Media meme o’ the day: Obama’s speech was much more presidential than Palin’s

posted at 8:04 pm on January 13, 2011 by Allahpundit

This is a useful way to wrap up (hopefully) the coverage of Our National Conversation On Rhetoric as it’s a stark example of how easily the propaganda about Palin’s culpability in the shootings was accepted as a political fact of life. There are two ways a reporter could address yesterday’s oratorical bookends by her and Obama. One: “Hey, isn’t it insane that Palin had to give this speech? People don’t normally have to point out that they’re not responsible for a mass murder that they’re not linked to in any way, do they?” Call that the “reality-based” approach. Two: “How silly of Palin to set up an unfavorable contrast with Obama by giving a defensive speech on a day when he’s pushing uplift. Don’t her advisors know anything about ‘messaging’?” We’ll call that the “you’re badly missing the point” take. It’s true as far as it goes — Palin’s team should have anticipated that some viewers will naturally compare her tone to his, notwithstanding the two speeches’ dramatically different circumstances — but it’s also utterly banal and lazy. What’s a more constructive use of a political reporter’s time — pointing out to his audience the eminently apparent fact that, yes indeed, Palin’s tone doesn’t compare favorably to Obama’s in this case? Or pointing out, in case they’re not aware, that that might be because she had to respond to an endless Orwellian smear tying her to a homicidal lunatic? Accuse The One of complicity in mass murder and, I assure you, his reaction won’t be sunshine and candy canes either.

The “badly missing the point” take is what I was getting at in goofing on Politico yesterday. For political media, whether any facts exist that link the right to Loughner is more or less immaterial; what matters is that the left’s narrative of tying the right to Loughner exists and, as such, it’s a fact of political life that should be assimilated and covered like any other. Obama’s eulogizing the victims of a shooting and Palin’s defending herself from the repulsive charge that she’s somehow responsible for the body count, but since they both spoke on the same day, well, that’s good enough for a moronic superficial horserace-type comparison. Politico:

At sunrise in the East on Wednesday, Sarah Palin demonstrated that she has little interest — or capacity — in moving beyond her brand of grievance-based politics. And at sundown in the West, Barack Obama reminded even his critics of his ability to rally disparate Americans around a message of reconciliation…

The former Alaska governor has a knack for supplying rhetoric that will delight her supporters, send her critics howling and invariably create a frenzy of coverage. But her response suggests she is capable of hitting just that one note…

But for much of the eight-minute talk she was defensive and showed little interest in doing anything other than channeling the understandable resentment of her ideological kinsmen over the blame-casting. And that won’t appeal much to a political center that — even while they may not think Palin is in any way responsible for Tucson — preferred more conciliation even before the jarring attempted assassination of a member of Congress.

A homework assignment for aspiring speechwriters: Try to write an address titled “I Didn’t Kill Anyone” without sounding aggrieved. More from the Times:

Ms. Palin’s decision to post the video on the Internet on Wednesday morning all but invited comparisons to the president’s previously announced appearance at the memorial service for those slain in Arizona.

And her choice of words — most notably the accusation that her critics were guilty of “blood libel” for the things they have said about her — made it impossible to ignore the video as merely another statement from a politician…

[W]hat could not have been more different was the tone. Where Ms. Palin was direct and forceful, Mr. Obama was soft and restrained. Where Ms. Palin was accusatory, Mr. Obama appeared to go out of his way to avoid pointing fingers or assigning blame. Where she stressed the importance of fighting for our different beliefs, he emphasized our need for unity, referring to the “American family — 300 million strong.”

Nowhere in the piece does the Times explain precisely what “things they have said about her.” If you read it without knowing the backstory of the past several days and the left’s obsession with her crosshairs map, you might think Palin had posted a video to eulogize the victims and then inexplicably launched into a tirade against the media halfway through based on old grievances, like the Couric interview. The closest it comes to filling the reader in is to quote her denouncing “mindless finger-pointing we endured in the wake of the tragedy.”

And on we go. Here’s some refreshing candor from Lloyd Grove: Yes, it’s unfair to compare the two speeches — but why should that stop us?

The prematurely retired Alaska governor had to serve up her remarks, really a litany of complaints against her critics and political adversaries, while seated in front of a non-working stone fireplace, apparently at her home in Wasilla—a claustrophobic setting framed by an outsize American flag.

The president got to deliver his affecting half-hour of heartfelt reflection and soulful inspiration—repeatedly interrupted by standing ovations—to an arena at the University of Arizona filled to the rafters with 14,000 mourners, notably members of his Cabinet and the Supreme Court, the governor of Arizona, the astronaut-husband of wounded Rep. Gabby Giffords, the heroes who risked their own lives to save others, the doctors and nurses who tended the injured and bleeding, and the friends and families of the six people, including a 9-year-old girl, who were killed by a gun-wielding maniac Saturday morning at a shopping center.

“At the end of the day, after listening to the president, we’ll know why he’s president and she never will be,” said Robert Shrum.

