Halperin: Hey, why did conservatives defend themselves from being smeared?

posted at 11:36 am on January 11, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Say, isn’t the phrase “war stations” a use of violent imagery?  I’m just sayin’ ….

“I think the media and the politicians have behaved pretty well so far”? The normally sensible Mark Halperin from Time runs off the rails in this segment from today’s Morning Joe, and that was hardly the worst of it. He blamed the “anger of the right-wing commentariat,” including George Will, for the controversy started when CNN and other media outlets began tying the shooting in Arizona to Sarah Palin and Tea Party activism.  Joe Scarborough points out that it was Palin and conservatives who got smeared, not the other way around, but Halperin says that conservatives should have just “turned the other cheek” and stopped defending themselves.

Mary Katharine Ham is aghast:

“I just want to single out one thing. I think the media and the politicians have behaved pretty well so far.I’m worried about the anger of the right-wing commentariat,” Halperin said. “Fox and George Will and other conservatives are in some cases justifiably upset at liberals, but they’re turning this back into the standard operating procedure of ‘all this is war and fodder for content’ rather than trying to bring the country together.”

“Wait a second,” Scarborough responded. “I think they would say that you have that backwards, that a shooting was turned into fodder to attack conservatives.”

Halperin: “And, I already made that criticism, as well. they’re right, but rather than seizing on it and turning the other cheek, they’re back at their war stations. that’s not going to help us.”

The conversation then pivoted from a discussion of the actual facts to yet another lecture on rhetoric, with Scarborough hoping conservatives see it as a “wake-up call” on rhetoric even though he had just established that there was no connection between rhetoric and the shooting.

You know what would help us?  The media actually doing its job rather than participating in the smear campaign.  What exactly did Halperin and his magazine do to report that conservatives were being smeared, as he acknowledges three days later?  If their Swampland blog is any indication, exactly zero.  The only pushback on the meme came from Joe Klein, who wanted to use the tragedy to talk about gun control and the mentally ill  rather than the “need to clean up the mess” in national political debate.

Why did conservatives feel the need to defend themselves?  Because of the extreme, heated, and ignorant rhetoric coming from many on the Left as they exploited the tragedy, and the silence and/or complicity of the media, including people like Mark Halperin.


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Just when I think halperin gets it, he disappoints me yet again

cmsinaz on January 11, 2011 at 11:39 AM

From Drew M. at Ace….

“Lie back and think of England”

aquaviva on January 11, 2011 at 11:40 AM

Gun control and the mentally ill…..and here we go again.

Skandia Recluse on January 11, 2011 at 11:40 AM

The days of Battered Conservative Syndrome are over.

FIGHT BACK, WHILE THERE IS STILL SOMETHING LEFT TO FIGHT FOR.

portlandon on January 11, 2011 at 11:42 AM

Hey, why did Obama insist he was born in Hawaii when those birthers said he wasn’t?

steebo77 on January 11, 2011 at 11:42 AM

Just makes me cringe when I hear such unreasonable “reasoning.” What does he think people should do? Just lay down and get kicked all the way to China? Hmmmm….

chai on January 11, 2011 at 11:43 AM

I love how it’s now apparently out of bounds to defend yourself vigorously from accusations of being an accomplice to mass murder due to your, um, non-involvement and lack of responsibility for a mass murder.

The NERVE of those wingnuts, not letting us roll them!

Good Lt on January 11, 2011 at 11:43 AM

Joe Mama said it best:
“Turn the other cheek” = “bend over”.

Extrafishy on January 11, 2011 at 11:44 AM

It sounds like the gop will help Halperin out with the tone down of Obamacare

cmsinaz on January 11, 2011 at 11:44 AM

Wow. What little credibility Halperin had, he just lost. Idiot!

Say the tables were turned. Would anyone expect any less from the left, if they were being unfairly demonized? I don’t think so!

capejasmine on January 11, 2011 at 11:44 AM

Just makes me cringe when I hear such unreasonable “reasoning.” What does he think people should do? Just lay down and get kicked all the way to China? Hmmmm….

chai on January 11, 2011 at 11:43 AM

Its the same mentality that allows the US to agree when Russia complains that our defensive systems are too good, and its unfair that they can’t attack us.

Here, the left is upset that their attacks aren’t working re the Arizona shooting, and would we just let them attack us?

BobMbx on January 11, 2011 at 11:46 AM

Orchestrated attack on silencing anyone to the right of Joe Lieberman.

