British paper to Obama: What do you mean, you have no stronger ally than France?

posted at 7:15 pm on January 11, 2011 by Allahpundit

I have to blog it, as stories about The One rudely snubbing the Brits have practically become a staple on righty blogs. Readers love ‘em, I think, partly because they’re seen as evidence of his disrespect for American traditions and partly because, when it comes to Britain, his toolishness manifests itself in ways cloddish and comical.

But honestly. Is this mindless diplomatic back-patting really something to get mad over?

Barack Obama has declared that France is America’s greatest ally, undermining Britain’s Special Relationship with the U.S.

The President risked offending British troops in Afghanistan by saying that French president Nicolas Sarkozy is a ‘stronger friend’ than David Cameron.

The remarks, during a White House appearance with Mr Sarkozy, will reinforce the widely-held view in British diplomatic circles that Mr Obama has less interest in the Special Relationship than any other recent American leader.

Mr Obama said: ‘We don’t have a stronger friend and stronger ally than Nicolas Sarkozy, and the French people.’

Nile Gardiner, director of the Margaret Thatcher Centre For Freedom at the Heritage Foundation think-tank, said: ‘Quite what the French have done to merit this kind of high praise from the U.S. President is difficult to fathom.

Follow the link up top for a painstaking recounting of Obama’s “pattern of coldness” towards the UK, replete with a sidebar speculating about whether he bears them a grudge for their treatment of his grandfather during Kenya’s colonial days. First off, as a purely semantic matter, he didn’t say France is our “greatest ally” or that they’re a “stronger friend” than Britain. (That would be even more absurd than what he actually did say.) He said we have no stronger friends than the French, which could mean that Britain is just as strong. Second, whether you believe him or not, The One told David Cameron as recently as May that “the United States has no closer friend and ally than the United Kingdom” and that he has a “deep and personal commitment to the special relationship between our two countries.” And third, he’s used this same rhetorical formulation before for Great Britain. I hate to link Media Matters but they’ve actually got a useful round-up of quotes on this from Bush officials and other Republicans vis-a-vis other nations (Dubya saying “we’ve got no better friends than Canada,” Condi saying the same of Japan, etc). Nothing new here, really, so what’s this really about? Is this just the ancient antagonism between the Brits and the French flaring up because of praise for Sarkozy?

Exit question via Nile Gardiner: Given reports of Sarkozy’s disdain for Obama, why did The One choose France for such heavy praise?

Update: The Independent is dumping all over the Daily Mail and Gardiner for their “willfully dyslexic” reading of what Obama said.


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Obama is talking about Sarkozy’s wife.

She is a fox.

portlandon on January 11, 2011 at 7:19 PM

We have no worse president than Barack Obama.

backwoods conservative on January 11, 2011 at 7:21 PM

Exit question via Nile Gardiner: Given reports of Sarkozy’s disdain for Obama, why did The One choose France for such heavy praise?

Exit answer
http://www.top100golfcourses.co.uk/htmlsite/country.asp?id=12

ted c on January 11, 2011 at 7:23 PM

Let it be known I and the Americans I know like and respect the Brits. As far as Obama, I am not surprised with his latest insult, he doesn’t like the U.S. either.

diogenes on January 11, 2011 at 7:24 PM

Obama remind me of Eddie Murphy in The Distinguished Gentleman, where he gives the same speech to various lobbies.

They all seem so flattering and ingenuous, until the others know you’ve given them the same schpeal.

bloghooligan on January 11, 2011 at 7:24 PM

Besides, if you’re going to issue this type of snub…why not with a country you at least won’t surrender? Why not Merkel? Bad choice all around.

bloghooligan on January 11, 2011 at 7:25 PM

Eh, given the snubs he’s given them (esp. since the Brits went full tilt Obama-gaga over him during the 2008 elections…even Hannan supported him), they feel hurt and are super-sensitive. I think they feel alone too. They just need a big ole Obama hug.

AUINSC on January 11, 2011 at 7:26 PM

Please, let’s vote him out in 2012, before he declares war on Britain.

SC.Charlie on January 11, 2011 at 7:26 PM

Barry’s just carrying on Granddad’s grudge. Besides Barry thinks the French are cool.

GarandFan on January 11, 2011 at 7:26 PM

heh. “willful dyslexia”….*snort*

ted c on January 11, 2011 at 7:28 PM

I thought France was our smelliest ally.

