Bill Clinton: Political differences shouldn’t “degenerate into demonization”

posted at 6:26 pm on January 11, 2011 by Allahpundit

Not even when there’s a reelection battle to be waged? I was going to write about former Rep. Paul Kanjorski surreally calling for civility in the NYT today after having casually suggested that the new Republican governor of Florida should be shot during the campaign, but Nick Gillespie’s already all over that. Let me focus instead on an even more prominent Democrat. Read today’s piece from the BBC, then read this Byron York post from last year summarizing Clinton’s strategy sessions with Dick Morris after the Oklahoma City bombing. We pick up the story on April 27, 1995, after Morris has handed him an agenda list which includes, as its third item, “Permanent possible gain: sets up Extremist Issue vs. Republicans.”

Later, under the heading “How to use extremism as issue against Republicans,” Morris told Clinton that “direct accusations” of extremism wouldn’t work because the Republicans were not, in fact, extremists. Rather, Morris recommended what he called the “ricochet theory.” Clinton would “stimulate national concern over extremism and terror,” and then, “when issue is at top of national agenda, suspicion naturally gravitates to Republicans.” As that happened, Morris recommended, Clinton would use his executive authority to impose “intrusive” measures against so-called extremist groups. Clinton would explain that such intrusive measures were necessary to prevent future violence, knowing that his actions would, Morris wrote, “provoke outrage by extremist groups who will write their local Republican congressmen.” Then, if members of Congress complained, that would “link right-wing of the party to extremist groups.” The net effect, Morris concluded, would be “self-inflicted linkage between [GOP] and extremists.”…

It was a political strategy crafted while rescue and recovery efforts were still underway in Oklahoma City. And it worked better than Clinton or Morris could have predicted. In the months after the bombing, Clinton regained the upper hand over Republicans, eventually winning battles over issues far removed from the attack. The next year, 1996, he went on to re-election. None of that might have happened had Clinton, along with Morris, not found a way to wring as much political advantage as possible out of the deaths in Oklahoma City. And that is the story you’re not hearing in all the anniversary discussions.

Frame the issue so that suspicion “naturally gravitates to Republicans.” How far we’ve come, my friends. (How did Dick Morris end up as a conservative pundit in good standing, anyway?) In that same vein, here’s Ace writing about that ridiculous Newsweek article I posted on earlier. A la Morris, if you can’t actually connect the dots, let the dots … “gravitate” together:

JackStraw notices them doing this on Hardball; I’ve been noticing it too. This is the new normal of “journalism.” Which JackStraw describes as:

“This is the new technique. Don’t explicitly connect the dots, just put the dots an inch apart and let the viewer connect them”…

Newsweek’s and Matthew’s viewers don’t show up for the truth or facts; they show up for leftist talking points. Now, both of these having pretenses of journalistic enterprises, they cannot simply lie directly. So they don’t. They just, as JackStraw says, put two dots thisclose to each other and let their hyperpartisan audiences fill them in.

And, if the public begins to subconsciously associate the two together through the cute use of Loughner’s picture under headlines about “right-wing extremism,” so much the better.

As a gloss on this, two clips on the shootings from last night’s Stewart and Colbert shows. They could have gone full demagogue on the right — they are, after all, liberal icons — but both refused to lay blame, whether out of simple decency (or “sanity”) or because, as media critics first and foremost, maybe even they can’t believe what they’ve seen over the past three days. Stewart makes a good point that occurred to me too over the weekend as a contributing factor to the “blame conservatives” narrative — namely, that it’s comforting to think rhetoric might have caused this because rhetoric is something under our individual control. That’s an undercurrent of 9/11 Truth too: If Bush blew up the towers, then the problem is solved once Bush is gone. But if it’s Al Qaeda, or a bug-eyed nut whose oddness extends only to strange theories about grammer until the day it takes a dark turn, oh boy. No control at all. Terrifying.


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If anyone knows about degeneracy and demonizing…..

darwin-t on January 11, 2011 at 6:29 PM

It was different back then. People are much more informed and have longer memories.

Kini on January 11, 2011 at 6:31 PM

Remember when the Clinton Admin. advocated violence against politicians and media figures?

It was there that Emanuel, then Clinton’s chief fund-raiser, repaired with George Stephanopoulos, Mandy Grunwald and other aides to Doe’s, the campaign hangout. Revenge was heavy in the air as the group discussed the enemies – Democrats, Republicans, members of the press – who wronged them during the 1992 campaign…Suddenly Emanuel grabbed his steak knife and, as those who were there remeber it, shouted out the name of another enemy, lifted the knife, then brought it down with full force into the table.

