Poll: 57% of Americans don’t buy media spin on Tucson massacre

posted at 9:30 am on January 11, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

CBS polled almost 700 adults in the wake of the mass murder in Tucson committed by Jared Lee Loughner to determine whether the media spin that the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and the murders of six others was a political act had resonated with the public.  Perhaps surprisingly, the spin machine seems to have failed.  A majority of 57% say that politics had nothing to do with the shooting, and even a plurality of 49% of Democrats agree (via Dan Spencer):

Nearly six in 10 Americans say the country’s heated political rhetoric is not to blame for the Tucson shooting rampage that left six dead and critically wounded U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, according to a CBS News poll.

In the wake of the shooting, much focus has been put on the harsh tone of politics in Washington and around the country, particularly after a contentious midterm election. Rhetoric and imagery from both Republicans and Democrats have included gun-related metaphors, but the majority of the country isn’t connecting the shooting to politics.

It seems that the public has been able to separate the spin from the actual facts, which show that Loughner was a loon acting out of insanity and a personal grudge against Giffords, one completely of his own making.  The publicity-hound sheriff who’s supposed to be leading the investigation may want to get around to, you know, looking at the evidence, as the feds apparently have done:

There’s mounting evidence that the attack on Rep. Gabrielle Giffords wasn’t a political act but a plan by a disturbed high school dropout who had few friends and no clear agenda. …

Instead, Loughner may have had some self-generated dislike of Giffords that stemmed from when he first spoke to her at an event in 2007.

Court filings indicate the FBI seized papers from his home Saturday that talked of planning an assassination of Giffords and also included a letter she sent him four years ago thanking him for attending the event.

One Loughner friend, Bryce Tierney, told Mother Jones magazine that Loughner had harbored a grudge against Giffords for more than a year, and that he considered her a “fake.”

Getting back to the poll, it seems as though the media spin of the first 48 hours failed to even convince the predisposed.  Only 42% of Democrats in the survey believed that the shootings were a political act, and independents broke out at about the same ratio as the overall sample, 56/33.  That is very good news for America, and bad news for those in the media and in Congress who hoped to leverage the shooting to pass gun-control and speech-control legislation and bully grassroots conservatives into silence.


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The death of “Band of Brothers” leader Dick Winters last week was caused by Progressive hate-speech.

There can be no denying the connection between the overheated rhetoric of the Left and the death of a beloved American icon.

Oh, sure, the libtards will try to exculpate themselves from their role in Winters’ death by saying the man – whose World War II exploits served as the basis of an acclaimed book and HBO mini-series – was 93 and suffering end-stage Parkinson’s disease, that his death was from natural causes and not from the Left’s extremist, beyond-the-pale, relentless assaults on life, liberty and the pursuit of even more life.

But that will do them no good. The linkage between Winters’ death and their senseless advocacy of abortion, assisted suicide, electric cars, anthropomorphic global warming, arugula, and TSA enhanced pat-downs is indisputable.

So I will say it again. The Progressive Left in this country has created a climate of death that directly led to the demise of Dick Winters.

FlameWarrior on January 11, 2011 at 9:32 AM

`Common Sense` is making its Return!!!!!!!!!!!!

Finally!

canopfor on January 11, 2011 at 9:32 AM

And that’s a CBS poll. Imagine what a real poll would say.

Doughboy on January 11, 2011 at 9:33 AM

It seems that the public has been able to separate the spin from the actual facts

Paul Krugman et al…...hardest hit.

ted c on January 11, 2011 at 9:33 AM

That is very good news for America, and bad news for those in the media and in Congress who hoped to leverage the shooting to pass gun-control and speech-control legislation and bully grassroots conservatives into silence.

I wouldn’t go that far, just yet. How many times was the Health Care bill …uh…uh…not going to pass.

Skandia Recluse on January 11, 2011 at 9:34 AM

There’s a backlash coming.

the_nile on January 11, 2011 at 9:34 AM

I weep for the other 43%, who no doubt mistake their cognitive dissonance for intellectual brilliance.

RedRedRice on January 11, 2011 at 9:35 AM

Why does a part of me believe that poll results like this are used to tweak the BS machine so that, the next time Crisis presents itself, they are good and ready to roll out the new and improved Spin-O-Meter to feed a tastier pile of BS to the masses.

ted c on January 11, 2011 at 9:35 AM

No doubt Obama’s speech writer is frantically retooling the message for the teleprompter.

Republican Yogi on January 11, 2011 at 9:35 AM

I wouldn’t go that far, just yet. How many times was the Health Care bill …uh…uh…not going to pass.

Skandia Recluse on January 11, 2011 at 9:34 AM

But they throw themselves out with it’s passing.

the_nile on January 11, 2011 at 9:35 AM

That is very good news for America, and bad news for those in the media and in Congress who hoped to leverage the shooting to pass gun-control and speech-control legislation and bully grassroots conservatives into silence.

