedure and made more than 1.8million in a year, that’s a lot of avoided pregnancies.

tomas on January 23, 2011 at 12:17 PM

This narrative MUST be dominated by the right or this tragedy will never get the momentum and truth it deserves.

katy on January 23, 2011 at 12:10 PM

The left controls the media so they will control the narrative on this and it will drop off of the earth.

darwin-t on January 23, 2011 at 12:17 PM

Gosh, I’m really sorry you were injured while having your baby killed.

Ronnie on January 23, 2011 at 12:10 PM
It is tough summons up sympathy for someone who was a co-conspirator in the murder of their own child.

Kjeil on January 23, 2011 at 12:17 PM

What does that say about a culture that has become so ingrained with the idea that infanticide is a legitimate component of womens reproductive health? Woe to those who can defend this demonic practice.

fourdeucer on January 23, 2011 at 12:18 PM

For politician after politician to look the other way when something this evil is being enacted shows a depravity from the leadership of Pennsylvania for decades. Lies and distortions on why they never paid any attention to these horrendous crimes should label each politician immediately unfit to serve in public office. They, by their own admission of dereliction of duty, should be charged as a accessory.

volsense on January 23, 2011 at 12:19 PM

Defense lawyer William J. Brennan, who represented Gosnell during the investigation, said Gosnell “feels he has provided a general care medical facility in a fairly impoverished area for four decades.”

I get it! He’s a heroic advocate of the poor.

“I wish him well, but I am not taking this case,” Brennan said. “The doctor and I have had our run.”

Why wish him well? What a creepy thing to say.

Buy Danish on January 23, 2011 at 12:20 PM

I suppose someone will call me racist but IMO people didn’t investigate this guy because he was taking advantage of the poor, minority community. I doubt he would have gotten away with this if his clients had been nice little middle class girls from the suburbs.

katiejane on January 23, 2011 at 12:20 PM

This narrative MUST be dominated by the right or this tragedy will never get the momentum and truth it deserves.

katy on January 23, 2011 at 12:10 PM

The left controls the media so they will control the narrative on this and it will drop off of the earth.

darwin-t on January 23, 2011 at 12:17 PM

That’s why it is imperative for us in the blogosphere to stay on it.

In the name of Human Rights (of the unborn) the Blog Pulitzer Prize goes to ED MORRISSEY for top notch reporting on this savagery.

Geochelone on January 23, 2011 at 12:20 PM

Vera on January 23, 2011 at 12:13 PM

MeatHeadinCA on January 23, 2011 at 12:13 PM

Until we demand that an unborn baby is a human being and deserving of rights…it will always be about the woman. And It’s interesting how, at times they refer to women who have had abortions as the mother. A mother of what…? A glob of cells?

So everyone with a tumor inside them is a mother?

katy on January 23, 2011 at 12:21 PM

Please excuse the cut & paste, but I posted this for Vera on the other thread, which has pretty much gone silent.

Vera, thank you (and tigerlily) for carrying my weight all these years when I never did anything more than voice my own pro-life beliefs in comments online and to friends.

I have attended nearly every Tea-Party rally in NJ and DC, yet I have never attended a single March for Life in Washington, I am ashamed to say.

That will change–at tomorrow’s march–thanks to you and tigerlily. And I have already contacted two pro-life organizations in my area so that I can do more.

IrishEi on January 23, 2011 at 12:16 PM

IrishEi on January 23, 2011 at 12:21 PM

darwin-t on January 23, 2011 at 12:17 PM

Have to beg to differ with you on this. They didn’t control the message on NOV 2nd.

It’s a new day.

katy on January 23, 2011 at 12:23 PM

katy on January 23, 2011 at 12:10 PM

See the post in Headlines, above. The lefty memes are coming out:

1) it was a shame the poor women didn’t have nice clean clinics for third trimester abortions like rich women had.

2) some of the poor women wanted to go to Planned Parenthood, but were scared off by the pro-life protestors, and so had to go to this filthy clinic. (I don’t think PP in Philly does third trimesters, though. Gosnell may have been the only one in the city doing them, which is why the white women from the burbs came in to him – to the cleaner rooms.)

Wethal on January 23, 2011 at 12:23 PM

Already it’s becoming, “He’s a bad guy because he hurt his clients” instead of realizing the evils of what this guy did.

