Russian reporter claims Tucson shootings the result of American freedom

posted at 9:30 am on January 14, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

You know what this country needs after a week of insanity on display in Tucson and inanity on display in the American media?  We need someone with whom we can all be angry — a handy whipping post to berate and mock.  Ladies and gentlemen, I give you our figure of unity … Russian reporter Andrei Sitov from TASS, assigned to the White House press corps, courtesy of Ann Compton:

“[M]any people outside would also say — and the quote, unquote “freedom” of a deranged mind to react in a violent way is also American.”  Sitov called it “the reverse side of freedom, unless you want restriction, unless you want a bigger role for the government in their lives.”

“No, no, I would disagree vehemently with that,” shot back Gibbs.  He went on with considerable force.

“There are — there is nothing in the values of our country, there’s nothing on the many laws on our books that would provide for somebody to impugn and impede on the very freedoms that you began with by exercising the actions that that individual took on that day.  That is not American.   There are — I think there’s agreement on all sides of the political spectrum:  Violence is never, ever acceptable.  We had people that died.  We had people whose lives will be changed forever because of the deranged actions of a madman.  Those are not American.  Those are not in keeping with the important bedrock values by which this country was founded and by which its citizens live each and every day of their lives in hopes of something better for those that are here.”

Compton says that some members of the White House press corps briefly considered this a “return to the Cold War,” apparently offended that Sitov would frame a mass murder in Tucson as somehow indicative of American values.  It does have that Soviet-era flavor, too — when the Kremlin (and doesn’t that term take you back?) would routinely use any single crime, tragedy, or outrage as somehow emblematic of the corrupt and decadent West, especially in the US.  Since Russia today isn’t exactly a paragon of laissez-faire democracy, it’s easy to see how veteran reporters at the White House could find something very, very familiar in that question.

However, it’s also possible that Sitov just fumbled his vocabulary a bit.  Sitov’s clarifying addendum sounds as if he meant that while we try our best to prevent these tragedies through intervention when possible, in a free country one cannot guarantee that they won’t happen.  Mass murder isn’t an American value, but the American value of freedom prevents us from creating a massively large police state that could prevent these tragedies, but would also prevent free expression and choice.

If that’s what Sitov meant and just clumsily argued, then he is right.  In fact, that’s exactly what John Green said to NBC on Monday, that the murder of his precious daughter by a lunatic was part of having “a free society,” and that “I prefer this to the alternative.”

Update: My apologies; I got bit by the assumption that it was Jake Tapper who wrote this, but it was Ann Compton.


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Cold War never really ended. Commies just needed to sell fuel to the West to stay in business. So they need to warm up a little, but it’s still death to the capitalism sort of stuff.

Oil Can on January 14, 2011 at 9:33 AM

Leftist do what leftists do. What is he doing that’s any different than the NYT, except perhaps in scope?

American values…Tea Party values…the logic is just as bad, just a bit broader.

Asher on January 14, 2011 at 9:34 AM

In Mother Russia, psychopath sends you to asylum.

29Victor on January 14, 2011 at 9:35 AM

Sounds like crazy Russian guyz needz to be replaced. Pffft.

moonsbreath on January 14, 2011 at 9:38 AM

Speaking of the Russians, anybody read that they are going to ratify START II but have announced that they plan on withdrawing if they feel “threatened,” as a result of OUR interpretation of the treaty. In otherwords, they plan on exiting just as soon as move forth with anything that resembles missile defense. What a joke of a treaty.

Indy82 on January 14, 2011 at 9:38 AM

Meh, lost in translation? Whatever. Contract killers knock people off in Russia almost as often as they do in Mexico; being a reporter critical of Putin will get you bullet in the head more often than not.

Bishop on January 14, 2011 at 9:39 AM

“If that’s what Sitov meant and just clumsily argued, then he is right.”

I’m going to go with this. His ability to speak English appears to be terrible.

Dusty on January 14, 2011 at 9:39 AM

Oh, like they’ve never had mass murders in Russia. He’s right about the freedom we have, but not to worry, the dems have a plan for that.

Kissmygrits on January 14, 2011 at 9:40 AM

In Mother Russia, psychopath sends you to asylum.

29Victor on January 14, 2011 at 9:35 AM

Given Stalin, that is extremely true. The Soviet Union did put some dissidents, those who disagreed with Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism in psychiatric hospitals, because anyone who disagreed with there system had to be insane (in the proper medical term.)

