Dick Lugar: Hey, let’s bring back the Assault Weapons Ban

posted at 6:38 pm on January 17, 2011 by Allahpundit

Skip ahead to 4:50 for the key bit. He knows that he’ll be primaried in 2012, so there are only three possible explanations for this. One: He’s already decided to retire and is thus emboldened to push whatever policies he likes. In that case, why not announce it a la Kay Bailey Hutchison? Put your vote up for grabs and extract whatever price you can. Two: He’s totally confident that any tea-party challenge is doomed to fail. Er, okay, but Bob Bennett was “totally confident” at one point too. Three: He cares enough about this issue that he’s willing to put his career on the line for it. Granted, there’s public support for some of the provisions of the old Assault Weapons Ban, like banning the sort of “high-capacity magazine” that Loughner used, but the AWB doesn’t have a prayer of passing with the new GOP House — as Lugar himself acknowledges. Why antagonize your constituents by taking a position that doesn’t stand a chance of becoming policy?

As for whether the AWB would have stopped Loughner, that’s an open question. Even under the ban, existing inventories of high-capacity magazines were still perfectly legal to buy and sell (in fact, HCMs were used during the Columbine massacre, which occurred during the ban), and Cho Seung Hui carried off the Virginia Tech massacre with 15-round clips, not the 33-shot magazine used by Loughner, by using multiple weapons. As Tom Coburn said yesterday, the problem here isn’t the number of rounds in the clip, it’s the fact that a palpable lunatic was somehow able to buy a gun legally. How you fix that problem with an elegant solution, though — a mandatory psychiatric evaluation for all gun purchasers is unlikely, especially given the cost — I don’t know.


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No need. Just ban shooting innocent people.

Akzed on January 17, 2011 at 6:39 PM

Hey, lets Primary Dick Lugar instead!

portlandon on January 17, 2011 at 6:41 PM

Awwww man, stop being a dick.

SHARPTOOTH on January 17, 2011 at 6:42 PM

I, I, I, thought he was dead…. Or at least in the nursing home having his Depends changed once a week.

Kuffar on January 17, 2011 at 6:43 PM

No one really cares that crime rates have dropped after the AWB’s sunset.
All that really matters is crime on TV.

mad saint jack on January 17, 2011 at 6:44 PM

Let’s not.

CTSherman on January 17, 2011 at 6:44 PM

What a DICK!

bernzright777 on January 17, 2011 at 6:44 PM

Isn’t Lugar a gun?

Knucklehead on January 17, 2011 at 6:46 PM

Hey, Dick, I got a better idea. Go read the U.S. Constitution. Now think about this, Dick. You work for us. Not the other way around, Dick. So, Dick, remember that time you wanted to be President, but nobody would vote for you? That’s the reason why, Dick.

You have a nice day, Dick.

john1schn on January 17, 2011 at 6:46 PM

Why antagonize your constituents

Because you are Dick Lugar – arrogant bastard.

GarandFan on January 17, 2011 at 6:46 PM

I saw where 17 shots were fired and timed, one with a 17-rnd mag, another with 2 8rnd mags (and I presume one in the chamber). Time difference? Two seconds. Probably be even quicker if one were to practice reloads

JamesLee on January 17, 2011 at 6:47 PM

As for whether the AWB would have stopped Loughner, that’s an open question.

How is it “open”?

The way I see it, the best-case scenario is that it would have reduced the number of victims. Are people really suggesting that if Loughner was limited to a 10-round magazine that he would have taken up needlepoint or something?

malclave on January 17, 2011 at 6:48 PM

go with door #1 allah

cmsinaz on January 17, 2011 at 6:48 PM

hmmmmmm….Lugar is 78 years old, older than Reagan in 1984 when his alzheimer’s screwed up the debate with…well, whoever. In fact, Reagan was only 77 when he left office.

Maybe we should ask Ron what he thinks of Lugar

r keller on January 17, 2011 at 6:49 PM

Well, he does say that sales have skyrocketed since there is the impression Congress is in a “banning” mood, and it’s not going to happen.

Marcus on January 17, 2011 at 6:52 PM

All this sounds sooooo familiar

The climate on Capitol Hill has turned chilly toward weakening gun control laws since the Oklahoma bombing last week, making it difficult for Republican leaders to fulfill their pledge to repeal the assault weapons ban enacted last year.

