Change: House repeals ObamaCare, 245-189

posted at 6:53 pm on January 19, 2011 by Allahpundit

Here’s the roll. Just three Democrats voted with the GOP, which may seem surprising in light of the number of Blue Dogs who voted no on O-Care back in March but really isn’t surprising given the new electoral realities they face. Even a Pelosi nemesis as bold as Heath Shuler has taken to calling repeal “immoral,” and Larry Kissell — who voted with the GOP on the test vote a few weeks ago but flipped today — wrote recently that since the bill has no hope in the Senate, it’s not “reality-based.” I encourage you to read this or watch the clip below of Paul Ryan crunching the numbers yesterday for a reminder about which side in this debate is the “reality-based” one.

Ah well. End of the line now, as there’s no way to get it onto the Senate calendar. Or is there?

The House will pass H.R. 2 this week. Once that bill is passed, it will be sent to the Senate for consideration. Once the Senate receives the bill, any Senator can use Rule 14 to object to the second reading of the bill. This procedural objection will “hold at the desk” the House-passed bill and allow the Senate to act on the full repeal measure.

If the bill is referred to committee, it will never get to the Senate floor. This procedural objection by one or a number of Senators will stop the bill from being referred to the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee (HELP). If the bill is referred to committee, there is little to no expectation that the committee will pass the bill, let alone have one hearing on the bill.

Objecting to Rule 14 would hold the bill at the desk of the Senate and would put H.R. 2 on the Senate calendar. This procedure could be done with a letter or call from one Senator to the party leader. This would allow the Senate Majority Leader to commence debate on the matter when he so chooses. It is unlikely that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D–NV) would move to proceed to the bill, yet there is a procedure that any Senator can use to force a debate.

Any Senator can use Rule 22 to commence debate on H.R. 2 if they have held the bill at the desk.

Needless to say, you’re not going to find 13 Senate Democrats to vote with the GOP on cloture even if it did come to the floor and notwithstanding the jitters that centrists are feeling ahead of their 2012 reelection bids. But it’d be sweet to force a vote anyway, just because (as noted at the link above) it would make Democrats squirm at possibly having to invoke the filibuster at a moment when filibuster reform is all the rage among their base. And if the GOP regains a Senate majority in 2012, they could conceivably use reconciliation to break a Democratic filibuster and push a repeal bill through — but it won’t be easy.

For further reading, kindly enjoy this analysis from today’s NYT about how, almost a year later, we still have no idea of how ObamaCare will perform in practice. In a sane world, tremendous uncertainty about the outcome would make it impossible to enact a new, nationwide, massively expensive, possibly unrepealable entitlement. But that’s not our world, is it?


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Wow..I thought more folks would have posted congrats to the House Republicans..???..:)

Dire Straits on January 19, 2011 at 10:33 PM

Ok. What does that have to do with “Obamacare?”

crr6 on January 19, 2011 at 8:20 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Pause…

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Come out of that rat hole.

antisocial on January 19, 2011 at 10:33 PM

That’s what we’re talk’n about!

The senate can dink around all they want let them and the President take the heat, the more they goof off the angrier the public will get.

Fulfilling promises goes a long way.

Speakup on January 19, 2011 at 10:42 PM

Of course, but people did want an end to the practice of taking premiums and then denying coverage.

That was a bit of capitalism run amok!

AnninCA

More like your imagination running amok….as usual.

xblade on January 19, 2011 at 10:44 PM

More like your imagination running amok….as usual.

xblade on January 19, 2011 at 10:44 PM

Too bad the only thing you have to run amok is your mouth, since you’ve long since surrendered your brain to the causes of far-right conservatardism.

Is Obamacare a disaster waiting to happen? Hell yes.

Does that magically negate the shenanigans the insurance companies have been up to? Only in Wingnut World.

Dark-Star on January 19, 2011 at 11:13 PM

MOST EXCELLENT,

looks like Obama got his *SS KICKED DONE GOOD!!

canopfor on January 19, 2011 at 11:19 PM

Too bad the only thing you have to run amok is your mouth, since you’ve long since surrendered your brain to the causes of far-right conservatardism.

Dark-Star on January 19, 2011 at 11:13 PM

Dark-Star:

Well,a ZombieOBamaVoterBot lashs out!

Btw….can you recite one reason why you voted for
Barack the Political Destroyer!!

canopfor on January 19, 2011 at 11:23 PM

In a sane world, tremendous uncertainty about the outcome would make it impossible to enact a new, nationwide, massively expensive, possibly unrepealable entitlement. But that’s not our world, is it?