It is very similar to those who, today, disagree with this new Democratic Party ideology — if you disagree with it you have to be stupid.

rbj on January 14, 2011 at 9:41 AM

Just because the Soviet empire collapsed, it doesn’t mean it died. It’s just catching it’s breath. Putin appears to be building the foundation for its return and eliminating potential “problems”.

Extrafishy on January 14, 2011 at 9:41 AM

Well small minds think alike, I guess. The libs are basically in line with these folks; too damn many freedoms in this country, it’s bad for us.

surrounded on January 14, 2011 at 9:41 AM

This is almost too good to be true. Their soul brothers in the Godless communist Russia have bonded with their friends in Pravda West (the mainstream media) to help clear the path to world-wide domination. If anyone doesn’t yet see what’s going on, they’re part of the problem.

On the other hand, maybe we should agree about that “too much freedom” business and start clamping down on the anti-American leftists in all the institutions they have corrupted. Let’s start with allowing lawsuits for malicious slander by the media, then those AGW frauds, those eco-nut professors, the leftist nameless bureaucrats that really jerk America down daily, those purple shirt unions,… it’s a leftist idea we can use.

Don L on January 14, 2011 at 9:42 AM

“[M]any people outside would also say — and the quote, unquote “freedom” of a deranged mind to react in a violent way is also American.” Sitov called it “the reverse side of freedom, unless you want restriction, unless you want a bigger role for the government in their lives.”

Thing is…He’s right.

Sorry, but how does this fundamentally differ with what Christina Green’s father said about this being the price we pay for our freedoms?

I would have liked Gibbs to answer that humans aren’t perfect and that yes, certainly, the more freedom they live under the more they’re responsible for their own actions and the more–on rare occasions such as this, or Lee harvey, or John Hinkley–sick individuals can create tragedy. But that overall, we here in America love our freedoms and understand that there’s no such thing as a perfect world.

Typhoon on January 14, 2011 at 9:44 AM

“It is true that liberty is precious – so precious that it must be rationed”–Vladimir Lenin–Marxist revolutionary and communist politician

Thank goodness our current leaders in Washington are nothing like Lenin.

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cntrlfrk on January 14, 2011 at 9:46 AM

Typhoon on January 14, 2011 at 9:44 AM

Well put.

dedalus on January 14, 2011 at 9:49 AM

Yes, in the view of the Russians it should be the State that shoots the civilians.

EnochCain on January 14, 2011 at 9:49 AM

A little O/T here, but did anyone catch the premiere of the program on CNBC entitled: “Target: Inside the Bullseye”

Isn’t that encouraging violence?

/sarc.

Colbyjack on January 14, 2011 at 9:50 AM

that the murder of his precious daughter by a lunatic was part of having “a free society,” and that “I prefer this to the alternative.”

put that in your vodka and drink it Andrei.

ted c on January 14, 2011 at 9:51 AM

Typhoon on January 14, 2011 at 9:44 AM

+1

Theworldisnotenough on January 14, 2011 at 9:52 AM

Typhoon on January 14, 2011 at 9:44 AM

I agree. It’s a version of freedom isn’t free.

Fallon on January 14, 2011 at 9:53 AM

I spent 2 1/2 days in St. Petersburg on a tour. Surly people in uniforms everywhere and our guide told us frankly that much of the mood of the old USSR remained in place.

I look forward to never returning.

Drained Brain on January 14, 2011 at 9:54 AM

Yeah.

‘Cause living in Russia is so awesome.
Cheap vodka and subzero temps. Wonderful.

blatantblue on January 14, 2011 at 9:54 AM

The real Cold War is happening right here at home between the WH and the American people.

katy on January 14, 2011 at 9:55 AM

In Russia, it’s the govt that does the killing – apparently.

OldEnglish on January 14, 2011 at 9:56 AM

Ed, what surprises you about these comments? They are no different from what Kos, the Democrat leadership and their media lackeys have been saying ever since the tragedy occurred.

MTF on January 14, 2011 at 9:56 AM

Well said typhoon

cmsinaz on January 14, 2011 at 9:58 AM

Strange math. The more liberty we surrender for the false promise of security, the less we have of either. Damn you, Franklin!