”Dead!” he screamed.

The group immediately joined in the cathartic release: ”Nat Landow! Dead! Cliff Jackson! Dead! Bill Schaefer! Dead!”

Tell me something, is plunging a knife into a table screaming “dead” after reading a list of your political “enemies” better or worse than crosshairs? I need to get this straight for our brave new world of regulated/acceptable speech.

Weight of Glory on January 11, 2011 at 6:32 PM

Is it me, or does Clinton look like he’s sparking a bowl in that pic? What are the semiotics of such an image … I wonder …

elcapt on January 11, 2011 at 6:32 PM

Bill Clinton: Political differences shouldn’t “degenerate into demonization”

Lying toady!

patch on January 11, 2011 at 6:32 PM

Another possible motivation for the Stewart/Colbert stances: They engage in hyperbolic political rhetoric as a profession.

amerpundit on January 11, 2011 at 6:33 PM

A la Morris, if you can’t actually connect the dots, let the dots … “gravitate” together:

You say it like it’s by calculation….

the_nile on January 11, 2011 at 6:33 PM

How did Dick Morris end up as a conservative pundit in good standing, anyway?

The competition is weak.

Emperor Norton on January 11, 2011 at 6:34 PM

The left and the lame-stream have realized they lost more than the election. It’s a twofer.

tarpon on January 11, 2011 at 6:34 PM

How did Dick Morris end up as a conservative pundit in good standing, anyway?

Conservatives have better tasting toes?

Knucklehead on January 11, 2011 at 6:37 PM

Bill Clinton: Political differences shouldn’t “degenerate into demonization” and…

THE REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO MAKE OLD PEOPLE EAT DOG FOOD!!!

EVIL, EVIL, EVIL VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY!!!!

Please!

hawkdriver on January 11, 2011 at 6:38 PM

Tell me something, is plunging a knife into a table screaming “dead” after reading a list of your political “enemies” better or worse than crosshairs? I need to get this straight for our brave new world of regulated/acceptable speech.

Weight of Glory on January 11, 2011 at 6:32 PM

Speaking of crosshairs, check out the new T shirt the Left have created to take advantage of this tragedy:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2655118/posts

Don’t bother trying the link to the seller, the item has apparently already been pulled. But FR has the cached photos of the shirt at the link above. Isn’t this shirt special?

Del Dolemonte on January 11, 2011 at 6:39 PM

Bill Clinton: Political differences shouldn’t “degenerate into demonization”

Saith the man who brought us the politics of personal destruction.

Mirimichi on January 11, 2011 at 6:42 PM

Del Dolemonte on January 11, 2011 at 6:39 PM

Holy Cow!

fourdeucer on January 11, 2011 at 6:43 PM

Newsweek’s and Matthew’s viewers don’t show up for the truth or facts; they show up for leftist talking points.
They just, as JackStraw says, put two dots thisclose to each other and let their hyperpartisan audiences fill them in.

Goebbels would so Proud of the Left these days.

Colbyjack on January 11, 2011 at 6:44 PM

Del Dolemonte on January 11, 2011 at 6:39 PM

Nice.

Weight of Glory on January 11, 2011 at 6:45 PM

However, simple vast conspiracies are fine

BobMbx on January 11, 2011 at 6:46 PM

read this Byron York post from last year summarizing Clinton’s strategy sessions with Dick Morris after the Oklahoma City bombing.

how can anyone, with a straight face, report a story based entirely on dick morris’s word is beyond me. how much do you have to hate the clintons to trust a wanker like morris?

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2011 at 6:47 PM

Hmm, a wanker vs a rapist/perjurer. Who am I going to trust?

slickwillie2001 on January 11, 2011 at 6:50 PM

However, simple vast Right-Wing conspiracies are fine

BobMbx on January 11, 2011 at 6:46 PM

FIFY

Kini on January 11, 2011 at 6:51 PM

My hate for the far left grows daily, particularly since this incident in AZ.

blatantblue on January 11, 2011 at 6:51 PM

I like the banner across the screen at MSNBC (sorry it’s one of the many channels we have on at work that I don’t control)

“Will Palin and Fox news scale back the violoent rhetoric following the tradegy in tuscon?”

