No, Boehner didn’t “snub” memorial rally

posted at 1:36 pm on January 13, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

This obnoxious meme began last night when word got out that House Speaker John Boehner didn’t travel with Barack Obama to Arizona for last night’s memorial in Tucson.  Boehner snubbed Obama!  He snubbed Giffords! As Brian Beutler points out at TPM, a look at the schedule makes it clear that Boehner had little choice but to stay in DC (via Radley Balko at Reason):

House Speaker John Boehner is catching a lot of flack for missing last night’s memorial service in Tucson, reportedly declining an Air Force One invitation from President Obama in order to slap backs and clink glasses at an RNC event.

But a look at the timeline of events paints Boehner in a better light.

Yesterday, House members attended a vigil for victims of the Arizona shooting spree in an auditorium underneath the Capitol Visitor’s Center. As they trickled in, a House aide provided reporters, including me, a glimpse of the program of events and list of speakers. There was one small revision to the schedule, though: Minority Whip Steny Hoyer would be reading Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi’s portion of scripture, because she was on her way to Tucson with the President.

If Boehner had accepted the invitation, then the leaders of both parties would have missed the Wednesday vigil.

Presented with this recollection of events, Boehner’s spokesman Michael Steel confirmed, and defended his boss. “Boehner would not have been able to attend the bipartisan prayer service if he’d gone to Tucson,” he said. “Yesterday, Rep. Giffords’ colleagues on both sides of the aisle honored her and mourned those who were lost. The Speaker felt his place was here in the House, with them.”

Boehner’s role as leader of the House was to be on Capitol Hill to lead the House in its own memorial for Giffords’ aide and its vigil for its member.  Pelosi, as the leader of her caucus, could have appropriately chosen either venue for her public appearance.  Both chose wisely, and both spent their time appropriately honoring the fallen.

Similarly, a lot of criticism over the memorial last night seems to have been misdirected.  People are blaming the White House for the “Together We Thrive” t-shirts that were distributed last night, but that appears to have been a local effort by students at the college, who chose the University of Arizona’s color:

At memorial services for other incidents of national tragedy, the atmosphere has been decidedly more somber. During former president Bill Clinton’s speech after the Oklahoma bombing memorial, for example, applause broke out only a few times, and the clapping was much more subdued.

Some big differences exist, however. Much of the focus was on the hope for the family of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and 12 other victims who are still healing from their injuries. The crowd Wednesday night responded joyfully, especially to the news that Giffords had opened one eye in the hospital a short time earlier, and to Obama’s praise of the heroism of Giffords intern Daniel Hernandez.

The venue also differed. Clinton gave his speech at a State Fair arena, whereas a college hosted Obama. The college students created the logo, and passed out t-shirts for the event, possibly imbuing it with more of a pep rally feel.

I too was put off by the cheering, whistling, and catcalling that took place, especially early in the ceremony, and I think that the university’s president, Robert Shelton, could have set a better tone by dialing down the enthusiasm with which he introduced the speakers.  But the speakers themselves took an appropriately reflective tone during the event, and the crowd seemed to finally realize that the party atmosphere was a little off when Obama delivered his speech.  In any case, it doesn’t appear that the White House had anything to do with the t-shirts or stoking the reaction from the crowd that so many found disconcerting; those concerns should be directed to the university instead.

Also, some are accusing Obama of “lying” about Giffords opening her eyes for the first time that day, pointing to a report on Sunday that left some with the impression that she had already accomplished that.  Jake Tapper reports on the confusion:

President Obama’s dramatic news at last night’s memorial service in Tucson that Rep. Gabrielle Giffords’ has just minutes before opened her left eye for the first time since the shooting has created some confusion in light of news from doctors that Giffords “could open her eyes” on Sunday.

But doctors today provided a simple explanation: Wednesday was the first time Giffords opened her eyes on her own, which Giffords’ neurosurgeon, Dr. Michael Lemole Thursday called “a major milestone.”

“When we examine patients, particularly in this state we have to ‘wake them up,’ give them some stimulus, and with that stimulus they might crack their eyes,” Lemole said today. “That’s very different from speaking to someone and having them open their eyes, or having them open their eyes spontaneously in response to familiarity.” …

The president’s remarks were meant, the White House says, to convey that she had opened her eyes on her own for the first time.

Even if the remark turned out to be incorrect, it wouldn’t necessarily have been a “lie,” either.  That’s something conservatives have pointed out repeatedly when people accuse George Bush of “lying” to get us into a war in Iraq over intelligence about WMD.  It would have applied in this case as well had Obama been mistaken — which as it turns out, he wasn’t.

We have enough to debate, discuss, and do without focusing on these things.


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John Boehner (Saturday Night Live “crybaby” skit) the Speaker must be another SPAWN OF SATAN (per the Blood Libel media).

Wait until he gets Palinized.

PappyD61 on January 13, 2011 at 1:39 PM

He damn sure “snubbed” the repeal of ObamaCare – and it didn’t take much to get him to do it.

WE ARE RUDDERLESS.

HondaV65 on January 13, 2011 at 1:39 PM

without focusing on these things.

