Change: House repeals ObamaCare, 245-189

posted at 6:53 pm on January 19, 2011 by Allahpundit

Here’s the roll. Just three Democrats voted with the GOP, which may seem surprising in light of the number of Blue Dogs who voted no on O-Care back in March but really isn’t surprising given the new electoral realities they face. Even a Pelosi nemesis as bold as Heath Shuler has taken to calling repeal “immoral,” and Larry Kissell — who voted with the GOP on the test vote a few weeks ago but flipped today — wrote recently that since the bill has no hope in the Senate, it’s not “reality-based.” I encourage you to read this or watch the clip below of Paul Ryan crunching the numbers yesterday for a reminder about which side in this debate is the “reality-based” one.

Ah well. End of the line now, as there’s no way to get it onto the Senate calendar. Or is there?

The House will pass H.R. 2 this week. Once that bill is passed, it will be sent to the Senate for consideration. Once the Senate receives the bill, any Senator can use Rule 14 to object to the second reading of the bill. This procedural objection will “hold at the desk” the House-passed bill and allow the Senate to act on the full repeal measure.

If the bill is referred to committee, it will never get to the Senate floor. This procedural objection by one or a number of Senators will stop the bill from being referred to the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee (HELP). If the bill is referred to committee, there is little to no expectation that the committee will pass the bill, let alone have one hearing on the bill.

Objecting to Rule 14 would hold the bill at the desk of the Senate and would put H.R. 2 on the Senate calendar. This procedure could be done with a letter or call from one Senator to the party leader. This would allow the Senate Majority Leader to commence debate on the matter when he so chooses. It is unlikely that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D–NV) would move to proceed to the bill, yet there is a procedure that any Senator can use to force a debate.

Any Senator can use Rule 22 to commence debate on H.R. 2 if they have held the bill at the desk.

Needless to say, you’re not going to find 13 Senate Democrats to vote with the GOP on cloture even if it did come to the floor and notwithstanding the jitters that centrists are feeling ahead of their 2012 reelection bids. But it’d be sweet to force a vote anyway, just because (as noted at the link above) it would make Democrats squirm at possibly having to invoke the filibuster at a moment when filibuster reform is all the rage among their base. And if the GOP regains a Senate majority in 2012, they could conceivably use reconciliation to break a Democratic filibuster and push a repeal bill through — but it won’t be easy.

For further reading, kindly enjoy this analysis from today’s NYT about how, almost a year later, we still have no idea of how ObamaCare will perform in practice. In a sane world, tremendous uncertainty about the outcome would make it impossible to enact a new, nationwide, massively expensive, possibly unrepealable entitlement. But that’s not our world, is it?

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Now what?

faraway on January 19, 2011 at 7:25 PM

Ask the Democrats why they’re blocking the will of the electorate. Over and over.

Make them defend this piece of crap. Get them on record.

Make them say stupid things about the Constitution.

Make them look like the morons they are, and point out that they appointed themselves in charge of the nation’s health insurance and health care delivery, and that they don’t care if you want it or not.

Go on offense.

Good Lt on January 19, 2011 at 7:29 PM

The adults are in charge.

crr6 on January 19, 2011 at 6:58 PM

Only in the House. The inmates still run the Senate asylum.

Good Solid B-Plus on January 19, 2011 at 7:29 PM

I do trust they get the basics of what people want.

AnninCA on January 19, 2011 at 7:23 PM

Well, I dunno what “people” want, but I know what I want: I want the guvmint to butt the hell outta my ability to make my own healthcare decisions!

Mary in LA on January 19, 2011 at 7:30 PM

I guess the answer is that the Senate is fixed.

I can’t imagine why, really.

But, whatever.

AnninCA on January 19, 2011 at 7:30 PM

Is it too late to repeal the stimulus too?

Chuck Schick on January 19, 2011 at 7:32 PM

“It’s important to define ourselves with actions” :-)

diogenes on January 19, 2011 at 7:32 PM

Well, I dunno what “people” want, but I know what I want: I want the guvmint to butt the hell outta my ability to make my own healthcare decisions!

Mary in LA on January 19, 2011 at 7:30 PM

Of course, but people did want an end to the practice of taking premiums and then denying coverage.

That was a bit of capitalism run amok!

It reminded me of the 1920 stories, where life insurance companies stole from poor people, and never paid off a claim.