To the speechwriters: For extra credit on your assignment, figure out a “presidential” way to explore the theme, “I Didn’t Beam Homicidal Mind Control Rays into that Crazed Gunman’s Brain.” The big joke here, of course, is that the only “presidential” way Palin could have handled this — according to the media, I mean — would be to simply let this whole thing slide. That’s what presidents do, right? Thick skin, stiff upper lip, even when their enemies are being terribly unfair to them. When it comes to politics, that’s business as usual. My point this week, though, and Ace’s point at his site, has been that this episode isn’t business as usual. This isn’t some standard “Palin’s using rhetorical dog whistles for her Christian base!” attack. This is a congresswoman bleeding out of her head on the sidewalk with six bodies lying around her, one of them a little girl, and Palin being blamed for it instantly. And yet according to Keith Ellison, the proper response here should have been to validate that accusation by implication by saying, gee, yeah, I guess I should have toned it down. I’m not known for being a Palin fan (as, er, any actual Palin fan could tell you) and even I can’t contain my indignation at the charge. And yet she’s supposed to just mellow out and take it because political reporters who won’t flatly correct the record for their readers think it’s bad “optics” to do otherwise? Unbelievable.


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Del Dolemonte

ABC, CBS, NBC, the cable news channels, major newspapers.

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 9:31 PM

It’s always so nice to see the folks at Politico, (Jonathan Martin) and the New Yuck Times engage in gutter journalism while these very publications were complicit in smearing public servants and conservative leaders. What the American public saw on display this past week was not only despicable, it was the further deterioration of the moral fiber of what we call the mainstream media today.

“At sunrise in the East on Wednesday, Sarah Palin demonstrated that she has little interest — or capacity — in moving beyond her brand of grievance-based politics. And at sundown in the West, Barack Obama reminded even his critics of his ability to rally disparate Americans around a message of reconciliation.” Jonathan Martin

No, Jonathan, in the span of four days Sarah Palin remained quiet until she could no longer listen to facilitators, such as yourself, continue to brand her as a murderer. Or, if you did not directly write the vitriol that the Times, Krugman, (and many of the far left zealots spewing this hate), let me ask you this question—-Why did you not speak out against this garbage? “moving beyond her brand of grievance-based politics”???? You’re a joke Martin, and the country is laughing at your pathetic use of what you may call journalism. Obama‘s “message of reconciliation” was completely necessary to insulate himself from the very message he allowed to fester for four days—directly blaming conservatives for the murders of innocent Americans. Obama’s silence, (just as yours and or others in the media) was a disgraceful tragedy.

Rovin on January 13, 2011 at 9:31 PM

Great post, AP. You nailed it. Please forward your post to Bill O’Reilly who tonight obliquely attacked Palin, and Bachmann, by criticising her for not going on all the talking head shows this week and instead posting her speech on her facebook page. As if he or any other takling head would give her 7+ minutes to make her points. I think he might learn something from your analysis. Then again, it’s O’Reilly…. nevermind.

JimP on January 13, 2011 at 9:31 PM

Define Mainstream Press first. Otherwise, how do we know you won’t move the goalposts?

Del Dolemonte

doesn’t matter. no one is accusing her of murder, the accusations don’t go past incitement.

audiculous on January 13, 2011 at 9:32 PM

When did I say I was a communist?

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 9:23 PM

You support and defend a party, and administration, that defines themselves as progressives. AKA socialists. They’re diligently trying to find a new adjective for socialists, since they’re losing ground, and realizing Americans want no part of it.

Obama as a community organizer, followed Saul Alinskys rules for radicals. He hung out with communists. Bill Ayres is a communist. They want to take over, and control health care. Not because they care about health, but that’s step one, in taking control of everything.

What else do you need? If you support this crap, you must be one. Everything Obama espouses, is what goes on in socialist nations. It’s not working there, why would it work here? Is this really what you want?

capejasmine on January 13, 2011 at 9:32 PM

I don’t think that you would be able to compare Palin’s education to Obama’s.

But I’m not an Obama fan.

I’m more Truman and Eisenhower.

audiculous on January 13, 2011 at 9:25 PM

LOL, Harry Truman was a college dropout.. Only President since 1897 to never earn a college degree.

G+

Del Dolemonte on January 13, 2011 at 9:33 PM

Interesting that a 403 pops up on google linky!
So,we go around it!
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Obama’s Arizona memorial speech fails to mention his complicity
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Examiner.com ^ | January 13th, 2011 | Jim Kouri
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“Acts of monstrous criminality stand on their own,” Sarah Palin said. “Especially within hours of a tragedy unfolding, journalists and pundits should not manufacture a blood libel that serves only to incite the very hatred and violence that they purport to condemn. That is reprehensible.”

When former Alaska Governor and vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin uttered the above words on Wednesday, the news media and the left — often difficult to differentiate from one another — again pounced on her with snippy commentary and accusations that her past pronouncements contributed to the otherwise senseless slaughter in Arizona last Saturday.

“If anything positive can be attributed to the mass shootings by a crazed gunman named Jared Loughner it is the fact that many members of the news media removed their masks and ceased pretending to be unbiased arbiters of truth,” said political strategist Mike Baker.

“In my 30 years in politics, I have never seen such lock-stepping hatred for a politician by folks in the media and so-called political activists,” Baker said.

Meanwhile, these same Palin-haters gushed over President Barack Obama’s speech during a memorial service for the victims killed and wounded by an Arizona madman, Baker pointed out.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2656344/posts

Examiner linky(403)

http://www.examiner.com/law-enforcement-in-national/obama-s-arizona-memorial-speech-fails-to-mention-his-past

canopfor on January 13, 2011 at 9:33 PM

I don’t think that you would be able to compare Palin’s education to Obama’s.

But I’m not an Obama fan.

