Jim DeMint to join boycott of CPAC by some socially conservative groups

posted at 7:09 pm on January 21, 2011 by Allahpundit

His spokesman doesn’t offer a specific reason, but it’s not hard to figure out why a guy who famously insisted that “you can’t be a fiscal conservative and not be a social conservative” might skip an event that now seems primed to test that theory.

Assuming that this makes attendance at CPAC the new RINO litmus test, what conclusion are we to draw from the fact that Ed will be there whereas I will not? Hmmmm.

“With leading conservatives organizations not participating this year, Senator DeMint will not be attending. He hopes to attend a unified CPAC next year,” DeMint spokesman Wesley Denton said in an email.

If you missed Ed’s chat with David Keene, the chairman of the American Conservative Union (which runs CPAC), about this year’s boycott, read it now. More than one justification has been offered by boycotters for staying away, but chiefly it’s a protest of the gay conservative group GOProud being included as a participating organization. What’s intriguing about this particular intraparty split is that it doesn’t fall neatly along traditional “true conservative”/RINO lines. For instance, not only is grassroots rock star Andrew Breitbart promising to throw a party for gay conservatives (“The first annual Roy Cohn CPAC Breitbart Homocon Welcoming 80′s Extravaganza”), he’s just joined GOProud’s advisory council. And plenty of big-name social cons are still planning to intend, among them Rick Santorum(!). So essentially, it looks like three things will come out of this: (1) More pointed jokes at DeMint’s expense by GOProud’s founder; (2) a campily fun theme party with DJ Breitbart at the turntable; and (3) some indirect hype for the Values Voter Summit (which, coincidentally, is organized by one of the boycotting groups, the Family Research Council) as the only conference that truly represents social conservatives. Good enough?

Update: A belated exit question. DeMint’s spokesman says he hopes for a “unified CPAC” next year. If GOProud wants to participate again and is excluded in order to please boycotting social cons, is CPAC “unified” under those circumstances?

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Nothing. That’s what.

Good Lt on January 21, 2011 at 11:51 PM

Last I checked, we live in a constitutional republic. Therefore, the state represents me. Right?

besser tot als rot on January 21, 2011 at 11:53 PM

oh yes you do…you’re dogma is the same old gay talking points…its rather obvious you haven’t thought the issues through…apparently you are incapable of that.

right4life on January 21, 2011 at 11:50 PM

And what is my “dogma,” right4life?

Teach us all.

Good Lt on January 21, 2011 at 11:53 PM

Last I checked, we live in a constitutional republic. Therefore, the state represents me. Right?

besser tot als rot on January 21, 2011 at 11:53 PM

And when the state moves in a direction you don’t approve of, it ceases to represent you?

Are there possibly others it represents as well?

Good Lt on January 21, 2011 at 11:54 PM

So now you want to compare me with communists? You will likely not meet a more strident anti-communist than me.

reading is fundamental…your whole notion that our ancestors were ‘primitive’ and we are ‘advanced’ is just beyond laughable…have you looked around..and done a body count o the last century??? hmmmm??

Our primitive ancestors turned to religion whenever they didn’t understand something. The universe is predominantly filed with things we cant understand. Fortunately, as time goes on, we understand more and more, like the Sun does not revolve around the earth, as Christianity told us for centuries and burned those that disagreed.

our ‘primitive’ ancestors knew those things…as far as burning those who disagreed..laughable atheist propoganda…let me guess you bow down at the altar of the racist theory of evolution, don’t you? you know the ‘theory’ that has no evidence.

Isaiah 40:18, ‘What likeness will ye compare to him that sitteth on the circle of the earth?

Job 26:7

He stretches out the north over empty space;

He hangs the earth on nothing.

get a clue.

right4life on January 21, 2011 at 11:56 PM

And what is my “dogma,” right4life?

Teach us all.

Good Lt on January 21, 2011 at 11:53 PM

its rather obvious…re-read your posts….or just check out the gay talking points…its not like you put any thought into your posts…

right4life on January 21, 2011 at 11:57 PM

Why do you harbor an irrational aversion to gays?

Good Lt on January 21, 2011 at 11:52 PM

why do you harbor an irrational aversion to social conservatives?

why do you hate us so?

right4life on January 21, 2011 at 11:58 PM

And when the state moves in a direction you don’t approve of, it ceases to represent you?

Good Lt on January 21, 2011 at 11:54 PM

Umm… No. That is my point.

Also, I’m not really quite sure what you are trying to accomplish by trying to debate me. I already told you that I don’t care about this issue politically. Isn’t that the position that you are trying to get us to take?

besser tot als rot on January 21, 2011 at 11:58 PM

as far as burning those who disagreed.

Are you denying this happened for thousands of years?

Isaiah 40:18, ‘What likeness will ye compare to him that sitteth on the circle of the earth?

Job 26:7

Look out, folks. Here come the citations. Now you’re in trouble, because what’s written there is the end of the argument or something…

let me guess you bow down at the altar of the racist theory of evolution, don’t you?

LOL LOL LOL

Good Lt on January 21, 2011 at 11:59 PM

What effect does the state affirming the relationship of two consenting adults other than yourself (and granting the legal and inheritance protections afforded to you and your spouse) have to do with you?