MeatHeadinCA on January 23, 2011 at 12:13 PM

It’s worse than that. The new narrative is that it’s all the fault of stupid, Bible-toting, Pro-Lifers. From an AP report today:

She said she first went to Planned Parenthood in downtown Philadelphia but was frightened away by protesters.

“The picketers out there, they just scared me half to death,” Johnson, now 30, recalled this week.

Someone sent her to Gosnell’s West Philadelphia clinic, at the Women’s Medical Society, saying anti-abortion protesters wouldn’t be a problem there.

IrishEi on January 23, 2011 at 12:26 PM

This whole story is sickening. That our constitution, according to SCOTUS, is based on magic is sickening as well. This absolute right appeared by magical means and is about magically becoming a human being after passing from inside the mother to outside the mother alive. How sick.
Isn’t one of the big excuses for abortion based on the quality of life a poor unwanted child would likely have if born? Well, life in prison is a pretty sorry quality of life. Abort that SOB Gosnell.

cartooner on January 23, 2011 at 12:26 PM

IrishEi on January 23, 2011 at 12:21 PM

Awesome! There are so many places to help get involved in the pro-life movement. Everything from spending an hour or two a week at a Crisis Pregnancy Center to writing politicians to standing outside abortion clinics as a last line of defense.

Vera on January 23, 2011 at 12:26 PM

Wethal on January 23, 2011 at 12:23 PM

They will always try to shape the conversation but flyover America isn’t buying it.

We are awake.

katy on January 23, 2011 at 12:27 PM

“Why are we so outraged now?”
Exactly the question. It has been since early in the week.
Second question for today. She only got 3000? No wonder this guy made millions. The abortion indusrty is a gravy train. One of many maintained by the left. Sick.

ORconservative on January 23, 2011 at 12:27 PM

Gosnell is accused of “destroying viable fetuses.”

Or “destroying undeniable innocence”.

Electrongod on January 23, 2011 at 12:28 PM

As much as its hard to garner sympathy for this woman and as much as its easy to take issue with the decision she made to have an abortion, this isn’t about her – its about the monster Gosnell.

I suppose one could say this woman is paying for the decision she made. Gosnell must now be made to pay for his crimes.

catmman on January 23, 2011 at 12:30 PM

Hard for me to see her as a victim. More of an accomplice to murder.

She went in for a late term abortion, and wants me to feel sorry for her? How could she even show her face?

portlandon on January 23, 2011 at 12:31 PM

There are so many places to help get involved in the pro-life movement. Everything from spending an hour or two a week at a Crisis Pregnancy Center to writing politicians to standing outside abortion clinics as a last line of defense.

Vera on January 23, 2011 at 12:26 PM

Well said.
Obtaining knowledge is important, too. For example, how many pro-lifers donate to Susan B Komen Breast Cancer, not knowing that they turn around & give big bucks to Planned Parenthood?

itsnotaboutme on January 23, 2011 at 12:31 PM

The Island of Doctor Moreau by H.G. Wells

When the novel was written in 1896, European society was absorbed with concerns about degeneration, and Britain’s scientific community was engulfed by debates on animal vivisection. Interest groups were even formed to tackle the issue: the British Union for the Abolition of Vivisection was formed two years after the publication of the novel.

Hate to use such a graphic comparison but the only was to wake up the LEFT is to contrast this incident with their outrage over animal rights.

Its the only way for them to feel any empathy for the unborn is to compare the unborn to a defenseless animal; as sick as that sounds, it seems to work in my experience.

Geochelone on January 23, 2011 at 12:33 PM

Maybe if they were renamed to: Amniotic Sea Kittens then the LEFT would SCREAM about it.

Alas, they are only HUMAN fetuses.

Geochelone

In California, you get 3 years in jail for doing stuff like this!

Oh, to be specific – remove an egg from an eagle’s nest gets you that hard time.

honsy on January 23, 2011 at 12:33 PM

IrishEi on January 23, 2011 at 12:26 PM

I saw that also. What kind of mindset has been established that what a few strangers might say to you trumps self preservation?

Cindy Munford on January 23, 2011 at 12:34 PM

that’s a lot of avoided pregnancies.

tomas on January 23, 2011 at 12:17 PM

You found some sick minds. It’s a little late to be calling it an avoided pregnancy. It’s more like avoided diapers.

pedestrian on January 23, 2011 at 12:36 PM

Yep. We must get the truth out that this was allowed to happen, per the grand jury report, because of PRO-ABORTION politics. This is not an anomaly. This happens in clinics across the country. This is the face of “choice.” Tie this to their necks. Make them own it.

