Bob Kerrey: The health-care bill was one of the reasons Loughner was angry

posted at 4:52 pm on January 10, 2011 by Allahpundit

I know Ed mentioned it earlier but I think it deserves its own post. So random and haphazard is this that I can’t even tell if Kerrey means Loughner was angry about the original health-care bill that passed in March (i.e. the “rabid tea partier” narrative) or the repeal bill that the House will vote on next week (which Kerrey explicitly mentions here). Presumably it’s the former. There’s not a shred of evidence I know of to support his theory and Kerrey himself seems to breeze past it as if it’s an afterthought, quickly qualifying it by noting that Loughner’s obviously disturbed and that his politics aren’t of much significance. But maybe that’s the point — that we’ve now reached the point with this story where the facts are so tangential and egregious smears so casual that this bubbled up to his lips almost instinctively. The past two days have been the media equivalent of a 50-car pile-up, the “conservatives did it!” narrative crashing headlong into the fact of this guy’s apolitical madness over and over again. Sometimes, as Karl notes, it’s framed in a faux-objective way, sometimes it’s right in your face, other times it’s delivered without a scrap of irony by liberals who have themselves threatened to knock tea partiers’ teeth out. It’s too hard to stay on top of all of it, but here’s my favorite example from the past few hours — the chancellor of UC-Berkeley inducting himself into the self-parody hall of fame: .

Such a brutal and violent attack on an individual who has devoted herself to public service is deeply regrettable. It calls upon us as an academic community to stop and ponder the climate in which such an act can be contemplated, even by a mind that is profoundly disturbed. A climate in which demonization of others goes unchallenged and hateful speech is tolerated can lead to such a tragedy. I believe that it is not a coincidence that this tragedy has occurred in a state which has legislated discrimination against undocumented persons. This same mean-spirited xenophobia played a major role in the defeat of the Dream Act by our legislators in Washington, leaving many exceptionally talented and deserving young people, including our own undocumented students, painfully in limbo with regard to their futures in this country.

On our own campus, and throughout all the campuses of the University of California, we must continue to work toward a climate of equity and inclusion for all. We must be vigilant to condemn hate speech and acts of vandalism on our campuses by those wanting to promote enmity. We must work to support dialogue about our differences and eschew expressions of demonization of others, including virulent attacks on Israel, anti-Muslim graffiti, racism towards African-Americans, Chicano/Latinos and other underrepresented minority groups, and homophobic acts. Continuing to support our principles of community will ensure a better and safer campus. We must do this now so that our students, as future leaders of this great country, will continue to set the standard for a better and safer nation.

Italics his. Thus does a warning about not demonizing others segue instantly into accusations of “mean-spirited xenophobia” and a search for Loughner’s motive lead to hazy assertions about a political “climate.” This from a professional educator — whose background, if you can believe it, is in hard science. Proof is important in physics but not so much in life, I guess.

Kerrey seems ready to detour around the 50-car pile-up at the start of the clip, but then before you know it — bam. Ah well. Not the first time a center-left politician has talked out of his ass to blame political violence on opposition to ObamaCare, and surely not the last. George Will has an op-ed out today describing the left’s demagoguery of the shooting as a form of McCarthyism (“devoid of intellectual content, unsupported by data”), but my preferred cliche as I watched the coverage this weekend was Orwell. As a friend said on Twitter, when the Soviets framed someone for a political crime, at least they had the decency to plant some fake evidence to back it up. We’re actually past that point now, with analyses being written about the impact this will have on Sarah Palin’s political future even though there’s no evidence that Loughner was influenced by her in any way. When you’re building a theory of a murder to support your political agenda based on nothing, that’s not “news.” It’s propaganda. Click the image to watch.


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Hahahaha!!! This is his “The police acted stupidly” moment.

Moron.

csdeven on January 10, 2011 at 4:54 PM

http://thechollajumps.wordpress.com/2011/01/09/jared-loughner-is-a-product-of-sheriff-dupniks-office/

Geochelone on January 10, 2011 at 4:03 PM

Death threats are federally protected free speech. Crosshairs on Palin web ads are not. Bulls eyes on dailykos are.