Since when has overwhelming public opposition to something stopped Democrats in Congress? They know what’s best for us.

aero on January 11, 2011 at 9:36 AM

That’s good news.

gophergirl on January 11, 2011 at 9:37 AM

There’s a backlash coming.

the_nile on January 11, 2011 at 9:34 AM

the_nile:Ya,P*ssed Off ZombieObamaVoterBot BackLash
Insurrection!!

The Liberal Socialists/Vrs./Utopian Progressives!!

canopfor on January 11, 2011 at 9:37 AM

Since when has overwhelming public opposition to something stopped Democrats in Congress? They know what’s best for us.

aero on January 11, 2011 at 9:36 AM

Gitmo , Cap and trade.

the_nile on January 11, 2011 at 9:37 AM

What do the pagan truther loners think about it?

RBMN on January 11, 2011 at 9:38 AM

Who are these 32% that believe it did have something to do with it?? How can anyone in their right mind believe it did? 32% of 300 million people is about 100 million. We have 100 million idiots walking around in our country.

Uggh!

dforston on January 11, 2011 at 9:38 AM

Bill Clinton got away with much back when the internet was in its infancy. So did 60 minutes. ;-)

rhombus on January 11, 2011 at 9:39 AM

Why does a part of me believe that poll results like this are used to tweak the BS machine so that, the next time Crisis presents itself, they are good and ready to roll out the new and improved Spin-O-Meter to feed a tastier pile of BS to the masses.

ted c on January 11, 2011 at 9:35 AM

ted c:Your going to get a promotion,your thinking ahead,
and I do like your scenarios!:)

canopfor on January 11, 2011 at 9:39 AM

What do the pagan truther loners think about it?

RBMN on January 11, 2011 at 9:38 AM

RBMN:The Lizard People Voters!?

canopfor on January 11, 2011 at 9:40 AM

Common Sense` is making its Return!!!!!!!!!!!!

Finally!

canopfor on January 11, 2011 at 9:32 AM

Really? Only 57% are aware that the media’s slant is total garbage? And that’s somehow a good thing?

Roughly 40% of the U.S. population are brain-dead zombies.

Gregor on January 11, 2011 at 9:41 AM

canopfor on January 11, 2011 at 9:32 AM
==============================
Really? Only 57% are aware that the media’s slant is total garbage? And that’s somehow a good thing?

Roughly 40% of the U.S. population are brain-dead zombies.

Gregor on January 11, 2011 at 9:41 AM

Gregor:Okay,I’ll restate,Common Sense is Returning,

Cautiously Optimistic!!

canopfor on January 11, 2011 at 9:44 AM

Now we know that 53% of Americans are racist.

Bishop on January 11, 2011 at 9:44 AM

CBS Poll. Which means it’s more like 80%.

The Mega Independent on January 11, 2011 at 9:45 AM

Obviously the overheated political rhetoric of 2010 (which is solely the fault of conservatives like Palin and Beck) caused this psycho nutcase to hatch a plan to kill Giffords back in 2007.

The causal connection is so clear. It’s just a shame more people can’t connect the dots. All it requires is a lack of logic and a belief in time travel.

AZCoyote on January 11, 2011 at 9:45 AM

Roughly 40% of the U.S. population are brain-dead zombies.

Gregor on January 11, 2011 at 9:41 AM

Down from 52%…

the_nile on January 11, 2011 at 9:46 AM

If the insane left and media hadn’t tossed out wild conjecture for 48 hours it would probably be about 5% buying their crap.

JammieWearingFool on January 11, 2011 at 9:46 AM

Of course 42% of Democrats believe the media spin. They have people writing hysterical garbage like this on the Rasmussen Reports site.

By the way, the Democrats have their own bullseye map but I don’t see anyone pointing fingers at them.

ExcessivelyDiverted on January 11, 2011 at 9:46 AM

That is very good news for America

Is it really “good news” that 40% of Americans would rather blame their political opponents than join together with them to grieve as one for this terrible loss?

I really don’t feel to good about this.

Angry? Yes
Disappointment? Yes
Disgusted? Yes

Rod on January 11, 2011 at 9:47 AM

The formula is hopefully worn out. The one where:

a. A tragic event has occurred
b. That regardless of supporting data
c. Proves our political opponents to be devoid of character, morals, brains, and good intent
d. While subsequently validating our character, brains, self righteousness and perfect intent.
e. Thus justifying whatever kneejerk solutions we propose to advance our political agenda.
f. And continuing the ongoing tragedy of exploiting the human suffering of others to hopefully advance our own selfish agenda
g. While ignoring the true causes and consequences of the original tragic event.

moc23 on January 11, 2011 at 9:49 AM

There’s a backlash coming.

the_nile on January 11, 2011 at 9:34 AM

There is. I assume the polling was done before the mugshot was released too. There’s no way for the media to spin that photo. They can call him “anti-government” without any further explanation of context all day long, but take a look at that photo, and anyone will conclude he’s just plain insane.

forest on January 11, 2011 at 9:49 AM

You guys are still falling for this? It’s a CBS poll. It is part. of. the. spin.