Vera on January 23, 2011 at 12:13 PM

I wish there were a way to uncouple the pro-abortion ideology from the false premise of reproductive health for women. The politicians find cover for their pro-abortion stance by cowardly injecting the notion that somehow reproductive rights equate to abortion on demand.

fourdeucer on January 23, 2011 at 12:37 PM

I doubt he would have gotten away with this if his clients had been nice little middle class girls from the suburbs.

katiejane on January 23, 2011 at 12:20 PM

Reports are that when the odd white customer did show up, Gosnell would keep them in a much cleaner waiting and working area. He said that was “the way of things” or something to that effect.

BierManVA on January 23, 2011 at 12:37 PM

Ronnie 12:10pm
Kjeil 12:17pm
My feeling on these murders for the last 80 years.

dragondrop on January 23, 2011 at 12:40 PM

Ransome says that the death penalty is too easy for him and wants him to get life in prison instead…

“Revenge is a dish best served cold.” – 18th century Sicilian Proverb

ReagansRight on January 23, 2011 at 12:41 PM

So, none of these women knew how far along their pregnancies were when they went in?

Apparently this is the tack the liberal media will be taking: Ignoring the murdered babies as a technicality, and trying to paint this as malpractice toward the “poor innocent victims” who waited eight months and thought they were just getting a cyst removed.

logis on January 23, 2011 at 12:41 PM

CNN’s Martin Savidge introduces the segment rather oddly, saying that Gosnell is accused of “destroying viable fetuses.”

It’s not odd at all — he’s a water boy for the temporizing left-wing damage-control narrative. If they must report the story at all (they’d prefer not to), they will scumble it.

rrpjr on January 23, 2011 at 12:42 PM

Hard for me to see her as a victim. More of an accomplice to murder.

She went in for a late term abortion, and wants me to feel sorry for her? How could she even show her face?

portlandon on January 23, 2011 at 12:31 PM

The media wants to paint this as the fault of one man…and one man only.
They will never make the connection that the actions of this one man was in part, the ultimate conclusion to the the Pro-Choice movement.
She had a choice, he provided the service. It will not be framed in this way.

Electrongod on January 23, 2011 at 12:43 PM

Gosh, I’m really sorry you were injured while having your baby killed.

Ronnie on January 23, 2011 at 12:10 PM
It is tough summons up sympathy for someone who was a co-conspirator in the murder of their own child.

Kjeil on January 23, 2011 at 12:17 PM

I do feel sorry for her. These are impoverished, uneducated, uninformed girls and women that he took advantage of. It was said that many of them didn’t even know how far along they were, they would be over 24 weeks but thought it was less. They were clearly ignorant of how their own bodies worked. How many stories have we heard about girls who didn’t know they were pregnant until they delivered in a bathroom stall?

Even in the upper middle class neighborhood where I live, my sons and daughter have friends that are woefully ignorant of the human body. One girl thought she could get pregnant from kissing, others still don’t think they can get pregnant the first time. In my opinion, both parents and schools are failing kids.

In this girl’s case, I’m sure her mother was a teen parent and probably her mother before her. The ignorance is generational. She most assuredly did not get the constant counseling I give my teens on all subjects.

This is where pregnancy centers are so successful. They educate their patients and give them all of the support they need to either keep their baby or give it up for adoption. Planned Parenthood and other abortion clinics do everything they can to prevent their patients from becoming informed.

As for the posters, where is your human compassion? Are you supporting the pregnancy centers and the education of young women so that they are informed enough not to get pregnant in the first place? I hope you don’t claim to be Christian. I am not but I can feel empathy for those who don’t have the advantages that I and my children have.

Common Sense on January 23, 2011 at 12:45 PM

Obtaining knowledge is important, too. For example, how many pro-lifers donate to Susan B Komen Breast Cancer, not knowing that they turn around & give big bucks to Planned Parenthood?

itsnotaboutme on January 23, 2011 at 12:31 PM

Wow, this I did not know. Any linkees for this statement?

sicoit on January 23, 2011 at 12:48 PM

I wish there were a way to uncouple the pro-abortion ideology from the false premise of reproductive health for women.