AnninCA on January 19, 2011 at 7:33 PM

Force it!
Who cares if the Senate will vote against it? Fight on.
I keep thinking that if the Republicans had had the fortitude to continue to push McCain’s S-90, we might well have averted the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac disaster and this lengthy recession. But the Dems killed S-90 in committee and the Republicans gave up.

We must learn from the past.

LASue on January 19, 2011 at 7:33 PM

Mary in LA on January 19, 2011 at 7:30 PM

Please don’t feed the trolls, especially that one.

Knucklehead on January 19, 2011 at 7:33 PM

Is it too late to repeal the stimulus too?

Chuck Schick on January 19, 2011 at 7:32 PM

You were probably joking, but I wondered about just that.

Why should we have to carry that on the books?

AnninCA on January 19, 2011 at 7:34 PM

I think that the vote was important. It ended the idea that this change is permanent.

I think that’s false thinking.

AnninCA on January 19, 2011 at 7:36 PM

The adults are in charge.

crr6 on January 19, 2011 at 6:58 PM

Only in the House. The inmates still run the Senate asylum.

Good Solid B-Plus on January 19, 2011 at 7:29 PM

Do you think this bill has even a remote possibility of becoming law? If yes, how? If not, why do you support its passage?

crr6 on January 19, 2011 at 7:37 PM

If he can’t find that proof, then what? Do we have a constitutional crisis on our hands?

Mary in LA on January 19, 2011 at 7:28 PM

I hope and change so!

Kini on January 19, 2011 at 7:38 PM

Good Solid B-Plus on January 19, 2011 at 7:29 PM

Too funny. Too true.

betsyz on January 19, 2011 at 7:38 PM

We have to repeal it so we never find out whats in it!

csdeven on January 19, 2011 at 7:39 PM

AnnIdiot is trying to revisit her evil insurance company theme, in which she always ignored the fact that most people whose insurance was “rescinded” had attempted to defraud the insurance company. Similarly, I’ll ignore any response from her.

GaltBlvnAtty on January 19, 2011 at 7:40 PM

In a sane world, tremendous uncertainty about the outcome would make it impossible to enact a new, nationwide, massively expensive, possibly unrepealable entitlement. But that’s not our world, is it?

you can say that again.

ted c on January 19, 2011 at 7:41 PM

Why should we have to carry that on the books?

AnninCA on January 19, 2011 at 7:34 PM

But, Ann, your beloved Bill and Hillary think the stimulus is a good thing!

ladyingray on January 19, 2011 at 7:41 PM

Do you think this bill has even a remote possibility of becoming law? If yes, how? If not, why do you support its passage?

crr6 on January 19, 2011 at 7:37 PM

Why did you support ObamaCare passing? I’ve seen you post 100s of reasons why it won’t ever be repealed or ruled unconstitutional. I have yet to see you explain why it’s a good law. It will only drive up the national debt and make insurance far more expensive.

Chuck Schick on January 19, 2011 at 7:41 PM

I personally will repeat that people were upset about the insurance industry of taking their money while denying coverage.

But I don’t think that people thought that meant, usher in some huge government takeover.

AnninCA on January 19, 2011 at 7:42 PM

Took awhile but numbnutz6 became jimbo3.

Insufferable, stalinist, reprobate, agitator.

Inanemergencydial on January 19, 2011 at 7:42 PM

We have to be careful with this and not do the same things the dems did and not pay attention to jobs. Reid will try to drag this out.

tomas on January 19, 2011 at 7:42 PM

Do you think this bill has even a remote possibility of becoming law? If yes, how? If not, why do you support its passage?

crr6 on January 19, 2011 at 7:37 PM

We’ll talk when SCOTUS declares it unconstitutional…because they will.

ladyingray on January 19, 2011 at 7:43 PM

But, Ann, your beloved Bill and Hillary think the stimulus is a good thing!

ladyingray on January 19, 2011 at 7:41 PM

Not really. I do think you’ll find complete support for Tarp II.

AnninCA on January 19, 2011 at 7:43 PM

Good start ladies and gentlemen…

… now on to the “DEFUNDING”!!!

Seven Percent Solution on January 19, 2011 at 7:43 PM

Now let’s see some “replace”.