Nothing. That’s what.

Good Lt on January 21, 2011 at 11:51 PM

God you’re ignorant…

But when highly respected legal experts on civil liberties, including ones favoring same-sex marriage, raise the same possibility, their concerns cannot be dismissed as partisan debating points.

Marc D. Stern, whose many years handling religious freedom cases for the American Jewish Congress have made him an expert in the area, can hardly be identified as a conservative agitator. Yet he firmly believes that legal recognition of same-sex marriage will make clashes with religious liberty “inevitable.”

“No one seriously believes that clergy will be forced, or even asked, to perform marriages that are anathema to them,” Mr. Stern has written. But for other individuals and institutions opposed on religious grounds to same-sex marriage, its legal acceptance would have “substantial impact.”

He has in mind schools, health care centers, social service agencies, summer camps, homeless shelters, nursing homes, orphanages, retreat houses, community centers, athletic programs and private businesses or services that operate by religious standards, like kosher caterers and marriage counselors.

One example, which he did not anticipate when first undertaking his analysis, was the Boston Catholic Charities’ decision to withdraw from providing adoption services because the state license required placing children with gay married couples on the same basis as heterosexual married couples.

Chai R. Feldblum, a professor at Georgetown University Law Center and a proponent of same-sex marriage, agrees that permitting gay couples equal access to civil marriage will inevitably burden the religious liberty of those religiously opposed
.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/10/us/10beliefs.html

hell even that MEMBER OF THE VAST RIGHT CONSPIRACY THE NY TIMES…knows this…why don’t you?

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 12:00 AM

let me guess you bow down at the altar of the racist theory of evolution, don’t you?

LOL LOL LOL

Good Lt on January 21, 2011 at 11:59 PM

ok charlie…list the LOWER RACES darwin refers to…

“The more civilized so-called Caucasian races have beaten the Turkish hollow in the struggle for existence. Looking to the world at no very distant date, what an endless number of the lower races will have been eliminated by the higher civilised races throughout the world.” (Darwin, Charles R. [English naturalist and founder of the modern theory of evolution], “The Life of Charles Darwin”, [1902], Senate: London, 1995, reprint, p.64).

LOLOLOLOL

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 12:01 AM

Yup, I see it. Pretty much any perversions you are not personally offended with are ok, everything else is wrong. Way to be consistent, champ.

jamarkennedy on January 21, 2011 at 11:52 PM

Two consenting adults =/= taking advantage of a kid and having sex with her/him, which harms the child’s mind for life. There’s a large divide between the two for anyone with an objective mind.

toliver on January 22, 2011 at 12:02 AM

Look out, folks. Here come the citations. Now you’re in trouble, because what’s written there is the end of the argument or something…

the argument ended with you long ago…you don’t have the intellect to make a case obviously….

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 12:02 AM

I already told you that I don’t care about this issue politically. Isn’t that the position that you are trying to get us to take?

besser tot als rot on January 21, 2011 at 11:58 PM

Sure.

If you’re on board with diverse political alliances, then huzzah.

We can chat about the legal recognition of such relationships at another time.

Good Lt on January 22, 2011 at 12:02 AM

the argument ended with you long ago…you don’t have the intellect to make a case obviously….

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 12:02 AM

You made a case?

What was it? That you don’t like gays, and that the Bible told you not to, and that anything other that this position is a fascist Marxist (?) agenda that should be rejected by the right?

Good Lt on January 22, 2011 at 12:04 AM

If you’re on board with diverse political alliances, then huzzah.

Good Lt on January 22, 2011 at 12:02 AM

uh yeah we need more ‘diversity’ people like MOOCOWski and castle…yeah the backstabbing ‘moderates’ wonderful…

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 12:04 AM

ok charlie…list the LOWER RACES darwin refers to…

“The more civilized so-called Caucasian races have beaten the Turkish hollow in the struggle for existence. Looking to the world at no very distant date, what an endless number of the lower races will have been eliminated by the higher civilised races throughout the world.” (Darwin, Charles R. [English naturalist and founder of the modern theory of evolution], “The Life of Charles Darwin”, [1902], Senate: London, 1995, reprint, p.64).

LOLOLOLOL

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 12:01 AM

Darwin got a lot of things wrong, but much right as well.

By your logic, we can throw out all the organized Christian religions because they too have gotten quite a bit wrong -to put it mildly- over the ages.

Do you believe the Sun revolves around the earth?

toliver on January 22, 2011 at 12:05 AM

You made a case?

What was it? That you don’t like gays, and that the Bible told you not to, and that anything other that this position is a fascist Marxist (?) agenda that should be rejected by the right?

Good Lt on January 22, 2011 at 12:04 AM

you know I didn’t bring up the bible at all to make my case against the gay agenda….nor did I indicate whether I ‘liked’ gays or not…merely disagreeing with them is of course a HATE CRIME to fascists like you…

but then keep lying, its all you’re good at.

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 12:06 AM

Two consenting adults =/= taking advantage of a kid and having sex with her/him, which harms the child’s mind for life. There’s a large divide between the two for anyone with an objective mind.

toliver on January 22, 2011 at 12:02 AM

Giant difference between normal sex and perversions. At least you dropped the argument that abnormal sexual behavior is acceptable because people are supposedly slaves to their attractions. You’re learning.

jamarkennedy on January 22, 2011 at 12:07 AM

Darwin got a lot of things wrong, but much right as well.