Cicero43 on January 11, 2011 at 7:29 PM

We have no worse president than Barack Obama.

backwoods conservative on January 11, 2011 at 7:21 PM

A+

JellyToast on January 11, 2011 at 7:29 PM

Seems as though zero has a golden tongue. He is able to eliminate entire countries as allies in a single slurring remark.

dragondrop on January 11, 2011 at 7:30 PM

France: “We got your Back America!”

USA: “Oh crap. We better find someone to have THEIR back.”

portlandon on January 11, 2011 at 7:30 PM

John Kerry approves this message.

ted c on January 11, 2011 at 7:30 PM

The difference between Bush and Obama regarding our allies is that Bush went out of his way to make them feel welcomed.

Whereas his toolness, well, you covered it accurately.
He’s king of his world that lives between his ears.

Kini on January 11, 2011 at 7:32 PM

France says, we’re behind you all the way!

Kini on January 11, 2011 at 7:33 PM

France: the place we had to liberate twice from the Germans.

If they’re the pillar of strength….sheesh.

ted c on January 11, 2011 at 7:33 PM

France: we have no stronger (pacifists) than we do in France.

ted c on January 11, 2011 at 7:34 PM

S M A R T P O W E R ! ! ! ! ! ! !

What a boneheaded thing to say.

scalleywag on January 11, 2011 at 7:35 PM

Maybe it’s just like every single problem in the world being his “top priority.” Even so, is there a quicker way to insult the British than to suggest they’re no better than the French?

tom on January 11, 2011 at 7:36 PM

Mark steyn wrote a great piece about this. It is in the book America Alone

Inanemergencydial on January 11, 2011 at 7:37 PM

Besides Barry thinks the French are cool.

GarandFan on January 11, 2011 at 7:26 PM

He just likes saying merci beaucoup

darwin-t on January 11, 2011 at 7:39 PM

Nothing new here, really, so what’s this really about?

You lose all of that benefit of the doubt regarding “what you really meant” when you have demonstrated a pattern of antagonism towards the target.

amerpundit on January 11, 2011 at 7:41 PM

By now, who in th world doesn’t know who our weakling so called president is ?

tarpon on January 11, 2011 at 7:43 PM

I just want Obama in office when the Euro collapses. Europe loves him. Let them have him when they need help the most.

Canadian Infidel on January 11, 2011 at 7:43 PM

Their arugala recipes are outstanding!!!

swamp_yankee on January 11, 2011 at 7:43 PM

SMART POWER!

American Elephant on January 11, 2011 at 7:43 PM

Obviously, having gotten rid of the Churchill bust, Obama is seeking to replace it with one of Louis XVI.

malclave on January 11, 2011 at 7:44 PM

That’s not true. Poland, Romania and the Czech Republic are our best allies in Europe.

Tommy_G on January 11, 2011 at 7:45 PM

‘Quite what the French have done to merit this kind of high praise from the U.S. President is difficult to fathom.’

How about…”They helped us get you off our damned backs in 1776!”

BierManVA on January 11, 2011 at 7:47 PM

I just wish the British had tortured that idiot’s commie bigamist father more.

Then we wouldn’t have gotten stuck with this POS.

TexasJew on January 11, 2011 at 7:47 PM

To be honest, like George Washington, I am of the mind that having real close allies can be a headache.
With that said, I assume he hates the British bcs he hates Churchill.

That’s not true. Poland, Romania and the Czech Republic are our best allies in Europe.

Tommy_G on January 11, 2011 at 7:45 PM

And BO sold them upriver for a few shekels.
Those poor people.

Badger40 on January 11, 2011 at 7:48 PM

Denish DeSouza is 100% right in his assessment of Obama. After what he perceives are the British crimes against Africa he holds her in utter contempt. Its one of Obamas’ “dreams from his father”…

liquidflorian on January 11, 2011 at 7:48 PM

So I guess that Michelle is still all wee wee’d up about no wedding invitation.

katy the mean old lady on January 11, 2011 at 7:48 PM

Did he give up the teleprompter as a New Years Resolution? It’s most definitely one of those off the cuff fluffs.

tru2tx on January 11, 2011 at 7:49 PM

Maybe Obama, and Sarkozy bonded at a Moulin Rouge or something? LOL

capejasmine on January 11, 2011 at 7:51 PM

Barry loves the French more because the French are just a tad more muslimized than England at this point.

SouthernGent on January 11, 2011 at 7:51 PM

Allah you really are a sucker for the Daily Mail.

lexhamfox on January 11, 2011 at 7:52 PM

Given reports of Sarkozy’s disdain for Obama, why did The One choose France for such heavy praise?

