Giuliani: I’m more likely to run in 2012 if Palin runs

posted at 5:32 pm on January 21, 2011 by Allahpundit

I know what I said about Christie, but I’ve changed my mind.

Clearly, it’s this guy who’s the ultimate RINO.

“The more Republicans in which I can show a contrast, probably the better chance, the better chance that I have,” Giuliani told CNN’s Piers Morgan in an interview set to air at 9 pm. ET Monday. Portions of the interview will air Friday (tonight) on CNN’s “John King, USA” at 7 p.m. ET.

But if he does run, Giuliani says he would concentrate on winning Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina, sites of the first presidential nominating contests. In 2008 Giuliani focused his resources in Florida, a strategy that that led to the demise of his run after he finished third in the state’s primary.

He doesn’t have a prayer in Iowa or South Carolina, needless to say, and Romney’s financial and geographic advantage would make New Hampshire an exceedingly high hurdle. In fact, the only reason this soundbite is interesting is because it’s as close as we’re likely to get to a potential candidate acknowledging the “Palin vs. anti-Palin” primary dynamic with which I’ve bored you guys so many times before. Just today, PPP is out with new national numbers showing her net favorability among Republicans higher than any other candidate’s — and yet she pulls just 14 percent of the vote, tied for a distant second behind Huckabee. If there were no moderates in the field and it looked like she might very well emerge from the social con side of the party, then yeah, Rudy’s anti-Palin strategy makes a lot of sense. His problem is that there are formidable moderate candidates out there — Romney has all but written off tea partiers — and they’ll follow the same strategy, emphasizing in studiously vague terms that only a “competent,” “non-polarizing” nominee has a chance to win (without mentioning any names, natch). In fact, one of the intriguing footnotes to PPP’s poll is Pawlenty inching up to eight percent and cutting into Romney’s numbers, proof that the moderate vote may indeed be hotly contested. What’s the case for pro-choice Rudy, who hasn’t held elective office in almost 10 years, over either of them?

Palin’s actually going to be in Rudy’s backyard next month, so consider the clip below “round one.” Exit question: Is Mike Pence the “Palin” and the “anti-Palin”?


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Huckabee is against contraception.

Conservative Samizdat on January 21, 2011 at 7:32 PM

Man, I’m kinda stunned to learn that.

Geochelone on January 21, 2011 at 7:36 PM

Huckabee is against contraception.

Conservative Samizdat on January 21, 2011 at 7:32 PM

That explains his 2 sons…

Gohawgs on January 21, 2011 at 7:37 PM

The upcoming debates should be a lively 30 seconds for those standing behind the podiums…

Gohawgs on January 21, 2011 at 7:38 PM

Ever seen this?
*grin*

annoyinglittletwerp on January 21, 2011 at 7:31 PM

I remember that skit absolutely but didn’t realize until now that it was Mel Blanc. FYI, his vocal cords were some kind of incredible. Very thick neck and some good lungs on that dude.

Geochelone on January 21, 2011 at 7:39 PM

Gohawgs on January 21, 2011 at 7:38 PM

What are you doing out in this early hour?..:)

Dire Straits on January 21, 2011 at 7:42 PM

…I disagree. The favorability among ALL Americans for Palin is low. People either hate her or love her. And unfortunately, many don’t like her.

As for Romney’s his favorability isn’t sky high but its not lower than Palin.

Conservative Samizdat on January 21, 2011 at 7:20 PM

A problem with Romney is that the day after he is nominated every network and PBS will air week-long documentaries on the Mormon religion, and by the time they are done independent voters will think Mormonism is worse than islam. Not fair at all, but that’s what the liberal media does.

slickwillie2001 on January 21, 2011 at 7:47 PM

Dire Straits on January 21, 2011 at 7:42 PM

Getting ready to hit the hay…

Gohawgs on January 21, 2011 at 7:55 PM

Gohawgs on January 21, 2011 at 7:55 PM

C’mon the night is young!..Hope to see you on the QOTD thread!..:)

Dire Straits on January 21, 2011 at 7:56 PM

slickwillie2001 on January 21, 2011 at 7:47 PM

Thank You
Whatever R gets nominated will be the start of tearing that person to shreds. Rommney, Huckabee Newt it doesn’t matter. They will sink worse in the polls then Palin at her worst.