I’m more Truman and Eisenhower.

audiculous on January 13, 2011 at 9:25 PM

The Moby is strong with this one ;)

Dr Evil on January 13, 2011 at 9:35 PM

Dynamic Duo,er,TAG TEAM eh!!

canopfor on January 13, 2011 at 9:15 PM

Sockpuppet love is a special kind of love…Giggle.

Dr Evil on January 13, 2011 at 9:19 PM

Dr.Evil:LOL:)

canopfor on January 13, 2011 at 9:36 PM

But it is libtard nirvana to be governed by someone as thin-skinned and ignorant as obama.
I don’t think that you would be able to compare Palin’s education to Obama’s.

But I’m not an Obama fan.

I’m more Truman and Eisenhower.

audiculous on January 13, 2011 at 9:25 PM

Oh, this is rich. And, I see you more of a Carter from your posts.

HornetSting on January 13, 2011 at 9:36 PM

October 21, 2008.

One time, huh. Thanks.

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 9:29 PM

Well, I found that one in 5 seconds. Didn’t bother to search for more. Why is her going on CNN so important anyway? It’s an absolute joke.

But she did it live, just like she did the Couric and Gibson interviews live. O’bama refused to go live with O’Reilly the same year.

Why doesn’t O’bama want to do a live O’Reilly interview?

Del Dolemonte on January 13, 2011 at 9:37 PM

You’re one of the best posters here at HA, and I mean that sincerely. You are always thoughtful and respectful, unlike some I could mention.

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 9:09 PM

Not always. We’re all here because we care, in some form or another, and caring doesn’t necessarily lend itself to the types of responses one self edits.

That said, I appreciate the compliment even if I haven’t earned it, but I really don’t get your argument here or your tone, which seems specifically designed to pick a fight on what you know is a heated issue.

Has anyone (and bloggers for the purpose of this comment aren’t being considered a “one”) outright accused her of murder? Hell if I know, but that’s in large part because I’ve been trying to avoid those kinds of reports. It sickens me to watch or read it. And what I have seen has shown countless journalists leaping to drawn conclusions based on nothing, just clearly dying for the opportunity to put blood on Palin’s hands without expressly doing so, purely so that they can later claim they never did anything of the sort. So on a technicality, I probably haven’t seen anyone actually accuse her like that. But when we’re talking about technicalities like that, since when do we give them the benefit of doubt for doing something so slimy?

The best equivalent I can come up with right now is based on a South Park episode partially mocking Glenn Beck, where Cartman calls Wendy a slut who services the entire football team (or something else) but qualifies his statement by saying, “or does she?” adding the pretense that he’s just asking a question rather than making an accusation.

Why are you defending this? I’m genuinely asking. What’s your defense here and why are you giving one? Is it just that you think her supporters are going to far or that Palin’s not hitting quite the right tone, or do you actually think what’s happened these last few days is acceptable?

Esthier on January 13, 2011 at 9:37 PM

I think America would do real well with an American President that talked plain and straight. That’s what our country is all about. Average Americans being able to govern themselves.

I’d say it’s much more American for a President to begin their political career by running for the PTA, city counsel or as a small town mayor, rather than start as a community agitator from a terrorist’s living room.

JellyToast on January 13, 2011 at 9:38 PM

FINS sheesh GFY

CWforFreedom on January 13, 2011 at 9:38 PM

But POTUS? She’s not up to it. Too brittle and defensive.

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 9:12 PM

Too brittle and defensive? Compared to whom? By the way, Obama is pretty thin-skinned too. How well do you think HE’D hold up against the kind of “wall of hate” that Sarah Palin has had to put up with for the past two years and especially over the past week? You think he’d respond with the more-in-sadness-than-in-anger approach that Sarah Palin used in her video speech this week? Or do you think he’d start giving people his patented scratching-his-nose-with-his-middle-finger gesture (which I can’t even imagine Palin doing with anybody under any circumstances)?

Aitch748 on January 13, 2011 at 9:38 PM

“Obama’s speech was much more presidential than Palin’s?”

So that is the new standard?

A sitting President simply has to do a little bit better than a private citizen?

They’ve moved the goal posts to an entirely new football conference.

coldwarrior on January 13, 2011 at 9:39 PM

canopfor, my congratulations. not often does one get to see someone posting a link to freerepublic.

audiculous on January 13, 2011 at 9:39 PM

Great post, Allah. Thanks.

Missy on January 13, 2011 at 9:39 PM

canopfor,
===============

nah, there’s nothing particularly progressive about not wanting to be governed by someone as ignorant as Palin.

audiculous on January 13, 2011 at 9:18 PM

audiculous:And your being governed by a Black Theology
Political Thug,oh,and he wears Mom Jeans too!

canopfor on January 13, 2011 at 9:39 PM

Del Dolemonte

ABC, CBS, NBC, the cable news channels, major newspapers.

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 9:31 PM

OK on the first 2, but define “major newspaper” please. Top 10 by circulation?

Del Dolemonte on January 13, 2011 at 9:39 PM

Why doesn’t O’bama want to do a live O’Reilly interview?

Del Dolemonte on January 13, 2011 at 9:37 PM

Off hand it’s because he needs an adapter for his teleprompter for a Fox Outlet GRIN.

Dr Evil on January 13, 2011 at 9:40 PM

Who accused her of murder? No one I heard.