D.C. just doesn’t like that darned 2nd amendment.

Weight of Glory on January 17, 2011 at 6:53 PM

like banning the sort of “high-capacity magazine”

This is just idiotic, what number of victims is going to be the cut-off point? The Luby’s restaurant shooter brought two guns into his rampage, was the first gun somehow less a crime than the second gun? Is 11 rounds somehow less a crime than 30 rounds? Who thinks one more gun law is going to be any more effective than the existing gun laws.

fourdeucer on January 17, 2011 at 6:53 PM

Three: He cares enough about this issue that he’s willing to put his career on the line for it.

Pshaw…

ted c on January 17, 2011 at 6:56 PM

I think assaulting people with any kind of weapon is already illegal.

profitsbeard on January 17, 2011 at 6:57 PM

Primary this nut bag and be done with it. Oh, and stop that idiot Mitch Daniels from thinking about taking his place.

No.More.RINOs. E.V.E.R.

gary4205 on January 17, 2011 at 6:58 PM

The very risk of such legislation passing is the reason I and many others, sadly, haven’t purchased our “field utility” and long range “target” equipment from US manufacturers, for years. You never know when you might need parts, mags, or ammo, the manufacture of which could be outlawed here at some point down the road.

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TXUS on January 17, 2011 at 6:59 PM

These same guys just want to be loved by the MSM. Nothing has changed. We have got to purge these people if we really want change in DC.

Hummer53 on January 17, 2011 at 7:00 PM

Seems a bit crazy, to me. It seems as though Dick is saying that shooting a certain number of people is fine, but not more.

OldEnglish on January 17, 2011 at 7:01 PM

How you fix that problem with an elegant solution, though — a mandatory psychiatric evaluation for all gun purchasers is unlikely, especially given the cost — I don’t know.

Increase number of sane concealed carriers.

http://privateofficernews.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/church-security-shoots-kills-armed-man-wwwprivateofficercom/

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/14808321/detail.html

There is a saying in combat: “The best preventive medicine on the battlefield is one thing—overwhelming firepower.”

Thusly, a lunatic like Loughner can be confronted and have his spree blunted by a CC if they choose to engage. There was one known CC that helped hold Loughner down. Apparently, by the time he got nearby Loughner, he was prepped to draw his pistol, but did not because Loughner was already disarmed and down. The guy then put his knee in his back and made sure that he was disarmed from there forward.

ted c on January 17, 2011 at 7:01 PM

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TXUS on January 17, 2011 at 6:59 PM

how’d you do that?

ted c on January 17, 2011 at 7:02 PM

I think assaulting people with any kind of weapon is already illegal.

profitsbeard on January 17, 2011 at 6:57 PM

Perhaps their next great idea will be the banning of human hands.

Key West Reader on January 17, 2011 at 7:04 PM

This Lugar has been a misfire for quite a while. Time for retirement, for sure.

Warner Todd Huston on January 17, 2011 at 7:06 PM

Here the problem with Lugar and the rest of our politicians. They do not want to accept life is a risk, bad things happen, bad guys do bad things, and we can’t and should NOT attempt to control all human behavior- good or bad.

They also have a bad habit of acting like old generals and fighting the last war, so to speak.

Politicians should just trying to manage people with laws. Give it a rest. This is an isolated incident that could not have been avoided unless the Sheriff out there had done something before the event- like posting security. Once that moment was missed, the rest was on automatic.

Jeez… let it go. High capacity magazines mean nothing. Ten rounds, fifteen rounds, thirty-three rounds, it wouldn’t matter to a committed assassin. I have a buddy who is a world champion shooter in all types of weapons. His magazine change is so fast you have to actually watch for it. Attacking the tool and not the actual failure points in this event is a coward’s way out.

Here’s something to think about. One county in Maryland has more homicides than deaths in Afghanistan year to date. Wonder what causes that?

archer52 on January 17, 2011 at 7:06 PM

OT: speaking assault and weapons….20 years ago tonight, coalition forces began dropping things more dangerous than harshly worded memos over Baghdad in Operation Desert Storm.

17JAN 1991
do you remember? I do.

ted c on January 17, 2011 at 7:06 PM

Hey! Let’s retire your ass!

Rocks on January 17, 2011 at 7:07 PM

how’d you do that?

ted c on January 17, 2011 at 7:02 PM

CHARMAP

Kini on January 17, 2011 at 7:08 PM

Isn’t Lugar a gun?