Ditkaca on January 11, 2011 at 6:51 PM

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2011 at 6:47 PM

You do realize that Morris was at these strategy sessions and had input right?

darwin-t on January 11, 2011 at 6:52 PM

except MSNBC spelled “tragedy” correctly, doh

Ditkaca on January 11, 2011 at 6:52 PM

Hmm, a wanker vs a rapist/perjurer/impeached president. Who am I going to trust?

slickwillie2001 on January 11, 2011 at 6:50 PM

FIFY

Wethal on January 11, 2011 at 6:53 PM

He’s setting the stage for the return of the fairness doctrine. “We all need to just get along and stop our fighting” (defined as: “Our opinions will be the only legal opinions.”)

JellyToast on January 11, 2011 at 6:54 PM

Krauthammer just addressed Slick’s response to the OKC bombings. Gave him kudos for the comforting, nonpartisan speech on site, then promptly tore him a new one for going to Milwaukee the next day and blaming talk radio for creating the hostile enviorment triggering the bombing. :)

a capella on January 11, 2011 at 6:54 PM

As a former president, Clinton has actually been pretty good about this. He had a golden opportunity to make himself and Hillary look good by jumping on the Demonize W bandwagon, and he never did.

MayBee on January 11, 2011 at 6:55 PM

how can anyone, with a straight face, report a story based entirely on dick morris’s word is beyond me. how much do you have to hate the clintons to trust a wanker like morris?

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2011 at 6:47 PM

So you are saying that Political advisers are Liars?

We agree on something.

portlandon on January 11, 2011 at 6:56 PM

For what it’s worth, I don’t think that the damage done by the MSM over the last several days can be un-done at this point. They serially indicted 60% of Americans. Not good political strategy.

This isn’t 1995 and Obama is no Bill Clinton. This episode orchestrated by his cheerleaders and lapdogs might just put an end to his hopes of re-election and a second coat of shellack on his party in 2012.

Key West Reader on January 11, 2011 at 6:58 PM

how can anyone, with a straight face, report a story based entirely on dick morris’s word is beyond me. how much do you have to hate the clintons to trust a wanker like morris?

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2011 at 6:47 PM

Hmmm not much of an argument I see. Seems you should be able to easily debunk such a wanker. I suspect you can’t. In fact based on your history I am about 99 percent sure you can’t.

CWforFreedom on January 11, 2011 at 7:02 PM

You do realize that Morris was at these strategy sessions and had input right?

darwin-t on January 11, 2011 at 6:52 PM

you do realize that morris is a shameless liar, right?

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2011 at 7:03 PM

Well, no matter what kind of speech Obama gives at the memorial service, the media will enjoy a collective pantswetting at the statesmanship and empathy. I do hope he gives a decent one for the sake of the victims and their loved ones.

a capella on January 11, 2011 at 7:03 PM

The Slickmeister returns!

Ain’t it funny how the call for moderation only started
to appear AFTER 3+ days of nonstop finger pointing was already done toward TP, Palin, et al?

And then only when the Left knew it was gonna have to own this tragedy.
Now, it’s just like this.

Which is funny of itself, because the small minded entertainers and what passes for celebrities merely transfer their own self loathing and insecurities into characters that their fans make larger than life becoming true scions of the mooovement.

Well, I call bullshit. You pea brained “intellectuals” are causing this atmosphere of hate and you’re gonna rue the day when the unwashed masses rise up and lock you away in a padded cell.

OkieDoc on January 11, 2011 at 7:04 PM

CWforFreedom on January 11, 2011 at 7:02 PM

morris is debunked by his byline.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2011 at 7:06 PM

Well, no matter what kind of speech Obama gives at the memorial service, the media will enjoy a collective pantswetting at the statesmanship and empathy. I do hope he gives a decent one for the sake of the victims and their loved ones.

a capella on January 11, 2011 at 7:03 PM

Rush called it pretty good yesterday. He said the media would be brought to tears by Obama’s ability to do “Silence” so well during a moment of silence.

portlandon on January 11, 2011 at 7:07 PM

you do realize that morris is a shameless liar, right?

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2011 at 7:03 PM

Really? I am open-minded. Show me .

CWforFreedom on January 11, 2011 at 7:07 PM

you do realize that morris is a shameless liar, right?

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2011 at 7:03 PM

Morris is a Shameless Liar now that he is a Republican. When he was a democrat you would be praising him and letting him play with your toes.

You’re so intellectually dishonest Sesquipedo.

portlandon on January 11, 2011 at 7:08 PM

Alright then the strategy is revealed.

Now how do we counter it.

Actually we need to bring it out into the open more.

That has worked fairly well on the Alinsky rules.

