Cantor to Reid: If you’re so confident ObamaCare repeal will fail in Senate …

posted at 9:30 am on January 19, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

It’s been a while for me, so I’m no longer sure of the protocols of dog dares, but this seems like a jump right to a triple.  Harry Reid has insisted that any attempt to pass a full repeal of ObamaCare in the House would be doomed in the Senate and therefore a waste of time.  In response, Eric Cantor told Reid to put it up for a vote if he feels that confident in the results:

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor isn’t one to hold his feelings back — especially when it comes to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

On Tuesday, the Virginia Republican threw a little more fuel on the fire, suggesting Reid (D-Nev.) was afraid to actually bring up the health care repeal vote in the Senate.

“If Harry Reid is so confident that the repeal vote should die in the Senate then he should bring it up for a vote if he’s so confident he’s got the votes,” Cantor said.

Reid’s spokesman says that the Senate won’t vote on repeal because three-quarters of Americans want the law to stay as it is:

“Not only would repeal not pass, but according to a poll by AP over the weekend, three out of four people don’t want it to,” Reid spokesman Jon Summers said. “Why? Because full repeal means raising taxes on small businesses, reopening the Medicare donut hole, and putting insurance companies back in charge of your health care.”

Actually, if that were the case, then Reid would have no trouble scheduling a vote.  The Senate would spend hours extolling the virtues of ObamaCare and then hold a vote where the House repeal would get widely opposed.  Such a spectacle would cement the spin that the Republican House leadership is radical, out of control, and unrepresentative of the American political consensus.

Reid knows, however, that it’s his Democrats who have alienated the electorate through the passage of ObamaCare — and so does Cantor.  In fact, so do a number of Reid’s colleagues in the Senate, 23 of whom have to face voters next year.  Some, such as Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Jon Tester of Montana, had hoped to spend the 112th Session casting enough conservative votes to get their constituents to forget the ObamaCare vote in 2010.  The last thing many of them need is to be forced to support it again in this session, even with a cloture vote.

Reid can’t afford to schedule a vote on a repeal, because one might actually pass, not because it would get easily defeated.  Barack Obama would then veto it, of course, and there aren’t enough votes to overturn the veto.  But Obama’s veto will make Obama look just as out of touch as those Democrats who want to avoid a second showdown at all costs.


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Major props on the accompanying photo. Excellent.

princetrumpet on January 19, 2011 at 9:32 AM

“I triple dog dare ya!”

Akzed on January 19, 2011 at 9:33 AM

Never play chicken with someone driving a bigger truck than yours…

Sekhmet on January 19, 2011 at 9:34 AM

Reid’s spokesman says that the Senate won’t vote on repeal because three-quarters of Americans want the law to stay as it is

Nice try, Harry. That poll made it clear that most Americans want Obamacare either repealed entirely, repealed and replaced, or have all the bad parts(which is most of the bill) removed. That’s not what I’d call a vote of confidence from the electorate.

Oh, and that poll also undersampled Republicans to an almost laughable extent.

Doughboy on January 19, 2011 at 9:36 AM

I’d like to see this ‘dare and deny’ repeated regularly until November 2012.

Vashta.Nerada on January 19, 2011 at 9:36 AM

Dingy Harry is from Nevada. He knows better than to bet against a man who says he can cut four aces out of a deck of cards.

Akzed on January 19, 2011 at 9:37 AM

Me too VN…..

Excellent pic choice Ed

cmsinaz on January 19, 2011 at 9:38 AM

America’s people overwhelmingly don’t want Obamacare and will get rid of it one way or another… That’s the simple truth Harry.

Keemo on January 19, 2011 at 9:38 AM

Cantor wouldn’t have done this unless he thinks or knows that there is a good chance it would pass in the senate. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Tester was at a local res to announce the settlement for the tribe and that they would be getting big $ from the US. He had nothing to do with the actual settlement but had to appear as if he was responsible. The photo made the front pages.

Kissmygrits on January 19, 2011 at 9:38 AM

OWN IT!!