The Mega Independent on January 11, 2011 at 9:51 AM

Glenn Reynolds has a vast trove of material the last couple of days that will give the sane folks a lot of talking points/facts to use when the lefties spout off. Silence is what the left wants and are not getting our compliance.
“There are more instances of the abridgment of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpation.”
James Madison’s warning

Col.John Wm. Reed on January 11, 2011 at 9:53 AM

One of the heartening things about the internet is the ability to fight the lies of the left, or at least blunt it. Of course it helps that the media and the left are so tone deaf on tragedies like this.
Wait until Obama comes to Tucson with his gas can labelled ” Heated Rhetoric” standing next to Sheriff Dipstick.
Good luck Barry- you’re playing with fire.

jjshaka on January 11, 2011 at 9:53 AM

Hopeful news on the horizon… Most left leaning people I know have also grown sick and tired of the constant blame game. One Liberal client of mine told me yesterday that she’s very embarrassed by the way the media has tried to use this tragedy for political gain. In the same breath, she said Fox News was equally guilty; she had to get that in….

Keemo on January 11, 2011 at 9:54 AM

Most Americans still sane.

What’s the matter with the rest of you/them?

Schadenfreude on January 11, 2011 at 9:54 AM

There’s mounting evidence that the attack on Rep. Gabrielle Giffords wasn’t a political act but a plan by a disturbed high school dropout who had few friends and no clear agenda. …

I swear we’re surrounded by idiots. How is there a single person alive who believes this was NOT a political act? This is almost as absurd as listening to those who routinely claim that 26 year-old Muslim men shouting Allah akbar as they use their car to drive over Jewish children are not terrorists, but simply mentally ill, depressed and confused individuals.

Loughner seemingly spent every waking moment ranting on polical issues and anti-government conspiracies. There’s absolutely no doubt that his acts were politically motivated.

While the media’s attempt to portray the moron as a conservative is a joke, it’s even more insane to pretend his motives had nothing to do with politics.

Gregor on January 11, 2011 at 9:55 AM

On the Yahoo story, which basically asks wether Sarah Palin is to blame, the comments defending Sarah Palin have far more likes then dislikes. The opposite happens with those comments accusing SP, the Tea party, etc. for the shootings.

Of course the comments on simular stories on CNN’s website read like that of the Daily Kos or HuffPo.

DethMetalCookieMonst on January 11, 2011 at 9:55 AM

It was amazing watching CNN last night, as opposed to Saturday afternoon immediately following the shootings. John King was absolutely going out of his way to decribe Loughner as a disturbed loner who invented a grudge against Rep. Gifford. I think the blowback has hit all of the MSM very hard.

rockmom on January 11, 2011 at 9:56 AM

Bill Clinton got away with much back when the internet was in its infancy. So did 60 minutes. ;-)

rhombus on January 11, 2011 at 9:39 AM

While the MSM comparisons were grossly unfair with OKC – at least there was *something* to go off of for the media. McVeigh was pissed about government corruption and took it to a criminally violent end.

Loughner is just plain insane. He didn’t attack Gifford because her vote on Obamacare, or the Tea Party, or Sarah Palin’s map.

18-1 on January 11, 2011 at 9:56 AM

It’s still CBS …

tarpon on January 11, 2011 at 9:56 AM

2012 will be more fun than can be imagined, but not for the lefties, nor for the media (I know, I repeated myself, sorry).

The silent majority will punish this more than they did in 2010. This will not be forgotten.

Schadenfreude on January 11, 2011 at 9:57 AM

Oh wow, that’s got to be a real bummer for you Leftist-Oppressives, here you had all kind of dreams of using a serious crisis to further destroy the people’s right to self-defense and maybe even curb our 1st amendment rights.

And it’s not working…. Bummer dude.

Colbyjack on January 11, 2011 at 9:57 AM

We should counterattack hard now. Let’s target the left by discussing how this incident shows that the MSM will tell any lie and conduct any witch hunt to discredit Sarah Palin and the Tea Party.

thuja on January 11, 2011 at 9:57 AM

There’s a backlash coming.

the_nile on January 11, 2011 at 9:34 AM

A new question that must be asked of politician running for office:

“Did you try to blame conservatives for the Tuscon tragedy?”