Extrafishy on January 14, 2011 at 10:00 AM

…a handy whipping post to berate and mock

I can’t believe the “tone truthers” have complained about the rhetoric yet.

forest on January 14, 2011 at 10:03 AM

Time for MSNBC to take another look at reviving that old Phil Donahue-Vladmir Posner festival of “America Sucks” sanctimony? Or is MSNBC far past the point of such a restrained show by now?

jon1979 on January 14, 2011 at 10:05 AM

“Sitov called it “the reverse side of freedom, unless you want restriction, unless you want a bigger role for the government in their lives.”

Isn’t this exactly what the father of the 9 year old who was killed also stated?

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/01/10/video-slain-girls-father-says-attack-the-price-of-a-free-society/

JeffinSac on January 14, 2011 at 10:07 AM

I agree, Ed. Freedom entails risks. There is no way around it. The Founders understood this principle. Where and when I grew up, it was taught this way. Now days and in some areas of the country I think the teach the opposite. That somehow you as a citizen are entitled to “security”.

JimP on January 14, 2011 at 10:08 AM

rbj on January 14, 2011 at 9:41 AM

In Soviet Russia, asylum seeks you.

29Victor on January 14, 2011 at 10:09 AM

Typhoon is right.

In countries with more government control, they’ll institutionalize dangerous people faster. And the more government control is sought, the lower the bar for what is considered “dangerous”.

MayBee on January 14, 2011 at 10:11 AM

being a reporter critical of Putin will get you bullet in the head more often than not.

Bishop on January 14, 2011 at 9:39 AM

Or a thallium sandwich.

TugboatPhil on January 14, 2011 at 10:13 AM

I hear the bread lines are very non-violent.

The Mega Independent on January 14, 2011 at 10:14 AM

I spent 2 1/2 days in St. Petersburg on a tour. Surly people in uniforms everywhere and our guide told us frankly that much of the mood of the old USSR remained in place.

I look forward to never returning.

Drained Brain on January 14, 2011 at 9:54 AM

Not surprising. The USSR was merely a continuation of the Russian Empire, just under a different label. The French Revolution — overthrowing a king, resulted in an emperor. The Russian Revolution — overthrowing a czar, resulted in a president for life. The Chinese revolution — overthrowing an emperor resulted in a premier for life.

Only the American Revolution resulted in permanent change.

rbj on January 14, 2011 at 10:16 AM

Yep – I’ll take Freedom over the alternative. I accept the risks of lunies and radicals out there.

And I agree that it is a mindset. Most of us are pretty much hardwired that way, I think. A few hundred years will do that to you. But much of the world grows up in a different environment. In some ways, we really cannot empathize with many other cultures.

connertown on January 14, 2011 at 10:20 AM

Oh now, the guy actually has something of a point.

Americans revel in our individuality and freedom. A deranged person may well be allowed much more leeway here because Americans have a “right” to be strange (as long as they’re not hurting people). Other places might indeed reign in the strange folk before they cross the line into hurting people, because being strange (without hurting people) isn’t tolerated or allowed.

krome on January 14, 2011 at 10:24 AM

I was mainly surprised by Gibbs’s quick defense of American values. I totally would have expected him to agree and apologize.

aero on January 14, 2011 at 10:26 AM

I don’t have a problem with the Russian reporter’s question. It serves to illustrate how our leftists are much more closely aligned with Russia than with our own traditional values and attitudes.

aero on January 14, 2011 at 10:29 AM

Russians think in terms of nations, not individuals. And as much as you Americans got all upset at this Russian’s comments, as a Russian-born person I can tell you that that’s how most Russians think. Nothing to do with the cold war… Russians think in terms of national traits, not individual traits.

AlexB on January 14, 2011 at 10:32 AM

The Seige of the Dubrovka theater shows that both forms of government ultimately can’t offer absolute security.

J_Crater on January 14, 2011 at 10:35 AM

“If that’s what Sitov meant and just clumsily argued, then he is right.”
I’m going to go with this. His ability to speak English appears to be terrible.

Dusty on January 14, 2011 at 9:39 AM

I tend to agree with you here.
For those of you who do not think there is still a COld War going on, please read the following:
This one is about the CPUSA.

This one is about experiences in the Gulag. It is absolutely frightening & heartbreaking.

This one compares the regimes of Stalin & Hitler.

This is a very interesting book about Americans who moved to Soviet Russia to participate in what they thought would be a utopian society. Boy were they wrong.

And this book will lead you to understand the harshness that we seem to see in so many of the Russian peoples.

And it’s always good to read about Mao when considering Communism.

If any of those books do not turn you against Communism & liberalism & socialism, then you are a moron.

