Media meme o’ the day: Obama’s speech was much more presidential than Palin’s

posted at 8:04 pm on January 13, 2011 by Allahpundit

This is a useful way to wrap up (hopefully) the coverage of Our National Conversation On Rhetoric as it’s a stark example of how easily the propaganda about Palin’s culpability in the shootings was accepted as a political fact of life. There are two ways a reporter could address yesterday’s oratorical bookends by her and Obama. One: “Hey, isn’t it insane that Palin had to give this speech? People don’t normally have to point out that they’re not responsible for a mass murder that they’re not linked to in any way, do they?” Call that the “reality-based” approach. Two: “How silly of Palin to set up an unfavorable contrast with Obama by giving a defensive speech on a day when he’s pushing uplift. Don’t her advisors know anything about ‘messaging’?” We’ll call that the “you’re badly missing the point” take. It’s true as far as it goes — Palin’s team should have anticipated that some viewers will naturally compare her tone to his, notwithstanding the two speeches’ dramatically different circumstances — but it’s also utterly banal and lazy. What’s a more constructive use of a political reporter’s time — pointing out to his audience the eminently apparent fact that, yes indeed, Palin’s tone doesn’t compare favorably to Obama’s in this case? Or pointing out, in case they’re not aware, that that might be because she had to respond to an endless Orwellian smear tying her to a homicidal lunatic? Accuse The One of complicity in mass murder and, I assure you, his reaction won’t be sunshine and candy canes either.

The “badly missing the point” take is what I was getting at in goofing on Politico yesterday. For political media, whether any facts exist that link the right to Loughner is more or less immaterial; what matters is that the left’s narrative of tying the right to Loughner exists and, as such, it’s a fact of political life that should be assimilated and covered like any other. Obama’s eulogizing the victims of a shooting and Palin’s defending herself from the repulsive charge that she’s somehow responsible for the body count, but since they both spoke on the same day, well, that’s good enough for a moronic superficial horserace-type comparison. Politico:

At sunrise in the East on Wednesday, Sarah Palin demonstrated that she has little interest — or capacity — in moving beyond her brand of grievance-based politics. And at sundown in the West, Barack Obama reminded even his critics of his ability to rally disparate Americans around a message of reconciliation…

The former Alaska governor has a knack for supplying rhetoric that will delight her supporters, send her critics howling and invariably create a frenzy of coverage. But her response suggests she is capable of hitting just that one note…

But for much of the eight-minute talk she was defensive and showed little interest in doing anything other than channeling the understandable resentment of her ideological kinsmen over the blame-casting. And that won’t appeal much to a political center that — even while they may not think Palin is in any way responsible for Tucson — preferred more conciliation even before the jarring attempted assassination of a member of Congress.

A homework assignment for aspiring speechwriters: Try to write an address titled “I Didn’t Kill Anyone” without sounding aggrieved. More from the Times:

Ms. Palin’s decision to post the video on the Internet on Wednesday morning all but invited comparisons to the president’s previously announced appearance at the memorial service for those slain in Arizona.

And her choice of words — most notably the accusation that her critics were guilty of “blood libel” for the things they have said about her — made it impossible to ignore the video as merely another statement from a politician…

[W]hat could not have been more different was the tone. Where Ms. Palin was direct and forceful, Mr. Obama was soft and restrained. Where Ms. Palin was accusatory, Mr. Obama appeared to go out of his way to avoid pointing fingers or assigning blame. Where she stressed the importance of fighting for our different beliefs, he emphasized our need for unity, referring to the “American family — 300 million strong.”

Nowhere in the piece does the Times explain precisely what “things they have said about her.” If you read it without knowing the backstory of the past several days and the left’s obsession with her crosshairs map, you might think Palin had posted a video to eulogize the victims and then inexplicably launched into a tirade against the media halfway through based on old grievances, like the Couric interview. The closest it comes to filling the reader in is to quote her denouncing “mindless finger-pointing we endured in the wake of the tragedy.”

And on we go. Here’s some refreshing candor from Lloyd Grove: Yes, it’s unfair to compare the two speeches — but why should that stop us?

The prematurely retired Alaska governor had to serve up her remarks, really a litany of complaints against her critics and political adversaries, while seated in front of a non-working stone fireplace, apparently at her home in Wasilla—a claustrophobic setting framed by an outsize American flag.

The president got to deliver his affecting half-hour of heartfelt reflection and soulful inspiration—repeatedly interrupted by standing ovations—to an arena at the University of Arizona filled to the rafters with 14,000 mourners, notably members of his Cabinet and the Supreme Court, the governor of Arizona, the astronaut-husband of wounded Rep. Gabby Giffords, the heroes who risked their own lives to save others, the doctors and nurses who tended the injured and bleeding, and the friends and families of the six people, including a 9-year-old girl, who were killed by a gun-wielding maniac Saturday morning at a shopping center.

“At the end of the day, after listening to the president, we’ll know why he’s president and she never will be,” said Robert Shrum.