It all makes sense now.

pedestrian on January 10, 2011 at 4:55 PM

When in doubt, blame Twinkies.

TexasJew on January 10, 2011 at 4:55 PM

Kerrey should know it’s crazy to rationalize the reasoning of a nut. About as rational as letting Clinton loose in a girls school.

viking01 on January 10, 2011 at 4:57 PM

When in doubt, blame Twinkies.

TexasJew on January 10, 2011 at 4:55 PM

Sarah Palin invented Twinkies.

steebo77 on January 10, 2011 at 4:57 PM

Good news!

The Pima County Sherrif demonizing talk radio Refused to take action against the shooter 5 separtate times because his mom worked for the county

Stay classy, Sherrif %*@¥ head!

Pasted from the bridge thread:

If any of what’s in this link is true, that sheriff is going to be looking up from the bottom of a deep well named karma.
http://thechollajumps.wordpress.com/2011/01/09/jared-loughner-is-a-product-of-sheriff-dupniks-office/

Geochelone on January 10, 2011 at 4:03 PM

picklesgap on January 10, 2011 at 4:57 PM

It’s propaganda.

Yes, and it has to be defeated.

the_nile on January 10, 2011 at 4:59 PM

When you’re building a theory of a murder to support your political agenda based on nothing, that’s not “news.” It’s propaganda.

and bullsh!t-flavored propaganda at that….

ted c on January 10, 2011 at 4:59 PM

Not the fact that he was crazy and probably needed powerful meds to keep him sane, if possible.

Oil Can on January 10, 2011 at 4:59 PM

We’re actually past that point now, with analyses being written about the impact this will have on Sarah Palin’s political future even though there’s no evidence that Loughner was influenced by her in any way. When you’re building a theory of a murder to support your political agenda based on nothing, that’s not “news.” It’s propaganda.

That about sums it up. One can expect that from the blogosphere and even MSDNC. But when virtually the entire so-called mainstream media starts piling on, they better make damn sure there’s at least something resembling a smoking gun to back up their smear campaign. At this point even the 9/11 truthers could make a more credible argument than the Loughner/Palin crowd.

Doughboy on January 10, 2011 at 5:00 PM

This entire country’s gone cuckoo bananas!

ronsfi on January 10, 2011 at 5:00 PM

This entire country’s gone cuckoo bananas!

ronsfi on January 10, 2011 at 5:00 PM

The left part.

the_nile on January 10, 2011 at 5:00 PM

picklesgap,
I have little doubt that this incompetent sheriff is too dumb to realize he was greasing the skids with his rotten behavior. More will come out.

rob verdi on January 10, 2011 at 5:01 PM

George Will has an op-ed out today describing the left’s demagoguery of the shooting as a form of McCarthyism (“devoid of intellectual content, unsupported by data”)

conversely, all claims, no evidence.

ted c on January 10, 2011 at 5:02 PM

All the Nebraska farmers who just elect this fool so they can keep getting Farm subsidies must really be proud. It’s about time conservative people of the Farm Belt states who keep electing Democrats start standing up for their core beliefs. Your subsidies won’t matter if the country go down the tubes.

Hummer53 on January 10, 2011 at 5:02 PM

picklesgap on January 10, 2011 at 4:57 PM

Yikes. I wonder if The Pima County Sherrif is going to attempt a cover up to hide his culpability. He might need Sandy Burglars shredder and socks.

Geochelone on January 10, 2011 at 5:03 PM

Kerry overestimates the importance of health care to a loon from outer space.

hachiban on January 10, 2011 at 5:03 PM

It wasn’t a reason; It was an excuse! Time to start blaming the criminals and stop blaming outside forces.

Tommy_G on January 10, 2011 at 5:03 PM

I remember the first time Bush finally won after the “hanging chads” Rush Limbaugh saying when Democrats lose elections look out! They get even crazier. I guess his point has been made…

sandee on January 10, 2011 at 5:03 PM

Man every time I hear bipartisanship all I have to do is think of this crap and say NO.