BigWyo on January 19, 2011 at 9:39 AM

Why attempt to repeal Affordable Health Care?

Rovin on January 19, 2011 at 9:39 AM

ZOMG, IF YOU’RE SO CONFIDENT OBAMA WILL VETO REPEAL, WHY DON’T YOU PASS IT, HARRY REID?? WELL? WHY NOT??

crr6 on January 19, 2011 at 9:39 AM

Turn up the heat….

right2bright on January 19, 2011 at 9:40 AM

Think of it as a vote of confidence in the Obama administration. If Reid is so sure the Senate will stand with Obama, then a simple yes or no vote would prove that. All those democrats who wanted this thing get a second chance to say so publicly, and all those democrats with misgivings get a chance to change their vote.

Just put it to another vote.

Skandia Recluse on January 19, 2011 at 9:41 AM

crr6 on January 19, 2011 at 9:39 AM

Please deign to tell us peons the principle in reason to which you so obliquely appeal.

Akzed on January 19, 2011 at 9:42 AM

Harry Reid is a yellow bellied scaredy cat.

rbj on January 19, 2011 at 9:42 AM

Never play chicken with someone driving a bigger truck than yours…

Sekhmet on January 19, 2011 at 9:34 AM

i doubt cantor will listen.

sesquipedalian on January 19, 2011 at 9:44 AM

The only way republicans lose on this issue is if they fail to repeal it in the one chamber where they have a majority. America knows exactly what republicans face in trying to repeal it, they want them to prove they are willing to do so even if the attempt proves futile for now.

The really bad parts don’t kick in until 2014…I wonder why that is? In 2012 Obama says he will be running on a platform centered around raising taxes. Good luck pal.

Mord on January 19, 2011 at 9:45 AM

It really seems simple, if ObamaCare is sooo great and public loves it, put the GOP on record being against it so the Democrats can use it as a major campaign issue. Take the vote.

WashJeff on January 19, 2011 at 9:46 AM

Richard Prior told a story about a guy who tried to pick a fight with Jim Brown in a bar. The guy’s friends grabbed him and held him back, and told him soto voce, “Man, that’s Jim Brown!”

Jim Brown suggested that the man’s friends let him go, the better to allow him to express himself. The man told his friends, soto voce, “I’ll kill the ************ who turns me loose. Now get me to the door.”

Akzed on January 19, 2011 at 9:47 AM

What drives me crazy is how the dems defend the bill by reading off the three or four reasonable effects of the bill that could not take up more than ten pages of a 2400 page bill. What about all the taxes,commissions and deception in the other 2390 pages?

tim c on January 19, 2011 at 9:48 AM

i doubt cantor will listen.

sesquipedalian on January 19, 2011 at 9:44 AM

You mean like way Democrats and Obama listened to the wishes of the general public when they passed this nightmare? Can we expect Cantor to accept a Cornhusker kickback to get him to “listen”?

Rovin on January 19, 2011 at 9:48 AM

Ooo..it would appear some of those ‘Adult Children’ I keep hearing about have shown up.

BigWyo on January 19, 2011 at 9:50 AM

putting insurance companies back in charge of your health care.”

As opposed to having the GOVERNMENT in charge of my healthcare. With insurance companies, I can move to another one…can’t upgrade to a new gov’t though.

search4truth on January 19, 2011 at 9:50 AM

I’d like to see a vote in the Senate. Let’s put some names to those votes. Lots of dem Senators up in 2012.

Keep it up Cantor.

darwin on January 19, 2011 at 9:51 AM

[Ed]: “NOW it was serious. A double-dog-dare. What else was there but a ‘triple dare you’? And then, the coup de grace of all dares, the sinister triple-dog-dare.”

[Cantor]: “I TRIPLE-dog-dare ya!”

[Ed] “[Cantor] created a slight breach of etiquette by skipping the triple dare and going right for the throat!”

BuckeyeSam on January 19, 2011 at 9:51 AM

Why are companies and unions asking for waivers from this awesomely awesome bill?