To the speechwriters: For extra credit on your assignment, figure out a “presidential” way to explore the theme, “I Didn’t Beam Homicidal Mind Control Rays into that Crazed Gunman’s Brain.” The big joke here, of course, is that the only “presidential” way Palin could have handled this — according to the media, I mean — would be to simply let this whole thing slide. That’s what presidents do, right? Thick skin, stiff upper lip, even when their enemies are being terribly unfair to them. When it comes to politics, that’s business as usual. My point this week, though, and Ace’s point at his site, has been that this episode isn’t business as usual. This isn’t some standard “Palin’s using rhetorical dog whistles for her Christian base!” attack. This is a congresswoman bleeding out of her head on the sidewalk with six bodies lying around her, one of them a little girl, and Palin being blamed for it instantly. And yet according to Keith Ellison, the proper response here should have been to validate that accusation by implication by saying, gee, yeah, I guess I should have toned it down. I’m not known for being a Palin fan (as, er, any actual Palin fan could tell you) and even I can’t contain my indignation at the charge. And yet she’s supposed to just mellow out and take it because political reporters who won’t flatly correct the record for their readers think it’s bad “optics” to do otherwise? Unbelievable.


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Thank you Ministry of Truth!

Inanemergencydial on January 13, 2011 at 8:07 PM

But Osama Obama really hit one out of the park last night, right, AP?

MrScribbler on January 13, 2011 at 8:07 PM

Yeah, but her basketball game is way better than his.

Insecure much, these leftist media folks?

beatcanvas on January 13, 2011 at 8:08 PM

to wrap up (hopefully) the coverage of Our National Conversation On Rhetoric

Let’s just shorten it to ONCOR.

Christien on January 13, 2011 at 8:08 PM

Palins speech was more Presidential than Obama’s.

*raspberries*

This crap is getting absolutely ridiculous. It will backfire.

Saltysam on January 13, 2011 at 8:08 PM

Well, I should hope so considering he’s actually, you know, the President. I thought both speeches were well done.

Emily M. on January 13, 2011 at 8:09 PM

Wow. I just can’t believe what’s happened to our news media. Even having lived through the last decade, I still can’t believe it sometimes.

apollyonbob on January 13, 2011 at 8:10 PM

To the speechwriters: For extra credit on your assignment, figure out a “presidential” way to explore the theme, “I Didn’t Beam Homicidal Mind Control Rays into that Crazed Gunman’s Brain.”

The PR war was already won. She didn’t need to make a video. And to put it out on the day of this big memorial was just tactically stupid.

ninjapirate on January 13, 2011 at 8:10 PM

I quite frankly think that Palin doesn’t give a damn if the media compares her speech to Obama’s. She knows she could have recited all of Hamlet perfectly while Obama read the ingredient list of a box of Lucky Charms, and the media would’ve fellated him and crucified her. That’s why she tends not to play the game. You can’t play when the rules stay the same for you opponent while they continually change for you.

jimmy2shoes on January 13, 2011 at 8:10 PM

Pravda!

blatantblue on January 13, 2011 at 8:10 PM

You really think its over? Its not, this will go on for months, given tis what the Left and a few others want.

No, I’m sorry. If we can accuse someone of being accessory to murder that they in no way are linked to – I can hold the President accountable for not controlling the venue, the substance of his speech is really beside the point, given he has not leashed his attack dogs agianst the Right and Gov. Palin.

I’m just not going to tolerate this wrongness anymore. No, not at all. Its over the GOP better clean up its act as well. Otherwise I hope they get four more years of Obama – the blame will be on them when that happens.

Sharr on January 13, 2011 at 8:11 PM

Politico has totally beclowned itself this week. Utterly and completely. I expected this kind of garbage from the New York Times, but not really from Politico. It is just another house propaganda organ for the White house now.

rockmom on January 13, 2011 at 8:12 PM

Regardless of what they think of her, they apparently are conceding that she is THE competition.

littleguy on January 13, 2011 at 8:12 PM

Hopefully, now that President Obama has called us all to task, we’ll realize the hurtful language we’ve been using, and we’ll be able to set aside our personal grievances and begin to work together on our common problems.

I applaud your heroic efforts in this Mr. AllahPundit, and look forward to the time when we can all Unite and Thrive Together. We’ve worked this sad tale over quite thoroughly, and now it’s time to move on.

Skandia Recluse on January 13, 2011 at 8:13 PM

The PR war was already won. She didn’t need to make a video. And to put it out on the day of this big memorial was just tactically stupid.

ninjapirate on January 13, 2011 at 8:10 PM

So it would have been brilliant for her to shut up and say nothing? While Keith Olbermann and company run graphics saying “Silent Sarah”?

Talk about “damned if you do, damned if you don’t!” Sheesh.

rockmom on January 13, 2011 at 8:14 PM

In the last century, the left led the world down a path that resulted in the murder of over a hundred million people. I’ve always thought it could never happen again, but now I’m not so sure.