By your logic, we can throw out all the organized Christian religions because they too have gotten quite a bit wrong -to put it mildly- over the ages.

Do you believe the Sun revolves around the earth?

toliver on January 22, 2011 at 12:05 AM

what did he get right? eugenics?

why don’t you show me in the bible where the sun revolves around the earth?

what has the bible gotten wrong? you sound like voltaire…he’s dust, the Word of God, the Bible stands…and will never be defeated. learn to love it, loser.

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 12:08 AM

Darwin got a lot of things wrong, but much right as well.

toliver on January 22, 2011 at 12:05 AM

did he get this right??

A direct line runs from Darwin, through the founder of the eugenics movement-Darwin’s cousin, Francis Galton-to the extermination camps of Nazi Europe.” (Brookes, Martin.,”Ripe old age,” Review of “Of Flies, Mice and Men,” by Francois Jacob, Harvard University Press, 1999. New Scientist, Vol. 161, No. 2171, 30 January 1999, p.41).

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 12:09 AM

LOLOLOLOL

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 12:01 AM

Um…it was published in 1874. White Europeans thought they were superior to all “races” in that time – kind of like the FFs in our country permitted slavery in the colonies because that was just the norm at the time. Darwin’s personal views have nothing to do with the theory he developed and put forth, any more that Francis Collins’ personal religious beliefs invalidate his research into the human genome.

Has nothing to do with the scientific theory of biological evolution.

Historical context and logical FAIL.

Good Lt on January 22, 2011 at 12:10 AM

let me guess you bow down at the altar of the racist theory of evolution, don’t you?

LOL LOL LOL

Good Lt on January 21, 2011 at 11:59 PM

still waiting for that list of LOWER RACES corporal….

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 12:11 AM

did he get this right??

Did the Constitution get slavery right?

I look forward to hearing this.

Good Lt on January 22, 2011 at 12:11 AM

still waiting for that list of LOWER RACES corporal….

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 12:11 AM

Should have waited for it, champ.

Good Lt on January 22, 2011 at 12:11 AM

Has nothing to do with the scientific theory of biological evolution.

Historical context and logical FAIL.

Good Lt on January 22, 2011 at 12:10 AM

again you’re pathetically stupid…

hell even Gould knew the truth..why can’t you?

“Biological arguments for racism may have been common before 1859, but they increased by orders of magnitude following the acceptance of evolutionary theory.” Stephen Jay Gould,
‘Ontogeny and Phylogeny’, Belknap-Harvard Press, pp. 27-128

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 12:12 AM

uh yeah we need more ‘diversity’ people like MOOCOWski and castle…yeah the backstabbing ‘moderates’ wonderful…

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 12:04 AM

We need more Christine O’Donnells.

Don’t we?

Good Lt on January 22, 2011 at 12:12 AM

Did the Constitution get slavery right?

I look forward to hearing this.

Good Lt on January 22, 2011 at 12:11 AM

yeah thats why they had the 3/5s provision..to eventually end slavery…try history 101…

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 12:13 AM

We need more Christine O’Donnells.

Don’t we?

Good Lt on January 22, 2011 at 12:12 AM

in a NY minute over clowns like you.

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 12:13 AM

hell even Gould knew the truth..why can’t you?

BZZZZT. Wrong.

Stephen Jay Gould supports the theory of evolution. He was a Darwinist and a supporter of the theory of evolution.

You need to pull your head out of creationist websites.

Ironic that you try to use a scientist to disprove…actual science.

Again, FAIL.

Good Lt on January 22, 2011 at 12:19 AM

BZZZZT. Wrong.

Stephen Jay Gould supports the theory of evolution. He was a Darwinist and a supporter of the theory of evolution.

You need to pull your head out of creationist websites.

Ironic that you try to use a scientist to disprove…actual science.

Again, FAIL.

Good Lt on January 2

uh gomer you do know that what you posted has NOTHING to do with the racism inherent in evolution…which GOULD RECOGNIZED…whats funny is you think you’re making a point…and all you’re doing is making a fool out of yourself!!!

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 12:23 AM

in a NY minute over clowns like you.

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 12:13 AM

Then send some of your $$$ to Christine PAC.

She needs your $$$.

Put your $$$ where your mouth is.

Good Lt on January 22, 2011 at 12:23 AM

here private….some more truth you can ignore as you continue to bow at the altar of your racist hairygod of evoluiton….LOl

“‘Social Darwinism’ is often taken to be something extraneous, an ugly concretion added to the pure Darwinian corpus after the event, tarnishing Darwin’s image. But his notebooks make plain that competition, free trade, imperialism, racial extermination, and sexual inequality were written into the equation from the start- ‘Darwinism’ was always intended to explain human society.” (Desmond, Adrian [Science historian, University College, London] & Moore, James [Science historian, The Open University, UK], “Darwin,” [1991], Penguin: London, 1992, reprint, pp.xix

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 12:28 AM

yeah thats why they had the 3/5s provision..to eventually end slavery…try history 101…

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 12:13 AM</blockquoteSo let me get this straight.