Rod on January 11, 2011 at 9:57 AM

The socialist media is really struggling with the fact that they can no longer control the message with lies and deceit. These disgusting low life creatures are foaming at the mouths in their effort to control and manage as they did for so many decades.

May they all rot in hell…

Keemo on January 11, 2011 at 9:58 AM

Loughner seemingly spent every waking moment ranting on polical issues and anti-government conspiracies. There’s absolutely no doubt that his acts were politically motivated.

While the media’s attempt to portray the moron as a conservative is a joke, it’s even more insane to pretend his motives had nothing to do with politics.

Gregor on January 11, 2011 at 9:55 AM

Come on. The guy had a paranoid fantasy that “the government” was using grammar to control people’s minds. He asked Giffords about his crazy theory in 2007 and he thought her answer was unresponsive. He made threats against other local officials, and had to be thrown out of his college because he was so disruptive and scared his classmates and teacher. This is not a “political motive,” it is insanity.

rockmom on January 11, 2011 at 9:59 AM

It’s not good enough that the public disagrees with them, it’s more important for the public to punish them for trying it in the first place. Otherwise there’s no downside to trying this again and again.

PackerBronco on January 11, 2011 at 10:00 AM

There’s mounting evidence that the attack on Rep. Gabrielle Giffords wasn’t a political act but a plan by a disturbed high school dropout who had few friends and no clear agenda. …

Oy Reel rie?

Jared Loughner, Alleged Shooter in Gabrielle Giffords Attack, Described by Classmate as “Left-Wing Pothead”

# @lakarune I haven’t seen him since ’07. Then, he was left wing. 25 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to lakarune

Fake8 on January 11, 2011 at 10:01 AM

Has the WH staffer in charge of wetting his finger seen this poll. Might want to rethink the trip to AZ.

Kissmygrits on January 11, 2011 at 10:01 AM

One Liberal client of mine told me yesterday that she’s very embarrassed by the way the media has tried to use this tragedy for political gain.

Keemo on January 11, 2011 at 9:54 AM

I would be embarrassed too if I allowed the LSM in my house to teach me the ways of life. A trusted friend lied to me. Oh, well. Back to watching Tingles.

Electrongod on January 11, 2011 at 10:02 AM

Gregor on January 11, 2011 at 9:55 AM

The dude believed grammar was being used to control people.

He fixated on Giffords but it could have been anyone, she was just unlucky enough to become his focus.

There may be a political tie-in for the attack but let’s face it, Loughner is bat-a$$ crazy and could just as easily attacked the UPS guy who showed up at the door.

Bishop on January 11, 2011 at 10:02 AM

When Dupnik tried to deflect from his FAILURE to keep residents of PIMA county safe even after multiple complaints about Laughner…he lit the radio people’s fuse down here in Texas if you turn on the Radio they are tearing Dupnik a new one….how many people are driving in their cars listening to the radio people point the finger right back at the FAILURE trying to blame them for his own FAILURE.

That’s all this is about Dupnik is covering his a$$. Has anyone noticed he started this the first day, the day of the shootings? Because across this country talk radio is reporting on Dupnik’s unprofessional behavior when he was supposed to be “Informing the public about the investigation. He came out blaming talk radio. He wasn’t reporting on the investigation – it’s the last thing he wants to do because it’s going to show he dropped the ball.

The FBI will report on Dupnik’s performance, leading up to the shooting in regard to the shooter. It’s not going to be flattering. What will Olby say then on MSNBC? Emily Latilia: oh never mind. Too late we all watched them behaving scummy at the expense of the dead, wounded and suffering – starting day one. That means they were just waiting for something terrible to happen to exploit it. Yucky, Scummy, Skeevy…

The Left in this country don’t have a bottom, no behavior too low for them to stoop to.

Dr Evil on January 11, 2011 at 10:02 AM

Nearly six in 10 Americans say the country’s heated political rhetoric is not to blame for the Tucson shooting rampage that left six dead and critically wounded U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, according to a CBS News poll.

That won’t stop them from continuing this rhetoric. As we’ve learned with the Healthcare debate, we just don’t understand what Barry and his ilk were trying to sell us. They just need to make more speeches and talk about it more and more until we come around to their way of thinking.

mizflame98 on January 11, 2011 at 10:03 AM

Where’s cornholed bubba to scream in bolded caps?

darwin on January 11, 2011 at 10:03 AM

Not that encouraging. 43% who can’t tell media complicity in a frame job is too many and no comfort. The unaffected middle America, who don’t want to be to quick to rush to judgment on whether the right has a valid point that the left rushed to judgment–and started prosecution.

Disappointing for a social compact guy like me.

Axeman on January 11, 2011 at 10:03 AM

This won’t stop the media. This will just make them ratchet it up more. For the next couple years we will hear about “Some have said…” or “Many have suggested…” that any opposing views from the right incites violence and must be silenced.