Once people can see what is going on they are less likely to fall for it.

petunia on January 11, 2011 at 7:09 PM

I’ll say this, the Big Dawg sure has some stones to put this out there; especially after his exploitation of the Oklahoma city bombing in the 90′s.

And I can’t believe I’m saying this, but, Stewart made an excellent observation regarding the conspiracy nuts and the “boogey-man” essentially going away when the eeeeevolll leader is deposed; as opposed to the reality of AQ’s presence, in the case of 9-11.

RocketmanBob on January 11, 2011 at 7:10 PM

Later, under the heading “How to use extremism as issue against Republicans,”

The reason the extremism card hasn’t worked against the tea party is because fiscal responsibility is mainstream common sense.

FloatingRock on January 11, 2011 at 7:10 PM

you do realize that morris is a shameless liar, right?

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2011 at 7:03 PM

Why else do you think the Clintons hired him? But as far as anything he has to say about those two; he’s more reliable than anyone.

darwin-t on January 11, 2011 at 7:11 PM

you do realize that morris is a shameless liar, right?

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2011 at 7:03 PM

Sammy the Bull was a scumbag but he still knew where the bodies were buried that brought down Gotti.

darwin-t on January 11, 2011 at 7:13 PM

Alright then the strategy is revealed.

Now how do we counter it.

Actually we need to bring it out into the open more.

That has worked fairly well on the Alinsky rules.

Once people can see what is going on they are less likely to fall for it.

petunia on January 11, 2011 at 7:09 PM

Conservative leaders needs to unite and call them out.

the_nile on January 11, 2011 at 7:14 PM

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2011 at 6:47 PM

So what part of the British Isles do you live in?

MadisonConservative on January 11, 2011 at 7:16 PM

Key West Reader on January 11, 2011 at 6:58 PM

That speech by John Stewart sounded like he was submitting an audition for Obama’s next speech, complete with uuuhhh’s and uuuummm’s.

I agree with you 100%. The last few days have been like a trip down the rabbit hole for your average American. I listen to boston talk radio (michael graham) and most of his callers are mystified that people are blaming tea party rhetoric for these shootings.

Your average MA resident is no gun-snuggling conservative. Heck among my friends I’d be considered a far-righty, but compared to many people here I’m probably in RINO territory.

Mord on January 11, 2011 at 7:18 PM

Really? I am open-minded. Show me .

CWforFreedom on January 11, 2011 at 7:07 PM

where to begin? no one in washington has such a well-documented trail of lies and hackery as morris.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2011 at 7:22 PM

One of the reasons I took to the internet, as far as politics is concerned, is because I wasn’t getting a lot out of the news. I haven’t watched the msm’s in over 2 years.

Internet, twitter, facebook, etc….are out there now. There’s a vast amount of information coming out daily, at a rapid pace. I’m getting more informed thanks to Hot Air, and other sites as well. Hot Air being the first I come to in the morning, and the last I leave at night. Not sucking up here. lol Just being honest.

I do try to view other sites, that aren’t necessarily conservative, but I remember things from the past, and these sites do not report it as it was, but as they want us to see it. So I value sites like this. I’m grateful for them, and I can’t help but hope that many more will too.

I do believe this is why the blame Palin mantra failed. To many are out here reading, looking, researching, and thinking for themselves. Which is a big plus.

This is why the liberals want to control the internet. They don’t control the way they know will work to their advantage, and they desperately want to get a hold on that. They want to control the narrative.

capejasmine on January 11, 2011 at 7:23 PM

Your average MA resident is no gun-snuggling conservative…
Mord on January 11, 2011 at 7:18 PM

Happiness is a warm gun. Who said that?

OkieDoc on January 11, 2011 at 7:24 PM

OkieDoc on January 11, 2011 at 7:24 PM

I had to google it, lol. The beatles, right? I didn’t mean gun-snuggling to be an insult, I was trying to make fun of Obama’s “clinger” speech. Sarcasm doesn’t translate through a keyboard unless you are very, very obvious about it, heh.

Mord on January 11, 2011 at 7:31 PM

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2011 at 7:22 PM

So you use Media Matters, (a known bunch of liars,) as proof that Morris is a Liar?

Priceless.

portlandon on January 11, 2011 at 7:33 PM

But as far as anything he has to say about those two; he’s more reliable than anyone.

darwin-t on January 11, 2011 at 7:11 PM

because his burning hatred for the clintons is clearly a non-factor. neither is his tendency to make clownish predictions.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2011 at 7:35 PM

So you use Media Matters, (a known bunch of liars,) as proof that Morris is a Liar?