Knucklehead on January 17, 2011 at 6:46 PM

Yes, let’s ban the Lugar.

scrubjay on January 17, 2011 at 7:09 PM

Little did his parents know, those oh so many years ago, that the name they bestowed on their child, would be soooooooo fitting today.

capejasmine on January 17, 2011 at 7:09 PM

Seems a bit crazy, to me. It seems as though Dick is saying that shooting a certain number of people is fine, but not more.

OldEnglish on January 17, 2011 at 7:01 PM

100% in agreement with you on that. Loughners first ten victims are somehow less injured or dead than victims 11 through 30 or whatever number of victims any other deranged lunatic could kill or injure. Leave the law abiding gun owners alone and focus on the crime, not trying to make criminals out of the rest of us.

fourdeucer on January 17, 2011 at 7:12 PM

ted c on January 17, 2011 at 7:02 PM

˙˙˙ ‘noʎ ploʇ ı ɟI

TXUS on January 17, 2011 at 7:14 PM

Hey! you’re voted off the island!

CynicalOptimist on January 17, 2011 at 7:16 PM

˙˙˙ ‘noʎ ploʇ ı ɟI

TXUS on January 17, 2011 at 7:14 PM

those are some skillz yo

ted c on January 17, 2011 at 7:17 PM

Oh yeah, I forgot… DON’T BE A DICK, DICK!

CynicalOptimist on January 17, 2011 at 7:19 PM

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TXUS on January 17, 2011 at 6:59 PM

That is Teh Awesome!

ladyingray on January 17, 2011 at 7:20 PM

Lugar’s brain has turned to mush, like former VA Senator John Warner. Once upon a time he was ‘conservative’ but has lived inside the bubble so long his brain has completely turned to gruel. The brainwaves are flat. And Junior said ‘Dad’ had alzheimers.

JimP on January 17, 2011 at 7:21 PM

Standard factory magazines for Glock,Browing Hi Power and a lot of other double stack sidearms ar 10,15,17,19, to a flush fit 8 for the classic 1911A.
Extended mags are not the norm.
Luger will be primarried,we have set aside funds to primary a wide group for 2012. Kay got the word early and made a gracious choice.
We might think of the psych angle but only after every candidate in office and those seeking office release the files from their shrink,and pee in the cup 2 times a year or on demand as deemed reasonable by us the voters.
No drinking on the job would be a novelty also.

Col.John Wm. Reed on January 17, 2011 at 7:21 PM

I saw where 17 shots were fired and timed, one with a 17-rnd mag, another with 2 8rnd mags (and I presume one in the chamber). Time difference? Two seconds. Probably be even quicker if one were to practice reloads

JamesLee on January 17, 2011 at 6:47 PM

Those who are concerned with the extended magazine really don’t understand the entire system. You are correct about practiced mag changes and timing.

In addition, I believe that regular magazines give a better balance, quicker movement, and return to point of aim. If the mag changes are quick I believe that use of lower-cap mags can actually prove more deadly than extended mags in the hands of the inexperienced.

Just my 2 cents, and hundreds of dollars in spent ammo.

Yoop on January 17, 2011 at 7:22 PM

As a Hoosier I’ve been trying to get fellow Hoosiers to wake up for yrs about this open border stick it in the eye of conservatives RINO. Alas Hoosiers seem to vote for the name they know best for some reason. All the media and lg IN papaers will line up behind Dick.

PTN 39 on January 17, 2011 at 7:23 PM

PS: respectfully, AP, they aren’t ‘clips’ in this type weapon, they are “magazines”. You sound like a liberal calling them ‘clips’ in this scenario. Just trying to help.

JimP on January 17, 2011 at 7:24 PM

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TXUS on January 17, 2011 at 6:59 PM

Is that a mathematical calculation showing that more guns in the hands of law abiding citizens equals less crime.

fourdeucer on January 17, 2011 at 7:25 PM

D.C. just doesn’t like that darned 2nd amendment.

Hell yea, that’s why you still see idiotic restrictions on many large caliber weapons and RPGs.

If this Congress has its way, every member of the House will soon be licensed to pack heat and this country will finally have reached its goal of reaching gun parity with Cameroon and Turkmenistan.

bayam on January 17, 2011 at 7:26 PM

Isn’t Lugar a gun?