Welcome to inter-war Germany. When do we get to the fun stuff?

Inanemergencydial on January 11, 2011 at 11:46 AM

In a nation of sheep, no one will defend against the wolves.

So, Mr. Halperin, defending ourselves is now considered inflammatory?

coldwarrior on January 11, 2011 at 11:47 AM

I guess the days of conservatives running and hiding at the first sign the race card is played … hey wait it’s now the murder card …

Those days are gone. Get over it.

tarpon on January 11, 2011 at 11:47 AM

Fire doesn’t melt steel.
The sky is falling.
It’s snowing, EPA to the rescue.
Now shut up.

Electrongod on January 11, 2011 at 11:47 AM

Does anyone else get the sense that the entire cast of Morning Joe is just trying a little too hard to be the temparate , calm Center? Yesterday Joe was claiming that Sarah Palin & Glenn Beck needed to “tone it down”. They attend the No Lables debacle. They’re looking for their niche. It’s one thing to fill a void, it’s another to try to convince us that there is a void.

humdinger on January 11, 2011 at 11:48 AM

I think it’s time conservatives start to speak with their wallets. ABC News is owned by Disney. ABC News weak reporting, the blowhards on The View blaming Palin and the incessant running of sound bites from the creepy sheriff of Pima County, it’s time we start to tell Disney that conservatives are tired of ABC’s rhetoric and we can start a boycott of ABC News sponsors, Disney Parks and other Disney properties.

CNN and Time are owned by Time Warner. Well, let’s get started by contacting their sponsors too. If the left can successfully get sponsors pulled from Glenn Beck,well conservatives can do it to.

The more we put pressure on the sponsors, of this yellow journalism, the bigger chance those sponsors will call Disney and Time Warner Sales Depts. and say……

Atlanta Media Guy on January 11, 2011 at 11:49 AM

Gandhi used passive resistance against the British. George Washington did not, though he presumably exploited pro-American sentiment among British Whigs. MLK had the TV networks in the back of his mind when he organized civil rights protests.

Who in the MSM is going to cry for conservatives if they let themselves get hosed?

Seth Halpern on January 11, 2011 at 11:49 AM

When Joe Scarborough is scoring points in an argument against you, it’s time to try a different tack.

This is Halperin pitching a hissy fit because this was supposed to be the crisis they were looking for to make those darn conservatives just STFU already. “Why aren’t they just taking their beating, waaaaaa”

It infuriates me to no end that they are using a horrifying and senseless act to push their agenda. After they got caught jumping to conclusions, they decided to double down instead of retracting and apologizing.

Red Cloud on January 11, 2011 at 11:49 AM

Silence is acquiescence.

mchristian on January 11, 2011 at 11:49 AM

The way the media has treated this event is the clearest example to date of how the left, democrats, the White House and the media all act as one big voice against everyone else.

It’s also so typically Soviet.

darwin on January 11, 2011 at 11:49 AM

Of all the arguments out there, blaming conservatives for not shutting up and turning the other cheek is probably the most infuriating. Especially in the context of “bringing the country together”.

Did he forget what just happened in the last election? I’d say that almost the entire country “got together” to kick liberals out of government en masse. We should allow liberals to define the debate? I think that they are the ones who should be turning the other cheek.

Mord on January 11, 2011 at 11:49 AM

I already made that criticism, as well. they’re right, but rather than seizing on it and turning the other cheek, they’re back at their war stations. that’s not going to help us.

there’s a term used for insurgent battle tactics overseas; it’s called “spray-and-pray”. An insurgent takes cover behind a wall/car etc then raises his weapon and sprays rounds over the area while praying he hits someone. That’s exactly what these lefties are doing, Ed. They’re lamenting that conservatives seek cover and defend when the MSM is “spraying-and-praying” they hit something. They don’t care what or who–guns, Palins, Limbaughs, Yorks, Fox—whoever they hit, the better.

Disappointing. These folks aren’t even worthy opponents for the intellectual might that guys like Ed Morrissey wield.

ted c on January 11, 2011 at 11:49 AM

The normally sensible Mark Halperin from Time

Huh? This is the guy who say Republicans should stop fighting the GZM because it was hurting Democrats. He said Obama would need a terror attack, or “luck” as he described it, to get back on track.