Gracelynn on January 21, 2011 at 7:58 PM

Rick Perry will be the Palin and the anti-Palin.

Ed Morrissey on January 21, 2011 at 5:41 PM

The anti-conservative part where he mandated Gardisil vaccinations for all school girls aged 11-12 would be the anti-Palin part, right?

No Rick Perry.

And no Rudy VP to Sarah Palin. He can get a cabinet position, but I would lose much respect for her if she chose someone so diametrically opposed to social conservatives.

pannw on January 21, 2011 at 7:59 PM

But before I go, the greatest cartoon character

Followed by…

Gohawgs on January 21, 2011 at 8:02 PM

Gohawgs on January 21, 2011 at 8:02 PM

Excellent post..I would add this classic!..:)

Dire Straits on January 21, 2011 at 8:07 PM

Dayum, I am so mad…now Todd’s the target.

ProudPalinFan on January 21, 2011 at 8:14 PM

Dire Straits on January 21, 2011 at 8:07 PM

Reminds me of a French farce and/or fiberglass batts…

Gohawgs on January 21, 2011 at 8:16 PM

“Huckabee is against contraception.
Conservative Samizdat on January 21, 2011 at 7:32 PM

That explains his 2 sons…
Gohawgs on January 21, 2011 at 7:37 PM”

ROTFL!

JimP on January 21, 2011 at 8:16 PM

run rudy run. Mitt’s stalking horse.

So the quislings have three picks now.

Mitt
Newt
Rudy.

while the soc cons have two

Huck
Palin

and the Reaganits have one and only one choice still:

PALIN

unseen on January 21, 2011 at 8:21 PM

I think Rudy’s role would be to play the moderate spoiler. Suck votes away from Mitt.

powerpro on January 21, 2011 at 5:36 PM

I see it that way exactly. I can’t conceive of Rudy being a Palin back-stabber but rather a moderate enabler as you have described.

Because if it were later found to be the case, that Rudy was attempting to sabotage SP’s chances I would question my judgement of character for the rest of my life.

I think Rudy is sending a message, by this announcement, to intimidate Romney from all considerations of a campaign. Of course this is highly speculative reading of tea leaves but is tantalizingly juicy nonetheless.

I was a New Yorker during Rudy’s reign. I think I know the man.

Geochelone on January 21, 2011 at 5:45 PM

I read the tea leaves this same way too. I’m OK and don’t bash The Trumpster. I love it when he calls Cavuto. Especially this China issue; that gets him fired up.

ProudPalinFan on January 21, 2011 at 8:24 PM

A problem with Romney is that the day after he is nominated every network and PBS will air week-long documentaries on the Mormon religion, and by the time they are done independent voters will think Mormonism is worse than islam. Not fair at all, but that’s what the liberal media does.

slickwillie2001 on January 21, 2011 at 7:47 PM

THIS!!! +1000.

Unfortunately, most Republicans do not learn from the past. We were told in 2008 that nominating McCain would be a sure bet to win the presidency… after all, the media was his natural constituency and he was a fixture on the Sunday talk shows. We saw what happened and how he was torn into shreds.

What we need in 2012 is a fighter, period! Somebody who will NOT cower from the media and will meet fire with fire (dangerous rhetoric, eh?). Romney is not it!! Why? Where has he been the last two years? Standing up to Obama and fighting for conservatives? Nah! Unfortunately, with the exception of Palin, there has been no potential candidate that has been out prominently fighting Obama and the Dems.