The left only cares about power and will lie, bully and Intimidate to regain it.

If the GOP doesnt start kicking back we deserve the punishment they get hammered with.

There is no doubt anymore the left has declared war on America unless it gets its way. This isnt the party of JFK anymore its the party of Hugo Chavez.

William Amos on January 10, 2011 at 5:04 PM

Okay, what is the causation narrative now?

This tragedy was caused by(Pick one)

Incivility
Guns
Sarah Palin
The reading of the Constitution
And now the repeal of Obamacare?

What will it be tomorrow? Global warming?

Insert witty screen name here on January 10, 2011 at 5:04 PM

We must work to support dialogue about our differences and eschew expressions of demonization of others, including virulent attacks on Israel

Uhhh, methinks some people on your side didn’t get the memo on this one, Champ.

Kataklysmic on January 10, 2011 at 5:04 PM

So who’s next to go on T.V. and worship at the Palin-Bashing Altar.

It seems like these people just can’t help themselves. It’s like a psychotic compulsion or something. It’s PBOCD. Palin Bashing Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.

What they need is a support group.

SlaveDog on January 10, 2011 at 5:04 PM

Hey Bob…. I hear Charles Manson was pretty incensed too…

Give him a call. You’ll be glad you did.

viking01 on January 10, 2011 at 5:05 PM

Proof is important in physics but not so much in life, I guess.

The mere possession of a PhD does not bestow “transferrable intelligence” from one narrow field onto the broader landscape of knowledge. This fella supports that theory right here.

ted c on January 10, 2011 at 5:05 PM

Here I thought Kerrey was one of the few sane Democrats left.

Silly me.

Who’s left?

JammieWearingFool on January 10, 2011 at 5:06 PM

As I have said before, The bulls of Pamploma have more discernment and decorum than a Democrat in full meme mode.

Lily on January 10, 2011 at 5:06 PM

Hey, what about Alec Baldwin, he’s a drug abusing liberal who advocated public death of Henry Hyde, I think he influenced and directly caused the Tuscon shootings.

joeindc44 on January 10, 2011 at 5:06 PM

Who’s left?

JammieWearingFool on January 10, 2011 at 5:06 PM

we’ve hit rock bottom and we’re starting to dig.

caveat. doug schoen and pat caddell.

ted c on January 10, 2011 at 5:07 PM

but my preferred cliche as I watched the coverage this weekend was Orwell.

The left thinks he wrote a manual.

the_nile on January 10, 2011 at 5:08 PM

at least they had the decency to plant some fake evidence to back it up.

This kid listened to Anti-Flag(whom I’ve known and hated for a long time) and yet this gets pegged on the TEA party… how ridiculous is that?

ninjapirate on January 10, 2011 at 5:08 PM

The bulls of Pamploma have more discernment and decorum than a Democrat in full meme mode.

Lily on January 10, 2011 at 5:06 PM

Is a Pamploma something you can get from wearing pampers for too long? /

ted c on January 10, 2011 at 5:08 PM

Sarah Palin uses a computer.
Lougher used a computer.

Therefore computers are Palin are to blame.

– MSM

angryed on January 10, 2011 at 5:09 PM

This isnt the party of JFK anymore its the party of Hugo Chavez.

I think it’s the party of Humpty Dumpty.

[“When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.”]

SlaveDog on January 10, 2011 at 5:10 PM

After hearing this, I called Boehner’s office in D.C. to offer my prayers and encouragement under what must be incredible pressure to forfeit the agenda that put the GOP in power to enact. This is as ghoulish of an attempt by Kerry to use the murder of Americans as a way to wedge space between the GOP and its legislative agenda as can be made. Disgusting. I told Boehner’s people as well as my own Representative in Texas, that they must pursue what we believe to be the proper role of government; that they must have strength; that they must be stoic in the face of the insanity that people like Kerry are espousing. Call your Reps. and Senators and encourage them. Let them know that they have your support. Let them know they’re not alone.