The Constitution had slavery right…and so there was slavery in the US until the Civil War ended it for good after 1865.

Hmmmmmm.

Seems I know US history, too.

The 3/5 Comp. was used by the North to deny the South political representation – and for no other reason. If they wanted to end slavery on a humanitarian basis and kill The Peculiar Institution in its entirety, they would have had the Civil War in late 1770s because they would have enshrined it in the Constitution at the convention in Philadelphia.

But they didn't. That had to wait.

uh gomer you do know that what you posted has NOTHING to do with the racism inherent in evolution

You haven’t demonstrated a connection between “racism” and Darwinian evolution.

And you tried to pretend SJ Gould was somehow supportive of creationism.

Dude, just stop. You’re in a hole.

Keep FAILing.

Good Lt on January 22, 2011 at 12:28 AM

your racist hairygod of evoluiton

LOL

Good Lt on January 22, 2011 at 12:29 AM

what did he get right? eugenics?

why don’t you show me in the bible where the sun revolves around the earth?

what has the bible gotten wrong? you sound like voltaire…he’s dust, the Word of God, the Bible stands…and will never be defeated. learn to love it, loser.

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 12:08 AM

What has the Bible gotten wrong? You’re doing schtick, no?

Oh, the church and it’s BS texts -inspired by the Holy Ghost- told us that the Sun revolved around the earth. Learn your history. Geniuses like Copernicus and Galileo were persecuted by morons like you.

toliver on January 22, 2011 at 12:32 AM

What has the Bible gotten wrong? You’re doing schtick, no?

Oh, the church and it’s BS texts -inspired by the Holy Ghost- told us that the Sun revolved around the earth. Learn your history. Geniuses like Copernicus and Galileo were persecuted by morons like you.

toliver on January 22, 2011 at 12:32 AM

Oh, and the Earth was created at the snap of a finger somehow, in seven days for some reason (with a 24-hour day as we thing of it, regardless of the fact that they didn’t exist at that time in human history), and and, um, there was giant boat that held all creatures on the earth on it and a flood or something, etc.

FACT.

And the universe was “created” by the snap of a finger as well, on a whim, just because. Light was “declared” into existence, as was life, Earth, morality, etc.

Duh.

End of argument.

Good Lt on January 22, 2011 at 12:36 AM

“The first annual Roy Cohn CPAC Breitbart Homocon Welcoming 80′s Extravaganza”

breitbart is my hero.

eh on January 22, 2011 at 12:40 AM

End of argument.

Good Lt on January 22, 2011 at 12:36 AM

Agreed. Time for me to watch a movie and hit the sack. I hope i don’t come back here tonight. I can only take so much of the follower mindset. How one can go through life w/out asking honest philosophical questions and attempting to answer them is beyond me.

toliver on January 22, 2011 at 12:43 AM

breitbart is my hero.

eh on January 22, 2011 at 12:40 AM

Me too.

Although I fear that some here might now consider him a “Marxist” or a “fascist” or an accomplice to some sinister “secret” agenda of “gays.”

Oh, well. It’s their loss.

I’m with Breitbart.

Good Lt on January 22, 2011 at 12:43 AM

CPAC says that political expediency should trump personal conviction.

By including a homosexual advocacy group as a sponsor and that is what GOProud is they force the choice between conscience and politics.

“A man cannot serve two masters.” It’s as simple as that and people have made their choices.

bluesdoc70 on January 22, 2011 at 12:47 AM

There is a lamentable problem here. We always talk of a single axis political map. So you have these “who are the REAL Conservative” issues all the time. If you consider a two axis system, statist and religionist, you find it all starts to make sense. The statists want large government. The anti-statists want small government. The religionists, if you will pardon me, look to a higher power, mysticism, for the solution. The “rationalists”, the natural opposite of the religionists, presume that mankind can solve all its own problems.

Rationalists included Randites and Communists. And Religionists include anarchists and Islamists, thus defining the four corners of the political map. “Conservative” is a trick word. In the US it can stand for either the anti-statists or the religionists depending on what it is they are trying to conserve. Yet you can have somebody who is very anti-statist and very rationalist, what do you call them other than Randite? Slide down their intensities and you get something akin to Libertarians.

IMAO I am quite happy with both the religionists and rationalists being vigorous movements as long as the state is well enough constrained neither can wander into pushing their agendas too hard.

It sounds like DeMint is willing to sacrifice being a conservator of small government as we originally had in favor of his religionist leanings. For me this seems a bad sign. For others, YMMV.

Just remember that the more of your favorite laws you get enacted the larger the government and the more it can run your life. And when it gets that large it might no longer be so friendly with your particular religionist or rationalist views. It’s difficult for a properly small government to make your life as miserable as a large government can make it.

{^_^}

herself on January 22, 2011 at 5:31 AM

herself on January 22, 2011 at 5:31 AM

Very nice.

Socmodfiscon on January 22, 2011 at 7:51 AM

I woke up this morning and I read the posts since I went to sleep. The conversation went just as I thought it would go. DeMint makes a claim that he is a Tea Party member. I like the Tea Party movement. I dislike Jim DeMint because the policy that DeMint supports, which is that gays and lesbians should not be allowed to teach in public schools. And, he has now said that he will not attend CPAC because a gay group will be attending.