We have to ask the right questions. Ask exactly how it helps a woman to deliver a full term baby in a non-ambulatory clinic vs. a safe hospital room. Ask how killing a viable infant helps to save the life of a woman when doctors never hesitate to perform a c-section, even if the baby will be born pre-term. Ask how killing the disabled somehow preserves bodily domain.

Vera on January 23, 2011 at 12:49 PM

That was hard to watch. I couldn’t help but feel bad for the woman. She’s obviously uncomfortable, but like Ronnie says, she is uncomfortable because she paid a man to kill her baby.

Part of the reason that Abortion is legal is the media’s fetish about refusing to report on horrible stories in order to shield american citizens from evil. They do it with serial killers too. They use clinical or police terminology because the real truth is sickening to the average person. It all ammounts to lying by omission. It’s natural human behavior to have compassion, and in stories like this compassion results in ignorance because the truth actually hurts. The terms that get invented to shield our best and bravest (doctors, police and military)from the horror of what they deal with every day actually promote ignorance in the general populace. I think that looks like lefty spin because it does help their side but I don’t really think it is the anchor’s intention to provide cover for the abortion industry. Maybey I’m just an gullible fool.

/my two cents

Mord on January 23, 2011 at 12:50 PM

Sorry LaToya. You took out a hit on your baby and paid the hitman $400. When you go looking for murder on the cheap, bad things can happen. No payday for you.

FYI folks, poor people understand morals as well as rich people do, often better. They’re poor, not retarded.

Immolate on January 23, 2011 at 12:50 PM

Another lefty meme, of course, is that thereneedstobemoregovernmentregulation.

Why didn’t the people who worked there blow the whistle? Or one of the victims?

johnboy on January 23, 2011 at 12:50 PM

Any linkees for this statement?

http://www.lifenews.com/2010/05/24/nat-6360/

Vera on January 23, 2011 at 12:50 PM

feels he has provided a general care medical facility in a fairly impoverished area for four decades.

What does this have to do with anything? “General care” involves snotty noses, jock itch and “hey doc, wouldya look at this?” type care. Not the wanton murder and maiming of babies and the mothers that come there. This is the tragedy of abortion—that is, you build the system, and it will be used. This man got rich killing people and maiming women in squalid conditions that even would be considered “squalid” if they existed in Zimbabwe or Sudan.

Horrific. From the top down to Gosnell. Every official that looked the other way, failed to investigate, failed to report, failed to close, failed to question, and failed to act. What an uncourageous lot of people.

I am almost shocked beyond words.

ted c on January 23, 2011 at 12:51 PM

I understand Ed Rendell is just “flabbergasted”…

d1carter on January 23, 2011 at 12:54 PM

Defense lawyer William J. Brennan, who represented Gosnell during the investigation, said Gosnell “feels he has provided a general care medical facility in a fairly impoverished area for four decades.”

Wait, -so he was setting broken bones and stitching up cuts as well?

I don’t think so.

slickwillie2001 on January 23, 2011 at 12:55 PM

Maybe if they were renamed to: Amniotic Sea Kittens then the LEFT would SCREAM about it.

Alas, they are only HUMAN fetuses.

Geochelone

In California, you get 3 years in jail for doing stuff like this!

Oh, to be specific – remove an egg from an eagle’s nest gets you that hard time.

honsy on January 23, 2011 at 12:33 PM

Trust me, I know. I used to be involved in R&D which required the use of animal models (to save Human Lives). The Animal Rights people were all over it to shut us down. We kept meticulous records, enforced exacting procedures, with conditions of surgical room sterility. A doctors office is a dump compared to our facilities. But it was never food enough for the radicals on the LEFT.

Geochelone on January 23, 2011 at 12:56 PM

no surprise the victims are black…Sanger would be very pleased…

“We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the N egro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the N egro population. and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.”
Margaret Sanger’s December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble, 255 Adams Street, Milton, Massachusetts. Original source: Sophia Smith Collection, Smith College, North Hampton, Massachusetts. Also described in Linda Gordon’s Woman’s Body, Woman’s Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America. New York: Grossman Publishers, 1976.

right4life on January 23, 2011 at 12:56 PM

Surely there must be a way to work the “if Obamacare is repealed we’ll see more of these horror stories” meme into the narrative. Alan Colmes, are you there?

a capella on January 23, 2011 at 12:57 PM

Wait, -so he was setting broken bones and stitching up cuts as well?

I don’t think so.