Words matter. Optics matter.

publiuspen on January 13, 2011 at 1:40 PM

I’m sure the mainstream outlets that ran with this will gladly and rapidly be issuing clarifications, retractions, corrections and editor’s notes.

0_o

Good Lt on January 13, 2011 at 1:40 PM

Has anyone seen the Birth Certificate?..:)

Dire Straits on January 13, 2011 at 1:40 PM

Re:boehner, it doesn’t matter what the truth is, they continue to bash

cmsinaz on January 13, 2011 at 1:42 PM

Presidential line of succession also has to be considered, and Joke Biden was in Afghanistan.

slickwillie2001 on January 13, 2011 at 1:42 PM

Leave Obama Alone!!

portlandon on January 13, 2011 at 1:42 PM

Well, isn’t it interesting that a man who hasn’t an honest bone in his body, who has lied with most every breath he has exhaled as President, who has done nothing but denigrate this country overseas at almost every opportunity, etc, etc, etc may have finally done something positive and isn’t given the benefit of the doubt?

catmman on January 13, 2011 at 1:43 PM

At least B.O. did not precede the line about Giffords opening her eyes for the first time with something along the lines of >”And lo, didst I passeth my hand over her and sayeth in a loud voice, HEAL!”…. or I suspect the whole place would have erupted into to an absolute frenzy of religious ectasy!

pilamaye on January 13, 2011 at 1:45 PM

Our college students have little notion of proper decorum it seems.

jeanie on January 13, 2011 at 1:45 PM

Agree optics do matter…..if this was W, they would place the blame of the university squarely on his head. No ifs ands or buts

Im tired this double standard crap

cmsinaz on January 13, 2011 at 1:46 PM

Ed, you are really enough of a sucker to believe the President of the United States was not informed of the logo or T-shirts? I’m not buying it. His people, and especially his security detail, HAD to know and he had the opportunity to say that this is inappropriate. He didn’t, so he let the party rally atmosphere take hold.

Still an Obamateurism.

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on January 13, 2011 at 1:46 PM

Isn’t this new “civility” a beautiful thing?!!

PrincipleStand on January 13, 2011 at 1:46 PM

Even if Boehner wasn’t “busy” I wouldn’t have attended this if I were him.Despite the fact that Obama gave a adequate speech it turned out like I knew it would.So the College was to blame for the shirts and Giffords did open her eyes, it still was a fawning spectacle not in the least bit respectful of the victims. It was a campaign rally pure and simple.The Indian Shamans blessing was the topping on the cake for me. My two cents worth.

sandee on January 13, 2011 at 1:47 PM

BTW, has Allahpundit recovered enough from his 0bama leg tingles from last night to do the night shift ? (I was thinking he might be camping out at Chris Matthews today to compare thrills)

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on January 13, 2011 at 1:47 PM

“People are blaming the White House for the “Together We Thrive” t-shirts that were distributed last night, but that appears to have been a local effort by students at the college, who chose the University of Arizona’s color.”

Ed, with all due respect, while I am sure the effort was spearheaded by the college and not the White House, surely we are not naive enough to believe that the White House, being the most powerful executive body in all of the land, was not let in on this before proceedings got underway. With the knowledge of t-shirts being handed out, and the CONCESSIONS BEING OPEN, surely any White House, acting in the interest of decency, would have asked to cease with the “pep rally” like atmosphere.

Indy82 on January 13, 2011 at 1:48 PM

Why *was* Big Sis there, giving a speech?! Are politically appointed cabinet members now appropriate speakers for a mourning event?!

Skywise on January 13, 2011 at 1:48 PM

Believe me – if Obama had told Boehner to “be there” … John Boehner would have moved hell and high water to get there.

He always obeys his boss.

HondaV65 on January 13, 2011 at 1:48 PM

We have enough to debate, discuss, and do without focusing on these things.

Oh ok dad.

SirGawain on January 13, 2011 at 1:49 PM

Turning the other cheeck…

d1carter on January 13, 2011 at 1:49 PM

Ed why do you even bother?

Magnus on January 13, 2011 at 1:50 PM

“People are blaming the White House for the “Together We Thrive” t-shirts that were distributed last night, but that appears to have been a local effort by students at the college, who chose the University of Arizona’s color.”

Having served at the White House and been involved in planning and setting up these events – I can assure you those T-Shirs WERE APPROVED by White House Staff. There is no aspect – repeat – no aspect of a Presidential appearance left to chance – it’s all micromanaged kiddies.

HondaV65 on January 13, 2011 at 1:50 PM

Why *was* Big Sis there, giving a speech?! Are politically appointed cabinet members now appropriate speakers for a mourning event?!

Skywise on January 13, 2011 at 1:48 PM

Well, she is the former Governor of Arizona. So there’s that.

Abby Adams on January 13, 2011 at 1:51 PM

MM and the NYT both report that the crowd booed Republican Governor Jan Brewer as she spoke, followed almost immediately by loud cheers when Janet Napolitano took the stage. Taking this with the T-shirts, one might be forgiven for mistaking the memorial for a political rally, and not too different from the memorial for the late Senator Wellstone. Given this administrations penchant for turning everything into a partisan opportunity, one might also be forgiven for believing the White House was not entirely ignorant.