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 8:14 AM

The 3/5 Comp. was used by the North to deny the South political representation – and for no other reason. If they wanted to end slavery on a humanitarian basis and kill The Peculiar Institution in its entirety, they would have had the Civil War in late 1770s because they would have enshrined it in the Constitution at the convention in Philadelphia.

again laughable stupidity…yeah right after winning the revolution against britian they should have plunged the country into a civil war…brilliant….LOL

You haven’t demonstrated a connection between “racism” and Darwinian evolution.

obviously I have…just because you are incapable of comprehending it doesnt’ matter..

And you tried to pretend SJ Gould was somehow supportive of creationism.

Dude, just stop. You’re in a hole.

Keep FAILing.

Good Lt on January 22, 2011 at 12:28 AM

uh gomer…never said any such thing…nice lie…apparently its all you can do cause you sure can’t come up with anything intelligent to say

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 8:54 AM

What has the Bible gotten wrong? You’re doing schtick, no?

Oh, the church and it’s BS texts -inspired by the Holy Ghost- told us that the Sun revolved around the earth. Learn your history. Geniuses like Copernicus and Galileo were persecuted by morons like you.

toliver on January 22, 2011 at 12:32 AM

post your proof..oh thats right you can’t. show us the verse in the bible that says the sun goes around the earth…this should be good.

speaking of morons…I guess you haven’t read the idiotic drivel you write…LOL

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 8:56 AM

Oh, and the Earth was created at the snap of a finger somehow, in seven days for some reason (with a 24-hour day as we thing of it, regardless of the fact that they didn’t exist at that time in human history), and and, um, there was giant boat that held all creatures on the earth on it and a flood or something, etc.

FACT.

well gomer, why don’t you prove your beloved theory of evolution by listing the mutations IN ORDER, that led to the eye….don’t worry I won’t hold my breath…you can’t, and no one else can either…but you believe in evolution…its called FAITH…there is nothing in the fossil record, or the lab that supports your racist atheist fairy tale…

loser.

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 8:58 AM

It sounds like DeMint is willing to sacrifice being a conservator of small government as we originally had in favor of his religionist leanings. For me this seems a bad sign. For others, YMMV.

Just remember that the more of your favorite laws you get enacted the larger the government and the more it can run your life. And when it gets that large it might no longer be so friendly with your particular religionist or rationalist views. It’s difficult for a properly small government to make your life as miserable as a large government can make it.

{^_^}

herself on January 22, 2011 at 5:31 AM

explain why social conservatism means a bigger government…when the supposed small government gay rights movement leads to things like a photographer who won’t photograph a lesbian wedding loses in court….

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 8:59 AM

Jim DeMint because the policy that DeMint supports, which is that gays and lesbians should not be allowed to teach in public schools. And, he has now said that he will not attend CPAC because a gay group will be attending.

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 8:14 AM

neither will the heritage foundation…or the media research center…you can start your own little gay rights faux conservative party…and see how well you do..just like all the fiscal con-jobs only that won in the last election…*smirk*

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 9:02 AM

human history), and and, um, there was giant boat that held all creatures on the earth on it and a flood or something, etc.

Good Lt on January 22, 2011 at 12:36 AM

oh and gomer, as far as the flood, explain to us how all these fossils came into being..since when things die, they usually decay…this should be good….

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 9:03 AM

May I start out by stating, “I’m from the Limbaugh wing of the conservative party. Having said that, I am NOT anti gay and do not feel gay people to be a threat. I think if we conservatives want to be true to ourselves we know it is none of our business who loves who. I know for some Conservatives that’s asking alot. I’m not saying you have to be bff’s, but if we all just talk and think we all be surprised just how much more we have in common with eachother. Really if being gay is wrong then God will have THAT talk, it’s not our place to judge..

mmcnamer1 on January 22, 2011 at 9:30 AM

If the “Social Conservatives” don’t go it will just be a shame. If I could go I would.

mmcnamer1 on January 22, 2011 at 9:32 AM

This sucks. Is there not a single little r Republican in the entire field? One that truly grasps the concept of liberty? How hard can it be for freak’s sake? Anyone…anyone…Bueller…Bueller?

liberty? uh yeah thats what gay marriage will stamp out for those who disagree.

right4life on January 21, 2011 at 11:06 PM

What are you even talking about and why is it up to you or Mr. DeMint to decide what is moral? It is a question of liberty. Attempting to coerce an entire conference because you disagree with the views of someone or some group there means that you’d rather snuff them out than to let your views stand on your own and let everyone decide. We citizens are not the judge, jury, and executioners for the lifestyle choices that we take issue with. If you believe in God, don’t you believe that your morality will ultimately be judged by Him? And, if so, why can’t you leave it at that?