WashJeff on January 19, 2011 at 9:52 AM

BuckeyeSam on January 19, 2011 at 9:51 AM

:D

Boehner should bring this up once a month for a vote. Make the Dems OWN the effin’ thing!

ladyingray on January 19, 2011 at 9:52 AM

What drives me crazy is how the dems defend the bill by reading off the three or four reasonable effects of the bill that could not take up more than ten pages of a 2400 page bill. What about all the taxes,commissions and deception in the other 2390 pages?

tim c on January 19, 2011 at 9:48 AM

I can only think of 2 explanations:

1) They truly believe the electorate is so dumb that they won’t notice higher premiums and taxes. Of course, given the mentality of a large chunk of the Democrat base, one can hardly blame these politicians for believing this.

2) They still haven’t read the bill in its entirety. It’s pretty clear they never bothered sifting through the 2000+ page monstrosity before they voted for it. So why would they have bothered looking at it since?

Doughboy on January 19, 2011 at 9:53 AM

To quote the philosopher Mel Brooks: “What’s the matter Col. Sanders….you Chicken?”

search4truth on January 19, 2011 at 9:54 AM

The Bush tax cuts supposedly destroyed the economy, yet democrats renewed them for two years…..in order to save the economy. I still want to know who had the brilliant idea to let the rates expire in 2012, just in time for the presidential election. I’d buy them a beer.

Now they are saying that repeal of obamacare will destroy the economy.

Mord on January 19, 2011 at 9:55 AM

Let’s hope that within the next three years Obama is stammering with fury as he cradles the shattered remains of his signature legislation just as Ralphie’s dad cradled the shattered remains of his major award.

Obamacare = the leg lamp.

BuckeyeSam on January 19, 2011 at 9:55 AM

i doubt cantor will listen.

sesquipedalian on January 19, 2011 at 9:44 AM

Cantor can’t hear you over his big truck engine…

ladyingray on January 19, 2011 at 9:55 AM

Maybe I am just naive, but the Republicans need to hit the Senate with a one-two punch.

First vote for the repeal of Obamacare, but immediately after that bring forth the bills addressing the issues that Americans want to see addressed such as the pre-existing conditions clause, children on policies till age 26, close the Medicare donut hole until a better more permanent solution can be found and send them to the Senate as well for a vote.

Republicans have got to show that they are serious about addressing some of the issues and not just playing into the hands of the Dems who will continue to paint them as the party of no.

Just A Grunt on January 19, 2011 at 9:55 AM

Reid’s spokesman says that the Senate won’t vote on repeal because three-quarters of Americans want the law to stay as it is:

Fine, if Reid really thinks that’s true then a vote in the Senate should favor democrats … right Reid?

darwin on January 19, 2011 at 9:56 AM

The reason Reid will do everything possible to keep it from coming to a vote (note, he can’t stop it from happening if the GOP forces the issue: http://www.redstate.com/brian_d/2011/01/18/repeal-of-obamacare-in-the-senate-how-to-do-it/), is the same as the reason Cantor wants the vote to happen.

And it has nothing to do with passage.

Reid is right. It will fail in the Senate.

But Reid doesn’t want politically vulnerable Democrats to have to vote for it again. He has to do everything to stop that from happening.

Cantor does want those same politically vulnerable Democrats to vote for it again, so candidates can use it against them.

Chris of Rights on January 19, 2011 at 9:56 AM

Find a poll, which is easy, showing that a majority of Americans don’t want this healthcare shiite sandwich and tell Reid it’s time to vote according to the people.

Reid is the senate’s version of crr6, they like polling data until it goes against them, then it’s all bunk.

Bishop on January 19, 2011 at 9:56 AM

Funny how Reid is suddenly intersted in the will of the people.

We know what’s best for you so we’ll pass it and you’ll learn to love it. /Dem

John Deaux on January 19, 2011 at 9:57 AM

BuckeyeSam on January 19, 2011 at 9:55 AM

“Not a fingah!”