Weight of Glory on January 10, 2011 at 5:11 PM

What to make of it? This is intentional sound-biting.

We are LONG beyond the point of this just being some rabid-partisan point scoring.

It should be obvious to anyone that this is an ORCHESTRATED smear campaign being run by the DNC.

Get the meme out there, keep the meme out there, keep repeating the lie, everybody repeat the lie (you don’t even have to lie, just make the offhand association as an idle remark).

Alinsky tactics 101… now being run from central-kontrol in your government comrade.

This is NOT good government and only serves to further threaten our nation from the real issues at hand. UNEMPLOYMENT. A FAILING ECONOMY. SHUT DOWN OIL FIELDS. NATIONALIZATION OF INDUSTRY.

But what’s Obama and the dems out in front of? Speech control, Internet IDs, gun control, and getting to the bottom of who shot Gilford…

Skywise on January 10, 2011 at 5:11 PM

Re:Anti-Flag, it’s kind of ironic that he tried out for the military…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PynWTLeUJRA

ninjapirate on January 10, 2011 at 5:11 PM

Kerrey is wrong. I heard it was because the shooter once drank a Four Loko.

Rocks on January 10, 2011 at 5:11 PM

The Enemies Within.

blatantblue on January 10, 2011 at 5:11 PM

Continuing to support our principles of community will ensure a better and safer campus.

Oh, really? So, you’ll fire all of your campus police then.

ted c on January 10, 2011 at 5:12 PM

All the Nebraska farmers who just elect this fool so they can keep getting Farm subsidies must really be proud. It’s about time conservative people of the Farm Belt states who keep electing Democrats start standing up for their core beliefs. Your subsidies won’t matter if the country go down the tubes.

Hummer53 on January 10, 2011 at 5:02 PM

Uhhhm, Kerrey hasn’t been an elected official in NE for ten/fifteen years now.

OmahaConservative on January 10, 2011 at 5:16 PM

Kerry = Kerrey

Weight of Glory on January 10, 2011 at 5:16 PM

Paraphrased – “It time to stop the hateful discourse in our politics, but this blood is on the rightwingers hands.”

stldave on January 10, 2011 at 5:17 PM

Bob Kerry, even if the healthcare bill was responsible for upsetting this nutcase it is not a reason to commit murder. You, sir, need to take your government pensions and go away. You now add nothing positive to the national debate.

devolvingtowardsidiocracy on January 10, 2011 at 5:17 PM

Kerrey is wrong. I heard it was because the shooter once drank a Four Loko.

Rocks on January 10, 2011 at 5:11 PM

This kid is the byproduct of unhealthy school lunches, and toys in happy meals.

Lets write some laws.

portlandon on January 10, 2011 at 5:18 PM

“When you’re building a theory of a murder to support your political agenda based on nothing, that’s not “news.” It’s propaganda.”

Now Hiring: Political Ghouls

Please submit application and recent propaganda and misinformation to the Ministry of Information as soon as possible…

Seven Percent Solution on January 10, 2011 at 5:18 PM

I believe the UC Berkeleys school motto , translated from Latin is, “Freedom is Slavery”!

jjshaka on January 10, 2011 at 5:19 PM

Kerrey needs to retract his tie-in of OCare repeal with Jared’s actions.

GnuBreed on January 10, 2011 at 5:19 PM

Proof is important in physics but not so much in life, I guess.

Eh, not so important in science anymore either. You must believe humans are destroying the planet – then seek only data to corroborate this dogma.

swede7 on January 10, 2011 at 5:20 PM

If they think this will bury Palin, then they are dumber than I ever imagined they could be.

SouthernGent on January 10, 2011 at 5:20 PM

Subliminal Man

tomg51 on January 10, 2011 at 5:21 PM

Reading between the lines …

Such a brutal and violent attack on an individual who has devoted herself to public service is deeply regrettable.