Socratease on January 13, 2011 at 1:51 PM

Agree optics do matter…..if this was W, they would place the blame of the university squarely on his head. No ifs ands or buts

Im tired this double standard crap

cmsinaz on January 13, 2011 at 1:46 PM

So Bush was to blame for the Mission Accomplished banner after all?

I get what you’re saying about the media’s double standard; I’ve spent the last five days writing about it. That doesn’t mean I have to adopt it.

Ed Morrissey on January 13, 2011 at 1:52 PM

We have enough to debate, discuss, and do without focusing on these things.

What? Like the repeal of ObamaCare? Hell – that’s been cancelled by Boehner.

We have all the time in the world to spend on this stuff Ed. The GOP isn’t going to debate or do a damn thing.

HondaV65 on January 13, 2011 at 1:52 PM

In any case, it doesn’t appear that the White House had anything to do with the t-shirts or stoking the reaction from the crowd that so many found disconcerting; those concerns should be directed to the university instead.

Anyone who believes this is incredibly naive. Obama ran for POTUS based on his qualifications in running a campaign, a campaign that won awards for messaging and imaging. But now that he is leader of the free world his staff has no control over how an event pulls off? They don’t select the venue? They – or the secret service – don’t decide what items are allowed to remain in the hall where the POTUS is speaking? What a crock.

If Obama’s team had not wanted the tone they got last night, they would have done something about it. One word from Obama would have shut off the cheering acolytes. One statement by Obama’s handlers would have put those t-shirts back in the box.

But now that we know it’s a “student group” that could afford to print up thousands of t-shirts on short notice, it will be simple to find out at this State University who provided the funds.

Arizona residents should contact a member of the U of A Foundation Board of Trustees and demand an explanation. It’s your university. If you’re an alumnus, try to find someone from around your graduating class year. If not, try to find one with whom you have some common frame of reference, either through your work life or personal contacts.

You should also contact the admissions office and let them know you will not be sending (or referring) your kids or grandkids or friends’ kids to the U of A. Tell them you’re sending them to ASU. (Better yet, send them to a university in Utah, just sayin’.)

And, if you are of an age to be making will provisions, then contact the Office of Gift Planning at the U of A Foundation. And tell them that you have cut them out of your will. The planned giving office is usually very responsive to that sort of feedback from donors/donor prospects and will pass it along to the right people in the University if they get enough of them.

Y-not on January 13, 2011 at 1:54 PM

So Bush was to blame for the Mission Accomplished banner after all?

Ed Morrissey on January 13, 2011 at 1:52 PM

HA! Ed on the offensive!

Abby Adams on January 13, 2011 at 1:54 PM

So Bush was to blame for the Mission Accomplished banner after all?

Ed Morrissey on January 13, 2011 at 1:52 PM

Yes.

And who cares? He RECEIVED the blame did he not? But yes, the White House staff micromanages everything – and someone on the staff said … “Yeah – that banner’s okay”.

You need to quit listening to Tokyo Rove’s excuses for Bush’s mistakes.

HondaV65 on January 13, 2011 at 1:54 PM

Doctor presser today said the TV was on and showing the “president’s” speech when she opened her eye.

Rep. Wasserman-Schultz and Senator Kirsten Gillibrand said they were in the hospital room when she opened her eye.

Therefore, Wasserman-Shultz and Gillibrand skipped out on the prez.

crash72 on January 13, 2011 at 1:55 PM

without focusing on these things.
Words matter. Optics matter.

publiuspen on January 13, 2011 at 1:40 PM

Yep. Heh.

WordsMatter on January 13, 2011 at 1:55 PM

“In any case, it doesn’t appear that the White House had anything to do with the t-shirts…”

Balderdash. In an event where the Prez is the headliner, there is nothing about it that the White House and Secret Service doesn’t control. Not security, not the messaging, not the program, nothing. Granted, that dippy University honcho played a big part in whipping up the crowd, but if you think the WH didn’t know about & approve the T-shirts & rally atmosphere, you’re fooling yourself.

KS Rex on January 13, 2011 at 1:55 PM

Having served at the White House and been involved in planning and setting up these events – I can assure you those T-Shirs WERE APPROVED by White House Staff. There is no aspect – repeat – no aspect of a Presidential appearance left to chance – it’s all micromanaged kiddies.

HondaV65 on January 13, 2011 at 1:50 PM

I’ve also got hard to believe the president or his people isn’t fully informed of every detail.

It wasnt a casual event.

Reminds of the NYC air force one fly by.

the_nile on January 13, 2011 at 1:56 PM

Point taken Ed

cmsinaz on January 13, 2011 at 1:57 PM

Y-not

Who are you, and why do you feel you know better than the people of Arizona or the people the hosted and attended the event to dictate to anyone of them how they should hold a memorial? Now you want to try and get people to penalize the college because they didn’t do something the way YOU wanted them to?

Get over yourselves.

Magnus on January 13, 2011 at 1:57 PM

I can almost hear what SanFranNan said, “I’ve got to be on that plane to Tucson. No way am I going to miss the photo op with the victims’ families. Those pictures will look great on my fundraising flyer.”