I could live with Christie running for the nomination – because he has shown he is willing to fight for conservative values, the media be damned! But if the GOP is going to run another milquetoast RINO in 2012 who desires media adulation, we will lose period! And the margin will not be close…

TheRightMan on January 21, 2011 at 8:30 PM

Daffy Duck/Marvin Martian/2012!

annoyinglittletwerp on January 21, 2011 at 6:14 PM

BINGO!!Bring his Martian dog and the Martian dodos

ProudPalinFan on January 21, 2011 at 8:41 PM

Huck is also against teaching about contraception (or anything besides abstinence) in schools. http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/159802.asp

alwaysfiredup on January 21, 2011 at 8:42 PM

this is a poll of REPUBLICANS who are afraid that her being tagged as a mass murderer isn’t good for electoral chances.

picklesgap

It’s a poll of Republicans who know she can’t win. It’s not like her numbers just went into the crapper after Tuscon. If her own party doesn’t want her, who do you feel does in your imaginary world?

xblade on January 21, 2011 at 9:01 PM

Huck is also against teaching about contraception (or anything besides abstinence) in schools. http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/159802.asp

alwaysfiredup on January 21, 2011 at 8:42 PM

In your opinion, is he really a throwback to “let’s pretend sex doesn’t exist until 18″, or is he just pandering to the Christian fundamentalists who are? I’m inclined to think the latter, but I’m not sure.

Dark-Star on January 21, 2011 at 9:07 PM

If he sucks away votes from Mitt, I’m down.

El_Terrible on January 21, 2011 at 9:14 PM

I like it. He’s a great asset.

sherry on January 21, 2011 at 9:24 PM

Could it be that he’s trying to do Palin a favor by diluting the anti-Palin moderate vote? I’ve never sensed that Giuliani is all that anti-Palin.

ddrintn on January 21, 2011 at 9:49 PM

In your opinion, is he really a throwback to “let’s pretend sex doesn’t exist until 18″, or is he just pandering to the Christian fundamentalists who are? I’m inclined to think the latter, but I’m not sure.

Dark-Star on January 21, 2011 at 9:07 PM

You can be so moronic at times. In fact, I think you’re a moron fundamentalist.

darwin on January 21, 2011 at 9:50 PM

It’s a poll of Republicans who know she can’t win. It’s not like her numbers just went into the crapper after Tuscon. If her own party doesn’t want her, who do you feel does in your imaginary world?

xblade on January 21, 2011 at 9:01 PM

If she’s in the crapper, why do so many Republicans try to keep her from running? In the crapper should equal “won’t win a single primary”.

ddrintn on January 21, 2011 at 9:51 PM

A problem with Romney is that the day after he is nominated every network and PBS will air week-long documentaries on the Mormon religion, and by the time they are done independent voters will think Mormonism is worse than islam. Not fair at all, but that’s what the liberal media does.

slickwillie2001 on January 21, 2011 at 7:47 PM

Sadly, that is true.

However, they will run negative stories about the GOP candidate regardless of who it is.

Remember Dan Rather and his false allegations about the National Guard with George W. Bush?

Let all GOP candidates run and do their best in combating the media.

Conservative Samizdat on January 21, 2011 at 10:06 PM

No one from 2008 should be running period. Want someone new like Mike Pence to run. Sure hope he decides to run for President — would get behind him in a heartbeat — no better speaker that speaks from the heart than Mike Pence.

PhiKapMom on January 21, 2011 at 10:23 PM

Huck is also against teaching about contraception (or anything besides abstinence) in schools. http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/159802.asp

alwaysfiredup on January 21, 2011 at 8:42 PM

Noooo! I’m going to start liking Huck better! Stop it!

pannw on January 21, 2011 at 10:25 PM

Dayum, I am so mad…now Todd’s the target.

ProudPalinFan on January 21, 2011 at 8:14 PM

C4P has the crucial info on this. They handled this very well. First they ran an article about Barry and his supposed tryst with some babe. Then they used this story to address these latest smears re: Todd. The crucial info they point out is that this nonsense is based on “anonymous sources”. We know what that means.

Stacy McCain traced the source of some of these early on and discovered they were being paid for by 0′s buddies who got millions in stimulus money which they were told used to pay for those filing the ethics charges and to start rumors based on phony info from anonymous sources. Same old same old bs. The WH and 0 will stop at nothing to smear Sarah but it’s getting old now and their fingerprints are all over this. So move along now, nothing to see here.

shmendrick on January 21, 2011 at 10:26 PM

Now if Florida voted first, we would now have Prez. Rudy.