If the replacements are good you might get this on the Senate agenda.

petunia on January 19, 2011 at 7:44 PM

Just three Democrats voted with the GOP

That’s enough to make it a “bipartisan” support of the repeal, though.

malclave on January 19, 2011 at 7:44 PM

Not really. I do think you’ll find complete support for Tarp II.

AnninCA on January 19, 2011 at 7:43 PM

So, you’re saying Bill and Hillary opposed stimulus?

ladyingray on January 19, 2011 at 7:45 PM

The big question for Independents?

So what do YOU propose. Some of you are so conservative that you’ll never attract moderates.

So now, the real GOP revival begins.

Let’s see what happens. It will also change the presidential arena, for sure.

AnninCA on January 19, 2011 at 7:46 PM

But I don’t think that people thought that meant, usher in some huge government takeover.

AnninCA on January 19, 2011 at 7:42 PM

PUBLIC OPTION or BUST!!!!!

ladyingray on January 19, 2011 at 7:46 PM

To crr6: You dare ask this question.

We have to repeal it so we never find out whats in it!

csdeven on January 19, 2011 at 7:39 PM

What DO YOU think about an entire congress that embraces, votes for, passes a humongous bill, that no one reads or cares enough to think through? Just pass it is good enough.
I thought you were some sort of lawyer proto-type, going to school, or some such. Is this an example of the things that they teach you? Never question, just accept on face value?

betsyz on January 19, 2011 at 7:46 PM

… evil insurance company theme, in which she always ignored the fact that most people whose insurance was “rescinded” had attempted to defraud the insurance company. …

GaltBlvnAtty on January 19, 2011 at 7:40 PM

Some companies did default on homeowner’s insurance policies taken out on homes destroyed or damaged in the Loma Prieta quake of 1989 (one example I have personal knowledge of).

However, the cure for that would not be some Federal “HomeOwnerCare”, but instead, allowing insurance companies to sell across state lines, enlarging the risk pool. IMHO, this is exactly what should be done with private health insurance. Let me buy my own, like a responsible person, and take it with me wherever I move.

Mary in LA on January 19, 2011 at 7:47 PM

Re: stimulus – they could vote to end it, could they not? There are apparently billions yet unspent. They could vote to stop where they are, spend no further. Of course, Barry would likely veto that as well.
But, just as with healthcare, I’d like to see the vote – 2012 and all that.

humdinger on January 19, 2011 at 7:47 PM

We’ll talk when SCOTUS declares it unconstitutional…because they will.

ladyingray on January 19, 2011 at 7:43 PM

Until then, let’s keep pressure on the House to send HR 2 to the Senate Every. Damned. Week. until until Reid is out of the chamber enjoying his annual bowel movement, at which point it just might pass.

MrScribbler on January 19, 2011 at 7:47 PM

w00t w00t

Charge!!!

On to the Senate!! The people deserve an up or down vote!!

El_Terrible on January 19, 2011 at 7:48 PM

Let’s see what happens. It will also change the presidential arena, for sure.

AnninCA on January 19, 2011 at 7:46 PM

Just to gauge the *cough* moderate stance, what say you to Donald Trump as a presidential candidate?

ladyingray on January 19, 2011 at 7:48 PM

But, Ann, your beloved Bill and Hillary think the stimulus is a good thing!

ladyingray on January 19, 2011 at 7:41 PM

I think that Bill and Hillary Clinton are so solidly Democrat that they absolutely supported the stimulus bill.

While they also knew it was misguided.

Hillary just admitted today, btw, that she probably won’t be SOS after this one session.

Thank heavens.

It’s been miserable for me, anyway, to watch this.

AnninCA on January 19, 2011 at 7:49 PM

You mean all those nefarious RINOs voted to repeal ObamaCare again?

swamp_yankee on January 19, 2011 at 7:49 PM

Until then, let’s keep pressure on the House to send HR 2 to the Senate Every. Damned. Week. until until Reid is out of the chamber enjoying his annual bowel movement, at which point it just might pass.

MrScribbler on January 19, 2011 at 7:47 PM

I totally agree!

ladyingray on January 19, 2011 at 7:49 PM

Just to gauge the *cough* moderate stance, what say you to Donald Trump as a presidential candidate?

ladyingray on January 19, 2011 at 7:48 PM

good gravy. You really can’t figure out anyone other than someone who totally agrees with you, I guess.

AnninCA on January 19, 2011 at 7:50 PM

Hillary just admitted today, btw, that she probably won’t be SOS after this one session.