Halperin’s bias stretches back at least until 2004. Check his Wiki entry from back when he worked at ABC. Drudge posted an internal memo written by Halperin saying Kerry shouldn’t be as heavily scrutinized as Bush.

amerpundit on January 11, 2011 at 11:50 AM

I agree with Halperin.

And since McVeigh actually said that Oklahoma City was a response to Clinton and Reno, I blame them.

And since Regan was shot by a leftist, I blame them.

And since 9/11 was planned during the Clinton Admin, I blame Clinton and Halperin personally.

Sound fair?

barnone on January 11, 2011 at 11:50 AM

While the left has closed ranks around Giffords after the shooting, the truth is she was considered a traitor by the progressives for some of her “moderate” votes. Let us not do what DailyKOS wants us to do – forget how they really felt about her:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/01/is_daily_kos_to_blame_for_giff.html

http://patterico.com/2011/01/08/markos-blames-palin-for-giffords-shooting-but-theres-just-one-problem-daily-kos-put-a-bulls-eye-on-giffords-too/

Loughner is a hard left moonbat, and while clearly insane, it’s also pretty clear where he got his marching orders – and it wasn’t from Palin.

Halperin is trying to shut off the conversation before this highly damaging truth starts gaining traction. Conservatives are not supposed to challenge, or even turn the narrative on it’s head.

I say shove the fact that Loughner is a creature of the left, following the orders of the far left, to punish a traitor to their cause – down their throats.

Rebar on January 11, 2011 at 11:50 AM

Love it….. so the Judge is Tell’n da Jury Voters to un-hear it and the Lawyer Left got exactly what he wanted. Image planted. Ideas heard.

roflmao

donabernathy on January 11, 2011 at 11:51 AM

What exactly did Halperin and his magazine do to report that conservatives were being smeared, as he acknowledges three days later?

Exactly.

The narrative is turning on this story and all the media outlets and liberals that used this senseless tragedy for political gain are being exposed.

We have gone from “it’s all the right-wingers fault” to “yes liberals tried to smear Conservatives….they should have just sat back and taken it”.

I am sure this is not where Krugman,Olbermann,and elected democrats thought they would be at with this situation.

Congratulations liberals…you have used War,Funerals,and now Mass Murder to try and score political points and push your agenda…
……………how Progressive!!!!!

Baxter Greene on January 11, 2011 at 11:52 AM

Mr. Halperin, I think that Loughlin shot all those people because you said PBHO needed his own “Oklahoma City” moment and Loughlin wanted to provide it for him. Oh, anonymous sources also say that you regularly beat your wife with an electrical cord.

Now turn the other cheek and don’t say a word about this.

Bishop on January 11, 2011 at 11:52 AM

I am sick of all of this. We have innocent people who were killed, we have true American hero’s who saved lives, we have no idea of how this investigation is going and the media has ruined all of that.

The media took a tragedy and turned it into a circus. Instead of focusing on what’s important, we’re fighting this crap. They all make me sick this morning.

What in the heck happened to us?

Knucklehead on January 11, 2011 at 11:52 AM

Ramp up all rhetoric. Attack, attack, attack. Target all leftists, liberals, progressives and their respective drones.

Go on the offensive and make war against the left.

darwin on January 11, 2011 at 11:53 AM

with Scarborough hoping conservatives see it as a “wake-up call” on rhetoric even though he had just established that there was no connection between rhetoric and the shooting.

Isn’t this precious? Tragedies happen, elections happen things change but one remains the same—that is, that conservatives always have a lesson to learn from our intellectual betters. No facts, no evidence, just lessons for conservatives, maybe these tools should write a book about that— Lessons for Conservatives Vol I.

Sorry fellas, you lost the election, this was a tragedy. We’ll take credit for the election and your ass-kicking, but this tragedy is the work of a twisted young man. How’s that for your lesson?

ted c on January 11, 2011 at 11:53 AM

Are these the same people critical of John Kerry not going on the offensive with the Swift Boat veterans?

Jim-Rose on January 11, 2011 at 11:56 AM

Halperin read the polls this am.

Tomorrow’s poll will ask if cons over-reacted to the tea party smear.