Blake on January 13, 2011 at 8:15 PM

Keep an eye out for the next meme of the day…the White House and their lapdogs in the State Controlled Media are now desperately going into full-spin cycle trying to explain why the “Memorial Service” was held in a university basketball arena and was attended by 26,000 people.

Baghdad Bob Gibbs started it with his briefing today, and the Leftists who run the University of Arizona are already grabbing their ankles and bending over to help the WH.

There were only 3,000 at the Ford Hood Memorial Service.

And for a true national tragedy, the Challenger 7 Memorial Service at NASA in Houston, there were 10,000. But remember, those folks were bona fide “American Heroes”, including the first Teacher in Space.

Having a crowd of 26,000 at a “Memorial Service” for 6 people who were mostly ordinary citizens (except for the Federal Judge) was way over the top. And proof that it was basically a political pep rally.

Del Dolemonte on January 13, 2011 at 8:15 PM

Poor, poor Barry. It was his best campaign speech ever, and Sarah just had to insert herself to steal his limelight.

Christien on January 13, 2011 at 8:15 PM

Unreal.

I stick with my original comment, Palin’s statement came off as far more “presidential” than The One’s t-shirt giveaway conversation of healing. He wasn’t bad…best he’s been for sure on speaking of tragedies, but Palin pwned.

JetBoy on January 13, 2011 at 8:15 PM

**400 word, typo-ridden tirade on why Hot Air shouldn’t even be quoting that Journ0lista rag Politico in the first place.**

(Thought I’d just save y’all having to read it this time)

Knott Buyinit on January 13, 2011 at 8:15 PM

Obama is President, that’s whats expected.

Has anyone told the media that Palin is a private citizen?

Knucklehead on January 13, 2011 at 8:16 PM

The president got to deliver his affecting half-hour of heartfelt reflection and soulful inspiration—repeatedly interrupted by standing ovations—to an arena at the University of Arizona filled to the rafters with 14,000 mourners,

Can someone splain that to me? I cannot square that circle!

and

Where Ms. Palin was accusatory, Mr. Obama appeared to go out of his way to avoid pointing fingers or assigning blame.

Um, was he accused of anything like, being responsible for the wounding of many and the deaths of six!

bluemarlin on January 13, 2011 at 8:16 PM

America’s Enduring Strength
by Sarah Palin on

Wednesday, January 12, 2011 at 6:52am

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=487510653434

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President
TRANSCRIPT: Obama Address for Tucson Memorial Service

Published January 13, 2011
FoxNews.com

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/13/transcript-obama-address-tucson-memorial-service/

canopfor on January 13, 2011 at 8:16 PM

The PR war was already won. She didn’t need to make a video. And to put it out on the day of this big memorial was just tactically stupid.

ninjapirate on January 13, 2011 at 8:10 PM

LOL, you would have called it tactically stupid no matter what day she released it.

Del Dolemonte on January 13, 2011 at 8:16 PM

Obama’s speech was much more presidential than Palin’s

Could because he’s a president and she’s not.

But, no matter. Palin’s speech was by far and away the more successful of the two because after hearing her speech, I felt healed. After hearing his speech, I did not feel healed.

In fact, after his speech, I felt angry and betrayed and divided and alienated — and I think the reason was because his speech was all so transparently phony. It was just ear-pleasing words written by a team of trained emotions-manipulators and intended to be spoken by a guy with a really pleasing voice. It was all just pure theater — not a sincere thing about it.

FlameWarrior on January 13, 2011 at 8:16 PM

Sarah has received hundreds of death threats in the past 3-4 days. I think it wise to let up on the Sarah bandwagon for a while and let this woman take a breath. I know anything Sarah Palin gets traffic to this site, but for goodness sakes, she is truly in danger; as is her family…

Keemo on January 13, 2011 at 8:18 PM

Cuda
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Our exceptional nation, so vibrant with ideas and the passionate exchange and debate of ideas, is a light to the rest of the world. Congresswoman Giffords and her constituents were exercising their right to exchange ideas that day, to celebrate our Republic’s core values and peacefully assemble to petition our government. It’s inexcusable and incomprehensible why a single evil man took the lives of peaceful citizens that day.

Hopey
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They were fulfilling a central tenet of the democracy envisioned by our founders: representatives of the people answering questions to their constituents, so as to carry their concerns back to our nation’s capital. Gabby called it “Congress on Your Corner,” just an updated version of government of and by and for the people.

canopfor on January 13, 2011 at 8:19 PM

So, Obama’s speech was more Presidential than Palin’s? Ok. Maybe that’s because he’s…the President? Zero’s ‘Presidential’ cred should be measured against the words and actions of former Presidents, not against the words and actions private citizens. Si?

joejm65 on January 13, 2011 at 8:19 PM

I skipped right over the quoted sections from NYT and Politico. Didn’t even read the quotes, let alone click thru. This ought to matter to someone. But — they’ve crossed a line this time. It’s fucking WAR, bitches.