WordsMatter on January 13, 2011 at 1:57 PM

I get what you’re saying about the media’s double standard; I’ve spent the last five days writing about it. That doesn’t mean I have to adopt it.
Ed Morrissey on January 13, 2011 at 1:52 PM

That’s why we continually lose the PR/media wars.
Because we decide to be passive and’play nice’, while the MFM’s false and vicious memes are relentlessly pounded and repeated and become adopted and accepted as ‘common truth’.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on January 13, 2011 at 1:57 PM

“What? Like the repeal of ObamaCare? Hell – that’s been cancelled by Boehner.”

Am I missing something? I admit I have been in meetings this morning, but who cancelled an Obamacare repeal? Boehner simply postponed all Congressional business for the week as a result of the AZ shootings. Am I wrong?

Indy82 on January 13, 2011 at 1:57 PM

I’m planning on inviting the president to speak at the stadium near my home. I know that he’ll come, because he apparently always accepts every invitation.

Best of all, it will be novelty bat day the day of the event.

/s

Y-not on January 13, 2011 at 1:58 PM

OK, we get it…the liberal shills hate conservatives. Like all the other liberal ideas, this one is wayyyy old. Can’t they ever come up with something new?

search4truth on January 13, 2011 at 1:58 PM

Stupid move on Boehner’s part. Yes it’s a meaningless gesture to go to AZ. But he should have known this would be the reaction.

angryed on January 13, 2011 at 1:58 PM

Has there been any explanation of the crowd booing the sitting Governor of Arizona. You know, what they really meant…I wouldn’t want there to be any confusion.

d1carter on January 13, 2011 at 1:59 PM

People are blaming the White House for the “Together We Thrive” t-shirts that were distributed last night, but that appears to have been a local effort by students at the college,

Is the opinion of a lefty reporter really proof that it was the students idea for the t-shirts?

txhsmom on January 13, 2011 at 1:59 PM

Yes, none of the hundreds of white house folks involved in the event had any idea those t-shirts would be on the chairs and of course before the event, no white house staff had any wherewithall to have the t-shirts removed. The White House was simply powerless to do anything in the face of having to demonstrate leadership. Sell excuses somewhere else.

WordsMatter on January 13, 2011 at 2:00 PM

Has there been any explanation of the crowd booing the sitting Governor of Arizona. You know, what they really meant…I wouldn’t want there to be any confusion.

d1carter on January 13, 2011 at 1:59 PM

Would be nice to hear an explanation.

the_nile on January 13, 2011 at 2:01 PM

By Boehner staying in DC and not traveling, he actually kept in balance the status of the US govt. Biden is in Iraq and obama on the plane. If, God Forbid, something wouldve happened to obama, Boehner would have temporarily become pres according to the 25th ammendment, so it actually makes sense for him to stay in DC

ConservativePartyNow on January 13, 2011 at 2:01 PM

Can anyone explain why the Yacqui Indian was there and what the heck was he talking about?

pilamaye on January 13, 2011 at 2:02 PM

It was an inappropriate venue for a President to give a memorial speech.
This should have been done from the Oval Office or if OBlah Blah was so intent upon hijacking a crowd, no matter what the crowd was there for, he should have, as a leader, told them to be quiet and respectful.

But the good news is that if the Repugnantcans don’t let the demrats roll them again and sit side by side comingled with the rats at the SOTU speech then all gloves are off anything goes, cheering booing our calling out the LIAR as a LIAR!

The precedent has been set at this “Memorial”, anything goes!

Repugnantcans do not fall for this side by side proposal at the SOTU, it is a ploy to negate the usual standing and applauding by the Dems and the remaining seated by the oppostition, it is a ploy to make the LIAR IN CHIEF look good and bi-partisan, he may be Bi but he certainly is not bi-partisan and we don’t expect you will be either!

dhunter on January 13, 2011 at 2:02 PM

Presidential line of succession also has to be considered, and Joke Biden was in Afghanistan.

slickwillie2001 on January 13, 2011 at 1:42 PM

That was my very first thought when I saw the list of those who would be attending. With Plugs out of the country, the Speaker is next in line to ascend to the presidency. That creates a serious security issue and, in hindsight, it was wise that Boehner stayed in Washington. It’s also quite obvious that 99% of the college crowd was young Democrats and had Boehner gone it would have given them one more person to “boo”.

GoldenEagle4444 on January 13, 2011 at 2:03 PM

ALL political figures must bow before our all-blessed American God.

George W. Bush, Palin, Boehner, Rush, the media, Beck, Coulter, Levin, Ingraham, all Members of the Supreme Court, all.

Never before have a President’s hands healed a person.

He must have touched her.

The Blood Libel Media SWOONS!!

PappyD61 on January 13, 2011 at 2:03 PM

The Native Americans in our family cringed. The blessing was a rant about being a messican er sumptin. Our local Chief could do the blessing in his Native
language with grace and dignity. Looks like they retreaded Ward Churchill.

Col.John Wm. Reed on January 13, 2011 at 2:03 PM

We have enough to debate, discuss, and do without focusing on these things

Cant be said enough. Healthcare Repeal and Redo, govt encroachment into the private sector, and J-O-B-S!

canditaylor68 on January 13, 2011 at 2:04 PM

I’ve also got hard to believe the president or his people isn’t fully informed of every detail.