Badger40 on January 14, 2011 at 10:39 AM

I wonder what he thinks of the riots in Greece, UK, Tunisia, and the drug cartel killing spree in Mexico?

TN Mom on January 14, 2011 at 10:41 AM

Well small minds think alike, I guess. The libs are basically in line with these folks; too damn many freedoms in this country, it’s bad for us.
surrounded on January 14, 2011 at 9:41 AM

In your best S.C. Senator Earnest “Fritz” Hollings’ voice“There’s too much freedom going on out there.”
The Lefts’ battle cry.

deptofredundancydept on January 14, 2011 at 10:43 AM

I heartily recommend you all read those novels I linked to above.
I am reading Dupes right now.
Never knew, for instance, that Grandpa from the Waltons was a registered communist.
Yikes.

Badger40 on January 14, 2011 at 10:43 AM

Badger40 on January 14, 2011 at 10:43 AM

Just think of all the communist that are not registered

deptofredundancydept on January 14, 2011 at 10:49 AM

I was mainly surprised by Gibbs’s quick defense of American values. I totally would have expected him to agree and apologize.
aero on January 14, 2011 at 10:26 AM

As Hillary Clinton did.

Drained Brain on January 14, 2011 at 10:49 AM

Russians think in terms of national traits, not individual traits.

AlexB on January 14, 2011 at 10:32 AM

That’s a very good point.

Which I believe is why communism via the Bolshvk. Rev. was successful.
And it is what kept Stalin in power.
And even before that, many Russina peasant villages were somewhat communal.
I do not believe this could EVER happen in America.
We are just too individualistic for an ideology like that to ever take place.

Badger40 on January 14, 2011 at 10:51 AM

Ed, I think you left off an “h” in the Tass reporter’s last name.

Badger40 on January 14, 2011 at 10:39 AM

Have a friend locally who is a Russian emigre. Says that back “home” folks are referring to Putin as “Tsar Vladimir” more frequently. The old commie ideology may be gone, but Russian self-interests have not diminished at all.

coldwarrior on January 14, 2011 at 10:51 AM

Just think of all the communist that are not registered

deptofredundancydept on January 14, 2011 at 10:49 AM

I think they gave up communism for environmentalism.
But now being a communist has a lot less stigma than it used to.
Still, what were old communists to do when the Cold War broke & the Wall fell?
Nothing to do but find another vehicle of power.
Environmentalism surely fits their needs.
Lots of morons to fool & help them with their power objectives.
I will give these communist ideologues one thing, they are very sophisticate & persistent.

Badger40 on January 14, 2011 at 10:53 AM

The old commie ideology may be gone, but Russian self-interests have not diminished at all.

coldwarrior on January 14, 2011 at 10:51 AM

i heard a while back they were beringing Stalin back into the fold of history again, in a new more sympathetic light.
Democracy for them has been very hard.
Bcs of that, they have become fickle & so they mistackingly hearken back to the comradarie of the WW II years when the communist purges & rhetoric were toned down a bit bcs they were fighting for their lives.
The Russian people do not talk of their past history.
They are & have forgotten it so easily.
It will be very easy for them to return to communism.
They have a false sense about the history of it.
No wonder, considering how many died in the Gulag & so many that did survive the Gulag refused to talk about it.

Badger40 on January 14, 2011 at 10:57 AM

They also do not seem to understand that Stalin was just as ambitious as Hitler in his wish to dominate Europe.
All we have to do is ask the Polish people their take on Russia.
The picture then becomes very clear.

Badger40 on January 14, 2011 at 10:58 AM

Another registered communist from the 40s = Lucille Ball.
What a hearbreaker.

Badger40 on January 14, 2011 at 10:59 AM

Our crazies: murders in the ones and twos.

Russia’s crazies: murder (in the name of the state) in the millions.

thirtypundit on January 14, 2011 at 10:59 AM

“The return of the Cold War”?

We won the cold war, now we’re faced with the hot peace, its just an extension of the undying communist menace and we don’t even want to recognize the invasion, yet.

Karl Marx is going to win this war.– Father Coughlin

Is he? Or do we wake up in time?

From Marx in our schools, media, government to probably half of the Mexican, South American invasion being communists, to a rapidly rising China, communism is achieving what the USSR never could.

Marx still controls our senate and the Whitehouse, start with the schools, no more indoctrination.