Akzed on January 19, 2011 at 9:57 AM

Why are companies and unions asking for waivers from this awesomely awesome bill?

WashJeff on January 19, 2011 at 9:52 AM

Easy. They don’t want to be selfish. Instead, they want to ensure that its awesome awesomeness is redistributed to those who don’t receive a waiver. Obamacare is just that awesome. Really, it is….

BuckeyeSam on January 19, 2011 at 9:57 AM

Why are companies and unions asking for waivers from this awesomely awesome bill?
WashJeff on January 19, 2011 at 9:52 AM

Better yet why are they being GIVEN waivers? According to Sheila Jackson Lee(D-Moronville) this is a direct Constitutional issue and will save lives. Why do the waiver-granters hate the Constitution and want innocent people dead?

Bishop on January 19, 2011 at 9:59 AM

“Not a fingah!”

Akzed on January 19, 2011 at 9:57 AM

Taps!

In truth, this just goes to show that few of life’s difficulties can’t be resolved by a review of the wisdom found in A Christmas Story.

For example, what do you do to bullies like liberals, the MSM, Scott Farkus, and Grover Dill?

You get up the nerve to kick their a**.

BuckeyeSam on January 19, 2011 at 10:01 AM

I can see it now. Reid with his tongue stuck to a pole, crying like a baby! ROFL!!!

capejasmine on January 19, 2011 at 10:04 AM

I read an interesting article yesterday suggesting that if the House passes a repeal bill, the real reson to support that even if Reid refuses to vote on it is that the courts will no longer give deference to the Congress in examining the constitutionality of the law. Courts generally do not like to overturn laws passed by both houses of Congress. But on the Obamacare suits, the SCOTUS can claim that it is the current House which most closely repersents the people, and they have expressed through the ballot box that they want the law overturned.

rockmom on January 19, 2011 at 10:05 AM

“Not a fingah!”

Akzed on January 19, 2011 at 9:57 AM
Taps!

In truth, this just goes to show that few of life’s difficulties can’t be resolved by a review of the wisdom found in A Christmas Story.

For example, what do you do to bullies like liberals, the MSM, Scott Farkus, and Grover Dill?

You get up the nerve to kick their a**.

BuckeyeSam on January 19, 2011 at 10:01 AM

ROFLMAO!!! I love that movie!!! I spent much of Christmas watching it. LOL

capejasmine on January 19, 2011 at 10:05 AM

The House needs to pass a budget with ZERO funding for anything dealing with Obamacare. Let Reid put his money where his mouth is.

SouthernGent on January 19, 2011 at 10:11 AM

Every Republican that speaks about Obamacare should always include this phrase:

The health care law, which was almost 3000 pages and passed against the will of the public, in the middle of the night, on Christmas Eve,….

TugboatPhil on January 19, 2011 at 10:11 AM

None of this matters, save the potential impact on upcoming elections. The whole law will be declared unconstitutional by the United States Supreme Court.

steebo77 on January 19, 2011 at 10:12 AM

Cantor & all Repubs need to drive home the fact that, by prohibiting debate & suppressing even an up/down vote on this issue, Harry Reid & the Prez are attempting to deprive the American people of their right to be heard through their elected representatives in Washington.

And failing that, Repubs should introduce a resolution to officially change the name of the party of Reid, Pelosi & Obama to the Anti-Democrats.

leilani on January 19, 2011 at 10:12 AM

rockmom on January 19, 2011 at 10:05 AM

Arte Johnson peeks out from behind a shrub and says, “Vedddy inteddestinggggg.

BuckeyeSam on January 19, 2011 at 10:14 AM

crr6 on January 19, 2011 at 9:39 AM

Lord, you’re up early. Mommy having the basement cleaned today?

BacaDog on January 19, 2011 at 10:16 AM

Did anyone hear former senator Bill Frist on the possible repeal? Laura Ingraham just played a clip and he sounded like a stuff animal salesman.

Cindy Munford on January 19, 2011 at 10:17 AM

three out of four

Its just three of the four dentists who recommended Trident.

