New poll shows Americans still not buying media spin on Tucson shootings

posted at 8:48 am on January 13, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

The last poll from CBS that showed Americans rejecting the “extreme rhetoric” blame game was taken in the first couple of days after the shooting.  This Gallup poll for USA Today was conducted on Tuesday, with plenty of time for the media’s “magical thinking,” as Allahpundit put it, to mold public opinion.  It’s still no sale:

Most Americans reject the idea that inflammatory political language by conservatives should be part of the debate about the forces behind the Arizona shooting that left six people dead and a congresswoman in critical condition, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds.

A 53% majority of those surveyed call that analysis mostly an attempt to use the tragedy to make conservatives look bad. About a third, 35%, say it is a legitimate point about how dangerous language can be.

And there is little sense that stricter gun control laws in Arizona might have averted the tragedy. Only one in five say they would have prevented the shooting; 72% say tighter controls wouldn’t have prevented it.

To no one’s surprise, Democrats were more likely to claim it as a legitimate point, with 52% supporting the argument — but even 35% of Democrats think it is an attempt to attack conservatives.  Independents have just the reverse reaction, with 36% thinking the point is legitimate and 53% believing it to be intended to make conservatives look bad.  Republicans split 15/75 on the question.

On gun control, there is much more consensus that it would have done no good in Tucson.  Only a third of Democrats believe it would have made a difference, and 58% think stricter gun laws would have made no difference.  Independents split 19/72, and Republicans 8/89. If anyone wonders why very little has been said about gun control in the wake of the shooting, this should make it clear; gun control has stopped being a mainstream political position.

These are remarkable findings just three days after the tragedy.  Gallup concludes that Americans largely are not looking for scapegoats but are instead “laying responsibility for the shootings squarely on the alleged killer, perhaps due to his reported psychological problems.”  Let’s hope that’s the case.

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Palin is already leading……

(and it pisses off the *Progressive Axis of Evil to no end).

*DC Ruling Class / NYC Media and the Progressive Ivy League schools that feed them

PappyD61 on January 13, 2011 at 8:52 AM

Gallup concludes that Americans largely are not looking for scapegoats but are instead “laying responsibility for the shootings squarely on the alleged killer, perhaps due to his reported psychological problems.” Let’s hope that’s the case.

sarah was right!

cmsinaz on January 13, 2011 at 8:52 AM

Yeah, and I bet most Americans are not buying Obama’s “healing” speech, either, despite what the media tells them.

DaydreamBeliever on January 13, 2011 at 8:53 AM

I wonder if polls like this had any influence on the content of Obamas speech.

darwin on January 13, 2011 at 8:53 AM

That was quick.

Next time let’s see if our overlords (Ed,Allah) can resist joining in the tongue-bath. The boss emerita was not fooled.

gh on January 13, 2011 at 8:54 AM

Gallup concludes that Americans largely are not looking for scapegoats but are instead “laying responsibility for the shootings squarely on the alleged killer, perhaps due to his reported psychological problems.”

Yup, that’s because the American people have no agenda…unlike some malicious opportunists in politics and media.

RepubChica on January 13, 2011 at 8:54 AM

The boss emerita was not fooled.

gh on January 13, 2011 at 8:54 AM

She was great on Fox & Friends this AM. That is one uber-sharp woman.

RepubChica on January 13, 2011 at 8:55 AM

you won’t hear this poll on the blm

cmsinaz on January 13, 2011 at 8:56 AM

“laying responsibility for the shootings squarely on the alleged killer, perhaps due to his reported psychological problems.”

Just exactly the point Sarah Palin made in her statement. ……and just the opposite of what you are hearing from most democrats.

Maybe democrats can make up some T-shirts with
…”Proud to exploit War,Funerals,and Mass Murder to score political points” with a big Jacka$$ on the back.

How progressive!!!!

Baxter Greene on January 13, 2011 at 8:58 AM

This “blame game” started on Saturday with the idiot sheriff saying that talk radio and Fox were responsible. When pressed for any facts, he could not point one out. Why let the truth get in the way of a good accusation?

Wills on January 13, 2011 at 8:58 AM

sarah was right!

cmsinaz on January 13, 2011 at 8:52 AM

Snap!!!

Baxter Greene on January 13, 2011 at 8:59 AM

“laying responsibility for the shootings squarely on the alleged killer, perhaps due to his reported psychological problems.” Let’s hope that’s the case.