We’re simply overjoyed that we can now use this to falsely accuse the right and especially Sarah Palin, of promoting violence! (even though we’re really the violent ones).

It calls upon us as an academic community to stop and ponder the climate in which such an act can be contemplated, even by a mind that is profoundly disturbed.

We’ll be able to call for hate speech laws, control of the internet and radio and finally shut down Fox News!!!!!

A climate in which demonization of others goes unchallenged and hateful speech is tolerated can lead to such a tragedy.

So get ready for Big Brother crawling so far up your a$$ you’ll beg us for government issue lube.

darwin on January 10, 2011 at 5:22 PM

Uhhhm, Kerrey hasn’t been an elected official in NE for ten/fifteen years now.

OmahaConservative on January 10, 2011 at 5:16 PM

He ‘retired’ from the senate in 2001. I knew he moved to NY while I was still living in San Diego.

OmahaConservative on January 10, 2011 at 5:22 PM

If they think this will bury Palin, then they are dumber than I ever imagined they could be.

SouthernGent on January 10, 2011 at 5:20 PM

I think they’re hoping all their accusations will push someone to do that literally.

darwin on January 10, 2011 at 5:23 PM

That’s a closet full of unwashed bullshirts.

Reports of the town hall meeting back in 2007 have Loughner asking Giffords some question about government in a world where words have no meaning. Giffords didn’t play into his delusion, and Loghner has held a grudge ever since.

Given the linguistic fascinations of Loughner, wouldn’t Noam Chomsky be more to blame than health care bills or Sarah Palin?

Sekhmet on January 10, 2011 at 5:23 PM

Get a load of this on ACE! Have I not been saying this?!

“Jared Loughner has been making death threats by phone to many people in Pima County including staff of Pima Community College, radio personalities and local bloggers. When Pima County Sheriff’s Office was informed, his deputies assured the victims that he was being well managed by the mental health system.
http://thechollajumps.wordpress.com/2011/01/09/jared-loughner-is-a-product-of-sheriff-dupniks-office/

The freaking mental health system strikes again!
We have ticking time bombs throughout America. People with severe mental illness’s have been forced out of the mental hospitals where they had a safe living environment and are now living alone semi-independently within our communities!
People with severe mental illness’s who fantasize about killing sprees, engage in criminal behaviors and are under the influence of severe hallucinations, paranoia and everything that goes with it!
This is what we need hearings on! This has got to be exposed!

JellyToast on January 10, 2011 at 5:25 PM

Thank God Obama blew his bullhorn moment. And how did he do that? By not standing up to this McCarthyism and saying we should treat this as we did Ft. Hood.

I actually was worried he’d do the right thing but fortunately, it’s too late now for that.

MaxMBJ on January 10, 2011 at 5:29 PM

“As we understand it, there have been law enforcement contacts with the individual where he made threats to kill,” Dupnik said during a press conference Saturday evening. But he wouldn’t say who those threats were aimed at.
I think someone needs to get copies of these records.

iceman1960 on January 10, 2011 at 5:31 PM

It’s interesting to watch our world develop right now having the Stalin experience behind us to gage things by. The Left loves Stalinistic tactics but, unlike 1930-1950 Soviet Union, they have to face pushback which they are now getting. It infuriates them.

And, it seems the pushback works, at least temporarily. They now realize they only have a window of about two days to screech their faux narrative out before the pushback occurs in full. And that’s just not enough time. Plus, they are finding themselves besmirched in their own feces. Delightful.

MaxMBJ on January 10, 2011 at 5:32 PM

Thank God Obama blew his bullhorn moment. And how did he do that? By not standing up to this McCarthyism and saying we should treat this as we did Ft. Hood.

I actually was worried he’d do the right thing but fortunately, it’s too late now for that.

MaxMBJ on January 10, 2011 at 5:29 PM

It takes a lot of careful thought before Obama can say something really stupid. Be patient.