Thank heavens.

It’s been miserable for me, anyway, to watch this.

AnninCA on January 19, 2011 at 7:49 PM

I’m sooooo sorry!

Will she run????

ladyingray on January 19, 2011 at 7:50 PM

good gravy. You really can’t figure out anyone other than someone who totally agrees with you, I guess.

AnninCA on January 19, 2011 at 7:50 PM

I’m pretty sure he and I agree on fiscal affairs and our place in the world economy, I can’t say on ‘public’ issues.

ladyingray on January 19, 2011 at 7:52 PM

That’s enough to make it a “bipartisan” support of the repeal, though.

malclave on January 19, 2011 at 7:44 PM

true…dear leader called it bipartisan with only ONE gop vote to pass the bloody thing in the first place

cmsinaz on January 19, 2011 at 7:52 PM

We’ll talk when SCOTUS declares it unconstitutional…because they will.

ladyingray on January 19, 2011 at 7:43 PM

I wouldn’t be so confident about that if I were you.

crr6 on January 19, 2011 at 7:52 PM

good gravy. You really can’t figure out anyone other than someone who totally agrees with you, I guess.

AnninCA on January 19, 2011 at 7:50 PM

good gravy. You really can’t answer the question. Why not? Holding out for Shillary?

ladyingray on January 19, 2011 at 7:53 PM

Will she run????

ladyingray on January 19, 2011 at 7:50 PM

Nope.

AnninCA on January 19, 2011 at 7:53 PM

We’ll talk when SCOTUS declares it unconstitutional…because they will.

ladyingray on January 19, 2011 at 7:43 PM

You’ll pardon me if I’m less than 100% convinced.

Dark-Star on January 19, 2011 at 7:54 PM

I wouldn’t be so confident about that if I were you.

crr6 on January 19, 2011 at 7:52 PM

Oh but I am!

ladyingray on January 19, 2011 at 7:54 PM

Funny cartoon.

http://hillbuzz.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/mike01192011.jpg

Geochelone on January 19, 2011 at 7:49 PM

Anyone listen to that parody on Rush today with Hu and Obama? It made me laugh my butt off.

El_Terrible on January 19, 2011 at 7:54 PM

But the Whitehouse has a video on youtube saying how this will be a job creator!!! /libtard

aikidoka on January 19, 2011 at 7:55 PM

aces

Jeddite on January 19, 2011 at 7:56 PM

Oh but I am!

ladyingray on January 19, 2011 at 7:54 PM

That’s great.

crr6 on January 19, 2011 at 7:56 PM

That’s great.

crr6 on January 19, 2011 at 7:56 PM

You need to prepare your law school self!

ladyingray on January 19, 2011 at 7:57 PM

You’ll pardon me if I’m less than 100% convinced.

Dark-Star on January 19, 2011 at 7:54 PM

Just busy yourself making sammiches…

ladyingray on January 19, 2011 at 7:58 PM

I wouldn’t be so confident about that if I were you.

crr6 on January 19, 2011 at 7:52 PM

As I have already stated, the people of our country will not allow socialized medicine; period end of story. You and your kind are in the minority on this issue. This Obamacare disaster will be torn to shreds over time at the local level, state, and federal.

Keemo on January 19, 2011 at 8:00 PM

Ask the Democrats why they’re blocking the will of the electorate. Over and over.

Make them defend this piece of crap. Get them on record.

Make them say stupid things about the Constitution.

Make them look like the morons they are, and point out that they appointed themselves in charge of the nation’s health insurance and health care delivery, and that they don’t care if you want it or not.

Go on offense.

Good Lt on January 19, 2011 at 7:29 PM

This! Over and over again every day!!!!!!!

Tim Zank on January 19, 2011 at 8:00 PM

Most people were happy with their insurance. Most people without insurance chose not to have insurance (young, moderate income, etc.) A few were sad cases…although many of those mentioned during the Dem campaigned turned out to be false.

First we need good information. This is impossible with the Left/Media complex.

Second we need serious actors on each side of the issue. This is impossible because the Dims have blocked everything not precisely to their liking for 3 decades.

And, the thing precisely to their liking is single payer. Hillary Care forbade CASH transactions between patient and DR. Single Payer. The state is everything, and everything is the state.