American citizens better than their political & chattering classes. This is why we have self government.

rbj on January 13, 2011 at 9:00 AM

OT: US to lose AAA credit rating ?

If you think the 2008 financial crisis was bad, ask yourself this: Who is big enough to bail out the United States? Answer: Nobody.

Note to Washington: If you thought the Tea Party looked like an angry mob, wait until you see what happens when Social Security checks start bouncing.

Kevin D. Williamson in the corner at NRO.

gh on January 13, 2011 at 9:00 AM

For once Mrs. Clinton was correct. All this guy has is his ability to deliver a speech written by speechwriters. Just platitudes none of his followers will go along with. Just take a short stroll to the Huffington Compost today and check out all the smears on conservatives, Republicans and Sarah Palin (at least 6 attack articles).

50sGuy on January 13, 2011 at 9:02 AM

Alternate headline: Majority of America still rooted in reality, Liberals plan to double down.

Does anyone really think that they’ll drop this meme? They are telling us that cold=warm for crying out loud.

Mord on January 13, 2011 at 9:02 AM

They need to spin a better poll that says there was not much media spin on Tucson shootings.

Geochelone on January 13, 2011 at 9:02 AM

Funny how using a blood libel against a majority of the population tends result in the mass rejection of the narrative that the media has been so desperately trying to push for the last five days.

Hellrider on January 13, 2011 at 9:03 AM

This poll from Rassmussen is even more devastating to the democrats political strategy to politicize Mass Murder:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/january_2011/most_voters_view_arizona_shootings_as_random_act_of_violence_not_politics

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that just 28% of Adults say the shooting in Arizona was the result of political anger in the country.

Now if only we could get elected Republicans to hold them accountable for their blood libel.

Baxter Greene on January 13, 2011 at 9:05 AM

Fine.

But Ed and Allah bought the spin on Obama’s pep rally.

BuckeyeSam on January 13, 2011 at 9:05 AM

Obvious blood libel is obvious.

And now every time some tragedy strikes, some of us will be waiting for the Blood Libel Media to find a way to blame Sarah Palin for it.

Aitch748 on January 13, 2011 at 9:07 AM

the Blood Libel Media. But they have accomplished their mission, thanks mainly to the eunuchs of the GOP.

james23 on January 13, 2011 at 9:09 AM

Not only doesn’t anyone believe the crap they are trying to sell – the President of the United States stated “It Did Not” Right after that, Rachel Maddow went on MSNBC and started her Palin’s to blame rant.

MSNBC is still ranting about Sarah Palin. Sarah Palin is getting “Death Threats” is it time for The Palin’s to get legal council? The people at MSNBC don’t understand how “libel” works, and that they aren’t exempt from being sued?

Many tabloid magazines have been successfully sued by high profile public figures. Celebrities win law suits against them libel and slander. I don’t think MSNBC’s lawyers have been consulted.

They are accusing Sarah Palin of inciting mass murder – that’s libel and slander. If Sarah Palin had been responsible, why does MSNBC think she hasn’t been brought in for questioning by the Authorities, and a Grand Jury convened?

There are so many reasons people don’t believe the crap MSNBC is spewing but mostly it’s because of the reputation of MSNBC as a Thug Run, crackpot outfit.

Dr Evil on January 13, 2011 at 9:09 AM

This is also a sad commentary on how easily our side’s pundits – and that can include the normally stable people at the National Review – can be manipulated like puppets to follow a media narrative.

Obama gives a flowery speech, and suddenly his strategy works like a charm. He appears above the fray, while his supporters are still blamecasting. Read the Politico’s resident Palin-basher (a National Review transplant) today. It’s all about how Obama’s the messiah again, and how Sarah Palin is such a rabble-rousing w____ that maybe somebody should kill her. It’s even complete with an anyonymous House Republican calling her a “dumb s___”!

KingGold on January 13, 2011 at 9:09 AM

Wonder if a lot of the “healing” that we are hearing that needs to take place in Arizona is due to democrats calling the citizens a “bunch of racist bigots” over the last year for wanting to enforce immigration laws????

Baxter Greene on January 13, 2011 at 9:10 AM

Fine.

But Ed and Allah bought the spin on Obama’s pep rally.

BuckeyeSam on January 13, 2011 at 9:05 AM

So did the Fox News talkers. That is the GOP position: Palin bad, Obama dreamy.

james23 on January 13, 2011 at 9:11 AM

Darn. Looks like the Two-Minute Hate thing didn’t work out so well for them this time.

