Report: Lieberman to announce retirement tomorrow

posted at 4:27 pm on January 18, 2011 by Allahpundit

The Joementum’s been steadily slowing since Gore put him on the ticket and now he’s all but unelectable even in a deep blue state. No official word yet on his plans, but this site claims to have heard through the grapevine that he’s bowing out tomorrow and Politico’s now hearing the same.

Look at it this way: When he speaks at the next Republican convention in 2012, he won’t have to hold back.

Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman — deeply unpopular with voters in his home state — is unlikely to seek reelection, a knowledgeable source tells POLITICO ahead of the senator’s announcement on Wednesday…

“After many thoughtful conversations with family and friends over the last several months, Sen. Lieberman made a decision about his future over the holidays which he plans to announce on Wednesday,” said Erika Masonhall, a Lieberman spokeswoman who declined to comment further…

Lieberman’s announcement comes on the heels of Tuesday’s declaration by Susan Bysiewicz, the former Connecticut secretary of state, that she plans to enter the 2012 Democratic primary field for Lieberman’s Senate seat. Rep. Chris Murphy also has expressed interest in the Democratic primary…

A Public Policy Polling survey conducted in late October put Lieberman’s approval rating among Connecticut voters at 33 percent.

PPP has a new post out revisiting its October numbers in light of this afternoon’s news. In 2006 he won with a majority of independents and massive support from Republicans. His standing among both groups has collapsed as foreign policy has faded as an issue, and with Linda McMahon possibly ready to jump in again and tea partiers eager to galvanize conservatives behind one of their own, there’s really no way to rebuild it. Essentially, he’d have to win a true three-way race, Murkowski-style, instead of the de facto two-man general election that took place between him and Ned Lamont four years ago. With his approval rating at 33 percent and the Democratic nominee likely to be a mainstream pol who’s acceptable to most of the state’s voters, he’d probably end up squeezed out in the general a la Crist than an upset winner a la Murky. In fact, the only real reason to run would be to siphon off votes from the Democrat and thereby tilt the race to the GOP. Which, given the endless bitterness between Liebs and the left, isn’t quite as far-fetched as it should be.

That makes two Democratic retirements in the span of about six hours. Unlike Conrad’s, this one almost certainly won’t end with a GOP pick-up, but having Lieberman in the Senate for the next two years and more unconcerned than ever with pleasing progressives means he could end up flipping our way on some key votes. Joementum! Meanwhile, with retirement questions are swirling on the Republican side too, Lugar reiterated today that he’s running and Hatch continues to talk tough despite coming in third in a hypothetical three-way race in Utah. (Huntsman leads with 48 percent, with Jason Chaffetz a distant second and then Hatch third.) Remember, per what happened to Bob Bennett last year, that only the top two finishers in Utah’s Republican caucus advance to a primary. If Huntsman and Chaffetz jumped in and these numbers held, Hatch would be gone as quickly as Bennett was.

Exit question: What’s the next Democratic shoe to drop? Smart money’s on Ben Nelson!


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Ah, crud. >_<

Emily M. on January 18, 2011 at 4:29 PM

Bye

MeatHeadinCA on January 18, 2011 at 4:31 PM

The DSCC better have a bloated banka account for 2012, they have their work cut out for defending all those seats. They will also have to compete with Obama’s $1B campaign for funds.

WashJeff on January 18, 2011 at 4:32 PM

Starting early …

What’s that thrid one bows out … ?

tarpon on January 18, 2011 at 4:32 PM

Please – replace all the OLD WHITE MEN – with young conservative WOMEN !!!!

jake-the-goose on January 18, 2011 at 4:32 PM

Ah, crud. >_<

Emily M. on January 18, 2011 at 4:29 PM

Don’t feel too bad. One less Dem we have to defeat.

gryphon202 on January 18, 2011 at 4:32 PM

So, are there any conservatives left in CT?

Iblis on January 18, 2011 at 4:32 PM

Exit question: What’s the next Democratic shoe to drop? Smart money’s on Ben Nelson!

