Steve Cohen on GOP/Nazi analogy: All I meant is that Republicans are liars like Goebbels

posted at 7:52 pm on January 19, 2011 by Allahpundit

Of course he’s not sorry. As Ed noted this morning, not only has Cohen proved himself fully capable of vicious demagoguery before, but the last time he stooped this low he tossed in a little joke about McCain looking like a Vietcong POW again when he stood next to Palin. That’s the mentality you’re dealing with here — exhibit 8,579 in what a sleazy fraud the left’s ostentatious handwringing over “civility” is.

“I wasn’t trying to say, never would say, haven’t said and wouldn’t say that the Republicans are akin to the party that he [Goebbels] was a part of, but they [Republicans] did lie and they’ve said the lie over and over again,” Cohen said.

“The fact is that the government takeover of health care is a lie,” he said.

“I don’t think I was comparing the Republicans to Goebbels. I was saying that lies are lies and Goebbels was the great perpetrator of lies and that’s a danger, and if you look at Goebbels you can see the lie that he told about Jews which he constantly did, became considered fact in Germany that the Jews were evil, and people got involved and didn’t stand up.”…

“I think civility is not lying, and if you can’t come up and say that somebody is lying when they’re lying, then the lie becomes the truth. That’s not uncivil to say somebody lied,” he said.

But, after several questions about the appropriateness of evoking a Nazi to make that point, Cohen did say that “there are no Nazis in Congress, there are some liars, but no Nazis.”

Just so we’re clear: Lying is uncivil, but reaching for and belaboring a comparison between your opponents and the Nazi propaganda minister who drummed up support for the Final Solution is just speaking “truth to power” or whatever the progressive catchphrase of the moment might be. As for his underlying point about O-Care being a government takeover of health care, true enough — there’ll be a lottttt more government interference in the marketplace now, as even the law’s proponents concede, but the full takeover will have to wait until costs start going up and insurers start imploding and the left starts pushing for the public option and inevitably single-payer to “fix the problem.” In fact, below you’ll find Rachel Maddow nudging Pelosi just last night about ObamaCare being something to “build on” if it survives the GOP’s repeal endeavors. It’s intended to bring about a government takeover of health care down the road, but we’re not quite all the way there yet ergo the Republicans are guilty of a Big Lie worthy of Josef Goebbels. Good work, Steve.

Speaking of big lies, watch out for Nancy asserting here that if the Democrats hadn’t passed ObamaCare they might have lost even more seats in November. That’s the left’s old “effectiveness” argument in action — that if Obama and Pelosi took up health-care reform and then abandoned it without passing it a la Clinton, the base would have been so dispirited that no one would have turned out to vote. Could be, but note the false choice posed there in what to do once they had started work on the bill. A radical alternative not considered: Obama could have declared early on that they shouldn’t start work on the bill at all, that health-care reform should wait until the economic recovery had begun in earnest and the deficit was under control. That would have won him and Pelosi a ton of goodwill from independents by proving that their priorities were in line with voters’. Instead the Democrats went the way they did, and Pelosi, at least, will apparently never forgive the electorate for the result.

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hypocrisy thy name is Cohen

NY Conservative on January 19, 2011 at 7:54 PM

Steve Cohen on GOP/Nazi analogy: All I meant is that Republicans are liars like Goebbels

Oh okay. That’s MUCH better.

powerpro on January 19, 2011 at 7:54 PM

“I think civility is not lying, and if you can’t come up and say that somebody is lying when they’re lying, then the lie becomes the truth. That’s not uncivil to say somebody lied,” he said.

Unless you’re Palin, though, right? She should shut up regardless.

alwaysfiredup on January 19, 2011 at 7:55 PM

Oh. Okay then.

Gosh what was all the fuss about.

Jeddite on January 19, 2011 at 7:57 PM

yeah right cohen….keep back pedaling there bub…

putz

cmsinaz on January 19, 2011 at 7:58 PM

Gotta love that Democratic “nuance”.