Purple Fury on January 13, 2011 at 8:20 PM

… but isn’t Obama, uh, president?

Ian on January 13, 2011 at 8:20 PM

The PR war was already won. She didn’t need to make a video. And to put it out on the day of this big memorial was just tactically stupid.

ninjapirate on January 13, 2011 at 8:10 PM

You fail…

Keemo on January 13, 2011 at 8:21 PM

Unbelievable.

But harsh reality.

the_nile on January 13, 2011 at 8:22 PM

I doubt that I have read a single thread here at HA that did not contain some violent imagery. It is embedded in our culture. You do not have to hunt (heh) very hard to find examples on HuffPo either.

Glad to see a little indignation from AP on the SP treatment.

It is not our differences, but our commonalities, that make us the strong nation that we are.

GnuBreed on January 13, 2011 at 8:22 PM

OT….

Laura Ingraham just destroyed BOR,

Knucklehead on January 13, 2011 at 8:22 PM

Allahpundit writes…….

the left’s obsession with her crosshairs map

Allahpundit fails to mention that the person who complained about that crosshairs map was……

We’ve had hundreds and hundreds of protesters over the course of the last several months. Our office corner has really become an area where the Tea Party movement congregates. And the rhetoric is incredibly heated. Not just the calls, but the emails, the slurs. So things have really gotten spun up. But you gotta think about it. Our democracy is a light, a beacon really around the world, because we effect change at the ballot box, and not because of these outbursts — of violence in certain cases, and the yelling, and it’s just … you know, change is important, it’s a part of our process, but it’s really important that we focus on the fact that we have a democratic process.”

“I think it’s important for all leaders, not just leaders of the Republican Party or the Democratic Party … community leaders, figures in our community to say, ‘Look, we can’t stand for this.’ I mean, this is a situation where people really need to realize that the rhetoric, and firing people up, and even things … For example, we’re on Sarah Palin’s targeted list, but the thing is, the way she has it depicted has the crosshairs of a gunsight over our district. And when people do that, they’ve gotta realize there’s consequences to that action.”

“In the years that some of my colleagues have served, twenty, thirty years, they’ve never seen it like this. We have to work out our problems by negotiating, working together, hopefully Democrats and Republicans.”

–Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, March 25, 2010.

Maybe people have a reason to be looking Palin’s way…..
Maybe people are wondering why Palin kept that crosshairs map up….despite Giffords’ words,until it was taken down right after Giffords and the other victims were taken down.

audiculous on January 13, 2011 at 8:22 PM

I think “blood libel” was exactly the right phrase to apply to this situation. All my life I could never understand the antisemitism of Europe prior to WWII. All the accusations against the Jews were facially false, yet entire nations were swept up by them and incited into acts of mass violence. And yet here I am sitting in the middle of the same phenomenon, with national leaders and the media making ridiculous claims that any high-school debating society would have felt was beneath them to disprove, and otherwise sane and reasonable people are buying into it. I guess I just totally underestimated how crazy the human race is or something, I feel like Alice in the Red Queen’s court.

Socratease on January 13, 2011 at 8:23 PM

Where was Mitt, T-Paw, Huck and the rest of the gang while the media crucified Palin and the Tea Party?

Amadeus on January 13, 2011 at 8:23 PM

They’ve already elevated her to the role of the Presidency.

yogi41 on January 13, 2011 at 8:23 PM

I new Politico was going to end up an mouth piece for the administration. I new it the moment Hugh Hewitt started having Mike Alan on regularly.

jawkneemusic on January 13, 2011 at 8:23 PM

The PR war was already won. She didn’t need to make a video. And to put it out on the day of this big memorial was just tactically stupid.

ninjapirate on January 13, 2011 at 8:10 PM

Isn`t that CK`s line?

bluemarlin on January 13, 2011 at 8:24 PM

Where was Mitt, T-Paw, Huck and the rest of the gang while the media crucified Palin and the Tea Party?

Amadeus on January 13, 2011 at 8:23 PM

Wussies hiding out behind closed doors. Pathetic…

Keemo on January 13, 2011 at 8:24 PM

OT

“Mommy, are you going to get shot? Please no Mommy. Mommy, Florida is going to pass and enact the same anti-immigration bill that Arizona passed, Mommy…..”

Debbie Wasserman-Shultze tonight recalls a conversation with her daughter the day of the shooting and tells a teary eyed Katie Couric, CBS News. (via the gang at Newsbusters)

Marcus on January 13, 2011 at 8:24 PM

This is a useful way to wrap up (hopefully) the coverage of Our National Conversation On Rhetoric

Much like that loooooong conversation on race. :-D

SouthernGent on January 13, 2011 at 8:25 PM

A homework assignment for aspiring speechwriters: Try to write an address titled “I Didn’t Kill Anyone” without sounding aggrieved.

Ha! Awesome. Sad, but awesome.