I personally find homosexuality to be an anomaly of nature but that’s where my opinion ends. It’s not up to us to decide. Attempting to shut down debate and shut out other “elements” is simply a rejection of true liberty. Liberty; you know, freedom. If you’re worried about Sodom and Gomorrah, turn on the TV. We crossed that threshold long ago, so attempting to alienate and exclude “the gay” from everything is really an exercise in futility. It’s not an excuse to un-oppose yourself, but it does mean that your opinion is irrelevant and that we have plenty of other cultural breakdowns to consider. I bet some of the membership in GOProud are of the self-hating variety anyhow. I guess you wouldn’t be aware of that because you hear the word gay, stick your fingers in your ears, and run around like toddlers. There are plenty of homosexuals more interested in fiscal conservatism that have no desire to bend the will of the entire nation to have things another way.

If someone wants to be gay, they have the liberty to do so. If they want to be gay at CPAC they also have the liberty to do so. I saw the videos of GOProud at CPAC last year and they were wearing suits; not acting in some depraved manner while dancing around in fairy costumes. You religious zealots seriously need to step off. I’m sure a few of you are in the closet anyhow and hope that denying yourself will suppress your urges, LOL! It’s usually the case when you have such little confidence in yourself that resort to tearing others down.

Levinite on January 22, 2011 at 9:47 AM

What are you even talking about and why is it up to you or Mr. DeMint to decide what is moral?

oh please…if you don’t know that gay marriage threatens the liberty of those who disagree, then you’re either ignorant, or deceptive. see the article I posted from the NY times at the top of page 3 and get a clue.

as far as whats moral…you sure want to tell the rest of us whats moral…and if we disagree with your opinion to face the sanction of law. laughable.

It is a question of liberty. Attempting to coerce an entire conference because you disagree with the views of someone or some group there means that you’d rather snuff them out than to let your views stand on your own and let everyone decide.

uh huh a question of liberty…and how does boycotting CPAC threaten their liberty? not at all…but the view they are promoting…gay marriage, which GOPProud advocates, threatens the liberty of those who disagree.

If you believe in God, don’t you believe that your morality will ultimately be judged by Him? And, if so, why can’t you leave it at that?

uh huh then why have laws at all? eliminate the laws against murder, rape, robbery, etc…since it will be ultimately judged by Him.

do you even understand what you are posting? try thinking about these issues for a change.

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 9:57 AM

If someone wants to be gay, they have the liberty to do so. If they want to be gay at CPAC they also have the liberty to do so. I saw the videos of GOProud at CPAC last year and they were wearing suits; not acting in some depraved manner while dancing around in fairy costumes. You religious zealots seriously need to step off. I’m sure a few of you are in the closet anyhow and hope that denying yourself will suppress your urges, LOL! It’s usually the case when you have such little confidence in yourself that resort to tearing others down.

Levinite on January 22, 2011 at 9:47 AM

and if someone disagrees with the gay agenda, they won’t have that option. as far as me being gay…sounds like its wishful thinking on your part! LOL

as far as tearing others down…you should check the mirror you bigoted fascist.

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 9:59 AM

here’s what happens to the liberty of those who disagree when the gay fascists get their way…

California’s high court on Monday barred doctors from withholding medical care to gays and lesbians based on religious beliefs, ruling that state law prohibiting sexual orientation discrimination extends to the medical profession.

The ruling was unanimous, a contrast to the state Supreme Court’s 4-3 schism in May legalizing gay marriage.

Justice Joyce Kennard wrote in the ruling that two Christian fertility doctors who refused to artificially inseminate a lesbian have neither a free speech right nor a religious exemption from the state’s law, which “imposes on business establishments certain antidiscrimination obligations.”

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=4941377&page=1

in other words, religious liberty and freedom of speech the gays disagree with is ‘discrimination’ orwell would understand this all too well…

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 10:02 AM

Right4life’s mission in life is to stamp out the gay threat. He is the “New” Jerry Falwell chasing after the the Teletubbies. It is sad.

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 10:11 AM

Update: A belated exit question. DeMint’s spokesman says he hopes for a “unified CPAC” next year. If GOProud wants to participate again and is excluded in order to please boycotting social cons, is CPAC “unified” under those circumstances? – Allahpundit

No.

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 10:37 AM

Right4life’s mission in life is to stamp out the gay threat. He is the “New” Jerry Falwell chasing after the the Teletubbies. It is sad.

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 10:11 AM

Indeed.

Good Lt on January 22, 2011 at 10:41 AM

And Jim Demint casts a “Yes Please” to Obama 2012.

motionview on January 22, 2011 at 11:28 AM

Is the gay mafia recruiting today?

Inanemergencydial on January 22, 2011 at 12:33 PM

DeMint doesn’t like the gays!

Spathi on January 22, 2011 at 12:43 PM

Is the gay mafia recruiting today? – Inanemergencydial on January 22, 2011 at 12:33 PM

There is no gay mafia, just gay and lesbian people. Trying to live their lives.

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 1:16 PM

There is no gay mafia, just gay and lesbian people. Trying to live their lives.

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 1:16 PM

Cool,can we talk about that incessantly?

Inanemergencydial on January 22, 2011 at 1:20 PM

What days of the week is recruitment?

Inanemergencydial on January 22, 2011 at 1:21 PM

the first dumb move that I can recall from DeMint.

exceller on January 22, 2011 at 1:22 PM

There is no gay mafia, just gay and lesbian people. Trying to live their lives.