GarandFan on January 19, 2011 at 7:59 PM

Cohen…..member of the..,,

…..Progressive Axis of Evil member

PappyD61 on January 19, 2011 at 7:59 PM

Cohen is a national socialist collaborationist sleaze. Soros must be proud of him.

viking01 on January 19, 2011 at 8:01 PM

We all have a pre-existing condition it’s called being alive, I know there are provisions in the health care bill that don’t protect all human life.

fourdeucer on January 19, 2011 at 8:01 PM

A shining example of how the Left is so conditioned to understand civility as a term only applied to conservatives they want to STFU. They are a creation of an agenda driven media bubble.

Saltysam on January 19, 2011 at 8:03 PM

If Democratic Jews can crucify (excuse my language) Palin for “blood libel,” how about this gem from the ’08 campaign?

Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn): “Barack Obama was a community organizer like Jesus, who our minister prayed about. Pontius Pilate was a governor.”

A Jewish congressman invoking the death of Christ. If I was part of that culture of offense, I might take umbrage as a Christian.

KingGold on January 19, 2011 at 8:03 PM

Republicans need to make this guy the face of the Democratic party. That is what Democrats and the media do so well against republicans.

brewcrew67 on January 19, 2011 at 8:03 PM

Stephen Cohen: “The only reason these Nazis have a problem with what I’m saying is because of my Jewish name.”

jimmy the notable on January 19, 2011 at 8:03 PM

It has to be a mental health issue…

d1carter on January 19, 2011 at 8:04 PM

Be aware that from here on, criticizing this guy will be designated by the left/media hive as hate speech.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on January 19, 2011 at 8:10 PM

I am sure the Dem leadership in the House will have him apologize for this kind of rhetoric…

d1carter on January 19, 2011 at 8:11 PM

It’s the longest running play in D.C.: “Waiting for Godwin.”

locomotivebreath1901 on January 19, 2011 at 8:11 PM

All I meant is that Republicans are liars like Goebbels

now he’s really insultingly underestimating them.
I’m thinking that many of them aren’t trying to lie, unlike Goebbels. That sad sack knew better.

audiculous on January 19, 2011 at 8:12 PM

That’s cool, Cohen smiles with that same “I dream of killing people with an axe” smile that Manson has. Cohen isn’t a psychopathic murderer per se, he just smiles like one.

Bishop on January 19, 2011 at 8:20 PM

What a charmer he is. Let’s hope his constituents decide to send someone else to Congress instead of him. There’s plenty of turkeys there now. We hardly need this one.

Jill1066 on January 19, 2011 at 8:23 PM

“Palin was supposed to take this sort of abuse and shut up, the rest of though, we get to respond forcefully to defend our honor.”

-GOP establishment shill

Bishop on January 19, 2011 at 8:23 PM

As a young Jew I was taught never to trivialize the Nazi’s because their evil stands alone. For a Jewish Congressman to invoke the Nazi’s against his political opponents, whom I support, is a disgrace.

galtg on January 19, 2011 at 8:27 PM

Oh, God. Somebody help me. Cohen’s words are like a dog whistle going off inside my head. I suddenly have an irresistible urge to track down my nearest Democratic lawmaker, assume a hand-cupped-in-hand outstretched arm position and start…….barking and wagging my tail.

You bunch of libtard pond scum. You’re all so full of sh*t with your civility canard it’s a wonder the brown stuff doesn’t start oozing out your ears like what happens when you squeeze the handle of a Play-Doh Fun Factory sausage-maker. You libtards make me absolutely sick to my stomach.

FlameWarrior on January 19, 2011 at 8:29 PM

Meet the new tone, same as the old tone.

Left Coast Right Mind on January 19, 2011 at 8:30 PM

Paging Congressman Cohen: your pants are on fire.

John the Libertarian on January 19, 2011 at 8:31 PM

How do we point out, without it turning into a an “I know you are so what am I” back and forth, that the democrats far too often are everything they falsely accuse the republicans of being.

I mean the left are masters at double speak, are the front runners in creating speech codes, thought crimes, and deception and deflection are their true mediums, they work it so artistically and seeemless.

flyfishingdad on January 19, 2011 at 8:37 PM

Steve Cohen and Alan Grayson.

Cut from the same soiled cloth.