Weight of Glory on January 13, 2011 at 8:25 PM

And yet she’s supposed to just mellow out and take it because political reporters who won’t flatly correct the record for their readers think it’s bad “optics” to do otherwise? Unbelievable.

The conservative talkers are raving about the President’s Arizona Massacre Memorial speech….which didn’t contain any talk about not jumping to conclusions. I guess there were no Muslims or other specific protected minorities involved in the murders? So we are all free to draw our own conclusions.

And conservative commentators and pundits are trying very hard to follow the liberal script. Yes the President’s speech was much better than Sarah Palin’s speech. They are acting like a bunch of abused house wife’s. The conservatives are playing defense. Why exactly? They didn’t do anything.

But that’s how spousal abuse works. The abuser beats the spouse the spouse promises to do whatever the abusers wants to make the beatings stop…that’s what is going on in the media. The Left went bat sh1t crazy on the Right, and instead of firmly rejecting and blocking the beating. The Right is trying to appease the Left whenever possible……Geeze President Obama gave a great speech at the Arizona Massacre Memorial…too bad about the vendors who were shut out of the t- shirt contract. Geeze and the those t-shirts got a lot of national coverage. I am sure that’s going to be good for the t- shirt vendor’s business. Too Bad the kids weren’t told ahead of time it was a Memorial for murdered people, not a pep rally. Ow! Ouch!….what did I say, I said it was too bad…..put the stick with the nail in it down/

Dr Evil on January 13, 2011 at 8:25 PM

OT….

Laura Ingraham just destroyed BOR,

Knucklehead on January 13, 2011 at 8:22 PM

Bill Oh did not like “I know you’re getting ready to have him on the show….”

Marcus on January 13, 2011 at 8:25 PM

audiculous on January 13, 2011 at 8:22 PM

That crap has already been debunked into the sewer pal.

Keemo on January 13, 2011 at 8:26 PM

Where was Mitt, T-Paw, Huck and the rest of the gang while the media crucified Palin and the Tea Party?

Amadeus on January 13, 2011 at 8:23 PM

My guess, smiling and doing things you can go blind for, or so I have been told.

bluemarlin on January 13, 2011 at 8:26 PM

BLM=ZonaZoo pouring out of the stands onto the sidelines in celebration before regulation ended in the 2009 Oregon vs. Arizona game. Oregon ties it up, of course, and wins in 2OT. Look on fans’ faces…priceless.

Christien on January 13, 2011 at 8:26 PM

Cuda
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resident Reagan said, “We must reject the idea that every time a law’s broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.” Acts of monstrous criminality stand on their own. They begin and end with the criminals who commit them, not collectively with all the citizens of a state, not with those who listen to talk radio, not with maps of swing districts used by both sides of the aisle, not with law-abiding citizens who respectfully exercise their First Amendment rights at campaign rallies, not with those who proudly voted in the last election.

Hopey
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But at a time when our discourse has become so sharply polarized, at a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who happen to think differently than we do, it’s important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we’re talking with each other in a way that — that heals, not in a way that wounds.

Scripture tells us that there is evil in the world and that terrible things happen for reasons that defy human understanding. In the words of Job, “When I looked for light, then came darkness.” Bad things happen, and we have to guard against simple explanations in the aftermath.

Already, we’ve seen a national conversation commence, not only about the motivations behind these killings, but about everything from the merits of gun safety laws to the adequacy of our mental health system. And much — much of this process…

canopfor on January 13, 2011 at 8:26 PM

the left is just upset because Palin’s speech was better than Obama’s pep rally. they need to spin.

Oh and BTW notice that the press is comparing Gov Palin to the POTUS. I guess allah missed that point. Name another national figure that the press compares to a sitting president of the USA.

that my friend is power.

unseen on January 13, 2011 at 8:26 PM

Palin’s team should have anticipated that some viewers will naturally compare her tone to his,

So what, you cant win them all. There’s always tradeoffs.

She showed defiance against barking madness.

the_nile on January 13, 2011 at 8:27 PM

When you have to argue that the president is more presidential than an unelected woman you deem an accomplice to mass murder, your president just might have a problem with his presidential cred.

Rational Thought on January 13, 2011 at 8:27 PM

The “blood libel” was a bit over the top, though libel would work.

Actually, Kirsten Powers post is much more presidential than Obama’s.

AshleyTKing on January 13, 2011 at 8:28 PM

Maybe people have a reason to be looking Palin’s way…..

Yeah, I can see that. I mean, Palin’s map had X’s to mark political opponents while the Democrat’s maps had O’s. I can totally see how one would be an incitement to violence why the other is just business as usual. That makes perfect sense.

Socratease on January 13, 2011 at 8:28 PM

Where was Mitt, T-Paw, Huck and the rest of the gang while the media crucified Palin and the Tea Party?

Amadeus on January 13, 2011 at 8:23 PM

In all fairness I saw huck defend her on CNN.

unseen on January 13, 2011 at 8:28 PM

And yet she’s supposed to just mellow out and take it because political reporters who won’t flatly correct the record for their readers think it’s bad “optics” to do otherwise?