Bennie’s staring down the barrel of a gun, if you’ll excuse the hateful rhetoric. I assume he’s already got his lobbying consultantship in place and ready to roll.

a capella on January 18, 2011 at 4:33 PM

Exit question: What’s the next Democratic shoe to drop? Smart money’s on Ben Nelson!

chicken… counting… hatching….

upinak on January 18, 2011 at 4:33 PM

joe go into the light…it’s ok to vote with the Rs

cmsinaz on January 18, 2011 at 4:34 PM

but having Lieberman in the Senate for the next two years and more unconcerned than ever with pleasing progressives means he could end up flipping our way on some key votes.

He may wind up being a great asset to us in the runup to 2012. Give us some soundbites Joe!

Kataklysmic on January 18, 2011 at 4:34 PM

If it starts getting any worse than this, with a steady stream of democrats getting out of Dodge, people are going to start asking, “What do they know that we don’t?”

Skandia Recluse on January 18, 2011 at 4:35 PM

Second look at Ned Lamont?

James on January 18, 2011 at 4:35 PM

GOP has a genuine solid chance for a pick-up.

Robert_Paulson on January 18, 2011 at 4:35 PM

rats.

saw the headline and got all happy.

but it’s the wrong Lieberman in the wrong country.

audiculous on January 18, 2011 at 4:36 PM

The old Guard are leaving the Senate to be lobbyists.

bye.

portlandon on January 18, 2011 at 4:36 PM

If Hunstsman wins, conservatives will be longing for the good old days of Hatch.

BuzzCrutcher on January 18, 2011 at 4:36 PM

Also: it seems obvious to me that Reid/Schumer/Murray and the DSCC gave Dem Senators an ultimatum to get in or out of their races early in the cycle.

Robert_Paulson on January 18, 2011 at 4:37 PM

Does any one think McMahon could run again with a shot of winning?

I thought she said that she wasn’t “going away” I assumed she’d be running again any way.

Jim T on January 18, 2011 at 4:37 PM

I’d rather Connecticut give us a true liberal Democrat than a chameleon c**k-tease.

Jim-Rose on January 18, 2011 at 4:37 PM

Another victim of Palin/Limbaugh/Tea Party/Conservative Talk Radio hate speech.

Stop it, haters!

trapeze on January 18, 2011 at 4:38 PM

Exit question: What’s the next Democratic shoe to drop? Smart money’s on Ben Nelson!

“These things always come in threes.”
- Christine O’Donnell

steebo77 on January 18, 2011 at 4:38 PM

He kicked the Kos Kidz ass when it was needed.

Thanks, Joe.

Bruno Strozek on January 18, 2011 at 4:39 PM

Here’s yer hat, what’s yer hurry?

Akzed on January 18, 2011 at 4:40 PM

Jodi Rell could win. But with Obama on the ticket she may be the only one.

swamp_yankee on January 18, 2011 at 4:40 PM

This is a good news / bad news situation.

By this, I mean that Vince McMahon is more than willing to throw a lot of his family’s money behind Linda if she wants to run again.

They may not win the seat, depending on the opposing candidate, but they’re sure going to drain a lot of Dem money from the field in order to keep that seat blue.

teke184 on January 18, 2011 at 4:41 PM

That makes two Democratic retirements in the span of about six hours. Unlike Conrad’s, this one almost certainly won’t end with a GOP pick-up

You got that right. I live in Conn…this is sad news. The blue-bots here will most certainly vote in another corruption-ready liberal Dem. Cripes.

JetBoy on January 18, 2011 at 4:41 PM

I hope Peter Schiff gets the seat… If he wants to run again.

ebrawer on January 18, 2011 at 4:41 PM

Unless Huntsman is able to change our convention/primary system before 2012 he doesn’t stand a chance

SaintGeorgeGentile on January 18, 2011 at 4:42 PM

Man Ben can’t even eat a Pizza :-)

antisocial on January 18, 2011 at 4:42 PM

I’m sure I disagree with you on the vast majority of issues Senator, but thanks for standing up for our efforts in Iraq.

tgharris on January 18, 2011 at 4:42 PM

Hey Joe, flip over to the good side and flip the voters in CT the bird.

Wade on January 18, 2011 at 4:43 PM

Liebs primaries Obama?

ThePrez on January 18, 2011 at 4:43 PM

You got that right. I live in Conn…this is sad news. The blue-bots here will most certainly vote in another corruption-ready liberal Dem. Cripes.