Speakup on January 14, 2011 at 11:07 AM

A bit off topic but there is something reminiscent of Reagan in the way John Green has responded to his daughter’s murder. The quote from his interview that he acccepts his daughter’s death as preferable to the loss of Liberty that may have kept her alive reflects a Reagan speech I remember from the early 80s before Glasnost, when the prospects for peace with the Evil Empire were at a nadir.Does anyone remember Reagan’s exact quote. It was something about is better for a child to die in a nuclear war than grow up under Communism,knowing neither Liberty nor God.

xkaydet65 on January 14, 2011 at 11:09 AM

I will give these communist ideologues one thing, they are very sophisticate & persistent.

Badger40

as persistent as badgers?

audiculous on January 14, 2011 at 11:10 AM

Marx still controls our senate and the Whitehouse, start with the schools, no more indoctrination.

Speakup on January 14, 2011 at 11:07 AM

Via the HA link, I took the Const Quiz.
I was pleased that I only was iffy on 1 question, couldn’t remember the 1st Amm. as the religion & not due process.
Everyone should go take the quiz.
The info regarding %’s of people flunking is truly frightening.
But I would wager my fellow Hot Arians will score well.

Badger40 on January 14, 2011 at 11:11 AM

as persistent as badgers?

audiculous on January 14, 2011 at 11:10 AM

Oh yes. I think so.
They are very vicious creatures.
I watched somone shoot a spear gun into the head of a nasty badger like 20 times before it died.

Badger40 on January 14, 2011 at 11:12 AM

Marx still controls our senate and the Whitehouse, start with the schools, no more indoctrination.

Speakup

yes, the schools must be burnt, the fire will purify. the ghost of Marx must be burned out of the children.

yes, yes, yes.

Purity Of Essence.

audiculous on January 14, 2011 at 11:13 AM

It was something about is better for a child to die in a nuclear war than grow up under Communism,knowing neither Liberty nor God.

xkaydet65 on January 14, 2011 at 11:09 AM

I do not remember it exactly, but in kind hearing it as a kid.
My parents were not at all political & neither was I as a kid.
But I remember Reagan’s speeches gave me goosebumps.
He made me proud for my country.
It’s too bad Clinto didn’t feel that way.
Now look at poor little Elian Gonzales.
Too bad his mother died for nothing.

Badger40 on January 14, 2011 at 11:14 AM

…my fellow Hot Arians…

Badger40 on January 14, 2011 at 11:11 AM

Hmmm, perhaps another term of endearment would be in order? :-)

Though, I am German, and in my day, yeah, I was hot.

coldwarrior on January 14, 2011 at 11:14 AM

Still, what were old communists to do when the Cold War broke & the Wall fell?
Nothing to do but find another vehicle of power.
Environmentalism surely fits their needs.

Hey Badger 40, are you right on target. The head communist (Gorby) that insisted that communism didn’t fail after his walls against freedom fell, became…tah, dah….the head of Green Cross (eco-ism) of the World. Who needs Vopoes with machine guns shooting children when eco – worship will do the job with less blood?

Don L on January 14, 2011 at 11:20 AM

coldwarrior on January 14, 2011 at 11:14 AM

LOL!

My fellow American.

Badger40 on January 14, 2011 at 11:21 AM

when eco – worship will do the job with less blood?

Don L on January 14, 2011 at 11:20 AM

Spot on.
So many people I know think that couldn’t possibly be true.
Reading Whittaker Chamber’s book Witness, along with the one Dupes I am currently reading now just drives home how dedicated these idealogues really are.
I’m not a conspiratory person.
However, these people are & were very well organized & sohpisticated in their methods.
And it is all on paper for us to see.
I really to recommend at least reading Dupes.

Badger40 on January 14, 2011 at 11:24 AM

Russian reporter Andrei Sitov from TASS

TASS (Telegraphic Agency of the Soviet Union) was the official USSR news agency and ceased to exist under that name when the USSR did. The official Russian news agency is ITAR.

bgoldman on January 14, 2011 at 11:24 AM

Hmmm, perhaps another term of endearment would be in order? :-)

coldwarrior on January 14, 2011 at 11:14 AM

Haught Aryans??

TugboatPhil on January 14, 2011 at 11:26 AM

audiculous on January 14, 2011 at 11:13 AM

Who’s posting violence rhetoric? You are.

Speakup on January 14, 2011 at 11:40 AM

Who’s posting violence rhetoric? You are.

Speakup

fire not good?

audiculous on January 14, 2011 at 11:47 AM

Two words: Andrei Chikatilo.