It wasnt a casual event.

Reminds of the NYC air force one fly by.

the_nile on January 13, 2011 at 1:56 PM

The T-Shirts were placed on the back of each seat BEFORE the crowd entered the venue. They weren’t handed out at the door, before or after, the event – they were placed PRIOR TO the event on each chair.

Pre-Event, is always a frenetic time with the White House Staff, Secret Service, and Local staff running about getting things ready – but there always, always, always one guy in charge and that’s the White House Staff lead of that event. He (or she) saw those T-Shirts before the event … inquired about them … and APPROVED them. And that’s the nicest possible scenario I can come up with because …

What actually probably happened is the T-Shirts were approved by the White House Staff in Washington DC long before the event took place. You have to remember – it took time to design and print the t-shirts and I can’t imagine the students doing that without White House approval days before.

I hope this puts this issue to rest. The White House OWNS those T-shirts.

HondaV65 on January 13, 2011 at 2:04 PM

Yes, none of the hundreds of white house folks involved in the event had any idea those t-shirts would be on the chairs and of course before the event, no white house staff had any wherewithall to have the t-shirts removed. The White House was simply powerless to do anything in the face of having to demonstrate leadership. Sell excuses somewhere else.

WordsMatter on January 13, 2011 at 2:00 PM

I second that.
From what little I tuned in, I could not believe I was watching a memorial service.
I thought it was a freaking pep rally.
OMG these people are disgusting.
How many funerals have any of us been too where you got frigging PARTY FAVORS?

Badger40 on January 13, 2011 at 2:04 PM

He damn sure “snubbed” the repeal of ObamaCare – and it didn’t take much to get him to do it.

WE ARE RUDDERLESS.
HondaV65 on January 13, 2011 at 1:39 PM

Nope, the Left knows who the leaders of the opposition are……and they are telling us LOUD AND CLEAR.

PappyD61 on January 13, 2011 at 2:04 PM

And the college students designed and paid for the shirts to be given out to attendees…you cannot be serious.

d1carter on January 13, 2011 at 2:04 PM

Yes, none of the hundreds of white house folks involved in the event had any idea those t-shirts would be on the chairs and of course before the event, no white house staff had any wherewithall to have the t-shirts removed. The White House was simply powerless to do anything in the face of having to demonstrate leadership. Sell excuses somewhere else.

WordsMatter on January 13, 2011 at 2:00 PM

I remember him cover up Jesus when he was in a church.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local-beat/Jesus-Missing-From-Obamas-Georgetown-Speech.html

the_nile on January 13, 2011 at 2:05 PM

Y-not

Who are you, and why do you feel you know better than the people of Arizona or the people the hosted and attended the event to dictate to anyone of them how they should hold a memorial? Now you want to try and get people to penalize the college because they didn’t do something the way YOU wanted them to?

Get over yourselves.

Magnus on January 13, 2011

Oh, so it was not the U of A, but actually the entire state of Arizona who decided on the tone of this event.

If the people of Arizona, the U of A alumni, and donors are so happy with how the pep rally went last night, I’m sure donations will go way up. (After all, ASU received no push back when they decided to award Obama an HDr, so obviously he’s an extremely popular figure there.) However, I’m a little confused why you are bothered that I am providing advice based on my professional experience on how Arizonans, alumni, and donors should communicate their happiness to their university.

Since you are so pleased with the event, I am sure your six-figure gift is on its way even now to AU.

ps: Next time you could save a lot of time and effort if you simply wrote “Shut up”?

Y-not on January 13, 2011 at 2:05 PM

At least B.O. did not precede the line about Giffords opening her eyes for the first time with something along the lines of >”And lo, didst I passeth my hand over her and sayeth in a loud voice, HEAL!”…. or I suspect the whole place would have erupted into to an absolute frenzy of religious ectasy!WORSHIP
pilamaye on January 13, 2011 at 1:45 PM

FIFY

PappyD61 on January 13, 2011 at 2:06 PM

Where did the money for printing all of these T-shirts (that were given away free?) come from?

journeyintothewhirlwind on January 13, 2011 at 2:07 PM

I get what you’re saying about the media’s double standard; I’ve spent the last five days writing about it. That doesn’t mean I have to adopt it.

Ed Morrissey on January 13, 2011 at 1:52 PM

Which is why I can rely on you to be one of the most credible and responsible bloggers to follow. Im sure others would agree with me.

canditaylor68 on January 13, 2011 at 2:08 PM

Isn’t this new “civility” a beautiful thing?!!

PrincipleStand on January 13, 2011 at 1:46 PM

We still aren’t civil enough. If we were, this website would be shut down and we would be shouting catcalls far and wide.

Electrongod on January 13, 2011 at 2:08 PM

BTW, Ed. You do realize that the “Boehner snubbed the Memorial (Rally)” will now be the accepted eternal truth because it’s the one being worked by the left/media hive.
Your polite, one time refutation means absolutely nothing in the media world.
(Just remember to adhere to those Marquis of Queensbury rules.)