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 8:33 PM

You really are the most nauseating and revolting troll and liar on this site, you scum.

MadisonConservative on January 13, 2011 at 9:40 PM

Aitch748 on January 13, 2011 at 9:38 PM

You do not really expect a reasoned response do you?

CWforFreedom on January 13, 2011 at 9:40 PM

You know, we are a Representative Republic which rules with the consent of the governed.

As for the current government, I am withdrawing my consent. Others would do well to do likewise.

coldwarrior on January 13, 2011 at 9:40 PM

What else do you need?

Something more than John Birch blitherings about communist conspiracies. Obama gave the banks 800 billion dollars. Some “communist.” He’s following Bush-era policies in the WOT.

And just because I think the GOP is a joke, doesn’t mean I support Obama.

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 9:41 PM

Who accused her of murder? No one I heard.

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 8:33 PM

P A T H E T I C

CWforFreedom on January 13, 2011 at 9:41 PM

Leftists are the bestest.

Inanemergencydial on January 13, 2011 at 9:41 PM

canopfor,

my congratulations. not often does one get to see someone posting a link to freerepublic.

audiculous on January 13, 2011 at 9:39 PM

audiculous:Let me take a stab at this,your not a Progressive
Socialist,and you’ve been a Registered Republican
for over 600 years!

canopfor on January 13, 2011 at 9:42 PM

canopfor, your kids are also your grandchildren, right?

audiculous on January 13, 2011 at 9:42 PM

You do not really expect a reasoned response do you?

If he does, he’s gonna be sadly disappointed “talking” to you. I guess you could write “gross” two dozen times and stick your tongue out.

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 9:42 PM

Who accused her of murder? No one I heard.

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 8:33 PM

Clean out your ears. Open your Eyes. Close your Mouth.

portlandon on January 13, 2011 at 9:42 PM

P A T H E T I C

CWforFreedom

Seriously, Mr. Linky McLinkerton. Hand ‘em over.

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 9:43 PM

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 9:42 PM

Good one simpleton . GUNS. Lol you are pathetic and gross.
Your tolerance of the left and their games is proof you are a degenerate.

CWforFreedom on January 13, 2011 at 9:44 PM

Still waiting for the evidence that she was accused of murder by the MSM. I say it never happened. More strawmen and Bircher babbling from the Palin crowd.

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 9:44 PM

Brent Bozell just nailed it on Hannity. The smears of incitement are just more in the ceaseless effort of the Left to criminalize the conservative movement.

And this is why.

John the Libertarian on January 13, 2011 at 9:44 PM

And I’ve never seen anyone in politics as thin-skinned as Barack.

John the Libertarian on January 13, 2011 at 9:18 PM

True, but considering the press he received initially, I’m not sure he’s exceptional that way.

Esthier on January 13, 2011 at 9:45 PM

gross

Here we go again. You need one of these.

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 9:45 PM

FINS . You don’t think they were implying that she is responsible for these deaths?

You do not really expect a reasoned response do you?

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 9:42 PM

Hit home EH dingbat?

CWforFreedom on January 13, 2011 at 9:45 PM

doesn’t mean I support Obama.

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 9:41 PM

ROFLMAO!!! I’ll bet you couldn’t type that with a straight face, could ya?! ROFL!!!

capejasmine on January 13, 2011 at 9:46 PM

You don’t think they were implying that she is responsible for these deaths?

You lot are throwing around the charge that she was accused of murder. I want to see the evidence. So far, crickets.

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 9:46 PM

FINS you don’t think it is gross that people on the left use the deaths of a child and other men and women to trash the right? You are a puke.

CWforFreedom on January 13, 2011 at 9:46 PM

ROFLMAO!!! I’ll bet you couldn’t type that with a straight face, could ya?! ROFL!!!

I don’t. I think he’s a sell-out.

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 9:47 PM

You lot are throwing around the charge that she was accused of murder. I want to see the evidence. So far, crickets.

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 9:46 PM

Now you are being obtuse.

CWforFreedom on January 13, 2011 at 9:47 PM

31 million watched OBlahBLah on 7 nutworks!
33 million watched football,
from Drudge!

So the Liar In Chief hijacked a tragedy to draw a crowd and whip them to a frenzy using the awakening of a wounded victim and death of a nine year old child to drum up the applause lines!

Even though the clown in search of a parade found one, and when it turned the corner and he hopped in front he pretended but failed at becoming the leader as the kids cheered and boooed and high fived rather than being told to be quiet, respectful, and honorable.
Again more people watched a football game than what was the utter failure of the POTUS!

And no matter how wildly they spin it the Presstitutes cannot erase the fact that Sarahs’ delivery and defense of freedom was more appropriate and Presidential than the Pretend Presidents’ campaign stop at the site of a shooting. Next time he should try it in Detroit or his hometown Chicago where these things happen every weekend!

dhunter on January 13, 2011 at 9:47 PM

canopfor, your kids are also your grandchildren, right?

audiculous on January 13, 2011 at 9:42 PM

Awwww….now we get down to it. Ridiculous received painful news today…his family tree keeps trying to dry hump itself.

HornetSting on January 13, 2011 at 9:47 PM

Off hand it’s because he needs an adapter for his teleprompter for a Fox Outlet GRIN.

Dr Evil on January 13, 2011 at 9:40 PM

Specifically he needs a male adapter. He is currently using a female coupler, it’s giving him software interface issues with the non AC/DC news outlets LOL!