Oh, look what they were trying to distract us from:

Oil nearing $100

U.S. may lose AAA credit rating

67% taxes in Illinois…

But SARAH PALIN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SHOOTING IN TUCSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

UnderstandingisPower on January 13, 2011 at 9:11 AM

The media spin?

Of course, we are not buying it.

After three years of being told that we know nothing and are a bunch of prejudiced ignorant loons (bitter clingers, perhaps?) for not campaigning for and voting for The One, the post-racial Presidential candidate, the smartest guy in the room, the One who would make the tides recede and the lame walk…by this same “media” is there any doubt that Americans in general would be disgusted, and are disgusted, at the performance of what in one time was called “news gathering” and “news commentary?”

It is propaganda one must suspect. Pandering at the very least.

And blame for the shootings?

Be honest. Loughner was and is off his nut. But why?

The liberal post-Doctor Spock generation hasn’t done such a good job of child rearing…leaving the complicated, boring and hard to do important stuff to the state, of course.

And Progressives will still shill for more gun control, more curtailment of our liberties…and in effect giving the Tucson creep a pass…because it was that atmosphere of Conservatism bigotry and bias and hate that set the tone all along.

The creep from Tucson did not become a killing machine just in the past few weeks…perhaps he has been for several years if the comments from his friends can be given credence. So, his parents had to be aware and if not, why not?

But let’s not allow the medias to try to blame Conservatives nor Conservative ideals for what took place in Arizona.

coldwarrior on January 13, 2011 at 9:12 AM

Give it time, they’ll massage those poll questions until they get the response they’re looking for. And does anyone seriously believe that Obama’s media minions are going to tone down the rhetoric against conservatives?

RedRedRice on January 13, 2011 at 9:12 AM

More Americans accept Tucson Trutherism (33%) than believe Obama is foreign-born (25%).
Remember how the media flipped out that so many people could doubt something so well-established?

Ya, about that…

JohnJ on January 13, 2011 at 9:15 AM

Americans largely are not looking for scapegoats but are instead “laying responsibility for the shootings squarely on the alleged killer

One thing to come out of the recent frenzy of reckless reporting is that we have a new word to add to the Lexacon…don’t do a “Krugman“.

Uniblogger on January 13, 2011 at 9:16 AM

“Ok people, in light of today’s poll results we obviously need to hit Palin harder. Let’s start blaming her for everything from the murder of Sharon Tate to the 1967 Arab/Israeli war. Come on people, let’s move it!”

-leftist garbage media

Bishop on January 13, 2011 at 9:16 AM

I wonder if polls like this had any influence on the content of Obamas speech.

darwin on January 13, 2011 at 8:53 AM

Highly likely.
The setting were prepared for a victory speech against conservatives. But their polling showed that their blood libel failed.

the_nile on January 13, 2011 at 9:16 AM

So when are Krugman,Olbermann,NY Times,CBS,NBC,ABC,CNN,MSNBC and many other democratic officials going to apologize to Giffords for exploiting her attempted murder for political gain??????

Baxter Greene on January 13, 2011 at 9:17 AM

I wonder if polls like this had any influence on the content of Obamas speech.

darwin on January 13, 2011 at 8:53 AM

As you know, the only time Alinsky-ites call for healing and compromise is when they know they’re getting beat.

Taking last night’s speech seriously requires a willing suspension of disbelief.

What interests me now is how the leftists and MSM will react to his seeming rejection of their Palin narrative, and how long he will live up to his own words.

petefrt on January 13, 2011 at 9:18 AM

“Ok people, in light of today’s poll results we obviously need to hit Palin harder. Let’s start blaming her for everything from the murder of Sharon Tate to the 1967 Arab/Israeli war. Come on people, let’s move it!”

-leftist garbage media

Bishop on January 13, 2011 at 9:16 AM

I couldn’t find my keys this morning….
….I know Palin took them.

Baxter Greene on January 13, 2011 at 9:18 AM

Gun control is history, and now to put that silly AGW into the same dust bin, and in light of Obama’s desire to slaughter post abortion babies, lets put that silly stuff about “it’s my body” and it’s only fetal tissue” into the dust bin o great historic lies, also. Next we need to work on the “death panels” as if people who slaughter liveing bbabies will stop at killing expensive and old folks to get at their estates.