JetBoy on January 18, 2011 at 4:41 PM

It’s certainly likely to happen, but there are two hitches – first, Blumenthal was the most popular guy in your state, and he’s already in the Senate. Second, while Obama’s going to win CT running away in 2012, there’s no way in hell he’s going to have time to run interference for the nominee like he did last year.

McMahon, if she’s willing to flood the zone again, has got a shot. Not a great shot, but a shot nonetheless.

KingGold on January 18, 2011 at 4:45 PM

I can see him being in the cabinet if there’s a GOP president elected in 2012.

Mark1971 on January 18, 2011 at 4:45 PM

Don’t feel too bad. One less Dem we have to defeat.

gryphon202 on January 18, 2011 at 4:32 PM

But we won’t win that seat. We’ll end up with someone way more liberal than Lieberman…

Emily M. on January 18, 2011 at 4:46 PM

Maybe we can FINALLY see the end of Republicans claiming the love the guy and wanting him to become a Republican? He is right on ONE issue. The war. On EVERYTHING else he is an extremely left-wing liberal.

Warner Todd Huston on January 18, 2011 at 4:47 PM

McMahon, if she’s willing to flood the zone again, has got a shot. Not a great shot, but a shot nonetheless.

KingGold on January 18, 2011 at 4:45 PM

I think she’s got a decent shot between the money and putting on a respectable performance in 2010.

Having people unify behind you early makes it easier to mount an offensive against a candidate who may not have statewide appeal like Blumenthal did.

teke184 on January 18, 2011 at 4:48 PM

That’s a shame. I disagree with him on a LOT of policy, but I LOVE that he is honest about his positions.

JustTruth101 on January 18, 2011 at 4:48 PM

I will miss his energetic speeches! /sarc

I wish DICK Lugar would join the retirement club.

search4truth on January 18, 2011 at 4:49 PM

But we won’t win that seat. We’ll end up with someone way more liberal than Lieberman…

Emily M. on January 18, 2011 at 4:46 PM

The Democratic Party is turning into a minority, extremist party. They are poisonous and corrupt … I say they should nominate Marx in CT… appease their loony base.

MeatHeadinCA on January 18, 2011 at 4:50 PM

If it starts getting any worse than this, with a steady stream of democrats getting out of Dodge, people are going to start asking, “What do they know that we don’t?”

Skandia Recluse on January 18, 2011 at 4:35 PM

My thoughts exactly – my gut tells me that these guys know that the economy won’t improve significantly by the time 2012 rolls around and could be markedly worse. Also, they probably know that the political landscape won’t be kind to them in the next cycle and that Obama’s coat tails may be considerably shorter and more ragged than in 2008. You don’t announce this early unless you know that your chances are pretty much zero for reelection.

volnation on January 18, 2011 at 4:50 PM

But we won’t win that seat. We’ll end up with someone way more liberal than Lieberman…

Emily M. on January 18, 2011 at 4:46 PM

Please, not Ted Kennedy, Jr! That would be worse than Lamont!

steebo77 on January 18, 2011 at 4:51 PM

Exit question: What’s the next Democratic shoe to drop? Smart money’s on Ben Nelson!
==============================

Queen – ‘Another One Bites the Dust’

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE&ob=av3em

canopfor on January 18, 2011 at 4:52 PM

Has some LSM goon stuck a mic in Sarah’s face and asked her why she made jomentum quit?

lukespapa on January 18, 2011 at 4:53 PM

Yeah, I have to give Joe credit, he seems to be one of the few honest guys in DC. I think he’s wrong a lot on his positions, but I think he honestly believed he was doing the right thing, as opposed to so many who would sell their constituents out in a heartbeat for the next shady deal. And ya have to give the guy a LOT of credit for standing up to the hardcore leftist antiwar crowd when it counted. Yes he was liberal, but just imagine what will replace him up there in Connecticut…scary!

BadMojo on January 18, 2011 at 4:54 PM

On EVERYTHING else he is an extremely left-wing liberal.

Warner Todd Huston on January 18, 2011 at 4:47 PM

Not true. On health care, he was a crony capitalist, which is how the public option and Medicare buy-in got killed.