They don’t bow in France.

csdeven on January 11, 2011 at 7:52 PM

I only order freedom fries.

John the Libertarian on January 11, 2011 at 7:53 PM

Given reports of Sarkozy’s disdain for Obama, why did The One choose France for such heavy praise?

They are much more fashion forward and Meeshell needs all the help she can get.

Heidi Klum, Project Runway

Knucklehead on January 11, 2011 at 7:56 PM

I like the Brits and the Skits…

I’m really starting to love their TV. MI-5 (Spooks), Dr. Who, Life on Mars/Ashes to Ashes…Torchwood…

BigWyo on January 11, 2011 at 7:58 PM

Exit question via Nile Gardiner: Given reports of Sarkozy’s disdain for Obama, why did The One choose France for such heavy praise?
Exit answer
http://www.top100golfcourses.co.uk/htmlsite/country.asp?id=12

ted c on January 11, 2011 at 7:23 PM

Oh, you are good!

Czarina on January 11, 2011 at 7:59 PM

Perhaps genius boy should read:

Our Oldest Enemy: A History of America’s Disastrous Relationship with France

by Miller and Molesky.

Put him on some knowledge

Valiant on January 11, 2011 at 7:59 PM

You expect straight talk from a street corner hustler?

bayview on January 11, 2011 at 8:01 PM

Not surprising. Zero thinks he’s Louie and Mooch thinks she’s Marie Antoinette. Boo koo pah-tay down at da pal – ay. Let them eat Waygu… homies.

viking01 on January 11, 2011 at 8:02 PM

The header made me laugh out loud.

I could hear the accented incredulity in that statement.

Too funny.

Mistahtibbs on January 11, 2011 at 8:05 PM

O/T O`Reilly had another good Talking Points against Sheriff Dumpster Mouth.

bluemarlin on January 11, 2011 at 8:06 PM

Peace prize.

Ronnie on January 11, 2011 at 8:08 PM

OT……….

BOR opens can of whoopa$$ on Sheriff Dupe

Knucklehead on January 11, 2011 at 8:08 PM

The short answer to whether we should be concerned about this type of thing is- it is part of the job description that the President of the United States should know how to handle these situations. As far as I am concerned, this is another example of how far he is out of his league. And that does concern me.

Texas Aggie on January 11, 2011 at 8:08 PM

Barry loves the French more because the French are just a tad more muslimized than England at this point.

SouthernGent on January 11, 2011 at 7:51 PM

Obama also wants to be more French in his international dealings.

He yearns for the courage to stop apologizing, and start surrendering.

malclave on January 11, 2011 at 8:09 PM

Update: The Independent is dumping all over the Daily Mail and Gardiner for their “willfully dyslexic” reading of what Obama said.

The rivalry between the left and catty Independent and the more light and mainstream Daily Mail is intense. Their sneer is not surprising or unusual.

Also, I’d be more interested in the Independent’s take on this if they hadn’t already cemented a reputation as bomb throwing leftist kooks.

Django on January 11, 2011 at 8:23 PM

I have to blog it,……….
But honestly. Is this mindless diplomatic back-patting really something to get mad over?

And there you have “Allahpundit Classic” ‘in all fairness’ boilerplate.
Speaking of which,
Here is a WWII era document unearthed recently featuring the writings of the
Renown, snarky ,wonkish German political writer called “Reichpundit”


The obligatory ‘Enabling Act’ post
A lot of invective is being spent on ‘our side’ of the isle and among the resistance concerning The Chancellor’s institution of the Enabling Act claiming he’s instituting dictatorial powers and a ‘one man rule’.
It’s doubtful he’d ever get away with “taking over” every aspect of German life by fiat since it has to be renewed by the Reichstag every four years but why institute it now?
In all fairness, isn’t “the fuehrer “ just appealing to his base to position himself for the November 1933 elections.? The claims that he is making himself a one man law are doubtless to fire up the base of his opposition on our side as well. You have to give him credit for his political skill for instituting a law that, while probably harmless ,gives his party base a rallying cry and he does have a point about the need for a single source of responding to domestic threats. (Or does that make me a WRINO -Weimar Republican In Name Only-hee hee)
C‘mon, champ, isn’t this just a diversion to cover up for that ugly “Volkswagen” thing?
For a palate cleanser, here’s photos from the 1933 Nuremberg NSWP rally.
Exit question. Do you think Goebbels will get his own radio show after the stem winder of a speech there?