Priceless.

portlandon on January 11, 2011 at 7:33 PM

that’s your winning argument? what does it matter who documented it? the video is there.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2011 at 7:36 PM

Mord on January 11, 2011 at 7:31 PM

Mord :)

OkieDoc on January 11, 2011 at 7:37 PM

So you use Media Matters, (a known bunch of liars,) as proof that Morris is a Liar?

Priceless.

portlandon on January 11, 2011 at 7:33 PM

Exactly what I was thinking. If Media Matters had a print issue, I wouldn’t trust the paper they used, as toilet paper.

I agree though, that Morris account of things looks weird, but I don’t think he was intentionally lying. I think he was remembering things wrong. In either case, Reno stayed on…when Bill wanted to fire her. I don’t think Bill or Hillary would have allowed that, had there not been some threat by Reno.

And you want lying? Bill looked straight into a camera, basically into every American watching, and lied to them about an affair. Sorry…but I trust Bill less than I do Morris. And that’s being generous.

I don’t dislike Morris, but I also don’t entirely trust him either.

capejasmine on January 11, 2011 at 7:37 PM

Bill Clinton: Political differences shouldn’t “degenerate into demonization”

You are absolutely correct Bill. Tell it to all your left wing pals!

GFW on January 11, 2011 at 7:39 PM

you do realize that morris is a shameless liar, right?

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2011 at 7:03 PM

Sometimes the irony is just so thick………..

tom on January 11, 2011 at 7:41 PM

“grammar”

/compulsive english teacher mode off

Midas on January 11, 2011 at 7:41 PM

where to begin? no one in washington has such a well-documented trail of lies and hackery as morris.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2011 at 7:22 PM

Maybe you need just a little more help with it. Talking about well-document trails of lies and hackery in Washington without mentioning, at the least, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and Al Gore, is … disingenuous.

Hillary’s record was bad enough that William Safire just gave up and wrote a column identifying her as a congenital liar. After which, Bill Clinton made some public comment about punching Safire in the nose — there’s your overheated rhetoric and “hackery” right there, since it was of course pretended outrage over what he very well knew were lies by Hillary.

And Al Gore was caught lying so often in the 2000 campaign that he became a punch line for comics everywhere.

But sure, let’s call Morris a liar. After all, you could hardly take his word over a paragon of virtue sleaze like Bill Clinton.

tom on January 11, 2011 at 7:48 PM

Sometimes the irony is just so thick………..

tom on January 11, 2011 at 7:41 PM

yeah, that too.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2011 at 7:50 PM

tom on January 11, 2011 at 7:48 PM

morris being a liar and a hack is a fact in an of itself. it’s not relative to the honesty of the clintons.

if you have a different candidate for the worst liar, fine. but you can’t deny morris has a strong claim.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2011 at 7:54 PM

Doe suggesting that Sarah Palin is culpable for the cold blooded murders committed by a deranged psychopath rate as “demonization”?

DeathB4Tyranny on January 11, 2011 at 7:56 PM

My how prophetic prophylactic. Only a non MSM person supressing attention deficit disorder would hear a hyprocrite saying: “Do as I say, not as I do.” Well played Slick.

Mark30339 on January 11, 2011 at 7:57 PM

This from the president with the “nuts and sluts” strategy.

At least he didn’t call the women “demons”.///

capitalist piglet on January 11, 2011 at 7:58 PM

Stewart makes a good point that occurred to me too over the weekend as a contributing factor to the “blame conservatives” narrative — namely, that it’s comforting to think rhetoric might have caused this because rhetoric is something under our individual control. That’s an undercurrent of 9/11 Truth too: If Bush blew up the towers, then the problem is solved once Bush is gone. But if it’s Al Qaeda, or a bug-eyed nut whose oddness extends only to strange theories about grammer until the day it takes a dark turn, oh boy. No control at all. Terrifying.

I’ve thought of this, too, but it doesn’t give the left any kind of pass in this at all. I don’t intend to sit here and accept their blood libel because they’re a bunch of children wetting their pants over the scary stuff in the world and trying to push the monsters back under their bunk beds. It’s time for the damn left in this country to grow the hell up. Our government simply cannot function if half of its members are operating at the level of a frightened toddler. The people pushing this narrative are not children. They are sick, sick adults who will likely never get better.