The grand compromise that the Left made with the Dims is to install a program that will lead to single payer in 10 or 15 years….per Obama. The fact that this was done in a corrupt anti-democratic way means nothing to these people.

r keller on January 19, 2011 at 8:00 PM

Just busy yourself making sammiches…

ladyingray on January 19, 2011 at 7:58 PM

How about you busy yourself baking pies and cleaning house, instead of trying to play amateur political prophet?

Dark-Star on January 19, 2011 at 8:01 PM

Rep. Ryan’s video is great. The actual cost of Obamacare explained in just 4 minutes. THIS is what some of us were trying to warn the nation about. This is why countless millions attended Tea Party rallies and Town Hall meetings. The lies told to pass this disaster are outright criminal. Had a private firm pulled this crime on its customers/shareholders then its execs would be JAILED!!!!

Yakko77 on January 19, 2011 at 8:02 PM

I thought you were some sort of lawyer proto-type, going to school, or some such. Is this an example of the things that they teach you? Never question, just accept on face value?

betsyz on January 19, 2011 at 7:46 PM

crr6 won’t answer that betsyz. But the answer is “yes”. She is incapable of independent thought. If it is not written down somewhere, it is not for her to decide about it in any way.

BierManVA on January 19, 2011 at 8:04 PM

How about you busy yourself baking pies and cleaning house, instead of trying to play amateur political prophet?

Dark-Star on January 19, 2011 at 8:01 PM

*snort*

I don’t eat pies and I clean my own place. Seems to me like your comment “You’ll pardon me if I’m less than 100% convinced” is you playing “amateur political prophet”.

I’ll give you some ice after you give me my sammich…

ladyingray on January 19, 2011 at 8:05 PM

The number is not enough to over-ride Barry’s veto, even if the repeal can get pass the senate.

bayview on January 19, 2011 at 8:07 PM

El_Terrible on January 19, 2011 at 7:54 PM

Rush has had some great parodies lately. Nice to see as it seems as if they (parodies) were on hiatus for awhile.

I liked the one this last week about sheriff Dumas in AZ: “I’m not a sheriff, but I play one…”

BierManVA on January 19, 2011 at 8:07 PM

The number is not enough to over-ride Barry’s veto, even if the repeal can get pass the senate.

bayview on January 19, 2011 at 8:07 PM

Amend it to every bill from now till 2013.

Inanemergencydial on January 19, 2011 at 8:09 PM

Do you think this bill DREAM ACT has even a remote possibility of becoming law? If yes, how? If not, why do you support its passage?

crr6 on January 19, 2011 at 7:37 PM

angryed on January 19, 2011 at 8:11 PM

Yeah, I doubt it will ever get that far. Not unless Rand, or one of the other new guys does it. Heck, even Coburn is starting to go soft already. These guys just want to get back to the way it used to be: all chummy and collegial and whatnot. They can hardly wait for the SOTU so they can sit next to their Dem friends with their hands in each other’s laps.

WarEagle01 on January 19, 2011 at 8:12 PM

Since the point went about 100 feet over your head, I’ll try to explain it more simply:

Dark-Star on January 19, 2011 at 8:11 PM

So, you really think this is it?

I don’t.

ladyingray on January 19, 2011 at 8:19 PM

As I have already stated, the people of our country will not allow socialized medicine
Keemo on January 19, 2011 at 8:00 PM

Ok. What does that have to do with “Obamacare?”

crr6 on January 19, 2011 at 8:20 PM

How about a knuckle sandwich?

Dark-Star on January 19, 2011 at 8:11 PM

Track each other down. Sounds like a threat.

I will be sure to forward this to the higher ups at HA.

CWforFreedom on January 19, 2011 at 8:21 PM

Ok. What does that have to do with “Obamacare?”

crr6 on January 19, 2011 at 8:20 PM

Now that is rich coming from you who has admitted that you believe this is the stepping stone. Seriously you are so dishonest.

CWforFreedom on January 19, 2011 at 8:22 PM

If the Dems had been smart and not ideological zealots they could have simply corrected the few basic health care coverage and insurance problems (pre-existing conditions, cross-state line insurance, portability of coverage, etc.) and expanded Medicare and Medicaid to umbrella in the most desperate minority of legal U.S. citizens with no coverae at all.