No, it isn’t.

Great post, Allah.

Missy on January 19, 2011 at 11:37 PM

Btw….can you recite one reason why you voted for
Barack the Political Destroyer!!

canopfor on January 19, 2011 at 11:23 PM

Closing Guantanamo
Keeping unemployment under 8%
Shovel-Ready Jobs
All troops out of Iraq by 2011
Stop the Republicans’ deficit culture
Ending civilian deaths in Pakistan
Promised to use public funding for his campaign
Middle East Peace
End Warrantless Wiretaps
Repeal of the Patriot Act

Repeal of DADT!!!

mankai on January 19, 2011 at 11:41 PM

I want to thank Arkansas’ only dem House Member, and blue dog, Mike Ross for voting FOR repeal of the obamanation’s obamacare…

Gohawgs on January 19, 2011 at 11:58 PM

Just three Democrats voted with the GOP,

That makes the vote 3 times as bipartisan as the one that passed Obamacare. It must be a mandate!!!

There Goes The Neighborhood on January 20, 2011 at 12:36 AM

I HeArT Paul Ryan!!!

(man oh man…I’m almost embarrassed by my man crush!)

:D

Handel on January 20, 2011 at 1:11 AM

Does that magically negate the shenanigans the insurance companies have been up to? Only in Wingnut World.

Dark-Star on January 19, 2011 at 11:13 PM

Yeah, curse those rotten insurance companies and their insane 2.2% profit margin!!!!elevenity!!

CatsGodot on January 20, 2011 at 1:12 AM

And yes!! Congrats to the repubs…and CONTINUE FORTH!!!!

The repeal of obama care is (dare I say it? yes I dare!) is in our CROSSHAIRS!!!

:D

Handel on January 20, 2011 at 1:13 AM

Is it safe to say Dark-Star doesn’t know anything about economics and insurance risk? I’d like him to sit down for a nice chat with an actuary . . .

Ryan Anthony on January 20, 2011 at 1:28 AM

Paul Ryan makes everyone else in the House look like morons.

rickyricardo on January 20, 2011 at 1:31 AM

Bravo Republicans!
We’ve taken the first step toward full repeal and/or DEFUND!
The first step toward saving the union.
Reminds me of Lincoln!

Mark7788 on January 20, 2011 at 1:37 AM

Defund.

AshleyTKing on January 20, 2011 at 2:03 AM

Paul Ryan… RINOOOOOOO. Primary him. He voted for TARP!!! *teeth gnashing* *fist pounding* *full of immature rage*

swamp_yankee on January 20, 2011 at 2:31 AM

THIS is why we sent them there…….Excellent job GOP!!

Next up?

The Pappy Plan
1. Seal the border.

2. 10% across the board spending cuts.

Remind everyone it’s “fair” when the Dems start whining.

You don’t need charts, or 2,000 page bills to restore fiscal sanity. You just need two steps.

PappyD61 on January 20, 2011 at 6:58 AM

Dear GOP,

I’m proud of you. KEEP AT IT!

:)

Indy82 on January 20, 2011 at 7:39 AM

This vote, like General Doolittle’s famous B-25 raid upon Tokyo soon after Pearl Harbor, did little actual damage, but it sure lets them know that we’re coming for them, soon.

Strangely, the genuine mass rallies against the GOP for “destroying” America’s healthcare haven’t materialized – though one would soon expect some yellow busses loaded with paid union goons in purple shirts to show up somewhere sfor the NYT photogniks.

Don L on January 20, 2011 at 8:28 AM

And then when the Senate votes not to repeal on this, the Dems will OWN this beyotch

Goodness, don’t they own it enough already?

Don L on January 20, 2011 at 8:39 AM

Thank you, Rep. Paul Ryan for showing U.S. where to find the smoke and mirrors hidden in Obama Care.

My economic training indicates spending and saving are not words or that can be found in a Thesaurus wherein they have similar meanings or definitions. Thus, any savings found in this monstrosity are immediately offset with spending without any means of recovery.

MSGTAS on January 20, 2011 at 8:41 AM

Wow..I thought more folks would have posted congrats to the House Republicans..???..:)

Dire Straits on January 19, 2011 at 10:33 PM

As*wipe; most of us go directly to the source for such high fives. We’re also not in any mood with any politician to issue lots of atta boys just yet. Much work to do, and we have only just begun. 1 for 1 at the moment… Me, I’ll issue praise in large quantities when the people’s will has been accomplished. I also want to see the investigations start immediately. Criminals must finally be dealt with no matter if they have a (D) or an (R) in front of their name.