SlaveDog on January 10, 2011 at 5:33 PM

So get ready for Big Brother crawling so far up your a$$ you’ll beg us for government issue lube.

darwin on January 10, 2011 at 5:22 PM

Not wanting to disagree with you on this, but if I were a betting woman, I would seriously consider that the Oppresives are going to try and use this “Crisis” to go after gun rights.

Sarah Palin may be a good “Target” (pardon the pun), but people are smart enough to realize that narrative is a load of horse-hockey.

An attack on everyone’s right of self defense is more of natural extension of the Left’s oppressive agenda.

Of course, they may be thinking big picture here, go after free-speech and attacking the 2nd amendment will be much easier down the road.

But we’ll all have to wait and see how the Left sorts out it’s priorities before actually see how they are going to use this serious crisis.

Chip on January 10, 2011 at 5:35 PM

“Jared Loughner has been making death threats by phone to many people in Pima County including staff of Pima Community College, radio personalities and local bloggers. When Pima County Sheriff’s Office was informed, his deputies assured the victims that he was being well managed by the mental health system.”

Oh my. If this is true, I suspect the sheriff will be in a big heap of doo-doo.

humdinger on January 10, 2011 at 5:37 PM

At first I was like…just ignore the looney toon leftards, they’re obviously deranged anyway. Then I think, heck no! This disgusting spew they are throwing around is so far and away abysmally pathetic, it needs to be remembered, and let their statements be repeated often, until they either retract and apologize or the media pushes them to clarify.

Yeah, I’m a dreamer…

JetBoy on January 10, 2011 at 5:37 PM

Hope this backfires on them like the Paul Wellstone memorial. Shameless.

Valiant on January 10, 2011 at 5:40 PM

O/T

Breaking: Report From Arizona Republic Said Loughner’s Family Had Refused to Allow FBI to Enter Home, Had Barricaded Themselves Inside; But FBI Just Convinced Them To Let Them In
—Ace

Over at Ace. No links though. I think Fox reported it.

Seems the whole family is certifiable.

Geochelone on January 10, 2011 at 5:40 PM

This kid is the byproduct of unhealthy school lunches, and toys in happy meals.

Lets write some laws.

portlandon on January 10, 2011 at 5:18 PM

don’t forget the flouride!

darwin-t on January 10, 2011 at 5:40 PM

Given the linguistic fascinations of Loughner, wouldn’t Noam Chomsky be more to blame than health care bills or Sarah Palin?

Sekhmet on January 10, 2011 at 5:23 PM

Isn’t an obsession with grammer and word structure one of the foundations of anarchists? An antistructural thingy?

a capella on January 10, 2011 at 5:41 PM

Orwellian is right.

Palin has become these scumbag’s Emmanuel Goldstein.

dave c on January 10, 2011 at 5:42 PM

Let me get this straight…

… The Pima County Sheriff’s Office knew Jared Loughner had been making death threats,

yet allowed him to walk freely around until he made good on said threats…

and the Left politicians and media are blaming Sarah Palin, the TEA Parties, and Conservatives in general…

I would think everyone should be asking the Pima County Sheriff why the hel% was Jared Loughner still walking around after making numerous death threats…!

Seven Percent Solution on January 10, 2011 at 5:43 PM

Oh my. If this is true, I suspect the sheriff will be in a big heap of doo-doo.

humdinger on January 10, 2011 at 5:37 PM

Particularly if LE followup had created documentation which would have prevented the shooter from gun purchase due to mental health issues.

a capella on January 10, 2011 at 5:44 PM

Isn’t an obsession with grammer and word structure one of the foundations of anarchists? An antistructural thingy?

a capella on January 10, 2011 at 5:41 PM

You might be on to something…

… Watch the tongue!

Seven Percent Solution on January 10, 2011 at 5:46 PM

I would think everyone should be asking the Pima County Sheriff why the hel% was Jared Loughner still walking around after making numerous death threats…!