Don L on January 13, 2011 at 9:21 AM

The President’s speech last night set exactly the right tone for an end to the politics of blood libel that have been going on. Good job, Mr Obama.

itsnotaboutme on January 13, 2011 at 9:21 AM

I couldn’t find my keys this morning….
….I know Palin took them.
Baxter Greene on January 13, 2011 at 9:18 AM

Normally when my keys disappear I know it’s the fault of one of the Jews scrabbling through my attic, using his Jew Claw to hook my keys off the table.

But you may have something here with Palin, she might just be evil enough to be in all of our houses.

Bishop on January 13, 2011 at 9:22 AM

Taking last night’s speech seriously requires a willing suspension of disbelief.

petefrt on January 13, 2011 at 9:18 AM

Yes, he should have told the AZ sheriff blaming conservatives to shut up. But instead he called him and thanked him.

the_nile on January 13, 2011 at 9:23 AM

This is also a sad commentary on how easily our side’s pundits – and that can include the normally stable people at the National Review – can be manipulated like puppets to follow a media narrative.

they ate it up with a spoon. Palin is far too confrontational for most GOP pols and pundits.They are much more comfortable going with the flow.

james23 on January 13, 2011 at 9:25 AM

Say, isn’t there a Senator or sumpin from Arizona that is a former Presidential candidate?

OkieDoc on January 13, 2011 at 9:27 AM

I will be very interested in Gabby’s take on this once she recovers. Will she go all bat$hit Brady Bill crazy on us or admit that there are risks in public service?

One thing she certainly will do is be horrified at the deaths and pain centered around the attack on her. I pray she doesn’t take any blame on herself. But I also hope she doesn’t use misplaced guilt to quash our individual freedoms.

csdeven on January 13, 2011 at 9:28 AM

the_nile on January 13, 2011 at 9:23 AM

Right. I’m wondering what he did and will do/say to soothe his base, which is no doubt blistering after his rebuke, however slight it may have been.

petefrt on January 13, 2011 at 9:29 AM

I couldn’t find my keys this morning….
….I know Palin took them.
Baxter Greene on January 13, 2011 at 9:18 AM
Normally when my keys disappear I know it’s the fault of one of the Jews scrabbling through my attic, using his Jew Claw to hook my keys off the table.

But you may have something here with Palin, she might just be evil enough to be in all of our houses.

Bishop on January 13, 2011 at 9:22 AM

She drew a target on your house, muttered an Assembly of God/voodoo (it’s all the same to lefties) incantation, and poof!, the keys disappeared.

Wethal on January 13, 2011 at 9:33 AM

If I had to choose whether or not the media was exploiting something, I know I’d put my money on them exploiting something.

ConDem on January 13, 2011 at 9:33 AM

“Ok people, in light of today’s poll results we obviously need to hit Palin harder. Let’s start blaming her for everything from the murder of Sharon Tate to the 1967 Arab/Israeli war. Come on people, let’s move it!”

-leftist garbage media

Bishop on January 13, 2011 at 9:16 AM
I couldn’t find my keys this morning….
….I know Palin took them.

Baxter Greene on January 13, 2011 at 9:18 AM

I want to know what she did with the Lindbergh baby.

ncc770 on January 13, 2011 at 9:37 AM

Highly likely.
The setting were prepared for a victory speech against conservatives. But their polling showed that their blood libel failed.

the_nile on January 13, 2011 at 9:16 AM

The democrats got their “Oklahoma City moment” that they have been waiting for.
Obama will get a temporary bounce but once again….this was a non-political event….a virtual softball for Obama to catch.

Unfortunately for democrats…this speech will not:

Lower gas prices
….Create Jobs
……make jobless reports positive
………..fix the impending disaster of Home Mortgages
……………fix the failed stimulus
………………..fix a very unpopular Health Care bill that delivers none of what Obama promised
……………………..lower the cost of goods and services
…………….defeat the Taliban
………………….
..unfortunately for democrats,this euphoric celebration will be short lived when Obama has to get back to something
he has failed at so far…leading this Nation and putting forth successful policies.

Baxter Greene on January 13, 2011 at 9:46 AM

MSNBC The place for bat sh1t crazy.

This is coming out of the Leftest play book. This nastiness was planned out well ahead of time. This is how the meeting went – The next time there is any kind of high profile violence in the country, we pin it on the Right – specifically Sarah Palin for getting all those tea party candidates elected, and replacing Soros stooges. Dupnik must have gotten the memo.

No one buys into this nonsense because it’s absurd. I have talked to more than one Democrat that doesn’t believe it. They think it’s all for ratings because MSNBC can’t get any.

Let’s get on with repealing Obamascare – we can be witness to the next temper tantrum by all the usual suspects.