Well more like writing lots of prescriptions for heavy duty pain meds. You know, tomato tamatah.

Vera on January 23, 2011 at 12:58 PM

the only way to protect these children is to do as geo says or call them delta smelt

ted c on January 23, 2011 at 12:59 PM

Anyone who hasn’t already read the Grand Jury Report really, really should. It will blow you away.

IrishEi on January 23, 2011 at 1:00 PM

http://www.lifenews.com/2010/05/24/nat-6360/

Vera on January 23, 2011 at 12:50 PM

Thank you for that. As they say, knowledge IS power. I have bookmarked that post for future use and to send to my email friends. Man, this is too much. God help us.

sicoit on January 23, 2011 at 1:00 PM

American Thinker pointing out that a turkey being slaughtered in the background of a Governor Palin news spot garnered much greater outrage with the lefties than this ghastly murder story: Outrage For a Slaughtered Turkey But None for Slaughtered Children?

slickwillie2001 on January 23, 2011 at 1:01 PM

They have to shroud the truth in euphemisms, because one little beam of light getting through and their entire worldview falls apart.

paul1149 on January 23, 2011 at 1:01 PM

sicoit on January 23, 2011 at 1:00 PM

No problem. Lifenews is a great resource for pro-life news in general.

Vera on January 23, 2011 at 1:02 PM

that grand jury report is ‘illuminating’….

ted c on January 23, 2011 at 1:06 PM

ted c on January 23, 2011 at 12:51 PM

Its so sickening that it almost incapacitates you.

I have a story to relay. I was involved in a seminar for post-docs in Bioscience. They brought in experts on stem cells, Genomics, Gene expression and all kinds of cutting edge stuff.

During the seminar I discovered that no less than three participants in the audience (females) had taken the trouble to harvest their own eggs and freeze them in the hope that they could SELL them on the open market to Research Labs in this country and other parts of the world…That’s why they attended, to learn about how to market their genomic property.

I almost puked right there on the spot.

Geochelone on January 23, 2011 at 1:06 PM

Just as Margaret Sanger envisioned.

Tommy_G on January 23, 2011 at 1:11 PM

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/pro-life-song-in-prayer/4d5fc9087e052f21552a4d5fc9087e052f21552a-423975977802?q=this+is+my+body+pro-life+video&FORM=VIRE4
Six minutes of refreshing, encouraging pro-life messaging for anyone inclined.

fourdeucer on January 23, 2011 at 1:13 PM

The Animal Rights people were all over it to shut us down. We kept meticulous records, enforced exacting procedures, with conditions of surgical room sterility. A doctors office is a dump compared to our facilities. But it was never food enough for the radicals on the LEFT.

Geochelone on January 23, 2011 at 12:56 PM

because the animal rights wackos want people to die, not animals. thats the bottom line for these EUGENICS luvin liberals…they want to kill people, especially people of color…its the dirty secret of the PROGESSIVE MOVEMENT..

Hillary is in ‘awe’ of Sanger…that racist eugenicist…

admire Margaret Sanger enormously, her courage, her tenacity, her vision… when I think about what she did all those years ago in Brooklyn, taking on archetypes, taking on attitudes and accusations flowing from all directions, I am really in awe of her.

hillary clinton when she won the ‘margaret sanger award’ from planned parenthood..

http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=32917

“Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race.”
Margaret Sanger. Woman, Morality, and Birth Control. New York: New York Publishing Company, 1922. Page 12.

“Eugenics is … the most adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political and social problems.
Margaret Sanger. “The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda.” Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5.

“The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.”
Margaret Sanger (editor). The Woman Rebel, Volume I, Number 1. Reprinted in Woman and the New Race. New York: Brentanos Publishers, 1922.

right4life on January 23, 2011 at 1:13 PM

What does this have to do with anything? “General care” involves snotty noses, jock itch and “hey doc, wouldya look at this?” type care. Not the wanton murder and maiming of babies and the mothers that come there.

ted c on January 23, 2011 at 12:51 PM

This is also going to be part of the lefty meme – defense:

Gosnell was a minority doctor who went back to the old neighborhood to serve an underserved population no white doctor would serve. Over the years, he “lost his way” or “lost his moral compass” or “he was just trying to help desparate women” whatever lame excuse you can fill in.

Watch for it.

Wethal on January 23, 2011 at 1:16 PM

Gosnell needs to be put down like the dog he is. He is beyond a monster.

