The shame — and hypocrisy — of CNN

posted at 12:00 pm on January 9, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Yesterday’s horrific and senseless shooting of more than a dozen people in Tucson, including Representative Gabrielle Giffords, provided a look into the biases of much of the American media — and it was not just an ugly sight, but a shamefully hypocritical peek as well, as Byron York points out.  In the last public mass-murder shooting fourteen months ago at Fort Hood, the media spent the first few hours scolding anyone who suggested that it might be an act of terror or that Major Nidal Hasan’s religious beliefs might be relevant before every last fact was exposed:

“The important thing is for everyone not to jump to conclusions,” said retired Gen. Wesley Clark on CNN the night of the shootings.

“We cannot jump to conclusions,” said CNN’s Jane Velez-Mitchell that same evening. “We have to make sure that we do not jump to any conclusions whatsoever.”

“I’m on Pentagon chat room,” said former CIA operative Robert Baer on CNN, also the night of the shooting.  “Right now, there’s messages going back and forth, saying do not jump to the conclusion this had anything to do with Islam.”

The next day, President Obama underscored the rapidly-forming conventional wisdom when he told the country, “I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts.”  In the days that followed, CNN jouralists and guests repeatedly echoed the president’s remarks.

“We can’t jump to conclusions,” Army Gen. George Casey said on CNN November 8.  The next day, political analyst Mark Halperin urged a “transparent” investigation into the shootings “so the American people don’t jump to conclusions.”  And when Republican Rep. Pete Hoekstra, then the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, suggested that the Ft. Hood attack was terrorism, CNN’s John Roberts was quick to intervene.  “Now, President Obama has asked people to be very cautious here and to not jump to conclusions,” Roberts said to Hoekstra.  “By saying that you believe this is an act of terror, are you jumping to a conclusion?”

That, in fact, was good advice at the time.  In most of these cases, the shooter turns out to be so mentally ill that no particular rational motivation can be determined.  In the rare case where one can be found, rushing to that conclusion doesn’t make it any more or less true.  There is almost no upside in rushing to speculate in absence of any evidence or with uncertain anecdotal evidence except for potential bragging rights in case one manages to luck into the truth — or in scoring cheap attacks on political opponents through smearing them with blame.

But in this instance, as York notes, the same people who insisted in November 2009 that people should not rush to judgment about the potential connection of radical Islam to the Fort Hood shooting practically broke legs trying to tie an apparent paranoid schizophrenic who hailed Mein Kampf and The Communist Manifesto to Sarah Palin:

After reporting that Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik had condemned what Dupnik called “the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government,” CNN’s Wolf Blitzer turned to congressional reporter Jessica Yellin for analysis.  The sheriff “singled out some of the political rhetoric, as you point out, in creating the environment that allowed this kind of instance to happen,” Yellin told Blitzer.  “Even though, as you point out, this suspect is not cooperating with investigators, so we don’t know the motive.  President Obama also delivered that message, saying it’s partly the political rhetoric that led to this.  So that’s why we want to bring up one of the themes that’s burning up the social media right now.  On Twitter and Facebook, there is a lot of talk, in particular, about Sarah Palin.  As you might recall, back in March of last year, when the health care vote was coming to the floor of the House and this was all heating up, Palin tweeted out a message on Twitter saying ‘common sense conservatives, don’t retreat — instead reload.’  And she referred folks to her Facebook page.  On that Facebook page was a list of Democratic members she was putting in crosshairs, and Gabrielle Giffords was one of those in the crosshairs.”

And as has been repeatedly pointed out in the hours since, Democrats have also used crosshairs and bulls-eye imagery in their own political communications, including one in Arizona “targeting” J. D Hayworth of Arizona.  As far as the “reload” comment, it was less than three years ago that Barack Obama himself talked about responding to political opponents with a gun analogy:

Mobster wisdom tells us never to bring a knife to a gun fight. But what does political wisdom say about bringing a gun to a knife fight?

That’s exactly what Barack Obama said he would do to counter Republican attacks “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama said at a Philadelphia fundraiser Friday night. “Because from what I understand folks in Philly like a good brawl. I’ve seen Eagles fans.”

The comment drew some laughs and applause. But it also struck a chord with his Republican rival. John McCain’s campaign immediately accused the Democratic candidate of playing the politics of fear. They also mentioned that Obama said he would use a gun that would be illegal under Obama’s plans to cut down on illegal firearms.