FlatFoot on January 19, 2011 at 8:38 PM

Oh ho, is that all he meant! Whew! Glad to see the Dems haven’t broken their new “toned down” vow! /////////

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on January 19, 2011 at 8:41 PM

I’d comment on this, but I actually fell asleep today listening to his comments posted here. Nothing against HA, just against the droning dribble coming from the mouth of a socialist.

madmonkphotog on January 19, 2011 at 8:44 PM

Steve Cohen and Alan Grayson.

Cut from the same soiled cloth.

FlatFoot

hmmmm smells like dirty feet.

audiculous on January 19, 2011 at 8:51 PM

BTW, that photo of Cohen looks exactly like Slugworth or whatever that dude was named in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.

Doughboy on January 19, 2011 at 8:54 PM

Civility for thee, but not for me!

chickasaw42 on January 19, 2011 at 8:55 PM

I can imagine that the kapos in the camps had that same self-satisfied smile.

iconoclast on January 19, 2011 at 8:58 PM

Alan Grayson – PArt Deux

sbvft contributor on January 19, 2011 at 9:03 PM

He would have been a concentration camp trustee for sure.

Sonosam on January 19, 2011 at 9:10 PM

Keep shining the light of truth on their hypocrisy. Two great candidates today. We’ve cleared away a lot of them and now the most egregious are visible.

BetseyRoss on January 19, 2011 at 9:13 PM

Isn’t this guy from Memphis, where 20% of the girls in one high school are pregnant? 90 pregnant high schoolers.

Keep votin’ fo’ dem Democrats, Mumphis!


http://nydn.us/eDI0GJ

jamie gumm on January 19, 2011 at 9:19 PM

jamie gumm, thass right. every time someone votes for a Democrat a high school girl gets pregnant.
you funny.

audiculous on January 19, 2011 at 9:40 PM

If you want to show this turkey the door, then you need to check out Charlotte Bergmann. She is a very conservative lady who ran against Cohen in this past mid-term. She didn’t have much support or money, I think, from the republican party, as her district is heavily democratic. But, she is a fighter, and she still very much wants to serve. We need to support her and help her get the resources to really have a chance against Cohen. Add her to your FB… Sign up for her emails. She is a super nice lady and very smart too. I don’t know her personally or anything, but I have been very impressed with her since I added her to FB and have read her many posts and responses. The grassroots should get behind this wonderful conservative who has worked her way up from being homeless/living in her car to being a successful businesswoman. She exemplifies the American dream.

The district includes Germantown, Bartlett and Collierville, which are much more conservative areas than Memphis. Cohen would not even debate Bergmann. He pretty much just pretended he didn’t even have an opponent. If Charlotte had the money to really be seen and heard more, I think she could have a real shot. She is very likeable.

squeek71 on January 19, 2011 at 9:43 PM

Steve is the liar.

jarhead0311 on January 19, 2011 at 10:07 PM

Did that botox brain-dead say “reducing cost”? My head is exploding. Why do I watch this shit?

jarhead0311 on January 19, 2011 at 10:10 PM

Backpedal, backpedal, backpedal…..

CurtZHP on January 19, 2011 at 10:11 PM

Definitely blood libel.

unclesmrgol on January 19, 2011 at 10:22 PM

Spin all you want, you wretched cretin, we’re going to make you own everything you say from now on.

If you don’t like it, sorry to hear it, but don’t hate the player, hate the game…

…that you and your party created.

SuperCool on January 19, 2011 at 10:28 PM

The new civility only applies to conseervatives and some GOPers. So pipe down. There has been too many libs spitting totally outrageous statements in the last 24 hours. OT ex walmart protest sign with a crosshair to be held at developers private home…..

conmo on January 19, 2011 at 10:32 PM

For the white guy that they won’t let into the CBC, he sure displays the requisite Jackson-Lee and Waters intellectual, diplomatic, and oratorical skills.

notropis on January 19, 2011 at 11:06 PM

This moron must be unfamiliar with Progressive Saint Saul Alinsky’s Rule #4 — A lie told often enough becomes the truth.

Hermeticus on January 19, 2011 at 11:16 PM

That’s the mentality you’re dealing with here — exhibit 8,579 in what a sleazy fraud the left’s ostentatious handwringing over “civility” is.- Allapundit.