OmahaConservative on January 23, 2011 at 1:17 PM

FYI folks, poor people understand morals as well as rich people do, often better. They’re poor, not retarded.

Immolate on January 23, 2011 at 12:50 PM

upvote

walnut on January 23, 2011 at 1:18 PM

Yes, this is awful and tragic.

But where is the coverage of the Pakistani men in Britain raping young Girls? It’s a huge story right now in the UK. And the US media is entirely ignoring it. Too politically incorrect; cause, well, ya know, it’s Muslim men raping White girls, and all. And we can’t talk about that.

Even the conservative media and blogs here in the U.S. outside of Jawa and Atlas, and LibertarianRepublican, are ignoring the story. Is the conservative movement being infiltrated by Islamic-sympathizers now?

ericdondero on January 23, 2011 at 1:20 PM

Why didn’t the people who worked there blow the whistle? Or one of the victims?

johnboy on January 23, 2011 at 12:50 PM

Both happened. The various Penn. authorities refused to take action against the serial killer…Even after one of the women died…

Gohawgs on January 23, 2011 at 1:21 PM

Why is anybody shocked at this?
This is what’s at the end of the trail for all of us. This is where Fascism ALWAYS goes.
Dr Mengele or Dr Gosnell, it doesn’t make a bit of difference. The same depraved indifference is what we’re all going to get at the end of Obama’s healthcare rainbow. If we’re lucky, the lobby will smell cleaner but that will be the only real difference.

Lew on January 23, 2011 at 1:22 PM

“The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.”
Margaret Sanger (editor). The Woman Rebel, Volume I, Number 1. Reprinted in Woman and the New Race. New York: Brentanos Publishers, 1922.

right4life on January 23, 2011 at 1:13 PM

One of the most difficult obstacles the Pro-Life movement encounters is ignorance. Most people have never heard of Margaret Sanger and even if they recognize the name, it is only as regards the award…kinda like the “Heisman Trophy.”

Just a couple of weeks ago, a prospective juror answered the Voir Dire question, “Name someone, not a religious figure, and not related to you, whom you admire,” with a vigorous “Margaret Sanger!” My jaw dropped—she may as well have said Adolph Hitler—yet not a single person in the courtroom so much as blinked, and the judge went on to the next question.

IrishEi on January 23, 2011 at 1:23 PM

There’s never a reason for a late term abortion. Never. Don’t forget that.

Any OB/GYN will deliver a baby pre-term if the mother’s life is in danger, even if it means that the baby probably won’t survive.

Vera on January 23, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Boulder Colorado has a prominent abortionist Warren Hern who specializes in “terminating” near term babies. To avoid controversy like Gosnell, I think he’s pretty careful to crush their skulls and suck their brains out BEFORE he pulls them through the birth canal.

bannedbyhuffpo on January 23, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Gosnell told the magistrate he’s looking to retain another lawyer, and Brennan confirmed he’s not representing Gosnell anymore.
“I wish him well, but I am not taking this case,” Brennan said. “The doctor and I have had our run.”

Interesting. Gosnell may well have decided to retain another lawyer for whatever reason. But on the flipside, a lawyer cannot represent a client of he know that client is going to lie under oath. We’ll never know, since the attorney-client privilege bars the lawyer from disclosing that fact. Certainly possible based on the lies told to date by Gosnell.

Jim M. on January 23, 2011 at 1:25 PM

Vera, thank you (and tigerlily) for carrying my weight all these years when I never did anything more than voice my own pro-life beliefs in comments online and to friends.

I have attended nearly every Tea-Party rally in NJ and DC, yet I have never attended a single March for Life in Washington, I am ashamed to say.

That will change–at tomorrow’s march–thanks to you and tigerlily. And I have already contacted two pro-life organizations in my area so that I can do more.

IrishEi on January 23, 2011 at 12:21 PM

Your words humble me, IrishEi. Please don’t thank me, there is so much more that I could have done and should do. All of us together can end this madness, if we awaken to the horror admist us and drive it from our once great and beautiful nation, so that our nation will be great and beautiful again. A nation where the 50 million unborn who have died so brutally will be mourned and honored, where their parents will be offered forgiveness and healing, and where the jackal politicians and practitioners of abortion will be driven far from our sight and our shores.

tigerlily on January 23, 2011 at 1:31 PM

Jim M. on January 23, 2011 at 1:25 PM

No competent defense lawyer would let Gosnell take the stand. The DA’s office here has some very good prosecutors, and the homicide division has some of the best. They would shred Gosnell like a veg-o-matic on cross.