Knucklehead on January 17, 2011 at 6:46 PM

Nope. Lugar’s a tool.

trigon on January 17, 2011 at 7:30 PM

He is his Name sake…. :)

hawkman on January 17, 2011 at 7:33 PM

the 1908 Lugar was the first 9mm and it could accept a 32 round drum magazine.

mad saint jack on January 17, 2011 at 7:35 PM

Bayam you are ignorant.

CWforFreedom on January 17, 2011 at 7:37 PM

In the interest of Civility…..…..

….this guy Lugar is a long time member of the PROGRESSIVE AXIS OF EVIL (DC Ruling Class / NYC Media and the Ivy league schools that help to populate them).

Therefore he should be shunned/primaried and ignored as a traitor to the Republic (in the interest of Civility of course).

PappyD61 on January 17, 2011 at 7:39 PM

Lugar is a wasted Senate seat. He must be removed, ASAP.

rickyricardo on January 17, 2011 at 7:48 PM

If guns cause crime, why do the police carry them?

JellyToast on January 17, 2011 at 7:49 PM

I think assaulting people with any kind of weapon is already illegal.

profitsbeard on January 17, 2011 at 6:57 PM

But is it illegal illegal? If it was illegal illegal it would stop people.

/liberal

malclave on January 17, 2011 at 7:50 PM

If guns cause crime, why do the police carry them?

JellyToast on January 17, 2011 at 7:49 PM

They look good with the uniforms.

fourdeucer on January 17, 2011 at 7:51 PM

bayam on January 17, 2011 at 7:26 PM

Your tears of outrage, make me giggle.

Twag.

Inanemergencydial on January 17, 2011 at 7:52 PM

the AWB doesn’t have a prayer of passing with the new GOP House — as Lugar himself acknowledges.

Here, in Indiana, the campaign slogan is “Willing and ABL” (Anybody But Lugar).

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 17, 2011 at 7:54 PM

I think he’s an arrogant enough Dick that win or lose, and he thinks he’ll win, he’s sure as hell not going to let a bunch of right wing knuckle draggers make him dance to their tune. He thinks he’ll win a primary and if not, maybe he’ll pull a Lieberman. Bennett lost at a convention where a small energetic group can make a difference, that’s a little less so in a primary.

jnelchef on January 17, 2011 at 7:54 PM

Seems a bit crazy, to me. It seems as though Dick is saying that shooting a certain number of people is fine, but not more.

OldEnglish

That’s exactly what he and every other moron making this argument is saying. They’re just too stupid to know it.

xblade on January 17, 2011 at 7:57 PM

The GOP will betray you.

True_King on January 17, 2011 at 7:57 PM

Dick Lugar must be defeated. He will not be re-elected in Indiana.

Oink on January 17, 2011 at 8:03 PM

Two: He’s totally confident that any tea-party challenge is doomed to fail.

This option gets my vote.

I received a nominating petition in the mail with space for several signatures along with a letter asking me to sign and return. I have long been on his mailing list, although my communications with his office are invariably complaints if not outright angry rants.

He is absolutely in the driver’s seat in the state party. Hell, the governor used to work for him. It’s a kamikaze mission for any Republican to run against Lugar.

Not that I wouldn’t love to see him gone. I’ll be backing anyone competent and respectable who takes up the gauntlet.

novaculus on January 17, 2011 at 8:09 PM

Textbook dodo bird RINOism: kneejerk appeasment to liberal media, flouting of grassroots, and “I know best” elitism.

This guy is running headlong into extinction.

rrpjr on January 17, 2011 at 8:11 PM

some of the provisions of the old Assault Weapons Ban, like banning the sort of “high-capacity magazine” that Loughner used,

So “high-capacity magazine” = Assault Weapon?

Even on a handgun?

Hello slippery slope….

Chip on January 17, 2011 at 8:32 PM

Why don’t we just ban Lunatic Leftists?

Colbyjack on January 17, 2011 at 8:39 PM

Time to save up for that 100 round mag for the Thompson… and its the ‘pistol’ version, to boot! Its for those days when I just don’t feel like swapping out 30 round government issue stick mags.

Actually I don’t think it would even come under the old AWB as it has none of the asinine criteria for an ‘assault weapon’.