Greek Fire on January 19, 2011 at 10:25 AM

The importance of the health care bill is humungous … sorta like the effects of Global Warming … that we can’t be hemmed in by old fashioned concerns like voting and the will of the people. This really needs to be handled in the new sophisticated Chinese method of determining what is best for the country. See Andrew Sullivan, Dr. Jim Hansen NASA, and other Administration officials for confirmation.

odannyboy on January 19, 2011 at 10:25 AM

Awesome photo!

rightallthetime on January 19, 2011 at 10:30 AM

Did anyone hear former senator Bill Frist on the possible repeal? Laura Ingraham just played a clip and he sounded like a stuff animal salesman.

Cindy Munford on January 19, 2011 at 10:17 AM

Sort of explains why we are where we are now, doesn’t it. We also mustn’t forget Denny Hastert.

a capella on January 19, 2011 at 10:30 AM

WHY OBAMA IS SCARY SKINNY – HE HAS WORMS
Why is Obama so skinny, well the National Enquirer thinks “he’s secretly battling stomach parasites!’

Nearly Nobody on January 19, 2011 at 10:41 AM

Eric Cantor told Reid to put it up for a vote if he feels that confident in the results:

Heh. Ed’s right. Eric is saying, “c’mon smartass! I triple dog dare ya!”

perfect usage of a great movie one-liner.

well played sir. very well played.

ted c on January 19, 2011 at 10:42 AM

For example, what do you do to bullies like liberals, the MSM, Scott Farkus, and Grover Dill?

You get up the nerve to kick their a**.

BuckeyeSam on January 19, 2011 at 10:01 AM

yep, there is a lot of life’s wisdom wrapped up in that movie.

IN FACT, get this. No sh!t, there we were, my wife and I had just left a Christmas party and we’re laughing to ourselves about the shenanigans witnessed at the party as we rolled up to a T-intersection. As I pulled to a stop, my wife’s eyes lit up and she burst out laughing….for lo and behold ahead of us, what stood in glorious and magnificent beauty in the front window directly ahead of us but the penultimate of grand prizes….yes, you guessed it, the LEG LAMP itself…..

I about hit a light pole I was laughing so hard.

ted c on January 19, 2011 at 10:46 AM

Why is Obama so skinny, well the National Enquirer thinks “he’s secretly battling stomach parasites!’

Nearly Nobody on January 19, 2011 at 10:41 AM

I think they got the story wrong… he and Mooch-chelle are the parasites.

teke184 on January 19, 2011 at 10:47 AM

And you chose that photo to put on the main page, Captain Ed, because Cantor followed up with Futurama‘s Bender’s quote of “lick my frozen metal ass”?

andycanuck on January 19, 2011 at 10:51 AM

Cry, baby, cry.

Lily on January 19, 2011 at 10:51 AM

….and putting insurance companies back in charge of your health care.”

As opposed to….the government?

tgharris on January 19, 2011 at 10:53 AM

Why is Obama so skinny, well the National Enquirer thinks “he’s secretly battling stomach parasites!’

Nearly Nobody on January 19, 2011 at 10:41 AM

If we have to suffer from parasites so should he:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41142512/ns/politics-white_house/

darwin-t on January 19, 2011 at 10:55 AM

Looks like Obamacare was rammed down our throats to benefit only 8,000 people! Where are All the Sick People Who Can’t Get Insurance?

slickwillie2001 on January 19, 2011 at 11:23 AM

Republicans have got to show that they are serious about addressing some of the issues and not just playing into the hands of the Dems who will continue to paint them as the party of no.

Just A Grunt on January 19, 2011 at 9:55 AM

Michelle Bachman was just on Fox announcing that she will introduce a bill allowing purchase of health insurance across state lines tomorrow.

Trafalgar on January 19, 2011 at 11:24 AM

Anyone have a link to the poll?

nukemhill on January 19, 2011 at 11:26 AM

Never mind. Found it.

nukemhill on January 19, 2011 at 11:28 AM

uh-oh…….someone brought a gun to Harry’s knife-fight!!