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on January 13, 2011 at 2:08 PM

Y-not

Who are you, and why do you feel you know better than the people of Arizona or the people the hosted and attended the event to dictate to anyone of them how they should hold a memorial? Now you want to try and get people to penalize the college because they didn’t do something the way YOU wanted them to?

Get over yourselves.

Magnus on January 13, 2011

Oh, so it was not the U of A, but actually the entire state of Arizona who decided on the tone of this event.

If the people of Arizona, the U of A alumni, and donors are so happy with how the pep rally went last night, I’m sure donations will go way up. (After all, ASU received no push back when they decided to award Obama an HDr, so obviously he’s an extremely popular figure there.) However, I’m a little confused why you are bothered that I am providing advice based on my professional experience on how Arizonans, alumni, and donors should communicate their happiness to their university.

Since you are so pleased with the event, I am sure your six-figure gift is on its way even now to AU.

ps: Next time you could save a lot of time and effort if you simply wrote “Shut up”?

Y-not on January 13, 2011 at 2:05 PM

I don’t know who did it but yes, “shut up”. I don’t even make six figures. And never been to Arizona in my life, don’t send money to my own school. Why would I send them my money? What are you even talking about?

Magnus on January 13, 2011 at 2:09 PM

I’m planning on inviting the president to speak at the stadium near my home. I know that he’ll come, because he apparently always accepts every invitation.

Best of all, it will be novelty bat day the day of the event.

/s

Y-not on January 13, 2011 at 1:58 PM

You will merely have to guarantee him a good sized crowd, say maybe 300 and up and he will appear. He demonstrated last fall that he could not fill a phone booth on his own even in detroit and Cleveland.

The people have stopped listening to the LIAR much to the chagrin of krauthammer, Tokyo Rove, Frum , Brooks, Nooner, and Matthews.

I wonder what the viewership for the televised campaign stop was last night. i watched but I don’t know many who did and even fewer would have had he not drug 1/2 of DC to Tuscon with him for this OBlahBLah comeback celebration!

dhunter on January 13, 2011 at 2:09 PM

Boehner would have moved hell and high water to get there.

HondaV65 on January 13, 2011 at 1:48 PM

I may not know jack squat, but come heaven and earth, that’s a sweet mixaphor.

Christien on January 13, 2011 at 2:10 PM

The Great 2011 Passification of Conservatives has begun. You can see it happening on this Blog, on other conservative Blogs, and in the Conservative Media. The tide of opposing and resisting Obama and his minions is turning. The left’s attempt to passify the right and to control the narrative is succeeding. At times like this, posters need to stand up and tell the bloggers and conservative media to grow a backbone. Otherwise, everything we’ve worked to change over the past two years will go right into the dustbin. The Left is having it’s way with Conservative America right now.

WordsMatter on January 13, 2011 at 2:11 PM

Ed, by the way I think your outstanding and a voice of reason in all this terrible muck, even though I often disagree.

Magnus on January 13, 2011 at 2:11 PM

Why *was* Big Sis there, giving a speech?! Are politically appointed cabinet members now appropriate speakers for a mourning event?!

Skywise on January 13, 2011 at 1:48 PM
Well, she is the former Governor of Arizona. So there’s that.

Abby Adams on January 13, 2011 at 1:51 PM

OK. That seems pretty fair to me.

“What? Like the repeal of ObamaCare? Hell – that’s been cancelled by Boehner.”

Am I missing something? I admit I have been in meetings this morning, but who cancelled an Obamacare repeal? Boehner simply postponed all Congressional business for the week as a result of the AZ shootings. Am I wrong?

Indy82 on January 13, 2011 at 1:57 PM

Yes will someone please enlighten us? Bcs I have no clue about this at all.

Badger40 on January 13, 2011 at 2:12 PM

I don’t know who did it but yes, “shut up”. I don’t even make six figures. And never been to Arizona in my life, don’t send money to my own school. Why would I send them my money? What are you even talking about?

Magnus

You are not an Arizonan, but you’re asking me who I am to speak for Arizonans?! Thanks for the chuckle.

I’ll ask again: why are you concerned about alumni, donors, and citizens contacting the University if you are so convinced that the event went the way they wanted (as you indicated in your chiding post to me)?

ps: Here’s a link to the U of A Annual Fund so you can send them $20 with your “atta boy” on holding such a moving pep rally.

Y-not on January 13, 2011 at 2:13 PM

They are voting next week to repeal the Health care law. The postponed it for the week. That’s what I heard.

Magnus on January 13, 2011 at 2:14 PM

I don’t know who did it but yes, “shut up”. I don’t even make six figures. And never been to Arizona in my life, don’t send money to my own school. Why would I send them my money? What are you even talking about?

Magnus

You are not an Arizonan, but you’re asking me who I am to speak for Arizonans?! Thanks for the chuckle.

I’ll ask again: why are you concerned about alumni, donors, and citizens contacting the University if you are so convinced that the event went the way they wanted (as you indicated in your chiding post to me)?

ps: Here’s a link to the U of A Annual Fund so you can send them $20 with your “atta boy” on holding such a moving pep rally. I’m sure your support will mean a lot to the university.

Y-not on January 13, 2011 at 2:15 PM

The Left are relentless.

SlimyBill on January 13, 2011 at 2:15 PM

Get over yourselves.