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on January 11, 2011 at 8:24 PM

Sigh. I would say more but I don’t want to incite some lib nutcase.

Dingbat63 on January 11, 2011 at 8:29 PM

The problem is that the most recent press release forgot to capitalize “Special Relationship” in discussing Britain’s Special Relationship with the U.S.

slp on January 11, 2011 at 8:32 PM

Obama is talking about Sarkozy’s wife.

She is a fox.

portlandon on January 11, 2011 at 7:19 PM

She’s a who-ah.

Alden Pyle on January 11, 2011 at 8:38 PM

To our British friends,

We are sincerely sorry that our president is dumber than a sack of wet sand. We, as Americans promise to fix this situation in 2012. Thank you for your patience…

joe btfsplk on January 11, 2011 at 8:47 PM

Through thick and thin, war and peace, every time France has been there and stood by, whenever THEY NEED US TO PULL THEIR ASSES OUT OF THE LINE OF FIRE!!! Get real, Obama. Know our real allies, Britain, Poland, Australia and a few more I’ve forgotten.

Dandapani on January 11, 2011 at 8:53 PM

JFC…..How did this moron get elected President of the United States?

To all the Brits, sorry. To the Frogs, kiss off. When we want to know what wine (whine?) goes with appeasement, maybe we’ll call.

HBowmanMD on January 11, 2011 at 9:19 PM

Nile Gardiner, director of the Margaret Thatcher Centre For Freedom at the Heritage Foundation think-tank, said: ‘Quite what the French have done to merit this kind of high praise from the U.S. President is difficult to fathom.

Actually if you look at history the French were allies of the US during the war of 1776.

While I will not try to excuse his actions a certain traitor thought the war was lost and it would be better if the colonies were under UK control rather then the French.

All that being said I consider the UK to be our strongest ally and if necessary this American bloke will give his life in defense of the queen.

/just saying

F15Mech on January 11, 2011 at 9:21 PM

The reason us Brits are so inflamed by this, AP, is because British servicemen are fighting and being maimed and dying in Iraq and Afghanistan alongside our US allies.

Care to compare the French contingent’s numbers and casualties with Britain’s?

Quite frankly, this makes me really, really ****ing furious.

And a great number of people here in the UK will no doubt now be asking themselves why the hell British soldiers should continue to fight and die in Afghanistan alongside their American cousins when our “special relationship” has come to an end under Obama. Right now, I’d find it hard to argue with them.

And let me say this- I love America, I truly believe it is a shining beacon of hope to all the world, and I support all the great, great things the USA stands for.

Roll on 2012 when this socialist dipstick gets booted out of office before he causes any more harm to your great nation.

Jay Mac on January 11, 2011 at 9:42 PM

The Brits drooled over Obama before his election despite the warning signs, I have a hard time having sympathy for them right now.

scotash on January 11, 2011 at 10:06 PM

JFC…..How did this moron get elected President of the United States?

To all the Brits, sorry. To the Frogs, kiss off. When we want to know what wine (whine?) goes with appeasement, maybe we’ll call.

HBowmanMD on January 11, 2011 at 9:19 PM

The Brits aren’t the least bit offended as Presidents and other American leaders from both parties do this all the time, verbatim.

The French are in fact very good allies especially when it comes to prosecuting the war on AQ and other enemies. Alliance Base is extremely successful so think about that before telling them to ‘kiss off.’

lexhamfox on January 11, 2011 at 10:12 PM

BTDT, and have no use for the frogs.

HBowmanMD on January 11, 2011 at 10:29 PM

Obama’s an idiot.

ORconservative on January 11, 2011 at 10:47 PM

You lose all of that benefit of the doubt regarding “what you really meant” when you have demonstrated a pattern of antagonism towards the target.

amerpundit on January 11, 2011 at 7:41 PM

Exactly. This comment of Obama’s would likely have been overlooked if he hadn’t already sent back the bust of Churchill, insulted the Prime Minister on multiple occasions, etc.

I said it before in the headline section, but to repeat:

I think President Washington did more to reach out diplomatically and foster good feelings between America and Great Britan than our current president is.

DrAllecon on January 12, 2011 at 12:06 AM

Sarkozy’s response,”Sucmee blieu!”or something like that.

cartooner on January 12, 2011 at 12:21 AM

Obama is talking about Sarkozy’s wife.