DrSteve on January 14, 2011 at 12:03 PM

We need someone with whom we can all be angry — a handy whipping post to berate and mock.

Am I the only one who agrees with Sitov’s comment? It seems to me that he is saying that our freedom allows the occasional nut to kill people, wheras the Soviet system is to put dissidents along with nuts in institutions where they have less ability to cause conflict. He does not imply that the Soviet system is superior to ours.

burt on January 14, 2011 at 12:11 PM

audiculous=troll

Zero contribution other than to incite.

Speakup on January 14, 2011 at 12:14 PM

Obama agrees with this guy more than he disagrees with him.

angryed on January 14, 2011 at 12:17 PM

refutation is not incitement, it’s valuable correction.

you could look those words up and learn the distinction.

audiculous on January 14, 2011 at 12:18 PM

audiculous=troll

Zero contribution other than to incite.

Speakup on January 14, 2011 at 12:14 PM

They will never go away until people stop responding to them. I can’t for the life of me figure out why people keep going back for more.

angryed on January 14, 2011 at 12:18 PM

burt on January 14, 2011 at 12:11 PM

By merely making the comparison…in Russia we put dissidents and nutjobs in institutions…is indeed stating that the Russian method is better than our chaotic freedom-based system, hence the Soviet[sic] system is superior.

coldwarrior on January 14, 2011 at 12:20 PM

I do not believe this could EVER happen in America.
We are just too individualistic for an ideology like that to ever take place.

Badger40 on January 14, 2011 at 10:51 AM

We used to be like that. Every year millions of high school kids graduate with 12 year of indoctrination by socialists. Look at any textbook today and the individual is reviled while the state is glorified. You could take a textbook from 1952 USSR, translate it to English and you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference.

angryed on January 14, 2011 at 12:21 PM

Meant to add….

And it starts at a very young age. Look at any TV show aimed at kids. What is the message always? SHARING. We all have to share. And if anyone doesn’t share, well that’s just being mean. It’s is socialism for tots and that message of sharing continues into adulthood. You make $200K a year? That’s unfair. You have to share that with the bum next door who doesn’t work. It’s not fair that he has less than you. And if you oppose sharing, well, you’re just mean (and racist).

angryed on January 14, 2011 at 12:24 PM

Look at any textbook today and the individual is reviled while the state is glorified. You could take a textbook from 1952 USSR, translate it to English and you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference.
angryed

nonsense.

name a textbook widely in use in this country today that reviles the individual.

audiculous on January 14, 2011 at 12:25 PM

In Soviet Union, freedom of press shoots you.

Christien on January 14, 2011 at 12:28 PM

And if you oppose sharing, well, you’re just mean (and racist).

angryed

(and unChristian)

audiculous on January 14, 2011 at 12:34 PM

They will never go away until people stop responding to them. I can’t for the life of me figure out why people keep going back for more.

angryed on January 14, 2011 at 12:18 PM

I agree, other than a loon like this also has a tendency to put off people who would otherwise have a real contribution to make. Which is the goal of lib trolls.

Speakup on January 14, 2011 at 1:34 PM

Russian reporter claims Tucson shootings the result of American freedom

Really? OK, then what does a school massacre that kills 300 say about Russia?

Scrappy on January 14, 2011 at 1:42 PM

Scrappy on January 14, 2011 at 1:42 PM

That’s gonna sting. :-)

coldwarrior on January 14, 2011 at 1:44 PM

OK, then what does a school massacre that kills 300 say about Russia?

Scrappy

it says that Chechens and Islamists don’t like Russians and Russian children.

audiculous on January 14, 2011 at 2:21 PM

What about Russia’s poisoning journalists and politicians with plutonium or other toxic substances? What does that say about their society?

eaglewingz08 on January 14, 2011 at 5:05 PM

eaglewingz08, what do you need to know? Russia is even more corrupt now than before the Commies crashed. It was run by a rotten clique then and it is run by a rotten clique now.

audiculous on January 14, 2011 at 5:10 PM

And Russias alcholism rate is a direct reflection of repression

BigMike252 on January 15, 2011 at 11:13 AM

Thank you, Andrei Sitov. Thank you for saying exactly the same thing many on the American left have been either implying or saying outright. Thank you for putting in perspective the mindset from which this sentiment springs.

American conservative pundits could have spared much of their effort this week and just waited for Mr. Sitov to make their point for them, with an elegance impossible to concoct deliberately.

J.E. Dyer on January 15, 2011 at 1:07 PM