WaPo: Loughner was a registered independent, didn’t vote this year

posted at 7:36 pm on January 10, 2011 by Allahpundit

For what it’s worth. A commenter in Headlines jokes, “Hey, isn’t Sarah Palin’s husband an independent?”

Loughner registered to vote on Sept. 29, 2006, identifying himself as an independent. Records show he voted in the 2006 and 2008 elections but is current listed as “inactive” on the state’s voter roles — meaning that he did not vote in November.

The political affiliations of Loughner, who is being charged by state and federal authorities with the shooting of Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D) as well as 19 other victims outside a Tucson grocery store on Saturday, have become the subject of a white-hot partisan debate in recent days…

Loughner’s decision to affiliate as an independent rather than a Republican or Democrat would seem to affirm the sense that while he targeted Giffords in the attack, it was not a decision born of a set of deeply held political beliefs that fit neatly into either party.

Yeah, go figure that a guy who spent the summer making nonsensical outbursts in class and answering questions on a math test with “Eat+Sleep+Brush Teeth=Math” wasn’t all that interested in the midterm elections. I know I’m boring you guys at this point with new evidence of just how unhinged Loughner was, but I can’t get over the contrast between the left straining to politicize him and the parade of friends insisting that they simply never knew Loughner to be political (apart from his Trutherism and unspecified “frustration” with Bush). His philosophy professor told Slate that he never brought up politics and that “His thoughts were unrelated to anything in our world.” And here’s the key passage from the must-read of the day in Mother Jones:

Loughner would occasionally mention Giffords, according to Tierney: “It wasn’t a day-in, day-out thing, but maybe once in a while, if Giffords did something that was ridiculous or passed some stupid law or did something stupid, he related that to people. But the thing I remember most is just that question. I don’t remember him stalking her or anything.” Tierney notes that Loughner did not display any specific political or ideological bent: “It wasn’t like he was in a certain party or went to rallies…It’s not like he’d go on political rants.” But Loughner did, according to Tierney, believe that government is “fucking us over.” He never heard Loughner vent about the perils of “currency,” as Loughner did on one YouTube video he created…

Since hearing of the rampage, Tierney has been trying to figure out why Loughner did what he allegedly did. “More chaos, maybe,” he says. “I think the reason he did it was mainly to just promote chaos. He wanted the media to freak out about this whole thing. He wanted exactly what’s happening. He wants all of that.” Tierney thinks that Loughner’s mindset was like the Joker in the most recent Batman movie: “He fucks things up to fuck shit up, there’s no rhyme or reason, he wants to watch the world burn. He probably wanted to take everyone out of their monotonous lives: ‘Another Saturday, going to go get groceries’—to take people out of these norms that he thought society had trapped us in.”

“He wanted exactly what’s happening.” Mollie Hemingway made the same point today on Twitter: “According to reports, Loughlin wanted chaos and for world to believe words have no meaning. MSM doing a very good job with that.” Indeed. To their credit, a few liberal pundits — Weigel, Jonathan Chait of TNR, Steve Kornacki of Salon — have gently suggested to their readers that perhaps the total lack of evidence of any ideological motive might be a reason not to lay the shootings at conservatives’ feet, but I’m more interested in proponents of the “climate of hate” theory. Help me figure this out: What is it, precisely, that makes prominent leftists think that grassroots liberals aren’t susceptible to incitement via a toxic political “climate” while grassroots conservatives, supposedly, are? Their argument usually comes back to the fact that there are no liberal media mega-stars to influence their base the way there are on the right a la Rush, Beck, etc, but Olbermann’s the most vitriolic liberal on TV and commands the biggest audience of any liberal on TV. (The biggest audience of any cable news star outside of Fox, I believe.) And clearly there’s a hearty appetite for demonizing conservatives among the lefty grassroots, as there’ll be for any strongly partisan group towards its opponents.