Seven Percent Solution on January 10, 2011 at 5:43 PM

The most interesting possibility is that the Loughner’s were given special consideration by the Sheriff because the mother was a county employee. A check of email and phone records would show any connection.

slickwillie2001 on January 10, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Seven Percent Solution on January 10, 2011 at 5:43 PM

FBI needs to launch an investigation of the Sheriff and the Sheriff needs to be relieved of his duties effective immediately.

The Sheriff should NOT be allowed to participate in any aspect of information gathering on the case. He should not be allowed access to his own records. He is not to be trusted.

Geochelone on January 10, 2011 at 5:53 PM

It’s Monday and it’s already getting confused.

tarpon on January 10, 2011 at 5:55 PM

Isn’t an obsession with grammer and word structure one of the foundations of anarchists? An antistructural thingy?

a capella on January 10, 2011 at 5:41 PM

Hey, ya misspelled grammar. Damn! A blinking light just went on on Janet Incompetano’s desk. I’d better run….

viking01 on January 10, 2011 at 5:57 PM

Hey, what about Alec Baldwin, he’s a drug abusing liberal who advocated public death of Henry Hyde, I think he influenced and directly caused the Tuscon shootings.

joeindc44 on January 10, 2011 at 5:06 PM

Lib = hall pass; can and will be allowed to froth at the mouth pointing out the splinter in the conservative’s eye while the 8′ long 2×4 is sticking out of their own – and the media will turn to the conservative and say, “yeah, about that splinter – wtf is wrong with you anyway?”

Midas on January 10, 2011 at 5:59 PM

Our Governor Jerry Brown today suggests budget cuts for the UC system. Instead, it should be completely defunded.

GaltBlvnAtty on January 10, 2011 at 6:00 PM

FBI needs to launch an investigation of the Sheriff and the Sheriff needs to be relieved of his duties effective immediately.

The Sheriff should NOT be allowed to participate in any aspect of information gathering on the case. He should not be allowed access to his own records. He is not to be trusted.

Geochelone on January 10, 2011 at 5:53 PM

This. He’s way too involved and close to the case and the suspect’s history to be even remotely involved in any investigation. FBI needs to immediately get in there and seize any and all records.

Midas on January 10, 2011 at 6:01 PM

Oh my. If this is true, I suspect the sheriff will be in a big heap of doo-doo.

humdinger on January 10, 2011 at 5:37 PM

See, this is what happens in the mental health system. A MH individual can go out to a store and disrupt and threaten the customers. The police are called. When they arrive they discover the man has a MH diagnosis and is in “treatment.” The call MH services, his caseworker shows up and takes him home.
Time and time again I have seen this kind of thing happen. People who need institutionalized for their own safety allowed to walk the streets freely while under the influence of sever hallucinations, delusions and paranoia.
I am not talking about people with some depression problems or anxiety issues. I mean severe mental issues!

What is so sickening about this, it is very possible his caseworker and others within the MHMR system in Tuscon had heard him time and time again talk about killing the congresswoman! It is possible that they all had heard him talk of going on a killing spree, knew that he had guns and yet did nothing.
To be honest, it is not entirely the caseworker’s fault. It is the fault of the system. The system is set up to keep people out of institutions and keep them in the community. They are blind to he risks they are taking or imposing on the community. It is all about the bottom line! Money!
You have got to justify your budgets! And you can’t justify community living if your clients keep going to the hospital!

I am sorry to rant so much about this. But it is a serious problem we are ignoring!

JellyToast on January 10, 2011 at 6:02 PM

Sent a ‘contact us’ to the Berkley folks, congratulating the Chancellor on breaking speed records in jumping from 1) the decrying of the ‘demonization of others’ to 2) actual ‘demonization of others’.

Nicely done, Chancellor. Nicely done.

Midas on January 10, 2011 at 6:07 PM

We still don’t know whether this nut was angry at Obamacare or at the proposed repeal of Obamacare (or at neither) and why does it even matter? In one month this tragedy will be as politically sigificant as chick tracks in the mud.But biased reporters will be further exposed as this pycho’s left-wing leanings become copiously clear.

MaiDee on January 10, 2011 at 6:29 PM

Kerrey is an idiot.