Magnus on January 13, 2011

So Arizonans hold their funerals like they would a pep rally?
That is news to me.
And very weird.

Badger40 on January 13, 2011 at 2:16 PM

Am I missing something? I admit I have been in meetings this morning, but who cancelled an Obamacare repeal? Boehner simply postponed all Congressional business for the week as a result of the AZ shootings. Am I wrong?

Indy82 on January 13, 2011 at 1:57 PM

Yep … you missed it …

House was “supposed” to have repealed Obama Care yesterday … it was cancelled – and has not been rescheduled.

Part of the reason for the delay is not just the newly arranged Capital Hill memorials but the reluctance to hold a partisan vote on a matter which led to such divisive political differences earlier in the year and which has had many in the media blame for the recent shooting. A repeal vote on health care with its highly partisan undertones would contradict the current atmosphere of calls for political moderation in Congress, especially since Giffords was first the target of an attack due to her health care vote.

The best way to have solved this was for Boehner to come out and say … “This was a tragedy but it had nothing to do with politics or rhetoric and we’re proceeding with the vote.”

It would have taken 30 minutes for that vote to happen.

But instead – he gave credibility to the LSM’s claim that this was a politcal assasination attempt by a guy who was “egged on” by Conservative media and Sarah Palin.

By the way – has Boehner said a PEEP about this incident in defense of Conservatives?

No.

HondaV65 on January 13, 2011 at 2:17 PM

I am so glad Boehner wasn’t at that travesty of a rock star show last night.

Edouard on January 13, 2011 at 2:17 PM

So Arizonans hold their funerals like they would a pep rally?
That is news to me.

Magnus has special insight into Arizonans sitting in his basement hundreds of miles away.

Y-not on January 13, 2011 at 2:18 PM

You are not an Arizonan, but you’re asking me who I am to speak for Arizonans?! Thanks for the chuckle.

Y-not on January 13, 2011 at 2:15 PM

That is funny.
That memorial service was HIJACKED by the students in the audience & others.
It was a freaking circus.
It was disgusting.

Badger40 on January 13, 2011 at 2:18 PM

College students gotta get their T-shirts. An “adult” would have suggested using the money for a scholarship in the name of the victims.

GarandFan on January 13, 2011 at 2:19 PM

The criticism I heard of Boehner was that he was at an RNC fundraiser. NOT a prayer service. So apparently it was just more smearing of Republicans.

And again-there’s no way the WH didn’t know about the shirts. The whole atmosphere was inappropriate, and the story about Giffords opening her eyes was a blatant attempt to manufacture a moment.

One of these things could be forgiven, but there are too many coincidences here. The memorial was blatant propaganda.

PetecminMd on January 13, 2011 at 2:19 PM

HondaV65 on January 13, 2011 at 2:17 PM

So are they going to revisit it at all?
If that’s the way it went down, then I agree with your analysis.
It’s BS.

Badger40 on January 13, 2011 at 2:20 PM

Where did the money for printing all of these T-shirts (that were given away free?) come from?

journeyintothewhirlwind on January 13, 2011 at 2:07 PM

Probably “stimulus funds”

HondaV65 on January 13, 2011 at 2:20 PM

An “adult” would have suggested using the money for a scholarship in the name of the victims.

GarandFan on January 13, 2011 at 2:19 PM

What a wonderful idea.
But liberals don’t have wonderful ideas.

Badger40 on January 13, 2011 at 2:21 PM

From the New York Times lead editorial today …
“Mr. Obama called on ideological campaigners to stop vilifying their opponents. The only way to move forward after such a tragedy, he said, is to cast aside “point-scoring and pettiness.”

Now let’s square that with …
Today’s Media Narrative: Barack Obama Totally Kicked Sarah Palin’s Ass

… and now this. Obviously, we aren’t moving forward today.

J_Crater on January 13, 2011 at 2:21 PM

why bother dignifying the loons. It doesn’t matter what The speaker does. He’s gonna be wrong Cause he’s (on the) RIGHT.

roflmao

donabernathy on January 13, 2011 at 2:21 PM

Get over yourselves.

Magnus on January 13, 2011 at 1:57 PM

You’re right. They were free to design whatever kind of memorial they wanted. But, given that what they wanted was a free-wheeling political rally, they should have advertised it as such. They obviously gave no thought to the family members of those who died or they’d have realized that the raucous atmosphere they created was at best, insensitive, and at worst, insulting. Further, the impression they made on the national viewing audience is one of callousness and immaturity. But hey, they have the right, as you say.

Dee2008 on January 13, 2011 at 2:21 PM

and the story about Giffords opening her eyes was a blatant attempt to manufacture a moment.

PetecminMd on January 13, 2011 at 2:19 PM

And BO has done quite of bit of that kind of storytelling.
I imagine it is what helped get him elected.

Badger40 on January 13, 2011 at 2:22 PM

Ed Morrissey on January 13, 2011 at 1:52 PM

Unless I misread it, in Decision Points Bush accepted responsibility for the banner as a mistake.

So that’s kind of a non-starter. I don’t think you’ll find many people arguing that the Mission Accomplished banner made for poor optics and that the White House and ultimately the President has responsibility for it…responsibility Bush isn’t ducking.