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 1:16 PM

lol

hawkdriver on January 22, 2011 at 1:23 PM

If someone wants to be gay, they have the liberty to do so. If they want to be gay at CPAC they also have the liberty to do so. I saw the videos of GOProud at CPAC last year and they were wearing suits; not acting in some depraved manner while dancing around in fairy costumes. You religious zealots seriously need to step off. I’m sure a few of you are in the closet anyhow and hope that denying yourself will suppress your urges, LOL! It’s usually the case when you have such little confidence in yourself that resort to tearing others down.

Levinite on January 22, 2011 at 9:47 AM

Amen

lexhamfox on January 22, 2011 at 2:05 PM

Right4life’s mission in life is to stamp out the gay threat. He is the “New” Jerry Falwell chasing after the the Teletubbies. It is sad.

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 10:11 AM

at least I’m not trying to take away the liberty of those I disagree with. whats really sad is you think you’re expanding freedom while taking it away from so many…very sad…the only question is, are you deceived, or a deceiver?

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 2:06 PM

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 10:11 AM

I’m sure you’re upset about that doctor in CA having his freedom of speech and religion taken away, aren’t ya now?? *smirk*

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 2:07 PM

There is no gay mafia, just gay and lesbian people. Trying to live their lives eliminate the right to disagree with them

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 1:16 PM

FIFY

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 2:11 PM

The GOP, and Andrew Breitbart, will betray you, lol.

Christians, you best just wake up. The tribe of Marx fox is in the henhouse, and Jesus Christ is the target.

True_King on January 22, 2011 at 2:23 PM

Yay gays!

Inanemergencydial on January 22, 2011 at 2:29 PM

Right4life………….Never misquote me. You and that doctor are welcome to your opinions.

I would suggest that all doctors that don’t want to treat gay people just put a sign on the front door saying so. Heck, just let doctors list the kind of patients that they don’t want to deal with./sarc

What you are so deranged/angry about is that you are on the wrong side of history.

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 2:33 PM

the first dumb move that I can recall from DeMint. – exceller on January 22, 2011 at 1:22 PM

No, he has made more. You have to remember that his opponent in his re-election was the famous, nobody Alvin Greene.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Greene

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 2:51 PM

The GOP, and Andrew Breitbart, will betray you, lol.

Christians, you best just wake up. The tribe of Marx fox is in the henhouse, and Jesus Christ is the target.

True_King on January 22, 2011 at 2:23 PM

They are acting like acting like chickens (running away).

lexhamfox on January 22, 2011 at 3:24 PM

What you are so deranged/angry about is that you are on the wrong side of history.

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 2:33 PM

Is there any wonder that social conservatives don’t want GOProud at CPAC? Having to listen to pretentious jerks like you is almost unbearable to anyone.

besser tot als rot on January 22, 2011 at 3:26 PM

Right4life………….Never misquote me.

or what? you’ll send your fascist thug friends after me?

You and that doctor are welcome to your opinions.

just we don’t dare speak them or act upon them.

I would suggest that all doctors that don’t want to treat gay people just put a sign on the front door saying so. Heck, just let doctors list the kind of patients that they don’t want to deal with./sarc

its called freedom, and you sure don’t like anyone except the gays to have it.

What you are so deranged/angry about is that you are on the wrong side of history.

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 2:33 PM

I would suggest you are the deranged one my uh ‘friend’. as far as the wrong side of history? LOL oh we’ve seen what happens when the gays get power, ala rome…and every other civilization…when the gays rise, the civilization falls…you are on the wrong side of history….I’ve read the back of the book…get a clue.

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 3:27 PM

Inanemergencydial on January 22, 2011 at 2:29 PM

This can’t be. They said that’s not what they were about. I mean, they just want to live their lives. (I think you must have faked that link)/

hawkdriver on January 22, 2011 at 3:52 PM

They are acting like acting like chickens (running away).

lexhamfox on January 22, 2011 at 3:24 PM

Yep, we’re called bigots if we profess and chickens if we don’t. I love those progressive double standards.

hawkdriver on January 22, 2011 at 3:54 PM

its called freedom, and you sure don’t like anyone except the gays to have it.

Doctor orders new sign on it he puts on it the following:

I don’t treat the following people
…Homosexuals
…Fornicators
…Adulterers
…The Divorced
…Drunks
…Jews
…Muslims
…etc.

I guess that any establishment should be able to choose who they will serve when they are open to the public?

Rome fell after the Christians took over. No Empire lasts forever.

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 3:58 PM

Yep, we’re called bigots if we profess and chickens if we don’t. I love those progressive double standards. – hawkdriver on January 22, 2011 at 3:54 PM

And, I am called a pervert, and worse, if I stand up and tell some people my sexuality.

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 4:04 PM

Rome fell after the Christians took over. No Empire lasts forever.

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 3:58 PM

Still batting 1000 in error.

Inanemergencydial on January 22, 2011 at 4:07 PM

Giving DeMint this thread while anticipating his potus ’12 bid?

Where’s the bash Newt’s ’12 bid thread?

maverick muse on January 22, 2011 at 4:22 PM

And, I am called a pervert, and worse, if I stand up and tell some people my sexuality.