KingGold on January 18, 2011 at 4:55 PM

But we won’t win that seat. We’ll end up with someone way more liberal than Lieberman…

Emily M. on January 18, 2011 at 4:46 PM

I don’t care if we win that seat, as long as we win enough seats. Republicans should really stop behaving like losers and start behaving like the winners they can and should be.

gryphon202 on January 18, 2011 at 4:56 PM

Don’t count out a Republican win. Massachusetts did elect Scott Brown. Sure, conservatives are not enthralled by him, but he is better than the alternative. It will be difficult for the Republicans, but Scott Brown proved it’s not impossible.

hadsil on January 18, 2011 at 4:56 PM

Queen – ‘Another One Bites the Dust’

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE&ob=av3em

canopfor on January 18, 2011 at 4:52 PM

hey hey

cmsinaz on January 18, 2011 at 4:56 PM

Exit question: What’s the next Democratic shoe to drop? Smart money’s on Ben Nelson!
==============================

Dorgan(D)?

canopfor on January 18, 2011 at 4:58 PM

rats.

saw the headline and got all happy.

but it’s the wrong Lieberman in the wrong country.

audiculous on January 18, 2011 at 4:36 PM

Lieberman leaving in Israel would change nothing as Netanyahu agrees with him. On the other hand, losing Lieberman in this country could mean another blue state liberal that has our military funding in his gunsights. The Anti-Ballistic Missile systems have shown signs of being effective, expect the left to do everything they can to cut off their funding including claiming the new treaty with Russia requires it.

KW64 on January 18, 2011 at 4:59 PM

canopfor on January 18, 2011 at 4:52 PM
================
hey hey

cmsinaz on January 18, 2011 at 4:56 PM

cmsinaz:The Great Democrat Exodus:)

canopfor on January 18, 2011 at 4:59 PM

Exit question:

Max Baucus

Vashta.Nerada on January 18, 2011 at 5:00 PM

cmsinaz:The Great Democrat Exodus:)

canopfor on January 18, 2011 at 4:59 PM

me likey
:)

cmsinaz on January 18, 2011 at 5:00 PM

Exit question: What’s the next Democratic shoe to drop?

Lindsey Graham?

MeatHeadinCA on January 18, 2011 at 5:00 PM

Don’t let the door hit you in the ………

lilium on January 18, 2011 at 5:01 PM

Dorgan(D)?

canopfor on January 18, 2011 at 4:58 PM

Already gone.

Max Baucus

Vashta.Nerada on January 18, 2011 at 5:00 PM

Not up until 2014.

steebo77 on January 18, 2011 at 5:02 PM

Lindsey Graham?

MeatHeadinCA on January 18, 2011 at 5:00 PM

Ahaha. I think with Lindsey more than one shoe will finally drop. ;)

Emily M. on January 18, 2011 at 5:02 PM

Ahaha. I think with Lindsey more than one shoe will finally drop. ;)

Emily M. on January 18, 2011 at 5:02 PM

I hope. I really find the man revolting …

MeatHeadinCA on January 18, 2011 at 5:04 PM

Exit question:

Ben Nelson is a good bet, though it could also be Jim Webb.

Apart from vulnerable Dems, Daniel Akaka will probably be retiring this cycle, too.

steebo77 on January 18, 2011 at 5:05 PM

Exit question: What’s the next Democratic shoe to drop?

Lindsey Graham?

MeatHeadinCA on January 18, 2011 at 5:00 PM

No, no, no, he meant Democratic, not “Democratic”.

dmh0667 on January 18, 2011 at 5:06 PM

Daniel Akaka will probably be retiring this cycle, too.

steebo77 on January 18, 2011 at 5:05 PM

It would be cool to see Djou get that seat, but that would be a hard fight…

MeatHeadinCA on January 18, 2011 at 5:07 PM

Kohl is in his eighties too. WI is trending red and the GOP bench is getting deep.

swamp_yankee on January 18, 2011 at 5:07 PM

No, no, no, he meant Democratic, not “Democratic”.

dmh0667 on January 18, 2011 at 5:06 PM

Sorry, I couldn’t tell the difference. Every time I see Graham, I see some donkey mounting him…

MeatHeadinCA on January 18, 2011 at 5:08 PM

50 Democrat seats in the Senate
50 Democrat seats
You take one down, pass it around,
49 Democrat seats in the Senate

BobMbx on January 18, 2011 at 5:10 PM

It would be cool to see Djou get that seat, but that would be a hard fight…

MeatHeadinCA on January 18, 2011 at 5:07 PM

We chatted about this in an earlier thread. Linda Lingle’s probably going to run, but I don’t think she has a chance in hell of winning. Obama’s going to win that state three-to-one without even trying, and Lingle’s going to lose no matter what kind of campaign she runs. Hawai’i just loves its favorite son a bit too much.