Keemo on January 20, 2011 at 8:48 AM

Step 1 complete.

Nice work.

Keep it up.

ConDem on January 20, 2011 at 9:05 AM

I HeArT Paul Ryan!!!

Handel on January 20, 2011 at 1:11 AM

Me, too.

The rhetoric from the floor has flushed out the Democrats and their bogus call for civility.

Can they now sit in their respective areas for the SotU speech?

Fallon on January 20, 2011 at 9:14 AM

Dire Straits on January 19, 2011 at 10:33 PM

My apologies for bad behavior… Woke up on the wrong side of the bed; went back and got out the other side…

Keemo on January 20, 2011 at 9:18 AM

Well done Boehner and House GOP Majority! Well done, indeed.

dczombie on January 20, 2011 at 9:53 AM

Keemo on January 20, 2011 at 9:18 AM

No problem….carry on..:)

PS..I think you will be plesantly suprised in Issa-R(CA)..There will be hearings coming soon..:)

Dire Straits on January 20, 2011 at 10:32 AM

The idea that a gubment will force you to buy health insurance at the point of a gun is laughable.

When they come come for me because I refuse to submit to their plan and also refuse to pay their fine, they’ll have to shoot me. why? Because I chose not to buy health insurance.

They care so much that they’ll storm your house with guns at the ready to insure you have health care.

esnap on January 20, 2011 at 10:33 AM

Do you think this bill has even a remote possibility of becoming law? If yes, how? If not, why do you support its passage?

crr6 on January 19, 2011 at 7:37 PM

Because it forces the Democrats to continually defend Obamacare, which leads to things like SJL’s due process argument, Lewis citing the DoI, Cohen calling the Republicans Nazis, etc.

In other words, putting the Dems on the defensive regarding Obamacare leads to very, very good optics for the Republicans.

Good Solid B-Plus on January 20, 2011 at 11:13 AM

Kudos to the House Republicans for doing one of the things they promised to do. It is an important action but merely a symbolic one.

Now on to tougher chores: Defanging the monster.

EconomicNeocon on January 20, 2011 at 12:21 PM

Grant the dissolution of the ObamaCare monstrosity.

In order to be effective,* I’ve maintained since the ’08 Democrat Washington Majority power monopoly (paved on their mantra for “AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE”) that contrary to efforts to revise the comprehensive reform monster which Pelosi/Reid/Obama created, the conservative legislative members sponsoring their separate health care bills must conference together and produce a minimalist bill that only contains means to lower health care costs, no bells or whistles.

*Just as to effectively campaign, unify efforts upon a solid foundation. First establish the platform prior to promoting personalities/candidates in order to attain the means to effect that platform agenda in governance.

maverick muse on January 20, 2011 at 12:35 PM

well, our elections got us what we wanted sort of. We didnt do enough. Two more years we will now need to wait to get it right.

johnnyU on January 20, 2011 at 3:05 PM

Wow..I thought more folks would have posted congrats to the House Republicans..???..:)

Dire Straits on January 19, 2011 at 10:33 PM

Good job Boehner and co. Keep it up.

labrat on January 20, 2011 at 6:12 PM

“Al-a-ways late.” went the old country song. But just must get in an attaboy to House GOP.

Just remember, Housecritters, one “Oh Sh!t” cancels 10 attaboys.

Caststeel on January 20, 2011 at 9:25 PM

And yet, not a single mention of liberty. Fraud.

Levinite on January 20, 2011 at 10:32 PM

and with a laser focus on jobs and the economy, no nanny state for the US here. also could you please legislate whether or not men can masturbate? I don’t want to be wasting my seed on the ground if it offends your sky god.

Zekecorlain on January 21, 2011 at 10:12 AM

Applause

It matters most they represent the constituents, and fight for the solvency of the nation

To be honest, I thought they might wimp out, to hide themselves for the next election.

This type of act is a confidence builder. People are drowning and they need to know someone has the moxie to fight for them.

If the GOP succeeds in cutting healthcare funding, the nation’s economy might have a chance.

Otherwise consider Greece, which has borrowed so much for heath care it makes up the majority of the national debt. Greece is a non manufacturing nation, as we are fighting to become. How much health care can you pay for taxing olive oil and selling shish kabob to tourists?

entagor on January 21, 2011 at 11:34 PM

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