Watch.

booter on January 11, 2011 at 11:56 AM

Mr. Halperin…I have not yet begun to fight.

kingsjester on January 11, 2011 at 11:56 AM

I think this putz and the idiot Pima County Sheriff need to be reminded that republican conservatives tea partiers have 1 potent weapon and that’s the ballot box. No need for violence on the right, that’s for sure. They did so well this election that the reasoning of this idiot journalist doesn’t make any sense – violence seems to benefit democrats more according to this kind of logic – the attempt of the democrats to connect this horrible crime to politics is laughable if it wasn’t so pathetic. If they want to play that game, then let’s see which party values life and which is the party of death – which party supports abortion, planned suicide, and euthenasia? Now the death penalty, that’s where I do go with the republicans especially in this case. But which party would be the one to prevent the death penalty…? If we use the cheapening of life as a guide, this killer fits which political profile? The democrats need to start realizing that the American people aren’t as stupid or mis-informed as in the 1990s (well some are, but not as many nowadays).

mozalf on January 11, 2011 at 11:58 AM

Talk bout ya violent speech……

Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”

** Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”

** Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”

** Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back Twice As Hard”

** Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose azz to kick.“

** Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat”

** Obama to lib supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”

** Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”

** Obama to democrats: “I’m itching for a fight.”.

yet somehow……….Crickets

roflmao

donabernathy on January 11, 2011 at 11:58 AM

Knucklehead on January 11, 2011 at 11:52 AM

It really is sad sad sad. These are the names of the lives that were snuffed-out of existence during the attack, not that the leftist trash care, they only want to use the corpses as props for their sick political shiite games.

-U.S. District Judge John Roll, 63.

-Gabe Zimmerman, 30, Giffords’ director of community outreach.

-Dorwin Stoddard, 76, a pastor at Mountain Ave. Church of Christ.

-Christina Greene, 9, a student at Mesa Verde Elementary.

-Dorthy Murray, 76.

-Phyllis Scheck, 79.

Bishop on January 11, 2011 at 11:58 AM

Turning the other cheek is how Bush 43 lost Congress in 2006.

Emperor Norton on January 11, 2011 at 11:59 AM

Mr. Halperin, meet Mr. Frum and Mr. Brooks.

WordsMatter on January 11, 2011 at 12:00 PM

Just like Justice Alito defending himself from an unprecedented attack on the court by President Obama, we cannot allow liberals to smear us and get away with it. Liberals primarily use emotion against their opponents, and good people everywhere have to stand up against them.

This topic fits with liberals incomprehensible philosophy of not defending oneself. Similar to them insisting people run away if possible rather than confront assailants, or gun control, or even being anti-missile defense, this is just a continuation of their irrational outlook on the world and unfortunately we’re forced to live with them.

scotash on January 11, 2011 at 12:01 PM

What in the heck happened to us?

Knucklehead on January 11, 2011 at 11:52 AM

We reached the apex when the definition of ‘is’ was placed in question. It’s been a downward spiral since.

darwin-t on January 11, 2011 at 12:01 PM

Today Jed Babbin makes the case that the Bamster himself is the source of much of the hatred in American politics today: Barry’s Angry Words

Some good points here. We know Bammie is an Alinskyan, he even taught Alinsky to others. The core of his style of ‘community organizing’ is ‘to rub raw the sores of discontent’, in other words to generate hatred of others.

slickwillie2001 on January 11, 2011 at 12:03 PM

The normally sensible RINO with his finger in the wind Mark Halperin

FIFY

pugwriter on January 11, 2011 at 12:03 PM

I spent years watching Firing Line with Bill Buckley on PBS and Crossfire with Pat Buchanan on CNN, and I never once thought about buying a gun.

Emperor Norton on January 11, 2011 at 12:04 PM

That is a meme of the day. Leftist trash accusing conservatives of “whining” because they won’t just sit back and let the leftist trash call them murderers.

I’ve seen that more than once around the intertubes. Along with the new hate term, “job killing.”

MNHawk on January 11, 2011 at 12:06 PM

The only fair fight liberals have with conservatives is when they can get conservatives to agree not to fight back.

Scrappy on January 11, 2011 at 12:06 PM

I spent years watching Firing Line with Bill Buckley on PBS and Crossfire with Pat Buchanan on CNN, and I never once thought about buying a gun.

And I never thought about those as examples. Brilliant!

MNHawk on January 11, 2011 at 12:07 PM

-U.S. District Judge John Roll, 63.

-Gabe Zimmerman, 30, Giffords’ director of community outreach.

-Dorwin Stoddard, 76, a pastor at Mountain Ave. Church of Christ.

-Christina Greene, 9, a student at Mesa Verde Elementary.

-Dorthy Murray, 76.