They should have a meeting at MSNBC, and have Griffin read “The Boy Who Cried Wolf” to them.

We get it: MSNBC is desperate for ratings.

Dr Evil on January 13, 2011 at 9:47 AM

I want to know what she did with the Lindbergh baby.

ncc770 on January 13, 2011 at 9:37 AM

She blamed it on the “Dingo” was the last I heard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghCTZF61ey0

Baxter Greene on January 13, 2011 at 9:48 AM

She drew a target on your house, muttered an Assembly of God/voodoo (it’s all the same to lefties) incantation, and poof!, the keys disappeared.

Wethal on January 13, 2011 at 9:33 AM

Dam#…

You think she can do that with my taxes to??????

Baxter Greene on January 13, 2011 at 9:49 AM

Normally when my keys disappear I know it’s the fault of one of the Jews scrabbling through my attic, using his Jew Claw to hook my keys off the table.

But you may have something here with Palin, she might just be evil enough to be in all of our houses.

Bishop on January 13, 2011 at 9:22 AM

Heh!!!!

…You kill me with your sharp wit…

……………….oh sh!t..
…………………did I just set myself up to be murdered by Bishop for saying that???????

Baxter Greene on January 13, 2011 at 9:51 AM

So did the Fox News talkers. That is the GOP position: Palin bad, Obama dreamy.

james23 on January 13, 2011 at 9:11 AM

The Republicans have a sexist vein running through the party. It’s alright if the ladies want to help out but – that doesn’t mean they are going to share any of their imagined “Power” with them. I use “Imagined” because if it wasn’t for Sarah Palin and the Tea Party the Democrats would still be in Power in the House.

The old boys club never learned how to share…especially not with girls ;)

Look at Romney’s aid stating that “Palin isn’t a serious person” at least she isn’t the ken doll of Republican contenders.

Dr Evil on January 13, 2011 at 9:56 AM

at least she isn’t the ken doll of Republican contenders.

Dr Evil on January 13, 2011 at 9:56 AM

No, that would be Tim Pawlenty. Sorry, Ed. Everybody knows it but you, it seems.

KingGold on January 13, 2011 at 9:58 AM

This really IS a watershed moment…..We’ve moved from “BOOOOOOSH” as the root of all evil to “SARAHHHHHHH”.

search4truth on January 13, 2011 at 10:01 AM

A 53% majority of those surveyed call that analysis mostly an attempt to use the tragedy to make conservatives look bad. About a third, 35%, say it is a legitimate point about how dangerous language can be.

These numbers would be even more one-sided if not for the way the questions were worded.

53% are accusing the media of intentional malpractice by “using the tragedy” to advance a political position. That’s true, but it’s a pretty high bar for some people. If the question was “Do you think conservative political speech incited the shootings”, the number saying “no” would be higher than 53%.

On the flip side, the standard for the 35% is very low. Only that criticism of vitriolic rhetoric is a “legitimate point”, and “can be” dangerous. It does not require a respondent to say that political rhetoric actually indicted or caused the shootings.

The breakdown of a straight question of “conservative political rhetoric did or did not incite the shootings” would be about 20/80.

forest on January 13, 2011 at 10:01 AM

The Republicans don’t get it. Independents aren’t invested in the Republican Party. Sarah Palin was the high profile Republican, getting the base out to vote in the Mid Terms, she drew all the media fire. (Sarah Palin has proven her loyalty to the Republican Party) Now the Republicans are letting her twist in the wind, and not coming to her defense. I get it, the Republicans will scapegoat their own for what they think is political advantage. How is this showing any character or principles?

In fact they are using it as an excuse to pile on. Just like their Lefty counterparts they think we’re stupid.

Dr Evil on January 13, 2011 at 10:05 AM

The boss emerita was not fooled.
gh on January 13, 2011 at 8:54 AM

What did she say?

Vyce on January 13, 2011 at 10:05 AM

No, that would be Tim Pawlenty. Sorry, Ed. Everybody knows it but you, it seems.

KingGold on January 13, 2011 at 9:58 AM

Pawlenty isn’t exactly an “exciting” personality. The men in the Republican party really don’t get that they need is a “candidate” that excites the base, and the Independents to get excited about voting for their candidate.

Chris Christie and General Patreaus aren’t going to run in 2012. That leaves Sarah Palin. I haven’t seen one of the Male front runners that isn’t bringing their own baggage. Romney – Romneycare that birthed Obamascare. Huckabee when he was Governor pardoned that person, who killed those people up in Washington State.