But you and Ed M. both bought the Obama New Tone Pep Rally Memoral and T-Shirt Concession Campaign Stop After A Mass-Murder hook line and sucker.

Had you forgotten 8,578 examples so easily?

Obama’s a shameless pimp for power and will tapdance to cheers over the grave of a 9 year old to stay in office.

His Dem cronies are just the slime trail this slug leaves behind him.

profitsbeard on January 19, 2011 at 11:43 PM

Steve Cohen and Alan Grayson.

Cut from the same soiled cloth.

FlatFoot

hmmmm smells like dirty feet.

audiculous on January 19, 2011 at 8:51 PM

Um, yeah. If you want to go that route I myself would go somewhat higher and posterior, Sparky.

FlatFoot on January 19, 2011 at 11:53 PM

FlatFoot

sparky would prefer not to go down the dirt road and will be happier if you just explain that remark a little bit.

audiculous on January 20, 2011 at 12:03 AM

I saw this on CNN at the gym. I got the impression CNN, and by extension, the left, is considering “Sistah Souljah”-ing this guy. Wouldn’t be surprised if he gets used as a tool to prop up the left by their throwing him under the bus.

boko fittleworth on January 20, 2011 at 12:05 AM

Argh,I am having this very fight with a friend on FB right now. While they acknowledge the left does it too, it comes from the right far more often…
Sometimes I just don’t even know how to respond…

redshirt on January 20, 2011 at 12:57 AM

Fortunately, Steve Cohen is an irrelevant leftist extremist in a state where liberals are endangered species. Thanks to Republican control of the Tennessee General Assembly, Steve Cohen will probably the only Democrat in Congress from Tennessee – in a token district in the extreme southwest corner of the state.

The African American Memphians and others in his district would probably vote for a well funded, marketable, re;atively conservative Democrat if given the option. Cohen never could have unseated Harold Ford, Jr. when Jr. held the seat.

bluetick on January 20, 2011 at 3:47 AM

Leftist dirtbag . . .

rplat on January 20, 2011 at 6:29 AM

Cohen is correct. Republicans lied about ObamaCare bringing down the deficit.

Wait a minute . . .

BigAlSouth on January 20, 2011 at 6:58 AM

As usual, the Democrats call for civility, and then turn around and incite the opposition.

zoyclem on January 20, 2011 at 7:29 AM

It just amazes me when liberals call a conservative a liar but can’t produce any examples. As for liberals lying, they are exposed on a daily basis with sound bites from the past contradicting a recent statement they’ve made. Since the word shame is foreign to them, they continue on as if nothing has happened.

Obama himself has been caught in numerous lies – not mistakes – but out right lies. It just seems like his natural language.

iamsaved on January 20, 2011 at 7:53 AM

And yet again, there will be those out there totally buying Cohens crap rhetoric. What’s worse is….even those so far on the left, who are salivating for single payer, will continue this bogus line , that a government take over, is a lie. When they know…this is all designed to lead it in that direction.

capejasmine on January 20, 2011 at 9:50 AM

Steve Cohen is just trying to be the “new” Alan Grayson. He could actually being a bigger hatemongerer than Grayson. He is from a predominantly black district in Memphis that is almost unanimously democratic. He exploits racial hatred and class warfare in ways never before seen. His whole life is consumed with hate. Without hate, he could not exist.

volsense on January 20, 2011 at 11:12 AM

iamsaved, if you think that politicians from only one side of the aisle lie, youarelost.

audiculous on January 20, 2011 at 11:33 AM

Cohen has lied every time he has opened his mouth in the last few days, just like Obama. Cut from the same statist cloth.

proconstitution on January 20, 2011 at 7:56 PM

iamsaved, if you think that politicians from only one side of the aisle lie, youarelost.

audiculous on January 20, 2011 at 11:33 AM

If you’re posing some kind of equivalence here, you’re not just lost, you’re an active opponent to the truth.

Life isn’t fair, all other things aren’t equal, and liberals lie about everything.

Stupid as a lot of Republicans are, they lie an *awful* lot less, demonstrably, and most of the accusations of lies from the left are lies themselves (2000 election, reasons for the Iraq war and who supported it, ad nauseam).

Merovign on January 20, 2011 at 8:04 PM