-Phyllis Scheck, 79.

Bishop on January 11, 2011 at 11:58 AM

Thanks Bishop. I don’t think I’ve seen those names mentioned her at HA. They are worth repeating.

Knucklehead on January 11, 2011 at 12:07 PM

This reminds me of Gandhi who believed that the German Jews ought to commit collective suicide, which would have aroused the world and the people of Germany to Hitler’s violence. After the war he argued that the Jews had been killed anyway, and might as well have died significantly.

“The Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher’s knife. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs.” ~~ Gandhi

Blake on January 11, 2011 at 12:08 PM

The normally sensible Mark Halperin

Since when?

And Halperin, et al, should take note we’re not going to ‘turn the other cheek’ so that they can walk all over us. We’re going to continue to rub their faces in their hypocrisy.

GarandFan on January 11, 2011 at 12:08 PM

This reminds me of Gandhi who believed that the German Jews ought to commit collective suicide, which would have aroused the world and the people of Germany to Hitler’s violence. After the war he argued that the Jews had been killed anyway, and might as well have died significantly.

“The Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher’s knife. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs.” ~~ Gandhi

Blake on January 11, 2011 at 12:09 PM

The elite media is not as powerful as Mark seems to think it is…those days are gone.

d1carter on January 11, 2011 at 12:09 PM

I really, really loved being called the commentariat. I know he meant the big wigs, but I decided that I’m one too. I’m reveling in a new world of recognition. lol

jeanie on January 11, 2011 at 12:10 PM

OT………

To the real story, Gabby Giffords is now breathing on her own.

Knucklehead on January 11, 2011 at 12:12 PM

Oh.
f.
off.
mark.

blatantblue on January 11, 2011 at 12:14 PM

Halperin: Hey, why did conservatives defend themselves from being smeared?

Conservatives are just doing what Obama told us to do:

(I thought this comment from Althouse’s blog was worth repeating)-(via Instapundit):

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2011/01/heres-partial-list-of-some-of-incidents.html

Florida said…

And let’s not forget that our President – Barack Obama – launched his political career in the Chicago living room of a domestic terrorist bomber – William Ayers.

So Democrats can fucking spare us the lecture on heated political rhetoric.

I’m going to do precisely what Barack Obama told me to do:

I intend to get in Democrat’s faces.

I intend to punch them back twice as hard.

I intend to bring a gun to their knife fight.

I intend to punish my enemies and reward my friends.

Just like Obama told us to.

Right on.

Baxter Greene on January 11, 2011 at 12:17 PM

Halperin: Hey, why did conservatives defend themselves from being smeared?

Conservatives are just doing what Obama told us to do:

(I thought this comment from Althouse’s blog was worth repeating)-(via Instapundit):

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2011/01/heres-partial-list-of-some-of-incidents.html

Florida said…

And let’s not forget that our President – Barack Obama – launched his political career in the Chicago living room of a domestic terrorist bomber – William Ayers.

So Democrats can f#$king spare us the lecture on heated political rhetoric.

I’m going to do precisely what Barack Obama told me to do:

I intend to get in Democrat’s faces.

I intend to punch them back twice as hard.

I intend to bring a gun to their knife fight.

I intend to punish my enemies and reward my friends.

Just like Obama told us to.

Right on.

Baxter Greene on January 11, 2011 at 12:18 PM

Mark Halperin of TIME (formerly of ABC news) is not to be confused with Mark Helprin, a conservative novelist and contributor to The Wall Street Journal.

Emperor Norton on January 11, 2011 at 12:19 PM

Why would Scarborough say rhetoric had nothing to do with it and then condem the Tea Party rhetoric ? Because he’s got a No Labels movement with about 12 followers including his dog.

Marcus on January 11, 2011 at 12:26 PM

Knucklehead on January 11, 2011 at 11:52 AM

The left is scared to death their opportunity has vanished. They want to blame the Tea Party but they have no “leader”, so they blame Palin, Beck, Rush, Fox News and “virulent rhetoric”. We are witnessing the death of the American elite media…the polls show that Americans aren’t listening to the elite media anymore.

d1carter on January 11, 2011 at 12:26 PM

If nothing in life is worth dying for, when did this begin–just in the face of this enemy? Or should Moses have told the children of Israel to live in slavery under the pharaohs? Should Christ have refused the cross? Should the patriots at Concord Bridge have thrown down their guns and refused to fire the shot heard ’round the world? The martyrs of history were not fools, and our honored dead who gave their lives to stop the advance of the Nazis didn’t die in vain. Where, then, is the road to peace? Well, it’s a simple answer after all. You and I have the courage to say to our enemies, “There is a price we will not pay.” There is a point beyond which they must not advance.