Rational Thought on January 11, 2011 at 8:02 PM

Wow.
Allahpundit giving props to Jon Stewart.
Never saw that coming./

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on January 11, 2011 at 8:04 PM

This isn’t 1995 and Obama is no Bill Clinton. This episode orchestrated by his cheerleaders and lapdogs might just put an end to his hopes of re-election and a second coat of shellack on his party in 2012.

Key West Reader on January 11, 2011 at 6:58 PM

Agreed – in 1995, Fox News didn’t exist, and those of us on-line were mostly on dial up. The SlickMeister is twice the man and politician Obama is (which isn’t saying much) and was able to fool enough people. Those days are over.

PatMac on January 11, 2011 at 8:04 PM

Well, no matter what kind of speech Obama gives at the memorial service, the media will enjoy a collective pantswetting at the statesmanship and empathy. I do hope he gives a decent one for the sake of the victims and their loved ones.

a capella on January 11, 2011 at 7:03 PM

Their reviews of tomorrow’s speech are already written – “Best Ever”, “He hit it out of the park”, “The Comeback Kid”, etc.

PatMac on January 11, 2011 at 8:08 PM

Remember this example of liberal civility?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQalRPQ8stI

The McCain march through the Upper West Side of NYC.

YehuditTX on January 11, 2011 at 8:12 PM

Have seen it all now since Clinton is the jerk that started all of this with the Murrah Bombing in OKC — always remember not to let a tragedy go to waste. Now he has the nerve to come out like this? He really doesn’t know when to keep his mouth SHUT!

This is beyond disgusting. Ever since Obama let him take over the press conference, he seems to be even worse and didn’t think that was possible.

What is with some of these politicians that have to comment about every little thing like everyone is waiting with baited breath to hear what they have to say. In this case a whole group of people would have better to say nothing at all until the facts came out and even then some should have kept their mouths shut and their ink dry. Detest grandstanders with a passion and Clinton is the Grandstander in Chief.

PhiKapMom on January 11, 2011 at 8:25 PM

Bill Clinton: Political differences shouldn’t “degenerate into demonization”

 
“If Latinos sit out the election instead of saying, ‘We’re gonna punish our enemies”
- President Barack H. Obama, 10/25/2010

rogerb on January 11, 2011 at 9:00 PM

Thanks to this tactic, we have liberals tweeting their desire to see Sarah Palin assassinated, while the media and the authorities yawn.

http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/toxic-rhetoric-twitter-users-want-sarah-palin-dead-media-yawns

jdawg on January 11, 2011 at 11:17 PM

Pot, kettle…Kettle, pot…

Gohawgs on January 12, 2011 at 12:36 AM

tom on January 11, 2011 at 7:48 PM

morris being a liar and a hack is a fact in an of itself. it’s not relative to the honesty of the clintons.

if you have a different candidate for the worst liar, fine. but you can’t deny morris has a strong claim.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2011 at 7:54 PM

If it’s Morris’s word against Clinton’s, then it comes down to the relative honesty of each.

There is utterly no reason to believe Clinton over Morris. And yet, that’s the only real evidence for your claim that Morris is a liar. Clinton’s lying — ironically enough, either Clinton — is far better documented.

tom on January 12, 2011 at 1:43 AM

The “day after” syndrome.

antisocial on January 12, 2011 at 1:57 AM

It’s nice to see Bubba working so diligently to undo all the hard work he put in after leaving office to rebuild his legacy. Like the man is waging a campaign against himself to make damned sure he loses.

Christien on January 12, 2011 at 2:28 AM

When you are a perjurer and a cheat you must try everything and anything to distract attention from yourself.

rplat on January 12, 2011 at 8:13 AM

This from the man that practically invented the “politics of personal destruction.” A man that had a “war room” and private detectives to squash any “bimbo eruptions.”
Bill Clinton is the Lonesome Rhodes of modern politics.

Bevan on January 12, 2011 at 8:13 AM

morris being a liar and a hack is a fact in an of itself. it’s not relative to the honesty of the clintons.

if you have a different candidate for the worst liar, fine. but you can’t deny morris has a strong claim.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2011 at 7:54 PM

I don’t know, Clinton was a lawyer who perjured himself while he was president in order to defeat a sexual harassment claim from when he was governor. He is pretty ethically dubius at best. I don’t think Morris is a font of honesty, but I wouldn’t trust anything Clinton ever had to say either.

Monkeytoe on January 12, 2011 at 8:37 AM

Morris is a political mercenary. He’s for whoever writes the biggest check.

Bevan on January 12, 2011 at 2:18 PM