Dr Evil on January 13, 2011 at 9:47 PM

I love it when I nail the TRUTH!
======================================================

Good lord,are the accusations flying fast and furious,
one once again,Palin gets crucified in the same manner
as Rush Limbaugh and the Oklahoma City Bombing,if,every
one remembers that Leftys Demonization Operation!!

And,
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Remember this from less than two years ago,Nancy Pelosi
and her fear of Violent Rhetoric !!
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Hypocrisy Alert! Nancy Pelosi on Current Political Rhetoric

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGO49pf1rI8

canopfor on January 9, 2011 at 8:15 AM

canopfor on January 13, 2011 at 9:48 PM

Now you are being obtuse.

Bought that Thesaurus already I see. Quick work.

Still waiting…

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 9:48 PM

Aitch748 on January 13, 2011 at 9:38 PM

You do not really expect a reasoned response do you?

CWforFreedom on January 13, 2011 at 9:40 PM

Oh hell, I’ll be surprised if I get a response at all. But sometimes you just gotta push back anyway.

Aitch748 on January 13, 2011 at 9:49 PM

Palin gets crucified

Firts “blood libel,” now this. She’s an all-purpose martyr!!

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 9:50 PM

That last one was in response to -

Why doesn’t O’bama want to do a live O’Reilly interview?

Del Dolemonte on January 13, 2011 at 9:37 PM

Dr Evil on January 13, 2011 at 9:51 PM

Hmm Fins I wonder what Markos Moulitsas meant?

If Palin’s crosshair effort was excusable, why has her PAC scrubbed her site of that page?

Arizona sheriff investigating assassination went on rant about right-wing hate radio rhetoric. He shouldn’t have gone there?

How dare people “politicize” a political assassination!

F***ing American Taliban

Sharron Angle’s first amendment remedies, in action. That rhetoric MATTERS.

Mission accomplished, Sarah Palin,http://is.gd/knNgl

Care to interpret?

Thesaurus? Appears someone had to get their dictionary out.

CWforFreedom on January 13, 2011 at 9:52 PM

Hypocrisy Alert! Nancy Pelosi on Current Political Rhetoric

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGO49pf1rI8

canopfor on January 9, 2011 at 8:15 AM

Nancy Who?/

Dr Evil on January 13, 2011 at 9:52 PM

canopfor, your kids are also your grandchildren, right?

audiculous on January 13, 2011 at 9:42 PM
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Yup,right into personal attacks,and let me try,a different
angle of attack,

ummm…southern rednecks that live in Northern Ontario,
no,not California,Canada I bet was your angle eh!!

canopfor on January 13, 2011 at 9:53 PM

FINS you are just a bought fool.

Answer the question…is it not gross that the left has used these deaths to smear others?

CWforFreedom on January 13, 2011 at 9:53 PM

Then again, it’s O’Reilly…. nevermind.

JimP on January 13, 2011 at 9:31 PM

Laura Ingraham really smacked him down tonight. She wouldn’t let him talk over her like always does. I hate when he tries to be Mr. Centrist and kisses up to Obama.

TxAnn56 on January 13, 2011 at 9:54 PM

FINS hmmm more from DKOS.

“Sure, Sarah Palin didn’t pull the trigger. But then, neither did Charles Manson.” – auntbeast via Pharyngula

by wyvern on Thu Jan 13, 2011 at 06:50:43 PM PST

You lose.

CWforFreedom on January 13, 2011 at 9:55 PM

I have never seen a person take so much abuse, anger, and hatred as Sarah Palin has, except possibly Pope Benedict XVI and only because he takes it internationally. It is amazing. I hope she realizes it isn’t a truly bad thing in the grand scheme of things.

Blessed are they that suffer persecution for justice’s sake; for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Sarah, you are blessed. Stay strong.

pannw on January 13, 2011 at 9:55 PM

canopfor on January 9, 2011 at 8:15 AM
====================
Nancy Who?/

Dr Evil on January 13, 2011 at 9:52 PM

Dr Evil:That would be the Lady that said she was going to
clean the house of corruption,but,was swept out
of power,By SarahCuda,

who is now at the blunt end of all Liberals..HATE,
RAGE..ANGER….and ad nausem!:)

canopfor on January 13, 2011 at 9:56 PM

CWforFreedom

Kos is not a part of the MSM. The claim is that the MSM accused Palin of murder. I assert they did no such thing.

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 9:56 PM

If you ask about which media people are in on this…

Keith Olbermann, 08 JAN 2011:

If Sarah Palin, whose website put and today scrubbed bullseye targets on 20 Representatives including Gabby Giffords, does not repudiate her own part in amplifying violence and violent imagery in politics, she must be dismissed from politics – she must be repudiated by the members of her own party, and if they fail to do so, each one of them must be judged to have silently defended this tactic that today proved so awfully foretelling, and they must in turn be dismissed by the responsible members of their own party.

Remember, imagery used by the Democrats years before Palin’s map would also fit into this category, yet no blood is on the hands of the DNC.