AshleyTKing on January 21, 2011 at 10:27 PM

Pack it in Rudy. You’ve had your 15 minutes.

GarandFan on January 21, 2011 at 10:30 PM

Giuliani: I’m more likely to run in 2012 if Palin runs

correction:

I’m We’re more likely to run in 2012 if Palin runs

Let’s get honest. The charade is getting tiresome

entagor on January 21, 2011 at 10:39 PM

As an ex NYer Rudy is still a hero to me. I wouldn’t vote for him for POTUS over Palin but to anyone who knew what NYC was like before he took over you can’t help but admire him. He cleaned up the town (no small accomplishment) and when 911 happened he showed that he was a real leader. That’s why he’s known as America’s Mayor. If he gets in the race as a way of helping Sarah all the more kudos to him. I think he would make a great AG.

shmendrick on January 21, 2011 at 10:39 PM

The parade passed two years ago, Rudy.

Why not do something useful like educating people in America about the civilizationally-deadly threat of implacable, intolerant Imperialistic Islam …and not waste time running on a greased treadmill to nowhere?

profitsbeard on January 21, 2011 at 10:54 PM

Wasn’t it this time about 4 years ago that ALL the polls told us it was going to be a GUILIANI / HILLARY matchup for the White House in 2008?

I hope he runs (he’ll lose and siphon votes away from Romney and Daniels and TPaw). He’s really just running for Attorney General in the next GOP Administration.


The more the merrier!!!

PappyD61 on January 21, 2011 at 11:01 PM

Rick Perry will be the Palin and the anti-Palin.

Ed Morrissey on January 21, 2011 at 5:41 PM

Ed, do you think he’s really going to run?

PappyD61 on January 21, 2011 at 11:04 PM

Rudy…..the kind of guy that bleeds you, typical NY hero. All talk, all in your face, all empty. Go home and bang your (insert #) wife/mistress/whatever

dmann on January 21, 2011 at 11:41 PM

In fact, I think you’re a moron fundamentalist.

darwin on January 21, 2011 at 9:50 PM

Funny thing about opinions on the Internet, especially those from people who ‘think’ as much as a houseplant…

Dark-Star on January 21, 2011 at 11:57 PM

dmann on January 21, 2011 at 11:41 PM

Actually Rudy replaced a Dem mayor who was a pc disaster. The city was over run with aggressive grifters and homeless crazies and drunks. The dems and the unions had virtually bankrupted the place and hopelessness ran very strong. Rudy restored law and order, made it safe to walk the streets again and got the budget back under control. He is a social lib type but was a good manager and fiscal conservative. The city came back and thrived under his watch and he was an effective leader through the crisis that was 911. Few would have had the courage he displayed on that dark day.

All that not withstanding, Sarah is by far the best one for POTUS now but Rudy would still make a great AG and maybe that is what he is really running for, that and maybe to split the RINO vote in order to help Sarah.

shmendrick on January 22, 2011 at 12:17 AM

In your opinion, is he really a throwback to “let’s pretend sex doesn’t exist until 18″, or is he just pandering to the Christian fundamentalists who are? I’m inclined to think the latter, but I’m not sure.

Dark-Star on January 21, 2011 at 9:07 PM

Wild guess — you don’t actually know any Christian fundamentalists.

Pythagoras on January 22, 2011 at 1:47 AM

Run, Rudy, Run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Palin/Rudy 2012!

TheAlamos on January 22, 2011 at 2:44 AM

hey, guys, picking on Rudy.

At least Rudy is an honest moderate.

Plus, he’s a gentleman, ready to take care of Palin.

With Rudy, Romney’s chances will be lower. Palin’s chance will soar higher.

RUN RUDY RUN!

PALIN/RUDY 2012!

TheAlamos on January 22, 2011 at 2:48 AM

hey, guys, STOP picking on Rudy.

At least Rudy is an honest moderate.

TheAlamos on January 22, 2011 at 2:49 AM

He’ll probably use a banner from the plane as he flies over Iowa.

LOL*

AnninCA on January 22, 2011 at 9:21 AM

I’m personally starting to get Cristie. He’s the anti-thesis of Palin, actually. Very rough.