Tim_CA on January 19, 2011 at 11:29 AM

As I’m reading, a Democrat congressman is on Fox explaining how obamacare sent out $250 checks to “help” seniors with the donut hole. He staid “how are seniors going to get by after a repeal”.Unfortunately my father had to pay out $2300 for Nov. & Dec. last year. Let’s not forget the added federal and, as an Illinois resident, state taxes. These people just don’t get it.

makaput on January 19, 2011 at 11:42 AM

Okay–but how then do we get it undone if at every turn some Democrat is going to oppose it’s demise with lies and self protection? Surely there must be a way. Perhaps some manipulation of the funding mechanism will doom it to failure? It must be repealed before it ends up being the stifling mess that SS is.

jeanie on January 19, 2011 at 11:43 AM

“If Harry Reid is so confident that the repeal vote should die in the Senate then he should bring it up for a vote if he’s so confident he’s got the votes,” Cantor said.

We’re supposed to trust Harry? Don’t think so! I agree with Cantor on this. LET THE VOTING BEGIN!

TN Mom on January 19, 2011 at 11:44 AM

What is this mythical poll they are referring to ?

instugator on January 19, 2011 at 11:47 AM

I just hope the repubs keep this new-found spine. We the people will just have to keep on them and keep reinforcing ‘em. Repeal the dam thing.

Mirimichi on January 19, 2011 at 11:48 AM

This is getting beyond silly. Let’s see some spine Senate GOP. Make Reid move.

itzWicks on January 19, 2011 at 11:56 AM

This is off thread but …

“I am going to go back to Washington tomorrow and meet with the President of China. He is a dictator. He can do a lot of things through the form of government they have. Maybe I shouldn’t have said dictator, but they have a different type of government than we have and that is an understatement,” Reid said.

Reid is probably functionally correct with calling Hu a dictator but you’ve got to ask …

Did Reid get so caught up in the rhetoric of DC that he forgot that the President is of his same party ?

I was always told the the Senate is the chamber of “statesmen.” When the Majority Leader of the Senate forgets how to be a “statesmen” you really have got to wonder what is going through their minds.

J_Crater on January 19, 2011 at 12:11 PM

The kid in the picture looks like Hugh Hewitt. Not the one stuck to the pole.

dkmonroe on January 19, 2011 at 12:17 PM

“I am going to go back to Washington tomorrow and meet with the President of China. He is a dictator. He can do a lot of things through the form of government they have. Maybe I shouldn’t have said dictator, but they have a different type of government than we have and that is an understatement,” Reid said.

The slip was, Reid probably wasn’t being critical when he said Hu was a dictator. He’s more likely envious of the power.

dkmonroe on January 19, 2011 at 12:20 PM

I have major trouble believing a poll that says that most people who don’t like a particular law also don’t want it repealed. What kind of idiocy is that? I detect the distinct foul odor of mainstream media BS in that one.

Edouard on January 19, 2011 at 12:24 PM

Cantor to Reid:

Suck it P*ssy

fossten on January 19, 2011 at 12:29 PM

Barack Obama would then veto it, of course, and there aren’t enough votes to overturn the veto. But Obama’s veto will make Obama look just as out of touch as those Democrats who want to avoid a second showdown at all costs.

Would this really be a problem though? Let’s face it, the people who don’t know the connection between Obama and Obamacare aren’t going to magically figure it out just because he shoves it down their throats a second time.

logis on January 19, 2011 at 1:13 PM

If the Senate doesn’t pass the total repeal then I would like the House to pass and send over a bill repealing all of the waivers given out to a select few including all of congress and the clowns who actually wrote the bill in the first place.

Just like Instapundit says about believing in AGW “when the people who say it’s bad act like it’s bad then I’ll believe” Then I will believe the healthcare bill as it stands now is good for the country.

Forgive me on butchering Instapundits actual quote but you get the point.

multiuseless on January 19, 2011 at 2:19 PM

Where’s Flick?

ya2daup on January 19, 2011 at 3:46 PM