But they wanted the whole hog, and now we have to suffer their anxious squeals as their boondoggled is rationally scaled back to some sanity and affordability and Constitutionality.

profitsbeard on January 19, 2011 at 8:23 PM

Track each other down. Sounds like a threat.

I will be sure to forward this to the higher ups at HA.

CWforFreedom on January 19, 2011 at 8:21 PM

Oh snaps!

crr6 on January 19, 2011 at 8:25 PM

Could some one tell Ann that there has NEVER been a government entitlement that was properly funded, remained funded, and didn’t end up costing Americans billions in higher taxes while the quality of service became dramatically insufficient.

Rovin on January 19, 2011 at 8:25 PM

Oh snaps!

crr6 on January 19, 2011 at 8:25 PM

You bet.

You and DarkStar should get a room .

Tell me again how you don’t think the ultimate goal of Obamacare is not a road to socialized medicine when you have in fact admitted it in the past? Then you dare try challenge someone acting like you never thought that way. YOU ARE SOOOO dishonest. Most lefties are . At least you are not alone.

CWforFreedom on January 19, 2011 at 8:27 PM

just a bunch of hot air.

Dark-Star on January 19, 2011 at 8:11 PM

Really and how did that vote go today? With a little work it may well happen but you are way too smart for the rest of us./

CWforFreedom on January 19, 2011 at 8:29 PM

Could some one tell Ann that there has NEVER been a government entitlement that was properly funded, remained funded, and didn’t end up costing Americans billions in higher taxes while the quality of service became dramatically insufficient.

Rovin on January 19, 2011 at 8:25 PM

No way, you tell her yourself and then be prepared for endless stupid questions.

Good Luck, you’re gonna need it.

Knucklehead on January 19, 2011 at 8:30 PM

I’ve posted these before – so forgive. However, until congress has to abide by the same laws they pass for us, it will never get repealed.

Congressional Reform Act of 2011

The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it. That was in 1971…before computers, before e-mail, before cell phones, etc.

Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took 1 year or less to become the law of the land…all because of public pressure.

I’m asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise.

In three days, most people in The United States of America will have the message. This is one idea that really should be passed around.

Congressional Reform Act of 2011

1. Term Limits.

12 years only, one of the possible options below..

A. Two Six-year Senate terms

B. Six Two-year House terms

C. One Six-year Senate term and three Two-Year House terms

2. No Tenure / No Pension.

A Congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.

3. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security.

All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people.

4. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.

5. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

6. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

7. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.

8. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 1/1/11.

The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen. Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.

If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will only take three days for most people (in the U.S. ) to receive the message. Maybe it is time.

Bambi on January 19, 2011 at 8:31 PM

Crr thanks though for reminding me as I was interrupted at home and almost forgot to hit send on that email to Ed about DarkStar’s threat.

Wow you are good for something.

CWforFreedom on January 19, 2011 at 8:35 PM

CRR weirdly silent about her dishonest games yet has time for “snaps”.Simpleton. Too hilarious. Busted.

CWforFreedom on January 19, 2011 at 8:37 PM

Knucklehead on January 19, 2011 at 8:30 PM

It’s not really that hard if you’re bored and willing to lower your IQ about 50-100 points so you can initiate a coequal conversation. It’s more like entertainment than luck.

Rovin on January 19, 2011 at 8:40 PM

Could some one tell Ann that there has NEVER been a government entitlement that was properly funded, remained funded, and didn’t end up costing Americans billions in higher taxes while the quality of service became dramatically insufficient.

Rovin on January 19, 2011 at 8:25 PM

You need to understand that the Anns and the Crrs DON’T CARE.

CWforFreedom on January 19, 2011 at 8:42 PM

Could some one tell Ann that there has NEVER been a government entitlement that was properly funded, remained funded, and didn’t end up costing Americans billions in higher taxes while the quality of service became dramatically insufficient.

Rovin on January 19, 2011 at 8:25 PM

You are entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The rest is corruption.

pedestrian on January 19, 2011 at 8:44 PM

As I have already stated, the people of our country will not allow socialized medicine
Keemo on January 19, 2011 at 8:00 PM

Ok. What does that have to do with “Obamacare?”

crr6 on January 19, 2011 at 8:20 PM

LOL. This is where crr6 jumps the thread shark.

angryed on January 19, 2011 at 8:46 PM

You need to understand that the Anns and the Crrs DON’T CARE.