Dr Evil on January 13, 2011 at 10:10 AM

We should keep a list of the vile contemptible individuals from both the media as well as politicians who bought into the GOP trying to incite murder conspiracy theories and suggest they have a mental evaluation because people like that may be a danger to society. Libel and slander used to be against the law, now it’s as common as bed bugs.

scalleywag on January 13, 2011 at 10:15 AM

There is an element of severe psychosis that affects politicos on the right and left. Examples we see of this is Birtherism, Trutherism, and the smears. This why, I believe, many people that I know avoid politics. It bears a heavy burden on the mind and can cause breakdowns.

The politicians caught between the two poles can do no right and at the same time can can do no wrong. It is very confusing.

The vicious attacks on Palin and her family and Obama and his family should be looked as a parallel events. I think the concern about the politics are at the surface but underneath, and yes I’m going to go there, are issues of race, gender, and class.

Palin is being attacked so viciously from the left because she is a woman. See when the left sees a man talking about abortion, he is a norm to their mantra of the evils of men, who can never birth children, imposing their will on their victims aka women. When you have a female coming out to be pro-life and flaunting that choice in front of them it drives them insane because it goes against the nature of the way their brain is wired. Gun ownership is seen as violence, men are violent, women are victims and weak. So once again, a woman that owns and shoots guns, hunts animals, and seems to be able to hold their own is to tasking to comprehend for the far left brain so they lash out. And to the liberal elite she is seen a dumb redneck white woman because of her background. This is what they tell their minority mental slaves. These minorities equate redneck with racist so now to them she is a white racist redneck dumb woman.

She is attacked from the right because she is a woman that has reached a level men covet. It is jealousy. Pure chauvinistic jealousy.

I will say, she has made a lot of mistakes, she has toed this line of celebrity reality show fodder to political attack dog. And I don’t particularly like her brand of politics or her style of politics but then way she’s been attacked has been borderline insane.

And as a warning to her, she has been placed on the same pedestal on high as Obama has. Her supporters lover her, fawn over her, foam at the mouth when it comes to anyone speaking against her. But if she makes the wrong move or not the move they want they will turn on her like rabid dogs.

Obama is a different story, he is half black, from a screwed up family situation, he father is from Africa, he lived in Indonesia. All things that make people wary of him being leader of this country. He is too foreign, abnormal to what we know, and also invokes deep rooted feelings about black people. When you have someone you deem, maybe subconsciously, inferior that is now leader of the free world the far right brain can’t handle that. It goes nuts. So what do you do, you go beyond his politics. You make him the Antichrist, a foreigner conspiring against the American people, he wants your children, he wants to murder babies, he wants American to burn to the ground, he wants revenge against white people, white colonist, he wants to gather he legions of welfare recipients (other black people) and come and get you and take everything you own. Get your guns, get your bunkers stocked water and canned foods, a civil war is coming. Never in a campaign have you had people make references to watermelons on the White House lawn, go to campaign rally’s where people are handing out money with a picture of him with gold teeth and buckets of fried chicken, or portraits of him as a pimp and Michelle as a prostitute, or hand out t-shirts of him as a monkey (and don’t act cute and claim you don’t get the reference). Michelle is called a mooch not because she wears designer clothes or has nice things. Most First Lady’s have, but because they don’t feel she deserves these things, how dare she even have them. She is derided for having a big behind. Most of us black women do, even the healthy ones. She is called a whore, a skank, a cow, a dog, and other nastiness for which I can’t see what she has done to warrant it.

For the far left he represents something different. He is a chance for them to exercise their progressiveness and gives them relief for their white guilt. But if you haven’t noticed, as soon as he steps off the plantation they are gnashing teeth and ready to tear him to pieces. He is their boy and he will do as they say or else! *Cracks the whip* . Black liberals see him as the Black President of the Black United States of Black America. They can’t get over themselves enough to know he is the leader of the free world and not owned by them. So when they can’t have all his attention or do as they say they swipe away his blackness. When he does as they demand he is the blackest man alive when he doesn’t, not so much.

Someone on here were deriding Obama for not coming out ahead of the game in the attacks against Palin in response to the rampage in Tucson. However that SAME person said he was evil for speaking out against the awful attacks on Bristol Palin and telling people. They said he was at fault for even addressing it, because that required him to bring it up.