Getting hysterical about the use of war terminology in politics is about as hypocritical as one can possibly get, as Howard Kurtz explained yesterday, especially for journalists covering politics:

But is it now fair for the rest of us to tie Palin to the accused gunman, Jared Lee Loughner?

Let’s be honest: Journalists often use military terminology in describing campaigns. We talk about the air war, the bombshells, targeting politicians, knocking them off, candidates returning fire or being out of ammunition. So we shouldn’t act shocked when politicians do the same thing. Obviously, Palin should have used dots or asterisks on her map. But does anyone seriously believe she was trying to incite violence?

Palin seemed to pull back in a subsequent campaign appearance for her former running mate, John McCain. “We know violence isn’t the answer,” she said. “When we take up our arms, we’re talking about our vote.”

It was the Clinton campaign that popularized the term “war room” for the rapid-response team they formed in 1992.  Should we blame Clinton for all subsequent wars, too?  CNN calls its political-news show the “Situation Room,” after the actual national-security response facility in the White House.  Maybe we should blame CNN for inciting wars and violence, too, using their logic?

Getting back to York’s litany of examples, CNN clearly didn’t inadvertently cross the line once, but repeatedly kept insisting on a link between the shooting and political activism on the Right, especially Palin’s:

“But the question is, is there any evidence that the suspected shooter in this particular case was a Sarah Palin fan, read Sarah Palin’s website, was a member on Facebook, watched her tweets, or anything like that?” [Wolf Blitzer asked.]

“None at all,” Yellin responded.  “And there is no evidence that this was even inspired by rage over health care, broadly.  So there is no overt connection between Sarah Palin, health care, and the [shootings].”

Indeed, there is no “overt” or any other sort of connection between Loughner and Palin. If such evidence came to light, it would certainly be news.  But without that evidence, and after a brief caveat, the CNN group went back to discussing the theory that Loughner acted out of rage inspired by Palin and other Republicans.  Conclusions were jumped to all around.

Not just on CNN, either, but CNN holds itself out as an unbiased, middle-road news source that people of all political stripes can trust.  Instead, they demonstrated their hostility by taking shots at the Right and Palin through the exploitation of a tragedy and horror that no one understood and for which no evidence existed to suggest any link at all.  We expect that on Twitter, where people on both sides of the political divide wrote things they will (or should) regret later.   CNN owes everyone an apology for their nasty, hysterical, and biased coverage in the aftermath of the shooting yesterday, perhaps especially Sarah Palin.

The rest of us need to focus our attention on continued prayers and support for the victims of the shooting, the families of the deceased, and for the recovery of the rest, especially Representative Gabrielle Giffords, who got shot doing the public service entrusted to her by her constituents.

Update: Contra David Frum, I don’t see this as a particular moment to reflect on “extreme political rhetoric,” since there’s nothing to connect political rhetoric from either side of the political spectrum to this crime.  I wouldn’t even call for reflection on the continued sales of Mein Kampf or The Communist Manifesto, even though the suspect credits both of these as among his favorites, as they have no causal connection to the actions of a lunatic.  Perhaps, though, this is a good moment to reflect on those who rush to exploit tragedy in an attempt to bully political activists into silence.

The time to criticize “extreme political rhetoric” is when it occurs, and making sure that the people making the accusations aren’t just as culpable as those they attempt to indict.


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They can not be allowed to get away with this, nor ever again!

Seven Percent Solution on January 9, 2011 at 4:54 PM

Amen… Much work to do.

Keemo on January 9, 2011 at 5:10 PM

Why oh why did I follow that link to DU…

Are those people posting things from outside of institutions?

Good grief…

Inanemergencydial on January 9, 2011 at 5:12 PM

Here’s an important historic reminder of how the Left, with the assistance of Democrats and the media, habitually blame “right wing conspiracies” for things perpetrated by their own: Lee Harvey Oswald. This is a fascinating read – may I suggest you bookmark it to read later if you don’t have the time now.

Buy Danish on January 9, 2011 at 5:27 PM

Our former congressman Bob Inglis, got on the local news last night and was blaming “talk radio” for inciting this. His hope was that we could all be “democrats for Gabby” during this time.