0bama may fumble through his next speech or two without partisan attacks in relation to this, but you know he will be itching to throw it into his SOTU and every political confrontation.

Is there anything he hasn’t called his opposition yet?

I’ve been called racist, homophobic, bigoted, anti-American… Why not an accessory to mass murder?

If inflamed rhetoric leads to violence, I cannot imagine anything more inflamatory than labeling the majority of the country guilty of murder.

cntrlfrk on January 11, 2011 at 10:04 AM

FlameWarrior on January 11, 2011 at 9:32 AM

You forgot global warming, haliburton and George bush

BruceB on January 11, 2011 at 10:05 AM

That we are at a moment in time when 43% of Americans can be so easily persuaded by propaganda should give us all pause.

Totalitarian governments don’t need a majority to force their will. They already have the power if they choose to use it. Beyond that, they only need the will of government itself to wield that power, and the strong backing of a large enough segment of the population to give them cover and justification for whatever they intend to impose.

43% is too damned high for how egregious and obviously false this smear campaign is.

IronDioPriest on January 11, 2011 at 10:06 AM

How’s that backlash feelin?

Richly deserved…..

cmsinaz on January 11, 2011 at 10:06 AM

Anyone who sees that psychos mug shot knows whats up. They may also agree that “Washington needs to tone down the rhetoric! zomg!” but they know it’s not causal. Unless they’re retards, hi2u Krugman/Olbermann etc.

Dash on January 11, 2011 at 10:08 AM

Frankly, right now the bulk of the heated rhetoric is coming from the beyond foolish comments of that sheriff they have out there.

I’m surprised that Governor Brewer hasn’t called him direct to tell him to cool it.

pilamaye on January 11, 2011 at 10:08 AM

They don’t believe it because liberals are the violent ones

Progressive Hate Videos

Nearly Nobody on January 11, 2011 at 10:08 AM

That was 57% before most had seen Jared Lee Loughner’s mug shot. The next poll may show 90%.

Yoop on January 11, 2011 at 10:09 AM

Sarah Palin is still part of the context, even though she had nothing to do with it- Grows Fins

artist on January 11, 2011 at 10:09 AM

Expect the next crisis to be of the manufactured variety. The media will be surprisingly ahead of the story, might even be long on a few facts, and it will be scored as a win for the president, no matter what.

That’s how they work, they do backwards planning. They start with the end in mind.
1. This crisis helps the progressive agenda because opposition to the progresive agenda is illegitimate, immoral and invalid.
2. Connect the crisis to the opponents of the progressive agenda
3. Identify victims and antagonists in the current crisis, and, it is key if the victim is either a progressive, or supports a progressive agenda and the antagonist can be shown to be the opponent of those things.
4. Identify a crisis

Thus, the narrative is already written and the steps can be plotted. 4 happened on saturday and 3-2 had to occur in the short news cycle following that. By the time that 2 has occurred, the smoke has settled and the wake of the story can settle in on #1 as other stories that have simultaneously occurred begin to crowd into the attention span of the masses.

We’ve got these guys pegged, folks. Deconstruct their methods, know them, counter them, beat them.

ted c on January 11, 2011 at 10:09 AM

So what do we call these new Truthers/Birthers?

They DO need a name.

Sorry, Deniers is already taken.

/

artist on January 11, 2011 at 10:11 AM

It’s clear that all these people only watch Fox News!

/libtard

search4truth on January 11, 2011 at 10:13 AM

FlameWarrior on January 11, 2011 at 9:32 AM

The sentiment of that is right on, but personally I wouldn’t use Major Winters as part of a joke; he was a great man who deserves nothing but honor.

VanPalin on January 11, 2011 at 10:13 AM

Although 32% is a number higher than I’d like to see, pause for just a moment and reflect on how much the landscape has changed. The MSM got this buffoon elected with this same kind of bias, dishonesty, etc., just two years ago. Yet today, if Obama trots out this “extremist rhetoric” BS when he speaks in Arizona today, he’ll be toast! They got him elected with their BS, but who knew it was their swan song? There is a beautiful irony in knowing that the sh!t-sandwich they sold the country in the fall of 2008 means that they’ll likely never sell us anything ever again.

Rational Thought on January 11, 2011 at 10:14 AM

From everything I’ve read so far, he seems to me to be a lost soul with a tortured mind, not able to grasp reality and searching for things that just weren’t there. No one was validating any of his ideas or theories so he lashed out at one who stood out in particular for not answering a question he thought to be a legitimate one…Ms. Giffords. From there on out it appears he started plotting his revenge. Now the media is just now starting to report more in depth about who he was, which they should have waited to do in the first place. But they’re like lemmings, you know, one outlet goes with the Palin theory, or the Limbaugh theory, or lash out at O’Reilly…anyone who fits the agenda…and the rest blindly follow. This isn’t journalism, it’s just plain ignorance. That said, there really does need to be some toning down of the rhetoric from both parties, and putting cross hairs on anything nowadays is just plain stupid, no matter who does it.

scalleywag on January 11, 2011 at 10:14 AM

They have people writing hysterical garbage like this on the Rasmussen Reports site.