KingGold on January 18, 2011 at 5:10 PM

Dodd, Dorgan and Ritter

to retire as Democrats face difficult midterm election year
===============================

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/06/AR2010010602543.html

canopfor on January 18, 2011 at 5:11 PM

Actually, Kohl will be 77. But it could be a tough race for a guy whose next term will end when he is 83.

swamp_yankee on January 18, 2011 at 5:13 PM

cmsinaz:The Great Democrat Exodus:)

canopfor on January 18, 2011 at 4:59 PM
============
me likey
:)

cmsinaz on January 18, 2011 at 5:00 PM

cmsinaz:I shamelessly ripped it from a headline I seen
google hunting!:)

canopfor on January 18, 2011 at 5:13 PM

Tick-tock, tick-tock,…

And my prediction that this will be Murkowski’s last term in the Senate grows more feasible with each passing day…

Winning one election cycle as an independent (ala Lieberman and Murkowski) is easy enough when you catch your opponents unawares… getting re-elected when they have had all the time to come up with a good strategy, on the other hand, borders on the impossible.

TheRightMan on January 18, 2011 at 5:14 PM

Dorgan(D)?

canopfor on January 18, 2011 at 4:58 PM
============
Already gone.

steebo77 on January 18, 2011 at 5:02 PM

steebo:D*mmitt,hehe!:)

canopfor on January 18, 2011 at 5:15 PM

What’s the next Democratic shoe to drop?

Someone else beat me to it, but Bill Nelson in Florida may change his mind about running again. And Jim Webb in Virginia won by the slimmest of majorities last time.

SlaveDog on January 18, 2011 at 5:16 PM

Don’t care if he is a blue dog or a only-sorta blue dog.

Joe you have integrity. There is a foxhole available anytime for a you should you need one.

Limerick on January 18, 2011 at 5:16 PM

Everyone’s running from the vicious progressives that have taken over the democrat party.

darwin on January 18, 2011 at 5:16 PM

cmsinaz:I shamelessly ripped it from a headline I seen
google hunting!:)

canopfor on January 18, 2011 at 5:13 PM

i won’t tell :)

cmsinaz on January 18, 2011 at 5:16 PM

Meanwhile……

as Hopey Titanic sails through ice fields,
with retiring Dems dodging Icebergs….

canopfor on January 18, 2011 at 5:17 PM

Everyone’s running from the vicious progressives that have taken over the democrat party.

darwin on January 18, 2011 at 5:16 PM

indeed

cmsinaz on January 18, 2011 at 5:18 PM

So if there is no reelection to worry about, who are these guys going to throw under the bus, their party or their constituents? So long constituents, they are going to vote hard Left to make sure they are employed after “retirement”.

Cindy Munford on January 18, 2011 at 5:18 PM

canopfor on January 18, 2011 at 5:13 PM
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i won’t tell :)

cmsinaz on January 18, 2011 at 5:16 PM

cmsinaz:Tee-hee:)

canopfor on January 18, 2011 at 5:18 PM

cmsinaz:Tee-hee:)

canopfor on January 18, 2011 at 5:18 PM

:)

cmsinaz on January 18, 2011 at 5:19 PM

Fare the well, Joe. You are the last of a dying breed; namely, Democrats with integrity.

hillbillyjim on January 18, 2011 at 5:20 PM

I do hope,any new Democrats get ‘Certified’,and a

`’Psychiatric Assessment`’!!(sarc).

canopfor on January 18, 2011 at 5:21 PM

Everyone’s running from the vicious progressives that have taken over the democrat party.

darwin on January 18, 2011 at 5:16 PM

darwin:

The 2012 DNC Convention should be a hoot,with Liberal Dem
ocrats squaring off with Progressive Socialists,in the dir
ection of the party,and finger pointing!!!

canopfor on January 18, 2011 at 5:23 PM

Last time I was in San Francisco I heard some talk of Dianne Feinstein retiring, but from what I’ve read recently, I think she’s committed herself to running. Not that California matters much…

steebo77 on January 18, 2011 at 5:23 PM

Hard lefty who supported the Iraq war, but still a hard lefty. At least Joe had a bit of integrity, he probably looked close at the human trash taking over the demorat party and figured the going was good.