I can’t see the upside for the GOP.

I read today that Gingrich is really running. What’s wrong with him?

AnninCA on January 22, 2011 at 9:22 AM

No body worries about Mitt, Huck, Christie, Giuliani, or anyone but…………..They all sweat about……….SARAH!

Herb on January 22, 2011 at 9:29 AM

He’s jealous and intends to out-fabulous Palin. Dude looks like a twisted mortician in that photo.

pc on January 22, 2011 at 10:07 AM

The objective of Republicans should be to beat Obama. Rudy would triangulate very well against Obama. He would get many moderate independent voters who would not embrace the more conservative GOP aspirants. Despite the criticism of Rudy on places like Hot Air, he is a smart guy with proven management ability who can say thoughtful things spontaneously without a teleprompter. Yes, against Obama, I predict he would win about 98% of the Hot Air vote. Maybe Ed and Allah could do some trial heat polls of Obama against individual GOP aspirants and put my theory to the test.

KW64 on January 22, 2011 at 10:31 AM

Hey Allahpundit, are you sure that Guliani doesn’t have a prayer in SC? SC doesn’t have party registration (I know; I moved there and registered to vote in 2008).

If the Dems don’t have a contested primary in 2012, couldn’t Guliani gets lots of crossover votes?

Pythagoras on January 22, 2011 at 10:39 AM

Hey Rudy: if a smart guy like you runs such a stupid campaign as you did in 08, you’ll be no threat. So go ahead and bring it on. DD

Darvin Dowdy on January 22, 2011 at 12:30 PM

Huckabee is against tossing salad.

leftnomore on January 22, 2011 at 8:08 PM

He doesn’t have a prayer in Iowa or South Carolina, needless to say, and Romney’s financial and geographic advantage would make New Hampshire an exceedingly high hurdle.

Romney has very little chance of winning NH. Forget the straw poll of of the rino’s.

dogsoldier on January 22, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Dark-Star on January 21, 2011 at 9:07 PM

Wild guess — you don’t actually know any Christian fundamentalists.

Pythagoras on January 22, 2011 at 1:47 AM

I’ve seen a small slice of every part of the Christian spectrum from the Mormons to Catholics to southern fundie fanatics.

It’s made me realize how easy it is for a religion to go off the deep end.

Dark-Star on January 23, 2011 at 10:13 AM

Romney has very little chance of winning NH. Forget the straw poll of of the rino’s.

dogsoldier on January 22, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Here’s the story from NH. I was there as a voting member.

It was a much larger crowd than two years ago. People in the GOP are fired up to win in 2012. We also had a very close race to elect a new state chairman as unfortunately John Sununu who did a fantastic job the last two years has decided to step down. The election was extremely close but ended up going to Jack Kimball who had lost in the last election in the primary for the governors race. Jack is a business man with long time Tea Party roots who is a no nonsense guy. My favorite bumper sticker I saw there describes Jack well: “I was anti-Obama before it was cool.”

The straw poll that the media is making a big deal about was run by the local ABC TV channel. They weren’t there two years ago. People generally didn’t take the poll very seriously and many didn’t even bother to vote. I think you can see that in Ron Paul coming in second.

A lot of people put down Romney as their choice but its not a showing of firm support. I would be very surprised if he actually won here in the primary. Pawlenty did better than some might expect but that is due to the fact that his people have been working the state for a while now. His support here I would also characterize as weak. Sarah’s people on the other hand are quite dedicated and are only beginning to get organized so I would expect her numbers will begin to climb strongly once her gang gets going. Herman Cain actually had a booth here but was more of a curiosity than a serious candidate. Same with Santorum, had a booth but no one paid much attention despite the fact that he has been here more than once.

So that’s my report from the NH GOP state convention. If anyone has any questions I’ll be monitoring this thread for a while. Later it’s Jets, Jets, Jets.

shmendrick on January 23, 2011 at 10:39 AM

She was a mayor!
He’ll have a hard time taking back the great things he said about her in 2008 (@22:00).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJDuthy3p3c&feature=related

Shaughnessy on January 24, 2011 at 12:05 AM

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