On the other hand…how interesting the White House is now trying to duck responsibility for the optics at the pep rally. How disconcerting that there are so many people in the media willing to let them.

I rather agree with the others. If the White House said “No t-shirts, no concessions, and maintain a somber atmosphere” it would have happened. As with so many other things with this administration, the media is so willing to look at Obama’s words but utterly fail to notice his actions.

JohnTant on January 13, 2011 at 2:23 PM

Stupid move on Boehner’s part. Yes it’s a meaningless gesture to go to AZ. But he should have known this would be the reaction.

angryed on January 13, 2011 at 1:58 PM

Then the headline would be “Boener abandons duties in DC to take a spotlight in AZ!!!!”

He did what he saw as right and let the chips fall. That is the only thing you can do when the Press has a headline pre-written against you no matter what you do.

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on January 13, 2011 at 2:24 PM

who chose one of the University of Arizona’s two colors

Fixed.

Christien on January 13, 2011 at 2:24 PM

The better question is why WAS Nancy Pelosi there? She isn’t from Arizona. She isn’t Speaker anymore. But you can bet she had a front row seat on Air Force One, at our expense. Since she had to give up her private jet, she is taking any chance she can get to ride first class on the taxpayer’s dime.

She certainly would not have been there had Gabrielle Giffords been a Republican. Her presence made this a partisan event.

rockmom on January 13, 2011 at 2:25 PM

I don’t know who did it but yes, “shut up”. I don’t even make six figures. And never been to Arizona in my life, don’t send money to my own school. Why would I send them my money? What are you even talking about?

Magnus

You are not an Arizonan, but you’re asking me who I am to speak for Arizonans?! Thanks for the chuckle.

I’ll ask again: why are you concerned about alumni, donors, and citizens contacting the University if you are so convinced that the event went the way they wanted (as you indicated in your chiding post to me)?

ps: Here’s a link to the U of A Annual Fund so you can send them $20 with your “atta boy” on holding such a moving pep rally.

Y-not on January 13, 2011 at 2:13 PM

Cause I’m getting sick of people who say they support liberty telling everyone how they have to do everything and b**chin and whining about every little d*mn detail. Was it evena memorial? Some here are saying it was a funeral. It was not! And even if it was not every memorial/funeral has to be a big boo fest. Sometimes people want to feel uplifted and together. Who the hell knows. If Obama cried tears you’d say they were fake and this was a boo fest on him. If there were no t-shirts you’d be complaining about their being no t-shirts. If no one clapped you say proudly weren’t clapping because they didn’t like the President.

I’m sorry, really I am. I love this site and you guys have the right to your opinions I value a lot of them even if I believe they are wrong. It helps with balance of perspectives. I try to avoid commenting but the constant irrational whaaa whaaa whaaa-ing and teeth gnashing sometimes gets to be a bit much and sometimes pulls me out of lurkdom.

The left did this crap to Bush and it absolutely nauseating.

Magnus on January 13, 2011 at 2:27 PM

By the way – has Boehner said a PEEP about this incident in defense of Conservatives?

No.

HondaV65 on January 13, 2011 at 2:17 PM

When are you going to stop slandering John Boehner? Did he beat up your puppy or something? He is doing his job and doing it very well without pelple griping that he isn’t being partisan enugh for standing in the well of the House defending Sarah Palin’s honor. Give it a rest!

rockmom on January 13, 2011 at 2:28 PM

pilamaye on January 13, 2011 at 1:45 PM

ROFLMAO!!!

capejasmine on January 13, 2011 at 2:29 PM

Can anyone explain why the Yacqui Indian was there and what the heck was he talking about?

pilamaye on January 13, 2011 at 2:02 PM

I don’t know, but I’m part Blackfoot and I was offended. In fact, “offended” needs to be the “in” word for the year.

moonsbreath on January 13, 2011 at 2:29 PM

A bit off topic, but what the hell… Let’s see, female private citizen who is accused of complicity in murder feels she has no choice but to defend herself eloquently, succinctly, and honestly, is called ignorant, evil, stupid, a hater, opportunistic and self-aggrandizing.

President of the United States uses a massacre and the memory of its victims as an opportunity to resurrect his failing presidency and is called Presidential and strikes the right tone.

The world turned upside down.

WordsMatter on January 13, 2011 at 2:30 PM

Magnus on January 13, 2011 at 2:27 PM

You’re doing a pretty good impersonation of the very behavior you’re deploring.

Christien on January 13, 2011 at 2:30 PM

Thank you Boehner for not wasting more taxpayer money.

moonsbreath on January 13, 2011 at 2:31 PM

The better question is why WAS Nancy Pelosi there? She isn’t from Arizona. She isn’t Speaker anymore. But you can bet she had a front row seat on Air Force One, at our expense. Since she had to give up her private jet, she is taking any chance she can get to ride first class on the taxpayer’s dime.

She certainly would not have been there had Gabrielle Giffords been a Republican. Her presence made this a partisan event.

rockmom on January 13, 2011 at 2:25 PM

Pelosi, probably a nice lady, is a giant political scab and I’m glad she got beaten back.

Magnus on January 13, 2011 at 2:32 PM

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