Yes. It’s called being Presidential. If she wants to lead Americans–*all* Americans, not just those Americans who frequent the fever swamps of the right blogosphere, she needs to avoid sounding like a whiny b*tch, which she failed to do in the last 25% of her speech yesterday. Engaging with a wider pool of journos than the FOX stable of soft ball throwers would help her chances too.

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 8:30 PM

In all fairness I saw huck defend her on CNN.

unseen on January 13, 2011 at 8:28 PM

Good to know.

bluemarlin on January 13, 2011 at 8:30 PM

When you have to argue that the president is more presidential than an unelected woman you deem an accomplice to mass murder, your president just might have a problem with his presidential cred.

Rational Thought on January 13, 2011 at 8:27 PM

This.

jimmy2shoes on January 13, 2011 at 8:30 PM

Where was Mitt, T-Paw, Huck and the rest of the gang while the media crucified Palin and the Tea Party?

Amadeus on January 13, 2011 at 8:23 PM

Good old T-Paw took advantage of Palin the other day and tossed her under the bus. Watching Ed trying to clean up the crap was quite amusing.

Knucklehead on January 13, 2011 at 8:30 PM

In all fairness I saw huck defend her on CNN.

unseen on January 13, 2011 at 8:28 PM

I missed that. Thanks

Amadeus on January 13, 2011 at 8:31 PM

Every day, my mind, which I thought was already blown as blown can be, is blown again, by a newer, more powerful (translate: more absurd) rant against a normal person who posted a professional, articulate, considerate and pointed (and, I might add, brief) video on her Facebook page to answer allegations that she had somehow precipitated a mass murder in Arizona while probably doing laundry on a Saturday afternoon up in Alaska.

It doesn’t cease. It’s unbelievable. It’s incredible.

Okay, my question is this:

If this is what we get under these, relatively non-threatening (to the politically insane Olberman/Krugman cult) circumstances…

What are they going to do when they see millions of Americans lining up to actually vote this woman into office?

I fear for their safety. Not from Palin supporters. But, from themselves.

Is there a morning after pill for head explosions?

IndieDogg on January 13, 2011 at 8:31 PM

Wow. What a comparison. One IS President. One is a citizen who is not at the moment even running for anything…

And she’s already made it a contest.

Just wow!

UnderstandingisPower on January 13, 2011 at 8:32 PM

In all fairness I saw huck defend her on CNN.

unseen on January 13, 2011 at 8:28 PM

If these are the leaders of the Republican party, then they all need to get in front of every camera they can and defend Sarah, freedom of speech (talk radio,) and the millions of us Tea Party people. Don’t let the Progressives slaughter us and then move on to the next slaughter.

Keemo on January 13, 2011 at 8:32 PM

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 8:30 PM

FU and the horse you rode in on.

djohn669 on January 13, 2011 at 8:32 PM

Yes. It’s called being Presidential. If she wants to lead Americans–*all* Americans, not just those Americans who frequent the fever swamps of the right blogosphere, she needs to avoid sounding like a whiny b*tch, which she failed to do in the last 25% of her speech yesterday. Engaging with a wider pool of journos than the FOX stable of soft ball throwers would help her chances too.

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 8:30 PM

That’s the most asinine thing I’ve ever heard. The woman was FALSELY ACCUSED OF MURDER BY THE MEDIA, AND THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES DIDN’T HAVE THE BALLS TO REFUTE THEM.

jimmy2shoes on January 13, 2011 at 8:32 PM

Bill Oh did not like “I know you’re getting ready to have him on the show….”

Marcus on January 13, 2011 at 8:25 PM

So that’s why Fox is cowering.

the_nile on January 13, 2011 at 8:32 PM

Sarah, Sarah. No one do that voodoo like you do. ✪

TXUS on January 13, 2011 at 8:32 PM

The woman was FALSELY ACCUSED OF MURDER BY THE MEDIA, AND THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES DIDN’T HAVE THE BALLS TO REFUTE THEM.

Who accused her of murder? No one I heard.

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 8:33 PM

I’m not known for being a Palin fan (as, er, any actual Palin fan could tell you) and even I can’t contain my indignation at the charge. And yet she’s supposed to just mellow out and take it because political reporters who won’t flatly correct the record for their readers think it’s bad “optics” to do otherwise?

nice work.

ted c on January 13, 2011 at 8:33 PM

That crap has already been debunked into the sewer pal.

Keemo

What?!!!? That quotation that I posted is bogus????

audiculous on January 13, 2011 at 8:33 PM

WOW! They can’t even wait until there’s an actual debate before calling it for Obama.

MrX on January 13, 2011 at 8:33 PM

bluemarlin on January 13, 2011 at 8:30 PM

here is the interview if you want to see it. I am not a big huck supporter but when someone does the right thing I think it deserves to be acknowledge. Huck just showed me he would make a better POTUS than Gov christie from this one simple interview.

http://ilikemikehuckabee2012.blogspot.com/2011/01/huckabee-talks-with-cnn-about-arizona.html

unseen on January 13, 2011 at 8:33 PM

I find it interesting that people that were not being blamed for the murder of a little child is telling Palin how she should of reacted.