Ronald Reagan
A Time for Choosing
October 27, 1964

steebo77 on January 11, 2011 at 12:28 PM

This reminds me of Gandhi who believed that the German Jews ought to commit collective suicide, which would have aroused the world and the people of Germany to Hitler’s violence. After the war he argued that the Jews had been killed anyway, and might as well have died significantly.

“The Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher’s knife. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs.” ~~ Gandhi

Blake on January 11, 2011 at 12:09 PM

The idiotstick Deepak Chopra said the same thing on Dennis Miller’s tv show a few years ago.

slickwillie2001 on January 11, 2011 at 12:30 PM

The press is suspiciously silent about the many other victims of Loughner at the Safeway mini-townhall event.

Is the reason for this silence perhaps that those who were slain included a number of Tea Party activists?

If so, then I accuse the Left of having poisoned the mind of Jared Loughner with its toxic, overheated rhetoric extolling the virtues of death in all its many forms, and creating a climate of extreme hatred toward innocent conservatives.

FlameWarrior on January 11, 2011 at 12:30 PM

“Shut up,” they explained.

John the Libertarian on January 11, 2011 at 12:31 PM

Words have consequences, Marko.

OkieDoc on January 11, 2011 at 12:33 PM

Yes, Halperin is right…….

….Conservatives should just turn the other cheek, shut up and wait for the buses to take us to the Camps where we will be re-educated.

Hey Marky…..you ever read “First they Came“?

They came first for the Communists,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew.

Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.

Here is the 2011 version:

They came first for the Communists TALKERS ON RADIO,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist TALKER.

Then they came for trade unionists PALIN,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist PALIN.

Then they came for the Jews CHURCHES,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew REAL CHURCHGOER.

Then ONE DAY they came for meand by that time no one was left to speak up.

Let that soak in.

PappyD61 on January 11, 2011 at 12:37 PM

Translation: “If only you divisive conservatives would have seized the moment and done nothing when we called you accomplices to this atrocity!”

MJBrutus on January 11, 2011 at 12:37 PM

Why did conservatives feel the need to defend themselves?

It’s not easy defending yourself from viscious political attacks not even 24hrs after a senseless shooting spree, especially when we don’t have all the facts in yet. I feel for Sarah Palin. I think these people are horrible for what they are doing to her and her family.

apacalyps on January 11, 2011 at 12:39 PM

Mr. Halperin, meet Mr. Frum and Mr. Brooks.

WordsMatter on January 11, 2011 at 12:00 PM

Mr. Halperin, meet Mr. Frum and Mr. Brooks
And now, Moe, Larry and Curly!

FIFY!

belad on January 11, 2011 at 12:39 PM

It’s the Nifonging of all things conservative.

This whole thing is turning into a coordinated effort to Nifong the right. And Sheriff Dipstick is leading the charge. He’s the Tucson Nifong in this episode. With any luck, he’ll end up like Nifong did – out of work.

av8tr on January 11, 2011 at 12:42 PM

Meanwhile liberal whackos on Twitter want to see Sarah Palin dead. If anything happens to her, the media will be responsible.

http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/toxic-rhetoric-twitter-users-want-sarah-palin-dead-media-yawns

jdawg on January 11, 2011 at 12:42 PM

Loughner is a hard left moonbat, and while clearly insane, it’s also pretty clear where he got his marching orders – and it wasn’t from Palin.

Rebar on January 11, 2011 at 11:50 AM

Loughner was crazy. There is no politically there there. It’s both dishonest and playing the left’s game to give Loughner a position in the politics we play.

thuja on January 11, 2011 at 12:47 PM

jdawg on January 11, 2011 at 12:42 PM

Nice article. Well done!

Knucklehead on January 11, 2011 at 12:50 PM

Damned if we do, damned if we don’t.

4d4m on January 11, 2011 at 12:51 PM

The Liberals NEED someone for their folks to direct their anger, lest they figure it out and turn it on THEM. Hilter used the Jews to turn German’s anger on about the economy and the country he was leading right into the ditch. The Liberals HAVE to have someone (other than themselves) to blame.