Dana Milbank 10 JAN :

While the accusations sometimes go too far – there’s no evidence that either Palin or Beck inspired the Tucson suspect – the heat is well deserved. Both are finally being held to account for recklessly playing with violent images in a way that is bound to incite the unstable. In Beck’s case, as I reported last year, it already has – repeatedly.
Palin’s now-famous offense was her tweet last March telling conservatives: “Don’t Retreat, Instead – RELOAD!” The tweet referred people to her Facebook “target” map showing the districts of Gabrielle Giffords and other House Democrats in a rifle’s cross hairs.
Palin has been uncharacteristically quiet since Saturday’s slayings. She posted a brief Facebook message offering condolences, and an aide even tried to claim that the crosshairs, which Palin had called a “bull’s-eye,” were really “surveyors’ symbols.”

Yes such violent rhetoric really makes one culpable for a ‘McKinley Moment’… save that I’ve seen printing registration marks, paper cut marks, and reticules on a riflescope… those symbols were not what you see on a riflescope. As for the rhetoric… Tippecanoe and Tyler Too!

Always reliable for a smear is Paul Krugman, this on 08 JAN:

We don’t have proof yet that this was political, but the odds are that it was. She’s been the target of violence before. And for those wondering why a Blue Dog Democrat, the kind Republicans might be able to work with, might be a target, the answer is that she’s a Democrat who survived what was otherwise a GOP sweep in Arizona, precisely because the Republicans nominated a Tea Party activist. (Her father says that “the whole Tea Party” was her enemy.) And yes, she was on Sarah Palin’s infamous “crosshairs” list.

Just yesterday, Ezra Klein remarked that opposition to health reform was getting scary. Actually, it’s been scary for quite a while, in a way that already reminded many of us of the climate that preceded the Oklahoma City bombing.

You know that Republicans will yell about the evils of partisanship whenever anyone tries to make a connection between the rhetoric of Beck, Limbaugh, etc. and the violence I fear we’re going to see in the months and years ahead. But violent acts are what happen when you create a climate of hate. And it’s long past time for the GOP’s leaders to take a stand against the hate-mongers.

Guilty until proven innocent! Works every single time, doesn’t it? Gotta love how anything that happens from here on out is blood on the hands of the GOP and talk show hosts on the right. You don’t need proof when a good smear will do instead. Especially when he called for hanging Sen. Lieberman in effigy… how’s that ‘climate of hate’ thingy working out?

Then there is Rep. Brad Sherman (D-CA) doing his pre-crime thought on those making a climate of hate responsible for whatever happens next. Way to prejudice everyone and make it easy for the next killer to say ‘The GOP/Palin/Beck/Limbaugh/Tea Party made me do it!’ What was that about a climate of hate, again?

Sorry, need to go to bed soon… but if you’re looking for those with the blood libel, you can start there. And the interesting thing is that the killer started to get the hates for Giffords in 2007… plus there was something about a death threat at one time, if memory serves. So how many death threats do you need to get before you take them seriously, anyways? All that it takes is for one of them to be serious… and you don’t know if any of them are. Don’t worry, they are probably just isolated loners who are very quieted and raise a fuss in class now and again.

Nothing to worry about.

ajacksonian on January 13, 2011 at 9:56 PM

Seriously, Mr. Linky McLinkerton. Hand ‘em over.

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 9:43 PM

Ed himself blogged on the shame and hypocrisy of CNN. Then there’s Krugman. Then there’s CBS News who blamed Palin’s crosshairs map. Are you being deliberately obstinate?

John the Libertarian on January 13, 2011 at 9:57 PM

Are you being deliberately obstinate?

No. Murder is a serious accusation. No one accused her of murder. Are you going to walk back your hysterical reaction?

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 9:58 PM

And Barack Obama was accused of suborning mass murder by which main-stream media outlets? They don’t seem to have come to my attention.

materialist on January 13, 2011 at 9:58 PM

Palin gets crucified
======================
Firts “blood libel,” now this. She’s an all-purpose martyr!!

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 9:50 PM

Grow Fins:Ya know,you guys do have a ALTER OF LIBERALISM,
and thats where YOU guys sell (out) your souls!

canopfor on January 13, 2011 at 9:58 PM

When you have to argue that the president is more presidential than an unelected woman you deem an accomplice to mass murder, your president just might have a problem with his presidential cred.

Rational Thought on January 13, 2011 at 8:27 PM

Ding…ding…ding.
We have a winner here folks. :)

tencole on January 13, 2011 at 10:00 PM

Indignation is the order of the day on this. I think they are practically salivating at the bit to start something.

Alana on January 13, 2011 at 10:01 PM

When you have to argue that the president is more presidential than an unelected woman you deem an accomplice to mass murder, your president just might have a problem with his presidential cred.

Rational Thought on January 13, 2011 at 8:27 PM

Oh yeah, meant to point that out something on that order, too.

Alana on January 13, 2011 at 10:02 PM

(Indignation for us, I mean.)

Alana on January 13, 2011 at 10:02 PM

What the media doesn’t get is that Palin’s not playing their game. Not Olby’s game, not Maddow’s game, not Krauthammer’s game, not Will’s game. She’s not into following their rules. And dammit, they’re pissed that she’s not falling in line. To understand Palin, you can’t think like a beltway insider.

WordsMatter on January 13, 2011 at 10:03 PM

I think the useful idiots, AP and Ed M. need to go see Ms. Malkin and spend about an hour in a locked room with her so she can straighten ‘em out. The past 24 hours have been a historical HotAir low point.