KBird on January 13, 2011 at 8:34 PM

Yes. It’s called being Presidential. If she wants to lead Americans–*all* Americans, not just those Americans who frequent the fever swamps of the right blogosphere, she needs to avoid sounding like a whiny b*tch, which she failed to do in the last 25% of her speech yesterday. Engaging with a wider pool of journos than the FOX stable of soft ball throwers would help her chances too.

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 8:30 PM

Lets hit back twice as hard to punish our enemies.

the_nile on January 13, 2011 at 8:34 PM

audiculous on January 13, 2011 at 8:22 PM

How dense are you? The point isn’t whether Rep. Giffords was aware of the crosshairs, and thus concerned, but whether Loughner was aware and angered to action. Can’t you get that? It’s been demonstrated from here to eternity that Loughner was not aware of such a map. But even if he were, you still have to show that it influenced his behavior. And even after that you have to be able to convince others that it has broader implications for the political landscape, and that’s something not even Obama agrees with you on. So peddle your logical fallacy someplace else. Or is it simply too late for you? Is your hatred for the Right and Palin simply a consequence of this?

Weight of Glory on January 13, 2011 at 8:34 PM

If Palin posted her video earlier, she would’ve been criticized as insensitive. If she waited until after the Tucson “memorial,” her statement would’ve been viewed as a response to Obama’s speech. She can’t win. At some point, there will be a backlash, which will benefit her.

Terrie on January 13, 2011 at 8:35 PM

audiculous on January 13, 2011 at 8:22 PM

I notice two things about your cite of Gifford’s words.

1. No link.

2. You, or whatever Leftist website you got it from, seem to have edited her words, as indicated by the “…” in a couple of places:

“I think it’s important for all leaders, not just leaders of the Republican Party or the Democratic Party … community leaders, figures in our community to say, ‘Look, we can’t stand for this.’ I mean, this is a situation where people really need to realize that the rhetoric, and firing people up, and even things … For example, we’re on Sarah Palin’s targeted list, but the thing is, the way she has it depicted has the crosshairs of a gunsight over our district. And when people do that, they’ve gotta realize there’s consequences to that action.”

Care to enlighten us on these discrepancies?

Del Dolemonte on January 13, 2011 at 8:35 PM

audiculous on January 13, 2011 at 8:22 PM

How dense are you? The point isn’t whether Rep. Giffords was aware of the crosshairs, and thus concerned, but whether Loughner was aware and angered to action. Can’t you get that? It’s been demonstrated from here to eternity that Loughner was not aware of such a map. But even if he were, you still have to show that it influenced his behavior. And even after that you have to be able to convince others that it has broader implications for the political landscape, and that’s something not even Obama agrees with you on. So peddle your logical fallacy someplace else. Or is it simply too late for you?

Weight of Glory on January 13, 2011 at 8:35 PM

Obama doesn’t deserve that Nobel Peace Prize.
He does deserve two Greek columns.

Electrongod on January 13, 2011 at 8:35 PM

What?!!!? That quotation that I posted is bogus????

audiculous on January 13, 2011 at 8:33 PM

See my 8:35 PM post. Can you respond?

Del Dolemonte on January 13, 2011 at 8:36 PM

Dude! You’re not a Palin fan?!? Whazzup :)

RocketmanBob on January 13, 2011 at 8:36 PM

The PR war was already won. She didn’t need to make a video. And to put it out on the day of this big memorial was just tactically stupid.

ninjapirate on January 13, 2011 at 8:10 PM

Shes a private citizen defending herself against the death threats on herself her family and her friends and the outrageous unbelievable claims by many in the MSM that she somehow used mental voodoo to coerce some crazed leftwing lunatic into attempting to assassinate a congresswoman. Obama on the other hand, is campaigning again with the entire MSM volunteering to help him get re-elected.

Define stupid as you understand it.

canditaylor68 on January 13, 2011 at 8:36 PM

Why the Left must insist that Obama’s speech was better than Palin’s:

1)After all he is the President and she is not. He should be QUALIFIED to give a better speech than someone who is now a private citizen

2)Because Palin’s 7-8 minute speech was so good that it would steal Obama’s thunder if the MSM didn’t act to put a spoke in her wheel

3)To be able to continue the narrative that there is a cause and effect between the take back the 20 map and the Giffords’ shooting

4)To convince GOP primary voters that Palin is unelectable

5)To give the GOP pundits ammunition to use against her in the GOP primary campaign that she is polarizing

6)To boost Obama’s poll numbers and not allow Palin’s growing popularity bring them down

7)Obama cannot be seen as equal to Palin; the primary narrative of the Obama’s team is to elevate him as the Messiah and treat Palin as a “commoner”

8)Along with #7, Obama does not want to invite comparisons to Palin; people may begin to see he doesn’t measure up very well if he isn’t reading a teleprompter

9)Obama is a Narcissist and can’t tolerate that someone else in a figurative sense is sharing the same stage as him

10)It could be a start of a growing popularity for Palin and it could snowball in 2011 and 2012. It’s better to nip her in the bud.

technopeasant on January 13, 2011 at 8:37 PM

So that’s why Fox is cowering.

the_nile on January 13, 2011 at 8:32 PM

As plain as the nose on your face. The look on BOR’s face was priceless.