ExcessivelyDiverted on January 11, 2011 at 9:46 AM

Thanks for the link. I’m glad I read it.
I cannot believe how insane these people are.
They are just as insane as Loughner.

Badger40 on January 11, 2011 at 10:15 AM

Most folks can find the killer’s dox themselves, and see that he was obviously mentally disturbed. Unfortunately, by the time folks figure out a person is psychotic, that person is likely a legal adult, and it is almost impossible to get a good treatment outcome.

Sekhmet on January 11, 2011 at 10:16 AM

You know, I do truly enjoy how these people are tripling down on stupid.
If it wasn’t so alarming, I’d be laughing at this crap a hell of a lot more.

Badger40 on January 11, 2011 at 10:16 AM

Gee, what a shame. The lefties have come out and accused Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and (by extension) whole vast swaths of people of being accessories to mass murder — oh, excuse me, “contributing to an environment that fosters violence.” The masks have come almost all the way off, and people don’t like what they’re seeing. So they’re not calling for Sarah Palin’s head as the media were hoping; no, people instead are starting to disregard the media. They don’t believe that political rhetoric drove this poor sweet lunatic over the edge. They’re not buying it.

Finally, a ray of sunshine. :)

Aitch748 on January 11, 2011 at 10:18 AM

Although 32% is a number higher than I’d like to see, pause for just a moment and reflect on how much the landscape has changed.

…..

Part of that 32% could be people who think it’s b/c of leftwing influence.

artist on January 11, 2011 at 10:19 AM

and putting cross hairs on anything nowadays is just plain stupid, no matter who does it.

So the 99.9999999999% majority are now beholden to the single jackwagon who goes crazy one day; it wasn’t the crosshairs that made this guy flip.

Bishop on January 11, 2011 at 10:19 AM

Perhaps surprisingly, the spin machine seems to have failed.

Dude, that ONLY 57% “aren’t buying it” is insanely depressing. I’m consistently amazed that so many of my fellow citizens are so ragingly stupid.

Midas on January 11, 2011 at 10:21 AM

As liberals would say, “It’s still early in the spin cycle.”

lorien1973 on January 11, 2011 at 10:21 AM

So the 99.9999999999% majority are now beholden to the single jackwagon who goes crazy one day; it wasn’t the crosshairs that made this guy flip.

Bishop on January 11, 2011 at 10:19 AM

+10
I love the word jackwagon.

Badger40 on January 11, 2011 at 10:22 AM

Always add 15 – 20 % to the Conservative side in a CBS Poll.
All these political opportunists knew was that this was their opportunity to get back at Palin and the rest of the resurgent Conservative movement, including Tea Party members, for throwing their fellow professional politicians out of office.

As the poll shows, the good news is, it’s backfiring on them.

kingsjester on January 11, 2011 at 10:25 AM

Just goes to show how valuable Rahm Emanual was to the office of Crisis Manufacture and Exploitation. It takes a lot of skill to get the media and everyone else on the same page when ya make’n up crap. But buck up lil campers cause 43% of your countrymen bought into it hook , line and sinker. There are plenty of lil Rahm’s in train’n and they just learnt themselves some valuable lessons.

roflmao

donabernathy on January 11, 2011 at 10:25 AM

It seems that the public has been able to separate the spin from the actual facts, which show that Loughner was a loon acting out of insanity and a personal grudge against Giffords, one completely of his own making.

O’Reilly’s right about one crucial point last night; the left has lost its momentum and their drive to advance their liberal agenda, which a vast majority of Americans rejected at the polls in November. The liberal media have found little substantial ground to make their baseless arguments favoring a more central government to control the masses. Even Independents found this agenda intrusive as they also rejected the power-grab by Washington, (using the crisis of devastating economy to advance their quest for a larger and controlling government), leaving the media and their pundits with no where to turn. The result is this reprehensible tactic of attacking their perceived enemies, (the conservative right), using another American tragedy. Defenseless, and without shame or dignity, even a cornered dog will lash out when they feel trapped. The results of November has put these people in the corner of obscurity and the shrinking ideology of liberalism, and they are finding no reasonable arguments to justify their obscurity other than to lash out like the rabid dog, spreading vicious lies while attempting to tie the conservative right with the plight of a deranged piece of human garbage. This vile attempt by the liberal media and their repulsive echo chamber in the left wing blogs is an attack on all Americans who have civilly rejected this liberal agenda by exorcising their rights to speak out against an intrusive government. By demonizing conservative thought, the liberals will have, in essence, delivered a stronger unity of grassroots Americans who see through this pathetic ploy. Only the left are buying into this, as the liberal media spoon-feeds them, “poisoning the debate with their own baseless insinuations”. The joke is on you, my liberal friends—and the joker is this media as they continue to cram this vitriolic garbage down your throats, (under the guise of journalism), complicit in their own path to obscurity. Neither Karl Rove or any other conservative pundit could have written a better script of liberals self-destructing in their own feckless and repulsive pathology. Pity.