WordsMatter on January 13, 2011 at 10:05 PM

FINS:

“Sure, Sarah Palin didn’t pull the trigger. But then, neither did Charles Manson.” – auntbeast via Pharyngula

by wyvern on Thu Jan 13, 2011 at 06:50:43 PM PST

No one has accused her of murder?? Seriously?

Charles Milles Manson (born November 12, 1934) is an American criminal who led what became known as the Manson Family, a quasi-commune that arose in California in the late 1960s.[1][2]:163–4, 313[3] He was found guilty of conspiracy to commit the Tate/LaBianca murders carried out by members of the group at his instruction. He was convicted of the murders through the joint-responsibility rule, which makes each member of a conspiracy guilty of crimes his fellow conspirators commit in furtherance of the conspiracy’s object.[4][5] WIKI

CWforFreedom on January 13, 2011 at 10:05 PM

Kos is not a part of the MSM. The claim is that the MSM accused Palin of murder. I assert they did no such thing.

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 9:56 PM

No, that just sounds like you moved the goalposts again. The media HAS said that Sarah Palin has blood on her hands.

Rep. Gabrielle Giffords’ blood is on Sarah Palin’s hands after putting cross hair over district by Michael Daly

Just what are you trying to prove anyway?

Aitch748 on January 13, 2011 at 10:05 PM

WordsMatter,

choosing not to play is one thing. lacking the ability and thus not having a choice is another.

audiculous on January 13, 2011 at 10:06 PM

FINS yes they are insinuating that she is responsible for the murders. Later… you are brain damaged.

CWforFreedom on January 13, 2011 at 10:07 PM

Murder is a serious accusation.

But inciting murder or being an accomplice to it, that’s just a frivolous accusation. Happens daily.

Missy on January 13, 2011 at 10:07 PM

Aitch748, many in the mainstream media assert that Palin incited violence.
No one in the mainstream of the media or of politics has accused her of murder.

audiculous on January 13, 2011 at 10:08 PM

choosing not to play is one thing. lacking the ability and thus not having a choice is another.

audiculous on January 13, 2011 at 10:06 PM

One gratuitous assertion deserves another: Sarah Palin is VASTLY smarter and better-informed than you will ever realize.

Aitch748 on January 13, 2011 at 10:09 PM

Missy on January 13, 2011 at 10:07 PM

She moved the goalposts again.

John the Libertarian on January 13, 2011 at 10:10 PM

Aitch748, many in the mainstream media assert that Palin incited violence.
No one in the mainstream of the media or of politics has accused her of murder.

audiculous on January 13, 2011 at 10:08 PM

That’s nice. Have I stated that somebody in the media accused her of murder? Not of being an accomplice to murder, but of actually pulling the trigger herself?

Aitch748 on January 13, 2011 at 10:11 PM

It is amazing that so much passive-aggressiveness flowers among the Left.

Must be that liberal gene we’ve recently learned about.

coldwarrior on January 13, 2011 at 10:12 PM

Why Sarah will win and why she drives some nuts.
Sarah reminds me of my 4 foot 9 inch grandmother. She could wither anybody with “THE LOOK” and had command presence without saying much. She held off a whole load of drunken Cherokee braves on a Saturday night in Stroud Indian Territory(Oklahoma) with my baby mother in one arm and a 12 Ga Browning in her right hand. The braves thought it was funny to ride across her front porch.
Sunday morning The Chief rode into town in his best outfit apologized, gave her an offering, his blessing as a STRONG LADY.
The local men already knew that she was a leader, the chief knew it, the reporter from an Eastern Magazine had seen it and just did not understand what he had witnessed. Teddy Roosevelt knew these Ladies as he encounter women like this on his many trips West. Left Coast boys and Preppies will never understand powerful women in the sense that we do.
Sarah has that presence and will confound the John Cornans of the world,she will prevail if she decides to make this run.
I suspect some of the men posting here have not stood on 60000 wind swept acres and watched a Lady with her men bring in the heard,set the camp,tend to the needs of the help. finally write her log,then eat and pack it in for the day.
Guys you are looking at a Lady from the West,Sarah, that has what all the pioneer women have,GRIT,DETERMINATION,GUTS. that is what makes America Great, our women folk.

Col.John Wm. Reed on January 13, 2011 at 10:12 PM

Aitch748, many in the mainstream media assert that Palin incited violence.
No one in the mainstream of the media or of politics has accused her of murder.

audiculous on January 13, 2011 at 10:08 PM

Both are ridiculous and only make those using the former appear foolish to the sane.

darwin-t on January 13, 2011 at 10:14 PM

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 9:31 PM

OK on the first 2, but define “major newspaper” please. Top 10 by circulation?

Del Dolemonte on January 13, 2011 at 9:39 PM

No response? What is a “major newspaper”?

I’ll check back on this thread in the morning. Gotta go finish snowblowng the 15″ of Global Warming I got here yesterday.

Del Dolemonte on January 13, 2011 at 10:14 PM

Well said, AP. :applause:

irishspy on January 13, 2011 at 10:15 PM

“Laura Ingraham really smacked him down tonight. She wouldn’t let him talk over her like always does. I hate when he tries to be Mr. Centrist and kisses up to Obama.
TxAnn56 on January 13, 2011 at 9:54 PM”

Yes I saw that. She did great. I liked how she outed FNC having an upcoming interview with Obama and insinuated that they were taking it easy on Barry so he wouldn’t stiff them on the interview. That was a ROTFL comment.