Most of us aren’t politically bipolar and further more can’t live in a perpetual state of anger or ready to be angry. We just react on what makes sense. Sometimes what makes sense turns out to be wrong, sometimes it’s right. It makes sense that the Tucson shooter was a wacko that had no particular political affiliation.

This is why you see the polls shifting as they do or polls like this. But even polls can fall victim above derangement. When they go your way you believe them and polls are great wisdom, when they don’t the polls are useless garbage.

Magnus on January 13, 2011 at 10:27 AM

These are remarkable findings just three days after the tragedy.

What? That the majority of people are no longer swayed by the trash put out by the liberal MSM?

It also might explain why those same purveyors bovine excrement are getting their panties all knotted up. No one is listening to them. That could affect the ‘bottom line’ on their next contract.

GarandFan on January 13, 2011 at 10:45 AM

The Far Looney Left keeps reviving Sarah Palin’s popularity. I keep reading online in threads, I hate Sarah Palin but the Arizona Massacre had nothing to do with her. The Left is making Palin “human” to the people who self admittedly can’t stand her. MSNBC doesn’t get it they are driving support to Palin, even from her detractors. If they were trying to undermine her influence through making crap up, it’s back fired.

If the Left wanted Sarah Palin’s influence to fade they should stop renting their clothes ,and tearing at their skin, and pulling their hair out. They should stop talking about her but they can’t. There is no improvising on the conformist left they have to use the play book.

Boy that Sarah Palin is one POWERFUL person, look at the enmity she can generate from the looney left fringe.

Dr Evil on January 13, 2011 at 10:53 AM

Miss having Michelle as the last word here on Hotair.
AP and Ed want to be accepted by zero and the left so desperately. What a shame.

dragondrop on January 13, 2011 at 10:54 AM

Thank God for the internet, blogs, twitter, facebook, etc. Had this happened 20 years ago, the MSM meme would have been bought by the public without any alternative media to counter the lies.

angryed on January 13, 2011 at 11:01 AM

Which is why Obama / FCC want to nationalize the internet and make sure alternative viewpoints are not allowed.

angryed on January 13, 2011 at 11:02 AM

Mark Levin, law suit in the offing?

And in some quarters, it has not stopped. Chris Matthews just night before last featured Mark Levin and Michael Savage as TARGETS of ) said last night the very next time he is falsely accused and that his name is smeared he will SUE for libel, his wrath. Levin (who is a lawyer and a very brilliant manhe will sue all involved starting with the corporate bosses right on down to the commentator, he will depose them all, and he will not settle. It will go before a jury.

Dr Evil on January 13, 2011 at 11:07 AM

Gallup concludes that Americans largely are not looking for scapegoats but are instead “laying responsibility for the shootings squarely on the alleged killer, perhaps due to his reported psychological problems.” Let’s hope that’s the case.

Which is exactly what Sarah Palin was saying. For the record, I don’t think this showed any particular brilliance on her part. I think she just showed common sense, and courage.

And yet all the media, including many supposedly conservatives, have been rejecting what most of the country — and 75% of conservatives — believes and what Sarah Palin says, in order to trash her as “inserting” herself into the tragedy. Meanwhile, they run over and gush about Obama’s wonderful speech, which contained not a single rebuke to the overheated media, just a vague generalization that we should all “calm down” and “come together” and “heal.”

It’s really pathetic.

tom on January 13, 2011 at 11:11 AM

Say, isn’t there a Senator or sumpin from Arizona that is a former Presidential candidate?

OkieDoc on January 13, 2011 at 9:27 AM

Did McCain speak at the memorial?

JohnJ on January 13, 2011 at 11:15 AM

I hope that when Giffords recovers and sees the exploitation of her being shot and the murder of 6 people by the Democrats, she will be appalled by their Blood Libel against Palin and the TEA Party and leave the Democrat Party. If becoming a Republican is too much she can be an Independent. Giffords can’t possibly condone the atrocious behavior of her party and its media arm. Those people are beyond sickening. Gifford doesn’t strike me as the same.

CCRWM on January 13, 2011 at 11:19 AM

I wonder how all the commentators would feel if the left had blamed Romney instead of Palin?

d1carter on January 13, 2011 at 11:23 AM

tom on January 13, 2011 at 11:11 AM

The Conservative Media Pundits are acting like an abused housewife. But the beatings haven’t stopped. Abused Housewife: It’s okay “abuser” loves me, sometimes “abuser” loses self control. You can tell how much my abuser loves me – My abuser is always beating me for my own good…SNARK.