Rovin on January 11, 2011 at 10:29 AM

Who are these 32% that believe it did have something to do with it?? How can anyone in their right mind believe it did? 32% of 300 million people is about 100 million. We have 100 million idiots walking around in our country.

Uggh!

dforston on January 11, 2011 at 9:38 AM

A lot more than that…just look at the White House contents.

royzer on January 11, 2011 at 10:29 AM

I suspect more of that 43 percent less believe that Palin and the Tea Party caused the shooting than they are leftists who want Palin and the Tea Party to have caused the shooting.

Sekhmet on January 11, 2011 at 10:30 AM

Gee, what a shame. The lefties have come out and accused Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and (by extension) whole vast swaths of people of being accessories to mass murder — oh, excuse me, “contributing to an environment that fosters violence.”

Finally, a ray of sunshine. :)

Aitch748 on January 11, 2011 at 10:18 AM

It is a shame – think about it, here they had a really serious crisis the Oppressive-Left could have used to take out the 1st AND 2nd amendments, Palin, Talk radio, the Tea Party Movement….

But the Left just couldn’t muster a coherent “Bad Guy” in this whole thing. {Here’s a clue – what about blaming the “Left Wing Pothead”, but I digress}

My guess is that they will want to put their Collective heads together and come up with some priorities in these situation – a Constitutional rights attack plan of sorts.

Colbyjack on January 11, 2011 at 10:30 AM

They’re not buying it.

Finally, a ray of sunshine. :)

Aitch748 on January 11, 2011 at 10:18 AM

Yea, but a lot of people haven’t been buying it for a number of years now, so all they’ve really done is discredit themselves further and make themselves look even more pathetic.

I’m actually ashamed of most of what our country passes far acceptable journalistic standards nowadays.

scalleywag on January 11, 2011 at 10:32 AM

The death of “Band of Brothers” leader Dick Winters last week was caused by Progressive hate-speech.

There can be no denying the connection between the overheated rhetoric of the Left and the death of a beloved American icon.

Oh, sure, the libtards will try to exculpate themselves from their role in Winters’ death by saying the man – whose World War II exploits served as the basis of an acclaimed book and HBO mini-series – was 93 and suffering end-stage Parkinson’s disease, that his death was from natural causes and not from the Left’s extremist, beyond-the-pale, relentless assaults on life, liberty and the pursuit of even more life.

But that will do them no good. The linkage between Winters’ death and their senseless advocacy of abortion, assisted suicide, electric cars, anthropomorphic global warming, arugula, and TSA enhanced pat-downs is indisputable.

So I will say it again. The Progressive Left in this country has created a climate of death that directly led to the demise of Dick Winters.

FlameWarrior on January 11, 2011 at 9:32 AM

DUDE!!! This SO encapsulates the drooling lefts exploitative agenda. It needed to be fully quoted in my most humble of opinions.

Bravo!

I am SO stealing this for use on another board if that’s ok with you. Yes, I will credit your work.

44Magnum on January 11, 2011 at 10:33 AM


And that’s a CBS poll. Imagine what a real poll would say.

Doughboy on January 11, 2011 at 9:33 AM

I was thinking the same thing….
Also that there should be a completey FAKE one soon saying the opposite.

golfmann on January 11, 2011 at 10:34 AM

It is nice to see evidence that the left liberal media is losing credibility. Actually, as frustrating as this has been, perhaps it will have been a net gain as in the end no one who wasn’t already predisposed to leftwing conspiracy theories will have bought into the media meme but the media will have burned off a good chunk of its remaining credibility anyway.

Sounds like a big win for most everyone involved!

dczombie on January 11, 2011 at 10:36 AM

As liberals would say, “It’s still early in the spin cycle.”

lorien1973 on January 11, 2011 at 10:21 AM

Not even a lonely Maytag repairman can repair this damaged ideology lorien. There’s no intelligence in the tool box.

I have noticed this morning that the liberal media is focusing more on this deranged soul, (and of course, the “gun issue”), while backing off on the vile rhetoric, calling this “a tone of political discourse”. This should make conservatives feel all warm inside.