The Berkley dude is too.

C’mon.

A climate in which demonization of others goes unchallenged and hateful speech is tolerated can lead to such a tragedy.

Really? So when Nancy accused Tea Partiers of carrying Nazi signs, that wasn’t hate? That wasn’t demonization? There are so many examples of this crap coming from the left. So anything more, coming from liberals on this issue, is devoid of any intelligence, or thought. When you can’t be genuine enough to recognize, that it can come from both sides, and in this case, came from no sides…and there is absolutely no proof it came from any side….then blow off. Because it means nothing anymore, when you can’t be honest enough to recognize, or admit…it’s coming from your side at an almost daily occurance.

capejasmine on January 10, 2011 at 6:54 PM

Death threats are federally protected free speech. Crosshairs on Palin web ads are not. Bulls eyes on dailykos are.

It all makes sense now.

Yep. And, meanwhile, Winston and Julia are in their rented hideaway above the antique shop, knowing they’ll be caught one day, just not quite sure when…

With this recent event in AZ, leftists (progressives?) have officially graduated from freaks to pods. And, the sooner this insanity reaches the ultimate breaking point, the better. I was never one to rail about pitchforks and torches and whatever, but I’m at the point now where I just don’t care if this whole country implodes. I have good memories of a better time, it doesn’t matter to me now if we have 100 years of riots. Anything would be better than dealing with these people day in and day out…

joejm65 on January 10, 2011 at 6:55 PM

Who gives a fig as to what he was angry about? By committing murder, he crossed the line and lost any argument he may have had.

OldEnglish on January 10, 2011 at 7:33 PM

Uuuuugh. I thought Nebraska had finally done away with Kerrey after he left for New York. But no, Omaha’s Bridge to Nowhere has to be named after him (however amusingly appropriate that may be…) and then he embarrasses us with these stupid statements–with “Nebraska” being attached to it. Thanks, Bob.

KellyBomelly on January 10, 2011 at 7:34 PM

Man, Bob Kerrey just won’t go away no matter how hard you wish he would!

pilamaye on January 10, 2011 at 8:51 PM

Loughner was into utopian and dystopian literature. I suppose Obamacare could fit in to either category.

njcommuter on January 10, 2011 at 9:00 PM

Sooo… does this mean the Healthcare Bill should be banned because it incites violence?

Neo-con Artist on January 10, 2011 at 9:18 PM

Proof is important in physics but not so much in life, I guess.

If this dude were a declared liberal the left would now claim “the poor chap’s past and whatever influenced him” and be against the death penalty. In no way would his politics be mentioned.

This horrific case’s reaction proves beyond a doubt that today’s Pravda is way more plausible than any media.

The sheriff is the biggest crook.

Schadenfreude on January 10, 2011 at 10:56 PM

with analyses accusations being written about to insure the impact this will have on Sarah Palin will have no political future even though there’s no evidence that Loughner was influenced by her in any way.

The “analyses” are part of the coordinated character assassination to bury her politically. They aren’t analyses, they’re wishlists.

YehuditTX on January 11, 2011 at 12:31 AM

I’d like to thank Kerrey for his service(Having a CMOH does count for something) and respectfully ask that he take his remarks and STUFF ‘EM!

annoyinglittletwerp on January 11, 2011 at 2:56 AM

This isn’t even propaganda because it lacks even the patina of truth. Propagandists take lies, blend them with half-truth, throws in some obfuscation, and then expertly deploys the result. This is the left desperately grasping at straws, terrified that their last best chance to destroy this country is slipping from their fingers.

leereyno on January 11, 2011 at 7:10 AM

So many fools. How can one keep count? Stupidity is blind to level of education, community leadership position, media status, or even if one is the winner of a prestigious international award. We as a nation re in deep trouble if the so-called intelligentsia and leadership of this country are this off the rails — and speaking as if they are making any valid point at all. What happened to the soul of this country?

mbabbitt on January 11, 2011 at 10:59 AM