Go ahead, Mr. Lugar, twist my arm to do it!

ajacksonian on January 17, 2011 at 9:06 PM

The AWB and the magazine ban where two different parts of the 1994 crime bill.

mad saint jack on January 17, 2011 at 9:27 PM

We said no. We hate repeating ourselves.

Merovign on January 17, 2011 at 9:55 PM

and Cho Seung Hui carried off the Virginia Tech massacre with 15-round clips

MAGAZINES.

MadisonConservative on January 17, 2011 at 10:04 PM

This is a really stupid idea. Somebody ban paint chips so we can increase the IQ of these idiot Congresspeople.

AbeFroman on January 17, 2011 at 10:14 PM

Don’t believe everthing you hear. Sometimes the old dude’s dentures slip and it sounds like he’s saying something he’s not. At least, that’s my hope…

sheesh on January 17, 2011 at 10:20 PM

Logic line of Dick: There are too many fat people, time to ban spoons.

Alden Pyle on January 17, 2011 at 10:29 PM

First, we simply have to correct the false terminology:by definition, assault weapons have an automatic firing capability. That was banned in the 1930′s. My AR15 carbine looks almost exactly like a military M4–except for the selector switch which doesn’t allow for automatic fire on my rifle.
2nd, high capacity magazines…lots of people have already made excellent points against the futility/stupidity in banning them.
Third, we’ll be limited to black powder, single shot , muzzle loaders for ‘hunting’ if we don’t take a hard line on the 2nd amendment!

cartooner on January 17, 2011 at 10:49 PM

This is knee jerk idiocy. We can’t base our freedoms on the actions of violent individuals. The criminally insane will exist with or without guns. Ted Bundy killed young women using tire irons and baseball bats.
Should we ban those to make sure they don’t fall into the hands of madmen?

iceman1960 on January 17, 2011 at 10:51 PM

In the 1980 GOP convention after Reagan was nominated, the speculation over who he would pick as a running mate included Dick Lugar. I immediately was ready to draw a cartoon, if that became the ticket, of a Ray Gun and a 9mm
Lugar. Never happened, thank God. Even Papa Bush was more conservative that that Dick.

cartooner on January 17, 2011 at 10:55 PM

If you decide by total number of people killed. The Gladius my very well be the deadliest weapon ever.

Slowburn on January 17, 2011 at 10:57 PM

This is knee jerk idiocy. We can’t base our freedoms on the actions of violent individuals. The criminally insane will exist with or without guns. Ted Bundy killed young women using tire irons and baseball bats.
Should we ban those to make sure they don’t fall into the hands of madmen?

iceman1960 on January 17, 2011 at 10:51 PM

You’re right. The Founders didn’t base our freedoms on what the “unstable” could deal with.

cartooner on January 17, 2011 at 10:58 PM

They are NOT clips; they are magazines. You’re sounding like a know-nothing, gun-grabbing leftie using that kind of terminology. But I guess living in NY gives you a valid excuse since you don’t get to see them there.

Big John on January 18, 2011 at 12:00 AM

3) He’s going to retire and he’s lining up his Soros retirement account. Granted, there are nice jobs for any retiring senator after his kind of tenure, but there are MUCH better jobs in exchange for giving libs their favorite thing – Republicans who are willing to tell them their narrative of the GOP being right wing nut jobs is true. The more credible (on paper) the better. He’s guaranteeing himself university boards, boards of mysteriously well-funded “bipartisan” organizations, private jets, fine wine and caviar for the rest of his life.
Not saying he doesn’t buy this crap, but I doubt that he’s ignorant of these positions.

galenrox on January 18, 2011 at 12:08 AM

Think Jim Leach.

galenrox on January 18, 2011 at 12:10 AM

You’re right. The Founders didn’t base our freedoms on what the “unstable” could deal with.

cartooner

right. they based government as an institution meant to be of service to the citizenry. how having private citizens walking around town carrying handguns loaded with 15 or 30 cartridges serves the citizenry isn’t quite clear.

audiculous on January 18, 2011 at 12:26 AM

the problem here isn’t the number of rounds in the clip, it’s the fact that a palpable lunatic was somehow able to buy a gun legally. How you fix that problem with an elegant solution, though — a mandatory psychiatric evaluation for all gun purchasers is unlikely, especially given the cost — I don’t know.

“a palpable lunatic was somehow able to buy a gun legally…” And if they can’t buy it legally, they will buy the firearms illegally which is the fatal flaw in any and all anti 2nd Amendment gun laws. Only the law abiding obey laws. That’s exactly why the others are called criminals.
There is no real solution here Allah.