Dr Evil on January 13, 2011 at 11:24 AM

“Americans largely are not looking for scapegoats”. But the democrats and their minions in the LSM are.

RADIOONE on January 13, 2011 at 11:29 AM

Independents have just the reverse reaction, with 36% thinking the point is legitimate and 53% believing it to be intended to make conservatives look bad.

This is very crucial–what the Independents think! Partisan Democrats will be quick to blame conservatives if one of their own (Rep. Giffords) is physically attacked, and partisan Republicans reject the blame. But Independent voters, who listen to both sides before voting, probably have heard militant rhetoric from BOTH sides, and know the difference between political debate (job-killing or kill the bill) and a real call to violence. Even after this tragedy, it will still be OK to debate the issues.

On gun control, there is much more consensus that it would have done no good in Tucson. Only a third of Democrats believe it would have made a difference, and 58% think stricter gun laws would have made no difference. Independents split 19/72, and Republicans 8/89.

The basic problem is security. Organizers of major public events, even non-political events such as the Super Bowl or New Year’s Eve in Times Square, usually ask local police to set up security check-points to screen for weapons (not only guns, but also knives), and people attending these events don’t usually mind the inconvenience.

Perhaps Rep. Giffords and her staff didn’t think that this event at a grocery store in Tucson was a major risk to her security, and did not arrange for police protection. But if police HAD been present, even if there were only two armed officers near Rep. Giffords with no checkpoint, they would probably have shot or arrested Jared Loughner long before he could shoot 19 rounds, or their presence might have intimidated him from attempting his murderous shooting spree.

If there is a lesson to be learned from this tragedy, it may be that members of Congress can be “targets”, and more steps need to be taken to protect them from madmen and provide for their security.

Steve Z on January 13, 2011 at 11:45 AM

I’m at a loss. Why haven’t I heard the name “Alex Jones” connected to the Tuscon Tragedy?

Both the left AND the right could have joined forces to demonize the true source of the philosophy that drove the killer on Saturday, InfoWars.com. Perhaps, in a bi-partisan effort, left and right punditryt could have eliminated the insanity that Alex Jones and his minions represent in our free society.

Al-Ozarka on January 13, 2011 at 11:55 AM

Al-Ozarka on January 13, 2011 at 11:55 AM

Jones is not a serious political threat to Democrats. Nothing else matters.

forest on January 13, 2011 at 12:18 PM

I wonder how all the commentators would feel if the left had blamed Romney instead of Palin?

d1carter on January 13, 2011 at 11:23 AM

They’d fall all over themselves to defend a “good Republican” like Mitt. Count it.

alwaysfiredup on January 13, 2011 at 12:39 PM

How progressive!!!!
Baxter Greene on January 13, 2011 at 8:58 AM

They had T-shirts?

OM eeeffing G that’s sick

DSchoen on January 13, 2011 at 5:02 PM

This “blame game” started on Saturday with the idiot sheriff saying that talk radio and Fox were responsible. When pressed for any facts, he could not point one out. Why let the truth get in the way of a good accusation?
Wills on January 13, 2011 at 8:58 AM

That wasn’t his fault!
After all Kos only said
Mission accomplished Palin

19 minutes after the first victims arrived at the hospital.

DSchoen on January 13, 2011 at 5:18 PM

I couldn’t find my keys this morning….
….I know Palin took them.
Baxter Greene on January 13, 2011 at 9:18 AM

Reality is stranger than that!

Meet Tina Dupu

At Least Stand By Your Free Speech
On January 9, 2011, in Column, by Tina Dupuy
Last Saturday morning 20 people were shot in a Tucson Safeway parking lot by a 22-year-old who stated on YouTube he “won’t pay debt with a currency that’s not backed by gold and silver.” Fifteen minutes after the news broke, former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin tweeted, “The price of gold today is at $1,368.90 an ounce.”
Coincidence? Yes.

Who, after hearing of this shooting, checks to see if Palin said anything about gold lately?

BTW, gold for the month of January has had a low price of $1370.55 and a high of $1387.30

DSchoen on January 13, 2011 at 6:41 PM

Those of a certain age will remember the series Get Smart. One of the standard gags was used when Maxwell was captured: “Two divisions of Marines are surrounding this building RIGHT NOW. … An elite Russian SWAT team is surrounding the building Right Now. … Two cops are out there right now with backup on the way. … Would you believe a Boy Scout with Lassie and Rin-Tin-Tin?”

The MSM is at the “would you believe” stage.

njcommuter on January 14, 2011 at 12:22 AM