Rovin on January 11, 2011 at 10:44 AM

As liberals would say, “It’s still early in the spin cycle.”

lorien1973 on January 11, 2011 at 10:21 AM

But that hurts them, they needed this seed to be planted and deep they started driving it home the day it happened. They saturated their coverage with it that means it’s not working. They are reaping a dismal results 57% don’t buy it. The longer this goes on in the news cycle the more it’s going to be dissected, and investigated. When we get REAL reports from the FBI it’s not going to be flattering for the Leftys that tried to pull this stunt, and that Sheriff will be their poster boy -it’s wonderful that Keith Olbermann is going to have him on tonight, and give him a warm tongue bath. If anyone is left watching MSNBC when official reports come out, they will have cemented their position at the bottom.

Dr Evil on January 11, 2011 at 10:45 AM

More and more I am seeing the troubling accusations from the Left that Tea Partiers, etc are “anti-government” and thus a danger. These are the same people, of course, who had no problem with “anti-government” sentiments when protesting war or an administration that they disagree with. The ones who grew up protesting Vietnam in the ugliest possible way and more recently embraced the most scurrilous anti-government lies with regards to Iraq and the Bush administration (including all the 9-11 Troothers).

We’re seeing a full scale mobilization of the “shut up he explained” strategy to support a huge expansion of government, well beyond any bounds set forth in its charter. It seems that now to object to unlimited government power (at least when such power is wielded by their side) is to be a dangerous “anti-government” kook who needs to be monitored for public safety. Some deranged madman commits the recent horrible crimes (with no apparent motivation beyond a dislike of government) and that’s all the excuse that is needed to point fingers and raise the specter of clamping down on all those who express a “dislike of government.”

The people are a threat to the government! This is just as our founders wisely planned it, yet somehow the people have become dangerous and the government must deploy its monopoly on legal force to defend itself from WE THE PEOPLE! Welcome to the newest normal.

MJBrutus on January 11, 2011 at 10:49 AM

So what percentage did believe it? That’s the only point the Left cares about. This is a long-term game for them. They just keep chipping away. They’ve been doing it for 50 years.

rrpjr on January 11, 2011 at 10:51 AM

I so hate qualifiers on polls. You know when someone says “only 42%,” he’s trying to push some narrative. 42% is a big and significant number. No “only” about it.

TouchingTophet on January 11, 2011 at 10:51 AM

As the poll shows, the good news is, it’s backfiring on them.

kingsjester on January 11, 2011 at 10:25 AM

They did not learn anything last November 2nd. Remedial Logic apparently is not an easy course for a liberal.

Yoop on January 11, 2011 at 10:51 AM

From The Office of Crisis Manufacture and Exploitation

Dear team,

We understand you are disappointing with the outcome of our latest venture.But rest assured that business is good and we are presently seeking new and exciting opportunities.

Let me remind you. Last year when we secured on long term viability via operation “make’em believe the best health care system on the face of the Earth is broke” and would like to congratulate you on a job well done. But also recognize, that was a tough act to follow and our ambition to control all American speech with this operation may have been ill advised. But don’t worry. There will be other events in which the Exploitation Department will shine.

I hope everyone was happy with their Holiday Bonuses and am looking forward to a eventful 2011.

Sincerely,

Your Boss,

The Man Behind The Curtain

donabernathy on January 11, 2011 at 10:55 AM

Hopefully, AwesomeSuperpresident will smarten up and refrain from giving us his “greater context” wisdom.

Greek Fire on January 11, 2011 at 10:56 AM

So what percentage did believe it? That’s the only point the Left cares about. This is a long-term game for them. They just keep chipping away. They’ve been doing it for 50 years.

rrpjr on January 11, 2011 at 10:51 AM

Alinsky

darwin-t on January 11, 2011 at 10:57 AM

I weep for the other 43%, who no doubt mistake their cognitive dissonance for intellectual brilliance.

RedRedRice on January 11, 2011 at 9:35 AM

They’ll never admit they were wrong about this. They’ll never admit being wrong about anything. When you tell them Socialism has failed everywhere it’s been tried, they simply put their fingers in their ears and pretend they don’t hear you.

Del Dolemonte on January 11, 2011 at 11:01 AM

Dr Evil on January 11, 2011 at 10:45 AM

I’m intrigued. Seems the sherriff, ( as if we didn’t already know) is deeply partisan. BOR said he’d invited the sherriff to be on last night, and Dumbnik declined. Now he’s going to be on Olbermann?

C’mon Pimo county. Is this man really the best choice for sherriff? What’s next? If he even suspects you’re a Republican, or Tea Partier, he’ll find a reason to arrest you? After taking a peek at Kos this morning…something I really don’t like to do….I would imagine they’d cheer him on if he did work that way. Man they are delusional there, and waaaaaaay stupid. They actually believe the msm, and politco are pushing for Republicans. :o

capejasmine on January 11, 2011 at 11:01 AM

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