CWforFreedom on January 19, 2011 at 8:42 PM

Don’t care, or rely on that?

malclave on January 19, 2011 at 8:48 PM

That’s why I called it entertainment CW. Free amusement by our dear liberal friends is always the best, until the gubnit figurs out how to tax it.

Rovin on January 19, 2011 at 8:48 PM

LOL. This is where crr6 jumps the thread shark.

angryed on January 19, 2011 at 8:46 PM

Strange I put the light on the little cockroach and she scurried away. Hmmmm.She is so dishonest.

CWforFreedom on January 19, 2011 at 8:52 PM

Death panel for Obamacare taking shape.

SouthernGent on January 19, 2011 at 8:56 PM

I can’t help but to think of the combination of “power hungry” and “lazy” the bureaucrats that support bamacare

“power hungry” knowing the control they will have over a major portion of the economy and mostly, being the final say in medicine

“lazy” in the fact they will not spend ten years or more of their life learning the craft

the smart people have to take orders from the power hungry

eff that!

Sonosam on January 19, 2011 at 8:59 PM

I wouldn’t be so confident about that if I were you.

crr6 on January 19, 2011 at 7:52 PM

Well, I am optimistic about ladyingray’s prediction.
However, you may be right.
Bcs after all, SCOTUS does have some members that do their best to railroad the Constitution with their creative interpretations that are nothing more than tyrannical reaches.
And as I have said before, if the states had any cajones, they’d realize that SCOTUS does not have a monopoly on deciding what is & what is not Const.
SCOTUS has often had no problems grabbing more power for the Federal govt via its decisions.
It is nothing more than another arm of that same institution anyway.
Fox guarding henhouse.

Badger40 on January 19, 2011 at 9:00 PM

Could some one tell Ann that there has NEVER been a government entitlement that was properly funded, remained funded, and didn’t end up costing Americans billions in higher taxes while the quality of service became dramatically insufficient.

Rovin on January 19, 2011 at 8:25 PM

You need to understand that the Anns and the Crrs DON’T CARE.

CWforFreedom on January 19, 2011 at 8:42 PM

Of course, the Progs don’t care. If it’s somehow paid for perhaps through runaway inflation, they win. If it is paid for by a raid on 401Ks and IRAs, they win. If it breaks the country a la Cloward-Piven, they win.

slickwillie2001 on January 19, 2011 at 9:05 PM

the Progs don’t care.

slickwillie2001 on January 19, 2011 at 9:05 PM

Progressives are annoyingly stupid.
So many of them are the same morons who agreed with their hero FDR when he referred to Stalin as the cuddly “Uncle Joe”, a mass murderer of millions.
There is no way you can consider those kinds of people sane or normal.

Badger40 on January 19, 2011 at 9:17 PM

As taxpayers continue to push that rock up mountain Harry and his friends at the bottom of the hill better hope those taxpayers don’t run out of calories.

Limerick on January 19, 2011 at 9:21 PM

Nice job by Boehner and the Republicans..:)

Dire Straits on January 19, 2011 at 9:38 PM

Change we can believe in!!!

rockmom on January 19, 2011 at 9:54 PM

Do you think this bill has even a remote possibility of becoming law? If yes, how? If not, why do you support its passage?

crr6 on January 19, 2011 at 7:37 PM

It is about shaping the debate. Within the populace. We need to get every damn politician on record on this Bill. If it gets voted on in Senate and passes, we want The Precedent to sign it or VETO it. If it doesn’t we will ensure the rats lose the majority in the Senate.

We will see how the people react. Ultimately it is “Government of the people”. Agree?

Also this is step 1. WE ARE GOING TO DEFUND THIS.

antisocial on January 19, 2011 at 10:17 PM

Make. Them. OWN. It. ALL.

Make King Cornhusker have to defend it twice!

Make all the vulnerables from the west and south have to defend it twice.

Make The Dingy One have to explain how he was for changing filibuster rules, before he was against them, then went back to being for them, until he had to be against it…

He’s not as quick on his feet as he used to be. Being forced to change positions so quickly in such a short period of time will cause him to do one of two things:

Meltdown, creating popular support to get his wretched hide out of the Senate Majority Leader position.

OR

Flub his lines so badly that he accidentally lets the truth slip out, thus further discrediting both himself and his Senate majority.

It’s called checkmate.

SuperCool on January 19, 2011 at 10:24 PM

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