The response to that, I suppose, is that you rarely hear angry liberals make thinly veiled violent remarks like Sharron Angle did in warning about “Second Amendment solutions” (never mind that some violent radicals are either idolized on the left or else politely tolerated, even by future presidents of the United States). My point is, if the problem is demonization, why does it matter whether there’s an explicit (or thinly veiled) call for violence that accompanies it? Surely no one’s suggesting that a mind as crippled and supposedly susceptible to rhetorical influence as Loughner’s would be A-OK hearing “conservatives are racist” or “conservatives are violent” or “conservatives want to kill Gabrielle Giffords” 100 times a day, never thinking to go into attack mode unless that was immediately followed with “so let’s kill ‘em.” In fact, as far as we know, Loughner seized on Giffords as a hate object when she merely answered a question about language to his dissatisfaction. Which is to say, some diseased minds don’t need much prodding. And yet lefty media is suffused with assumptions about conservatives’ evil intent, from hating minorities to hating women to hating the poor to hating illegal immigrants to hating, well, everyone. What, supposedly, makes mentally ill grassroots liberals so innately disinclined to violence that there’s really no reason to worry about any of the stuff in Michelle’s post or the “Bush = Hitler” meme from Dubya’s second term or Olby saying things like “Fox News is worse than Al Qaeda”? Is there a special civility gene that kicks in to calm down a leftist with schizophrenia when he suddenly decides that he’s ready to snap? After the past two days, for Sarah Palin’s sake, I sure hope so.


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Hey, aren’t a majority of Tea Partiers Indys? I knew there was a connection! /sarc

flytier on January 10, 2011 at 8:34 PM

Over at Jammies site is a link to a page showing the douche registered as a dem.

Lummox on January 10, 2011 at 8:34 PM

The only vitriol I here comes from the Left wackjobs like Schultz and Olby. There the ones who are guilt of hate speech. I wonder if the left wants them silenced?

flytier on January 10, 2011 at 8:36 PM

The only vitriol I here comes from the Left wackjobs like Schultz and Olby. ThereThey’re the ones who are guilt of hate speech. I wonder if the left wants them silenced?

flytier on January 10, 2011 at 8:36 PM

My father, the English teacher is turning over in his grave right now.

flytier on January 10, 2011 at 8:37 PM

Indeed. Insanity’s going to be a tough plea given the apparent evidence of long term and methodical planning. Reminds me of this guy.

Grow Fins on January 10, 2011 at 8:37 PM

He deserves a life sentence just for having the world’s creepiest mug shot.

joejm65 on January 10, 2011 at 8:40 PM

The father, Randy, seems to be the real oddball. Neighbors call him creepy and aggressive. Doesn’t appear to be employed; no employment history can be unearthed by reporters. Likely too young to be retired.

Maybe it runs in the family.

slickwillie2001 on January 10, 2011 at 8:45 PM

Hey, aren’t a majority of Tea Partiers Indys? I knew there was a connection! /sarc

flytier on January 10, 2011 at 8:34 PM

I know journalists claim to be independent…

malclave on January 10, 2011 at 8:47 PM

Be advised!!(snark).

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 7:50 PM
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1-adam-12, be advised the suspect is armed with a high caliber snark.

Fighton03 on January 10, 2011 at 7:51 PM

Fighton03:)

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 9:12 PM

A 22 yr old skull full of mush, and the sad part is we will have to hear about this pathetic scum for years since the coward sick fu** didn’t get around to sparing us all a show-trial. Too bad he wasn’t military, only for the reason that a swift justice would be handed out, follow by a first class execution. I could care less what this demented pos’s political affiliation was. This was a tragedy and a shameful spectacle by our American media tripes with their embarrassing finger pointing.
Rovin on January 10, 2011 at 8:25 PM

abu Hassan was military and they sure aren’t doing sheet with him

wouldn’t want to upset THEM

Sonosam on January 10, 2011 at 9:20 PM

Somewhere in LA, a budding script writer is business typing up a screenplay that pins this on Palin, Bush, Limbaugh, et al. To be in theaters by election season 2012.

Midas on January 10, 2011 at 8:13 PM

…or Law and Order next week. The liberals at NBC would give this a top priority.

slickwillie2001 on January 10, 2011 at 9:23 PM

Wait a second, this mental case couldn’t even be bothered to symbolically go against his target by casting a vote against her?

What sort of a nutjob is he, anyways?

Oh, wait… he’s a space case… so sorry…

ajacksonian on January 10, 2011 at 9:26 PM

Guy looks too much like the Russian child killer of Rostov on don,

Chilitenko or something

though registered independent sour es say he was reregistering Democrat

Sonosam on January 10, 2011 at 7:55 PM

I don’t know, he looks more like the Son of Sam. :)

BL@KBIRD on January 10, 2011 at 9:27 PM

This is so sad, who cares if he is a registered independent,republican, or democrat. He obviously isn’t well,and he needed to be locked up years ago. People always try to make things like this the fault of one party or another and the truth is there are evil people in this world and there are mentally unstable people as well. We need to put the blame where it lies, at the feet of the perpetrator of this heinous crime.

mcplumbercuda on January 10, 2011 at 9:33 PM

People always try to make things like this the fault of one party or another and the truth is there are evil people in this world and there are mentally unstable people as well.