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 4:04 PM

I have never called you or a single person on this site or any other site anything of the kind. I dare you to link anything even close. Yet you, and others who comment here have called me specifically and anyone else with an honest opinion on gay issues, mine mostly DADT, as bigots, homophobes, phobes, zealots, latents and the list goes on.

Am I now free to pull no punches because I’ve been called names? But don’t worry, I won’t stoop to the same behavior.

hawkdriver on January 22, 2011 at 4:26 PM

Still batting 1000 in error. – Inanemergencydial on January 22, 2011 at 4:07 PM

Don’t debate me over the fall of Rome, debate the historians. Have you ever heard of Constantine the Great?

http://ancienthistory.about.com/cs/romefallarticles/a/fallofrome_4.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_the_Great

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 4:31 PM

Doctor orders new sign on it he puts on it the following:

I don’t treat the following people
…Homosexuals
…Fornicators
…Adulterers
…The Divorced
…Drunks
…Jews
…Muslims
…etc.

I guess that any establishment should be able to choose who they will serve when they are open to the public?

yeah fine with me…its called FREEDOM…do you want to force the KKK to allow blacks to join? how about the NOI…do want to force them to allow whites??

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 4:35 PM

Am I now free to pull no punches because I’ve been called names? But don’t worry, I won’t stoop to the same behavior. – hawkdriver on January 22, 2011 at 4:26 PM

Oh, please, give us all a break. Now let’s all have a group hug!

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 4:37 PM

And, I am called a pervert, and worse, if I stand up and tell some people my sexuality.

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 4:04 PM

sigh..thats all the gays do….talk about their sexuality…it defines your life…grow up

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 4:39 PM

yeah fine with me…its called FREEDOM…do you want to force the KKK to allow blacks to join? how about the NOI…do want to force them to allow whites?? – right4life on January 22, 2011 at 4:35 PM

They aren’t open to the public. However, I am sure you would like to join./sarc

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 4:40 PM

They aren’t open to the public. However, I am sure you would like to join./sarc

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 4:40 PM

the NOI isn’t open to the public? laughable. you obviously wouldn’t know about them though…you’re a little too pale…

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 4:43 PM

sigh..thats all the gays do….talk about their sexuality…it defines your life…grow up – right4life on January 22, 2011 at 4:39 PM

You seem to be more upset and concerned about my sexuality than myself. Now, how about your sexuality? Lay it all out. I am sure you never have talked about it. Remember the girl you took to your first Prom? And, all those pictures at the office of your wife.

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 4:46 PM

Bullying by the gay mafia. Must not be recruitment day.

Inanemergencydial on January 22, 2011 at 4:48 PM

the NOI isn’t open to the public? laughable. you obviously wouldn’t know about them though…you’re a little too pale… – right4life on January 22, 2011 at 4:43 PM

That is what I said, the KKK is not open to the public. Are you getting a little emotional?

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 4:48 PM

You seem to be more upset and concerned about my sexuality than myself. Now, how about your sexuality? Lay it all out. I am sure you never have talked about it. Remember the girl you took to your first Prom? And, all those pictures at the office of your wife.

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 4:46 PM

really? where have I ever asked you about your sexuality, or talked about it? nice lie…you are good at that.

unlike you, my sexuality is not the prime characteristic of my life…the gays seem stuck in a early-teen phase of life…where sex is just SO cool..and groovy baby…LOL

and my sexuality doesn’t entail the loss of liberty for those, like you, who contemptuously call heteros ‘breeders’

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 4:49 PM

Bullying by the gay mafia. Must not be recruitment day. – Inanemergencydial on January 22, 2011 at 4:48 PM

No, idiot, that is on Tuesday and Thursday. Would you like to convert. I will be glad to send you some papers to fill out./sarc

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 4:50 PM

That is what I said, the KKK is not open to the public. Are you getting a little emotional?

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 4:48 PM

well tell me then gomer, where do they get new members at, if they’re not open to the public? hmmm???? this is your area of expertise after all…

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 4:50 PM

Remember the girl you took to your first Prom?

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 4:46 PM

uh not very well, why? what does it matter? where do you come up with this idiotic drivel at?

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 4:52 PM

really? where have I ever asked you about your sexuality, or talked about it? nice lie…you are good at that.

unlike you, my sexuality is not the prime characteristic of my life…the gays seem stuck in a early-teen phase of life…where sex is just SO cool..and groovy baby…LOL

and my sexuality doesn’t entail the loss of liberty for those, like you, who contemptuously call heteros ‘breeders’

right4life on January 22, 2011 at 4:49 PM

Oh, you have to be kidding. I love my nine nieces and nephews, who are all straight. And, I am hoping to one day be a grand-uncle. I wish that they would get to work on it.

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 4:54 PM

well tell me then gomer, where do they [KKK] get new members at, if they’re not open to the public? hmmm???? this is your area of expertise after all… – right4life on January 22, 2011 at 4:50 PM

I have no idea. You are the one who brought the KKK into the conversation. At one time they were powerful. Today they are considered to be kooks by everyone.

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 4:58 PM

Right4life, I propose that both of stop spending so much time on our computers and get on with the rest of our lives, in peace.

SC.Charlie on January 22, 2011 at 5:00 PM

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