Wethal on January 23, 2011 at 1:34 PM

Dear Ed,

Thank you for the incredible coverage you are giving this horrific injustice. You are pulling the mask off of the entire abortion lie. You are setting many hearts on fire here. God bless.

tigerlily on January 23, 2011 at 1:34 PM

Jim M. on January 23, 2011 at 1:25 PM

Since this thing broke, I’ve wondered why Gosnell didn’t cash in his chips and abscond while the grand jury was deliberating. It took eight months. Surely, he knew what was coming.

a capella on January 23, 2011 at 1:37 PM

Gosnell needs to be put down like the dog he is. He is beyond a monster.

OmahaConservative on January 23, 2011 at 1:17 PM

Too bad Michael Vick didn’t run across Gosnell a few years ago.

pugwriter on January 23, 2011 at 1:39 PM

Thank you for the incredible coverage you are giving this horrific injustice.

This!

Vera on January 23, 2011 at 1:39 PM

The reason I’ve seen stated for nothing happening to this guy for so long was that they didn’t want to “limit access to abortion” by having a bunch of standards for an abortion clinic to adhere to. Now we know that many women were harmed by this butcher, in the process of having their baby destroyed. What a contradiction. We are told that women were injured and/or died in back alley abortions, before abortion was legalized. That’s why we must keep them legal. Now, women are being injured or killed by legal abortions, but if you you are against abortion, you “hate women.”

Who really cares about women? The people who want to help them give birth to their babies, whatever the outcome of that might be, or the ones who send them to butchers like this “doctor,” and fight aganst standards for their facilities?

JannyMae on January 23, 2011 at 1:40 PM

There’s never a reason for a late term abortion. Never. Don’t forget that.

Any OB/GYN will deliver a baby pre-term if the mother’s life is in danger, even if it means that the baby probably won’t survive.

Vera on January 23, 2011 at 1:24 PM

The “to save the life of the mother” argument never made sense to me. That’s what cesearians (sp?) are for.

pugwriter on January 23, 2011 at 1:42 PM

Obama’s statement on Roe v Wade anniversary: (h/t kingjester and fourdeucer)

Today marks the 38th anniversary of Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court decision that protects women’s health and reproductive freedom, and affirms a fundamental principle: that government should not intrude on private family matters.

I am committed to protecting this constitutional right. I also remain committed to policies, initiatives, and programs that help prevent unintended pregnancies, support pregnant women and mothers, encourage healthy relationships, and promote adoption.

And on this anniversary, I hope that we will recommit ourselves more broadly to ensuring that our daughters have the same rights, the same freedoms, and the same opportunities as our sons to fulfill their dreams.

Compared with Geo. W. Bush’s statement in 2001 (h/t Vera)

Today, you are gathered to remind our country that one of those ideals is the infinite value of every life. I deeply appreciate your message and your work. You see the weak and the defenseless, and you try to help them. You see the hardship of many young mothers and their unborn children, and you care for them both. In so many ways, you make our society more compassionate and welcoming. We share a great goal: to work toward a day when every child is welcomed in life and protected in law. We know this will not come easily, or all at once. But the goal leads us onward to build a culture of life affirming that every person, at every stage and season of life, is created equal in God’s image. The promises of our Declaration of Independence are not just for the strong, the independent, or the healthy. They are for everyone– including unborn children. We are a society with enough compassion and wealth and love to care for both mothers and their children, to seek the promise and potential in every human life. I believe that we are making progress toward that goal. I trust in the good hearts of Americans. I trust in the unfolding promise of our country– an expanding circle of inclusion and protection. And I trust in the civility and good sense of our citizens– a willingness to engage our differences in a spirit of tolerence and good will. All of you marching today have never tired in a good cause. Thank you all for your conviction, your idealism, and your courage. May God bless you all.”

God help us.

tigerlily on January 23, 2011 at 1:43 PM

and here is something else we can tie to the democrats necks …..abortion affects the black community far more than any other and if you look at Margret Sanger the founder of Planned Parenthood that is just as she intended ..Google her and check out what she wrote and she was and is a person held in very high esteem by the liberals

Aggie95 on January 23, 2011 at 1:44 PM

CNN’s Martin Savidge introduces the segment rather oddly, saying that Gosnell is accused of “destroying viable fetuses.” Certainly Gosnell faces charges of performing illegal third-trimester abortions, but he faces murder charges for killing babies, not “viable fetuses.”