JimP on January 13, 2011 at 10:15 PM

What the media doesn’t get is that Palin’s not playing their game. Not Olby’s game, not Maddow’s game, not Krauthammer’s game, not Will’s game. She’s not into following their rules. And dammit, they’re pissed that she’s not falling in line. To understand Palin, you can’t think like a beltway insider.

WordsMatter on January 13, 2011 at 10:03 PM

<:) She's "running outside the box"!
Not using the standard fare of poll testers and consultants, media mouth pieces and Presstitutes!

She's going around the media whores and speaking directly to "We The People" from her heart and is raising money and support along the way without the consultants who screwed her over before and who siphon their fees from her hard work.
She is out running any and all competition and making them look pathetic and weak!

For this the elites seek to destroy her as she plays not their games nor shares with them her funds and they know when she wins the Whitehouse they will be on the outside lookin in with Sarah owing them not a damn thing.

She seeks to return the country to "We The People" and wrest control from the inside the beltway political, industrial, media complex that has been screwin over "We The People" and spending our money frivolously for generations!

Run Sarah Run!

You are the only One with this message for the times and we will sign up, step up and help you!

dhunter on January 13, 2011 at 10:17 PM

No one in the mainstream of the media or of politics has accused her of murder.

audiculous on January 13, 2011 at 10:08 PM

What’s your point in this anyway? That the two are significantly different and thus it’s unforgivable hyperbole to equate the two?

Esthier on January 13, 2011 at 10:18 PM

Doesn’t she have a clause so she can appear on NPR too? Just like Juan?

Del Dolemonte on January 13, 2011 at 9:09 PM

no like most contracts the only time she can appear on other stations is when she is selling a book. hence the interviews for ABc et all when she did a book tour. this is a false narrative started by the MSM because they know she is legally not allowed to go on other networks.

unseen on January 13, 2011 at 10:19 PM

Must be that liberal gene we’ve recently learned about.

coldwarrior on January 13, 2011 at 10:12
Could be like the drunken kennedy kid referring to his mummy at age 50,the left males may just be P whipped little preppies.

Col.John Wm. Reed on January 13, 2011 at 10:19 PM

You lot are throwing around the charge that she was accused of murder. I want to see the evidence. So far, crickets.

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 9:46 PM

You’ve ignore this link twice, now. I wonder why?

blood on her hands

There were many other examples given. One calling for the arrest of Sarah Palin. You’re so dishonest….

JannyMae on January 13, 2011 at 10:24 PM

who is now at the blunt end of all Liberals..HATE,
RAGE..ANGER….and ad nausem!:)

canopfor on January 13, 2011 at 9:56 PM

Oh yeah, you mean they are going to say mean things about Sarah Palin on Cable News channels, no one watches, and in newspapers no one reads…..So same old, same old, same sh1t different day :)

They have polled people more than once, since Saturday’s shooting in Arizona. Conclusion, basically the Leftest Media threw a tantrum. It’s unfortunate but that’s what the Left does it throws a fit, and says mean things…it’s impotent to do anything else. That’s not entirely true…sometimes they cheer at Memorials for Murder victims like they are attending a pep rally…come to think of it – that’s kind of bi polar…Nashing their teeth, rending their garments, pulling their hair, followed by inappropriate cheering at a somber event.

Dr Evil on January 13, 2011 at 10:24 PM

Your candidate will be Destroyed……….be ready.

PappyD61 on January 13, 2011 at 9:15 PM

and after what I have seen from the gop establishment over the last 5 days i will not blame one Palin supporter who joins the left in tearing them down one by freaking one

unseen on January 13, 2011 at 10:25 PM

unseen on January 13, 2011 at 10:19 PM

Unseen…really?
I did not know that. Why is that not more common knowledge?….stupid question, I know.

tencole on January 13, 2011 at 10:28 PM

Esthier , my point is that one guy keeps saying that no one in the media accused Palin of murder and eighteen other people insist that the media did call her a murderess.

it ain’t so.

audiculous on January 13, 2011 at 10:28 PM

Google: Sarah Palin “Blood on her hands” 711,000 results.

Here’s another one from Examiner

Want more? Google them yourself, you LYING POS.

JannyMae on January 13, 2011 at 10:29 PM

Palin is just doing all this to make a lot of money.

She’s a mercenary idiot.

MSM meme to fall back on in case all else fails.

Look for it coming to a media outlet nearest you!

profitsbeard on January 13, 2011 at 10:29 PM

Almost completely off-topic, but…

I just realized looking at the pic under the headline, SP really should eschew the colored outfits, and stick with conservative colors and cuts of clothes. It makes her look far more serious.

JohnGalt23 on January 13, 2011 at 10:31 PM

Credit where it’s due: pretty good post AP. Unless it’s someone else posting using your name. I kid.

It’s like someone being beat to sh!t and then when they start fighting back, people say “well……WHY are you fighting back?? that must mean you really ARE guilty!111!!!”

I hope she wins the presidency just to drive them even more crazy. Is that wrong? I don’t wanna be right then.

B Man on January 13, 2011 at 10:32 PM

Esthier , my point is that one guy keeps saying that no one in the media accused Palin of murder and eighteen other people insist that the media did call her a murderess.

it ain’t so.

audiculous on January 13, 2011 at 10:28 PM

Blood on her hands. That is so much milder than calling her a murderess. Uh huh.

JannyMae on January 13, 2011 at 10:33 PM

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