She is a fox.

portlandon on January 11, 2011 at 7:19 PM

Only in relative terms…compared to his own horse.

Sorry to the good horses.

Schadenfreude on January 12, 2011 at 12:22 AM

Obama’s statement about France is another look into his mind, a very small mind, and you see his bitterness towards the British for the slave trade of oh so long ago.

Anyone who does not think this guy is a very, very prejudiced fellow is fooling themselves.

jarhead0311 on January 12, 2011 at 12:28 AM

Maybe Hillary’s got an extra “overcharge” button laying around…

hillbillyjim on January 12, 2011 at 12:37 AM

France?

I thought California was our closest ally?

Maybe after the bailout then?

David2.0 on January 12, 2011 at 12:38 AM

Face it Brits… your love for Obama is unrequited.

That goes for all of Europe actually. He may be half-European, but he’s rejected that part of himself.

petunia on January 12, 2011 at 1:44 AM

Allah, I’m not sure which English lesson you missed:

“First off, as a purely semantic matter, he didn’t say France is our “greatest ally” or that they’re a “stronger friend” than Britain. ”

Uhm.. yes he did.

‘We don’t have a stronger friend and stronger ally than Nicolas Sarkozy, and the French people.’…

In other words the French People and Mr. Sarkozy are our “strongest allies”.. because there is no one stronger. THat sounds to me like he’s calling France a greater ally/stronger friend than the UK.

DaSaintFan on January 12, 2011 at 3:46 AM

The Brits aren’t the least bit offended as Presidents and other American leaders from both parties do this all the time, verbatim.

lexhamfox on January 11, 2011 at 10:12 PM

Actually, we are offended- our servicemen are dying in Afghanistan fighting in a war alongside America- for the American president to then come out and say that France, not the UK, is your strongest ally…yeah, to say we’re offended is to put it mildly.

And for others to say that us Brits love Obama and supported him during the election is to ignore that there are liberals and conservatives here in the UK too. It makes as much sense as us saying that because all the media coming out of the US during the campaign loved Obama then all Americans loved Obama too.

Jay Mac on January 12, 2011 at 4:27 AM

I guess with affirmative action you didn’t need to take the diplomacy class!

Lonetown on January 12, 2011 at 4:31 AM

Barry’s just carrying on Granddad’s grudge. Besides Barry thinks the French are cool.

GarandFan on January 11, 2011 at 7:26 PM

Agreed. Also, the French are sprinting toward Sharia. The Brits are slouching toward it.

Obama is talking about Sarkozy’s wife.

She is a fox.

portlandon on January 11, 2011 at 7:19 PM

Only in relative terms…compared to his own horse.

Sorry to the good horses.

Schadenfreude on January 12, 2011 at 12:22 AM

Say, Michelle, why the long face?

Extrafishy on January 12, 2011 at 9:19 AM

Israel and Poland should also feel snubbed by Mr. Obama. Also Canada and Australia as well. While current French government is better than the usual French post war governments, it is still far less of an ally than any of the countries named above, and probably a dozen others not named. Given that the French are selling sensitive NATO naval vessels to our frenemy, the Soviet Union, er, sorry Russia, France’s bona fides still have a long way to go.

eaglewingz08 on January 12, 2011 at 10:29 AM

What amazes me is that a Facebook “friend” (high school contact) flatly denies it happened because it hasn’t shown up in “mainstream american media.”

thatdamnredhead on January 12, 2011 at 1:37 PM

The Brits aren’t the least bit offended as Presidents and other American leaders from both parties do this all the time, verbatim.

lexhamfox on January 11, 2011 at 10:12 PM

Actually, we are offended- our servicemen are dying in Afghanistan fighting in a war alongside America- for the American president to then come out and say that France, not the UK, is your strongest ally…yeah, to say we’re offended is to put it mildly.

And for others to say that us Brits love Obama and supported him during the election is to ignore that there are liberals and conservatives here in the UK too. It makes as much sense as us saying that because all the media coming out of the US during the campaign loved Obama then all Americans loved Obama too.

Jay Mac on January 12, 2011 at 4:27 AM

Fortunately the British are made of sterner stuff and they don’t go all pissy because the President of the United States uses a phrase uttered regularly over the decades to highlight the good relations between the US and France. An article in the Daily Mail does not make a national trend.

We don’t get apoplectic when the UK sides with France on issues. Your dramatic reaction to this little blurb to the French is amusing.

lexhamfox on January 12, 2011 at 2:31 PM