Amendment X on January 18, 2011 at 2:19 AM

Assault weapon ban in name only…Cosmetics don’t make an assualt weapon…Let’s hope Lugar shot off his mouth for the last time before his retirement in ’12…

Gohawgs on January 18, 2011 at 2:28 AM

It’s a damn -MAGAZINE- not a CLIP!!

tx2654 on January 18, 2011 at 2:33 AM

A gun with a fixed magazine is clip fed: 1896 Mauser or Mosin-Nagant as examples.

A clip holds rounds to be put into a magazine: thus a removeable magazine fed weapon can have ready clips for quickly reloading of the removable magazine.

The magazine holds rounds so that a weapon can easily shift them from the magazine to the firing chamber: clips get removed from most magazines (there are exceptions) so that the magazine can operate in this manner.

There are variations all over the map on this, of course, such as weapons gravity fed from clips that don’t have a magazine, that help to muddy the waters. The function of a magazine is to move rounds from the magazine directly for use in a weapon. The the Chu-Ko-Nu with a gravity fed system was not a clip, but a fixed, gravity feeding magazine for that rapid fire cross-bow…the bundled bolts for quick feeding into the magazine would be a ‘clip’ in modern parlance. A clip can serve magazine functions in a weapon designed for that, especially if the weapon is without a magazine, like some artillery systems.

That is how I’ve come to distinguish between a ‘magazine’ and a ‘clip’: readiness for utility needs. If rounds have to be transferred from a temporary holding system to another holding system you are moving those rounds from a clip to a magazine. I can’t think of any unloader that moves rounds directly from a magazine to a clip, but I’m sure there is one, someplace.

In the days of wooden ships the ‘magazine’ was the ready room in which powder, ball, wadding and cleaning supplies were kept so as to feed pre-made amounts out to cannons so there wasn’t much of that on deck at a given time. That readiness function of a magazine holds true from then until now, save the ammunition is now in cartridge format. Function determines nomenclature in a general way, but the argument isn’t due to sloppy thinking but the wide variety of arms and how they were utilized over centuries. No one can ‘win’ the debate as there are too many variation to make all but the most broad and general hand-waving of rules and even that will have exceptions to it.

ajacksonian on January 18, 2011 at 7:28 AM

When we drug test congress and the staff we might do better.
Again the whole city is awash in booze,hookers and graft.
Vote em all out.

Col.John Wm. Reed on January 18, 2011 at 8:00 AM

He’s guaranteeing himself to be primaried if he proceeds with this.

right. they based government as an institution meant to be of service to the citizenry. how having private citizens walking around town carrying handguns loaded with 15 or 30 cartridges serves the citizenry isn’t quite clear.

audiculous on January 18, 2011 at 12:26 AM

For the same reason having policemen walking around with the same tools at their disposal serves the citizenry.

When are people going to realize the problem is not the tools, it’s the lunatics behind them committing mass murder.

HE SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BUY A WEAPON IN THE FIRST PLACE. The breakdown here is already with the law and it’s enforcement. And some think the way to “fix” this is to enact even more laws which will do nothing to fix the problem. The last AWB should have shown the “reality based” community that.

Keith_Indy on January 18, 2011 at 8:34 AM

He must be talking just to hear himself speak. This is the time he gets any attention. Didn’t notice the Tucson shooter using an AW.

Kissmygrits on January 18, 2011 at 9:10 AM

Because you are Dick Lugar – arrogant bastard.

GarandFan on January 17, 2011 at 6:46 PM

I’ve been a Hoosier for 35 years and never has Dick Lugar listened to his constituents, but he has the ability to make people believe he does. That and name recognition kept him in office well past his sell-by date. He is a depends-wetting geriatric RINO fossil and must be replaced.

Extrafishy on January 18, 2011 at 9:27 AM

What’s nice is that this DICK doesn’t even bother to respond to his constituents emails. He thinks he is part of the elite that knows better than anyone else. Wish we could put this old, worthless dog outta his misery. He should be playing bingo instead of crafting legislation that his state doesn’t want.

search4truth on January 18, 2011 at 10:03 AM

This is what these guys turn into when they spend too much time in Washington DC. Honestly, we the people have to turn those the career politicians out!

kens on January 18, 2011 at 4:03 PM