For awhile (what seemed an ETERNITY!), they had G.W.Bush. Now that vitriol is turned on Sarah Palin. They want their people not to just dislike her or disagree with her. They want them to HATE her. And it looked to me like this was all planned just waiting for the moment some tragedy happened.

Also, everyone keeps forgetting in their lists of what’s been blamed on conservatism to add 9/11. Many on the Left believe that G.W. Bush caused 9/11. There’s really no difference in blaming this on Sarah and that on Bush. Same song, next verse.

UnderstandingisPower on January 11, 2011 at 12:52 PM

Halperin is exactly wrong. I believe that this is teachable for us. We should take the lies that the leftists have told about this incident and use it to attack them. Let us be clear that we were the victim of witch hunters. It’s morally wrong to let the hunters escape denunciation. Until they think they need evidence to make charges they will continue to conduct witch hunts. What will work is to vilify them as Joe McCarthy was vilified. (I’m not clear whether McCarthy should have been vilified, but he was for his alleged calumny.)

thuja on January 11, 2011 at 12:54 PM

Why would anybody go after somebody politically not even 24hrs after a horrible tragedy like this? I’d like to hear some motives. Thanks for your thoughts.

apacalyps on January 11, 2011 at 12:57 PM

I sort of get the feeling that these guys know how Ray Donovan felt when he was trying to figure out where to go to get back his reputation …

“We here at AboveTopSecret.com, our owners, staff and membership, find ourselves in the unfortunate position of apparently being one of the largest (if not the largest) repositories of online postings by someone who has been classified as a ‘monster’ (among other things) due to his (accused) actions of two days ago,” wrote the editors of the website in a statement on Monday. They said Loughner posted under the handle “erad3.”

J_Crater on January 11, 2011 at 12:58 PM

Damned if we do, damned if we don’t.

4d4m on January 11, 2011 at 12:51 PM

No kidding. The New York Times article “Palin, Amid Criticism, Stays in Electronic Comfort Zone,” criticizes her for not directly addressing the attacks.

LASue on January 11, 2011 at 1:00 PM

Halperin: “And, I already made that criticism, as well. they’re right, but rather than seizing on it and turning the other cheek, they’re back at their war stations. that’s not going to help us.”

us = fascists, socialists, progressives, liberals, democrats, greens, authoritarians, statists, leftists

Slowburn on January 11, 2011 at 1:00 PM

It’s both dishonest and playing the left’s game to give Loughner a position in the politics we play.

thuja on January 11, 2011 at 12:47 PM

Nonsense.

If they can try to smear conservatives without any evidence at all, we should be able to hang him around their necks with actual links to his actual political inclinations.

The conservative reflex of rolling over to the left’s narrative is stupid, and we should fight fire with fire. This man is crazy, but he is also a creature of the progressives – and we need to make them own him.

Rebar on January 11, 2011 at 1:01 PM

Halperin is exactly wrong. I believe that this is teachable for us. We should take the lies that the leftists have told about this incident and use it to attack them. Let us be clear that we were the victim of witch hunters. It’s morally wrong to let the hunters escape denunciation. Until they think they need evidence to make charges they will continue to conduct witch hunts. What will work is to vilify them as Joe McCarthy was vilified. (I’m not clear whether McCarthy should have been vilified, but he was for his alleged calumny.)

thuja on January 11, 2011 at 12:54 PM

Yep – this is the left WHINING because we have the audacity to defend ourselves. They don’t like it because we have the TRUTH on our side, and they don’t have a rejoinder for the TRUTH.

fossten on January 11, 2011 at 1:03 PM

Halp Us, Halperin! What’s the difference between a battle station and a war station?

Christien on January 11, 2011 at 1:08 PM

apacalyps on January 11, 2011 at 12:57 PM

Many political operatives who pose as “journalists” were waiting for an event to play this card. Taranto at the WSJ recounts the exact time of articles that were posted the day of the shooting or soon thereafter. These were already in the works just ready to attack. The Progressives are frightened their time is passing and they are fighting with everything they have. As Glenn Reynolds asked, “Where is the decency in this?”

d1carter on January 11, 2011 at 1:09 PM

back at their war stations

That’s just pure projection. The liberal lefties are always at their war stations. Evidence is them jumping on this story as a way to smear conservatives and tea partiers.