Knucklehead on January 13, 2011 at 8:37 PM

The strawmen!! They’re everywhere!!!

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 8:37 PM

Oooops. Sorry for the double post. I thought it wouldn’t make it through moderation due to linking up to the WSJ piece (as often is the case for CNBC stuff). But looks like it went through. My bad.

Weight of Glory on January 13, 2011 at 8:37 PM

Who accused her of murder? No one I heard.

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 8:33 PM

You must have been asleep. ABC and another network blamed Palin specifically for having blood on her hands right away. The entire Left repeated the accusation. It’s still being repeated today.

MrX on January 13, 2011 at 8:37 PM

ABC and another network blamed Palin specifically for having blood on her hands right away.

I was mourning a loved one, actually. Link?

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 8:38 PM

Engaging with a wider pool of journos than the FOX stable of soft ball throwers would help her chances too.

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 8:30 PM

She tried that with Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric.

F-, as usual.

Del Dolemonte on January 13, 2011 at 8:38 PM

the northeast looks at gov Palin the same as the South looked at Pres Lincoln.

unseen on January 13, 2011 at 8:38 PM

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 8:37 PM

Trollcrap your everywhere

djohn669 on January 13, 2011 at 8:39 PM

I am not a big huck supporter but when someone does the right thing I think it deserves to be acknowledge.

unseen on January 13, 2011 at 8:33 PM

I agree 100% and thanks for the link.

bluemarlin on January 13, 2011 at 8:39 PM

She tried that with Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric.

F-, as usual.

So if she’s elected President she’ll only ever appear on FOX News?

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 8:39 PM

The strawmen!! They’re everywhere!!!

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 8:37 PM

Well , just stop making em. And put down that gun.

the_nile on January 13, 2011 at 8:39 PM

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 8:30 PM

Tell that to Obama when he is PMSing over being held “hostage” by the mean ol nasty REpublicans… and that nasty ol FOX news just ruined his day…

canditaylor68 on January 13, 2011 at 8:39 PM

No Sh*t Sherlock!

unmistakably atmosphere of political campaigning
************************************************

In Arizona, Obama plays healer-in-chief

Despite a stirring memorial address by President Obama on Wednesday that abjured politics and called for “talking with each in a way that heals, not a way that wounds”

there was an unmistakably atmosphere of political campaigning

as Democrats and Republicans, liberals and conservatives, fired verbal volleys over the bloody episode with an eye on 2012.
———–

(in which he decried the “politics and point-scoring and pettiness that drifts away with the next news cycle,” even as party foot soldiers battled it out on other frequencies.)

“Rather than pointing fingers or assigning blame, let us use this occasion to expand our moral imaginations, to sharpen our instincts for empathy, and remind ourselves of all the ways our hopes and dreams are bound together,” Obama pleaded.

The remarks came hours after former Alaska governor and conservative leading light Sarah Palin had inflamed the political space with a Facebook video that accused critics who blamed her political rhetoric for the carnage of “blood libel.”

the point Palin was trying to make (rejecting charges that she was in any way responsible for the episode) and ignited the airwaves and the internet

“The presidential-quality stagecraft was there: an American flag over the left shoulder and another over her heart. So was the rhetorical polish, with its invocations of the Founding Fathers and the Constitution, God and Ronald Reagan,” one analyst noted.

But Democrats were no less adept at making political capital out of the incident, even as the White House is expected to announce as soon as this month the creation of Obama’s re-election campaign.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/In-Arizona-Obama-plays-healer-in-chief/articleshow/7280998.cms
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So,it was about Politics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Read more: In Arizona, Obama plays healer-in-chief – The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/In-Arizona-Obama-plays-healer-in-chief/articleshow/7280998.cms#ixzz1Ay8Pr8rb

canopfor on January 13, 2011 at 8:39 PM

When you have to argue that the president is more presidential than an unelected woman you deem an accomplice to mass murder, your president just might have a problem with his presidential cred.

Rational Thought on January 13, 2011 at 8:27 PM

Perfect. ++++

yogi41 on January 13, 2011 at 8:40 PM

I was mourning a loved one, actually. Link?

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 8:38 PM

SURE!

Inanemergencydial on January 13, 2011 at 8:40 PM

I was mourning a loved one, actually. Link?

Grow Fins on January 13, 2011 at 8:38 PM

The ignorant defense?

the_nile on January 13, 2011 at 8:41 PM

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