The spin is unbelievable, it’s called killing live babies, not fetuses. How dumb do they think we are. They can parse this 6 ways to Sunday but it is what it is, and they own it.

wi farmgirl on January 23, 2011 at 1:46 PM

In partial birth abortion, the child is delivered to within two inches of being free of the birth canal. In the “Gosnell” he delivered the child completely.

But from that point on, little difference between the procedures existed.

It’s a line and I’m quite comfortable with it.

thuja on January 23, 2011 at 1:47 PM

tigerlily on January 23, 2011 at 1:43 PM

Ahh, yes. The freedom to kill your baby while it’s still in the womb…or even if it’s already outside the womb…is an essential one.

The freedom to decide whether you buy health insurance? Not so much.

JannyMae on January 23, 2011 at 1:47 PM

The “to save the life of the mother” argument never made sense to me

That’s because it’s complete and total BS.

There are a few very specific circumstances in which an abortion must be performed to save the life of the mother: ectopic pregnancy and certain auto-immune or heart diseases. These abortions are performed as soon as possible in the pregnancy, and would never happen after viability.

If the mother’s health starts to deteriorate after the baby is viable, the doctors simply deliver the baby and hope for the best. There’s absolutely no reason the child has to die to save the mother’s life.

Vera on January 23, 2011 at 1:48 PM

It’s a line and I’m quite comfortable with it.

thuja on January 23, 2011 at 1:47 PM

You find the murder of a full-term, viable infant acceptable, as long as it is still partially inside the womb?

JannyMae on January 23, 2011 at 1:49 PM

Today’s readings of Is 8:23-9:3 and Matthew 4:12-23 give hope today that light will shine forth in the darkness of hearts that support Gosnell and his ilk.

The darkness and gloom that had settled over the land penetrates right into the heart and soul and renders the continuation of human life impossible. But this darkness and distress were not Isaiah’s last words. The prophet proclaims a message of hope and consolation as darkness and gloom give way to light and joy. On the inhabitants of a country in the shadow dark as death, light has blazed forth!
See http://www.zenit.org/article-31499?l=english for entire meditation

txmomof6 on January 23, 2011 at 1:50 PM

Anyone who hasn’t already read the Grand Jury Report really, really should. It will blow you away.

IrishEi on January 23, 2011 at 1:00 PM

Already been there. It had me up most of the night with nightmares, and baby screams inside my head…

OmahaConservative on January 23, 2011 at 1:50 PM

It’s a line and I’m quite comfortable with it.

thuja on January 23, 2011 at 1:47 PM

That’s absurd. On one side of the line we say that what is happening is a wonderful choice to be celebrated and protected, and perhaps, funded by taxpayers. On the other side of the line it’s the most horrific crime one human can inflict on another.

That is completely illogical. There is no ethical reason why a child must die in order to preserve the bodily integrity of a woman.

Vera on January 23, 2011 at 1:51 PM

It is tough summons up sympathy for someone who was a co-conspirator in the murder of their own child.

Kjeil on January 23, 2011 at 12:17 PM

Ditto.

this isn’t about her – its about the monster Gosnell.

catmman on January 23, 2011 at 12:30 PM

I have to disagree. It is all about these women. These horribly ignorant &/or selfish women who would kill their child rather than have to suffer whatever consequences they think are going to happen as a result of its birth.
Without women like this, there would be no Gosnells.
I pray for her soul.

http://www.lifenews.com/2010/05/24/nat-6360/

Vera on January 23, 2011 at 12:50 PM
Thank you for that. As they say, knowledge IS power. I have bookmarked that post for future use and to send to my email friends. Man, this is too much. God help us.

sicoit on January 23, 2011 at 1:00 PM

Really? Gonna have to read about this.
Absolutely sickening.

Badger40 on January 23, 2011 at 1:51 PM

Vera on January 23, 2011 at 1:48 PM

You are right. That is why the “to save the life of the mother” provision wasn’t good enough for the pro-death crowd, and the insisted on making it “the HEALTH of the mother,” which would allow a broad interpretation which would include just about any reason excuse for terminating a pregnancy, at any time.

JannyMae on January 23, 2011 at 1:52 PM

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