Pablo Snooze on January 11, 2011 at 1:14 PM

While the left has closed ranks around Giffords after the shooting, the truth is she was considered a traitor by the progressives for some of her “moderate” votes. Let us not do what DailyKOS wants us to do – forget how they really felt about her:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/01/is_daily_kos_to_blame_for_giff.html

http://patterico.com/2011/01/08/markos-blames-palin-for-giffords-shooting-but-theres-just-one-problem-daily-kos-put-a-bulls-eye-on-giffords-too/

Loughner is a hard left moonbat, and while clearly insane, it’s also pretty clear where he got his marching orders – and it wasn’t from Palin.

Halperin is trying to shut off the conversation before this highly damaging truth starts gaining traction. Conservatives are not supposed to challenge, or even turn the narrative on it’s head.

I say shove the fact that Loughner is a creature of the left, following the orders of the far left, to punish a traitor to their cause – down their throats.

Rebar on January 11, 2011 at 11:50 AM

This.

Not only do we not stop calling them liars when they point the finger at conservatives for this, we steadfastly point out the reality of the nature of this creature and where the truly vile festering dens of hatred are.

Midas on January 11, 2011 at 1:16 PM

d1carter on January 11, 2011 at 1:09 PM

And, so, in your judgment it is wrong to use something like a shooting massacre as a political weapon. I mean, would you agree that in the first 24hrs of something like this the media should wait for all the facts to come in before they render judgement?

apacalyps on January 11, 2011 at 1:21 PM

Halperin is a dyed in the wool lib. He will always help them “man the battle stations”. Bet on it.

clnurnberg on January 11, 2011 at 1:21 PM

If conservatives say nothing, as Haplo suggests, they will seize uponthat as agreement. He’s trying to use an Alynskyite tactic “Hey, ain’t you conservatives supposed to turn the other cheek, WWJD?”

Let’s not fall for their crap

clnurnberg on January 11, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Halperin: “And, I already made that criticism, as well. they’re right, but rather than seizing on it and turning the other cheek, they’re back at their war stations. that’s not going to help us.”

I love when “they” try to use our empathetic nature, developed by a foundation of judeo christian ethic, against our ability to call them on their lies.

Oh well… and, as I always say, my mom is the only one allowed to toss guilt at me…

Shivas Irons on January 11, 2011 at 1:26 PM

Bush tried to stay out of the argument and “act presidential”…all he got for it was more vitriol and poor approval ratings. It was a bad, bad strategy

clnurnberg on January 11, 2011 at 1:30 PM

Turning the other cheek is how Bush 43 lost Congress in 2006.
Emperor Norton on January 11, 2011 at 11:59 AM

thread winner rite thar.

PappyD61 on January 11, 2011 at 1:31 PM

A little historical perspective for Mr. Halperin:

To me there is major difference between the eras of OKC and Tuscon, and it has much to do with both internet and Fox/whatever:

Back in 1995 I was so grateful the American peeps were too smart to fall for Clinton’s ploy of blaming bombing on “right wing hate radio.”

We had few media tools to fight back with then. Just logic.

Today, with internet and Fox, the left will be lucky to have the feces they’re tossing around like monkey’s in a zoo not land all over their own faces. Have you heard the latest quote from Chancellor of my alma mater, never to get a penny from me:

I believe that it is not a coincidence that this calamity has occurred in a state which has legislated discrimination against undocumented persons.

Today, we have loaded weapons with crosshairs aimed at any idiocy coming out of angry loon left machine – metaphorically speaking.

[Hey, if we all bought teleprompters it would look as if we were turning cheeks every time we spoke... ;-]

Shivas Irons on January 11, 2011 at 1:36 PM

In other words, when liberals are attacked, their leader tells them to “get in their faces” and “punch back twice as hard.” But conservatives are supposed to “turn the other cheek” and react to outrageous smears by bringing the country together.

Ok, got it.

I think we conservatives learned the lessons of 1995 when the weasel Clinton hung OK City on Limbaugh and Gingrich as opposed to placing responsiblity where it belonged – the broad shoulders of Janet Reno.

johnboy on January 11, 2011 at 1:41 PM

the broad shoulders of Janet Reno.

Just when it was starting to work again… damn you… med treatment and Reno allusions cause all kinds of confusion in netherworld… be gentle in future… ;-)

Shivas Irons on January 11, 2011 at 1:44 PM

WWHWJWTMC?

Where Was HALP!erin When Jesus Whipped The Money-Changers?

Christien on January 11, 2011 at 1:45 PM

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