Why put himself through a campaign that would get his house egged, yard burned, car keyed, and family threatened…and that’s by people who nominally support him.

Bishop on January 18, 2011 at 5:23 PM

Phoney Joe is gone, hurray, hurray.

I so have watched this man pretend to be a moderate while he always hand-wrings and moans about the difficulty of attention-getting decisions (as on abortion) then comes down squarely against the right side. He seeks and skillfully gets the media attention, often by holding out on his decision till the last minute(publically of course)

Joe, an Orthodox Jew, appeared to be a friend to conservatives on the Iraq war, but was simply defending his beloved Israel (good for him – other liberal Jews could care about it)

Joe showed his true stripes when he was chosen as Gore’s VP and he dropped all his principled positions instantly, exposing himself for the hypocrite that he is. Personally, I think that Ted Kennedy was more honest about his confused priciples than Joe.

Don L on January 18, 2011 at 5:23 PM

If Huntsman and Chaffetz jumped in and these numbers held, Hatch would be gone as quickly as Bennett was.

That assumes a survey of Utah voters roughly translates to the same support among GOP delegates. That said, I would guess Chaffetz would do better than 23% among delegates and Huntsman would still first or second.

theperfecteconomist on January 18, 2011 at 5:25 PM

GOP has a genuine solid chance for a pick-up.

Robert_Paulson on January 18, 2011 at 4:35 PM

Boy are you naive. This hellpit(CT) of Godless liberalism swarmed all over Dick Blumanthal with love and kisses – a man who thinks principles live with princesses in castles somewhere.

We (CT) have out-done Massachusetts in loving the culture of death and big government. Even the churches here are full of Marxist wannabes.

Don L on January 18, 2011 at 5:30 PM

Ideologically, I do not agree with the left, on any of the issues. However, as angry as I got over Liebermans voting with the party line crap, even though I think it went against what he really wanted….I liked the man. Still do. He supported the right, all the way thru, and I think still does, when it comes to the troops, and the war.

Also..he’s avoided the truly hateful crap that comes out of his party members, and seems to still have some dignity left.

I can’t say I’ll be sorry to see him go, but as Dems go…I’d rather have him, than someone really hard left.

capejasmine on January 18, 2011 at 5:33 PM

Second look at Ned Lamont?

James on January 18, 2011 at 4:35 PM

More stupid fake Mentos ads?

Ward Cleaver on January 18, 2011 at 5:46 PM

The 2012 DNC Convention should be a hoot,with Liberal Dem
ocrats squaring off with Progressive Socialists,in the dir
ection of the party,and finger pointing!!!

canopfor on January 18, 2011 at 5:23 PM

Should be interesting. The winner will probably be the one that calls for Palin’s head and jailing all conservatives.

I’m not kidding.

darwin on January 18, 2011 at 5:48 PM

Lieberman leaving in Israel would change nothing as Netanyahu agrees with him.
KW64

not really are they agreed on things. certainly not publicly.
they’re currently quarreling about several things, including Lieberman’s support for public controls on funding for charities.

audiculous on January 18, 2011 at 5:53 PM

I’m not kidding.

darwin on January 18, 2011 at 5:48 PM

you maybe onto something there

cmsinaz on January 18, 2011 at 5:56 PM

I would love nothing more than Amnesty Hatch getting fired in the caucuses/primaries.

angryed on January 18, 2011 at 6:00 PM

So, are there any conservatives left in CT?
Iblis on January 18, 2011 at 4:32 PM
Don’t think so, Iblis, not by the look of things. And that goes for the whole of New England as well. Might as well subtract the ‘New’ portion and cede her back to England improper. Cede California to Mexico as well
and we might have a US the way it is supposed to be….Food for thought at least …..

Sherman1864 on January 18, 2011 at 6:03 PM

Jon Tester (D-MT)?

He won by less than 1/2 a percent in 2006 in an anti-Republican year. Plus the guy he beat, Sen. Conrad was a real SOB that even Republicans couldn’t stand.

2012 will be tough for him.

angryed on January 18, 2011 at 6:05 PM

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