You are right. However, the left is trying to establish the narrative that Loughner was a Tea Partier influenced by Sarah Palin’s inciteful rhetoric.

So any evidence that comes to light that counters that narrative is important.

Missy on January 10, 2011 at 9:58 PM

Hey, aren’t a majority of Tea Partiers Indys? I knew there was a connection! /sarc

flytier on January 10, 2011 at 8:34 PM

Believe it or not, I saw some libturd seriously make this statement, earlier on a blog. Pathetic, isn’t it?

JannyMae on January 10, 2011 at 10:24 PM

Dude. That picture is creeping me out. Please…

mizflame98 on January 10, 2011 at 10:36 PM

That picture alone should have been enough for a police presence wherever he goes.

jeffn21 on January 10, 2011 at 10:39 PM

“Hey, isn’t Sarah Palin’s husband an independent?”

Hey, doesn’t Obama need independents to win in 2012?

What to say, what to do? Strange times, strange times…

Lefties and logic are not synonimous.

Schadenfreude on January 10, 2011 at 11:06 PM

Is that really Loughner? Is he into steroids, he sure looks like it.

jeanie on January 10, 2011 at 11:27 PM

Is that really Loughner? Is he into steroids, he sure looks like it.

jeanie on January 10, 2011 at 11:27 PM

‘Roid rage? I don’t think so, there would be other behavioral signs. I think he is high on fame right now.

slickwillie2001 on January 11, 2011 at 12:09 AM

One look at those eyes and that sneer tells us all we need to know: Lucifer is living rent-free inside his mind.

GGMac on January 11, 2011 at 12:12 AM

I SAID, I’M A LISTENER WHO IS READING…

Midas on January 10, 2011 at 8:15 PM

You don’t have to shout, I’m only deaf in one eye.

JetBoy on January 10, 2011 at 8:24 PM

DONE HEAR, HE CANT SHOUT YOU

Kenosha Kid on January 11, 2011 at 12:17 AM

Records show he voted in the 2006 and 2008 elections but is current listed as “inactive” on the state’s voter roles — meaning that he did not vote in November.

oh yeah, a tea-party’r for sure, hardly any of them voted last November

Dollayo on January 11, 2011 at 3:28 AM

Thank you WaPo. for confirming that this loon voted for Obama in 2008. Wonderful

shanimal on January 11, 2011 at 6:35 AM

RE: slickwillie2001:

The father, Randy, seems to be the real oddball. Neighbors call him creepy and aggressive. Doesn’t appear to be employed; no employment history can be unearthed by reporters. Likely too young to be retired.

Maybe it runs in the family.

It sure seems like a classic diagnosis of schizophrenia, which is indeed hereditary.

When I first saw the mug shot of Loughner, I didn’t even recognize him as the same person in the other photos. He is beyond creepy. (Yet, I can’t get the similarities to this out of my mind.)

Logic on January 11, 2011 at 6:57 AM

That’s one freaky deaky picture. It makes me want to throw up. It’s too bad his parents didn’t see a need to get him some help before this tragedy unfolded. Or perhaps if the police had acted responsibly to his threats of violence, this could have been avoided. Sounds to me like no one but a college professor and some friends took any action.

scalleywag on January 11, 2011 at 8:23 AM

Given that the guy’s a dead ringer for Uncle Fenster, mightn’t “The Addams Family” be responsible?

PersonFromPorlock on January 11, 2011 at 8:51 AM

His lawyer is smart. Shave the head and eyebrows, look insane and happy in the mugshot. Might be good enough for insanity plea. Hope not…..

adamsmith on January 11, 2011 at 10:42 AM

His lawyer is smart. Shave the head and eyebrows, look insane and happy in the mugshot. Might be good enough for insanity plea. Hope not…..

adamsmith on January 11, 2011 at 10:42 AM

I wonder; one of the articles on Loughner’s court appearance referred to his ‘freshly-shaved head’. Have any of the witnesses been asked if he looked like that on Sunday?

slickwillie2001 on January 11, 2011 at 12:23 PM

I blame all independents!

Oops. I think I just smeared myself.

1IDVET on January 11, 2011 at 3:40 PM

Loughner voted “independently” with bullets, while all those evil Tea Partiers voted with ballots.

Hey, we’re not greedy, we’ll settle for one ballot to a customer, as long as the Left does, but you’ve got to breathe to vote!

Steve Z on January 11, 2011 at 5:03 PM

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