Just pathetic.

starman on January 9, 2011 at 5:30 PM

It doesn’t explain why target Giffords, except he had a letter from her in a safe in his room dated back in 2007. Sarah Palin didn’t come on the political scene until Summer of 2008. The Tea Party did not start forming until 2009.

But the …MSM doesn’t care – it’s got to be right wingers fault.

According to court documents released today, authorities discovered a safe in Loughner’s home with a thank you letter from Giffords for attending a Congress on Your Corner event in 2007 — the same kind of event Loughner allegedly assaulted Saturday. Another envelope said “I planned ahead,” “My assassination” and “Giffords” and bofe what appears to be Loughner’s signature, the documents said.

New MSM narrative since he wasn’t a right winger oh he’s just nuts.

Dr Evil on January 9, 2011 at 5:30 PM

New MSM narrative since he wasn’t a right winger oh he’s just nuts.

Dr Evil on January 9, 2011 at 5:30 PM

ding ding ding, however, they will still harp on right wing rhetoric blah, blah, blah, with no mention of left wing hate filled spew

cmsinaz on January 9, 2011 at 5:33 PM

Question: Other than the 25 people who frequent the Frum Forum, Allah and Ed, does anyone care what David Frum thinks or says?

bw222 on January 9, 2011 at 5:36 PM

If the left truely wants to shut down hatefull speach then maybe they should start with DailyKos, Democractic Underground and Huffington Post as well as a few select liberal commentators (Krug and Olbermann)

Show us how serious you are about this issue by cleaning your own sewer first.

William Amos on January 9, 2011 at 5:37 PM

New MSM narrative since he wasn’t a right winger oh he’s just nuts.
Dr Evil on January 9, 2011 at 5:30 PM

Isn’t the narrative that talk radio drove him nuts? Of course the Sheriff of Pima County admitted to Megyn Kelly that he has zero evidence that he actually listened to talk radio, but why let facts get in the way?

Buy Danish on January 9, 2011 at 5:37 PM

Our former congressman Bob Inglis, got on the local news last night and was blaming “talk radio” for inciting this. His hope was that we could all be “democrats for Gabby” during this time.

Just pathetic.

starman on January 9, 2011 at 5:30 PM

That was done by Dupnik as well. They want to start the conversation about the fairness doctrine again. As long as people like Rush are around they can’t control the message. Look how they’re losing it already…

Equality 7-2521 on January 9, 2011 at 5:38 PM

Our former congressman Bob Inglis, got on the local news last night and was blaming “talk radio” for inciting this. His hope was that we could all be “democrats for Gabby” during this time.

Just pathetic.

starman on January 9, 2011 at 5:30 PM

Hopefully somebody is keeping track of all such examples. It would be nice if you could check and see if that specific instance has been submitted, and if not, add it yourself. There could be a confirmation option for you confirm or amend the example. The more video or other evidence a specific example has, the higher it’s prominence.

If nobody is doing that already, perhaps we should be, but not necessarily: perhaps publicizing the most egregious abuses or repeating them in places like this and to family and friends is all that really matters.

FloatingRock on January 9, 2011 at 5:42 PM

Nevermind the murderer was a leftist who loved The Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf. Never mind that The shot congresswoman had sent a letter to the shooter before the shooting actually thanking him. Just forget those things, it was Sarah and the tea party! The lame stream media have their story and facts won’t change it.

Dollayo on January 9, 2011 at 5:46 PM

On the other hand, having a long list to point to, of examples of such heinous media bias that it resembles blood-libel, could punctuate the argument.

FloatingRock on January 9, 2011 at 5:46 PM

starman on January 9, 2011 at 5:30 PM

Oh and btw – Don’t know if you wasted your time or not but Geraldo basically laid this at Palin’s feet last night along with trying to cast some blame on Giffords opponent Jesse Kelly. What a guy.

Equality 7-2521 on January 9, 2011 at 5:47 PM

For Liberals to so readily attempt to use an unspeakable tragedy in order to further their personal and ideological ambitions is beyond classless. There should be apologies posted all over the internet today from the Liberal so-called pundits posting from their Moms’ basements.

However, I’m not going to hold my breath waiting for them.

kingsjester on January 9, 2011 at 5:47 PM

I find the intense focus on the Teaparty as causing this to be completely inexplicable. And how this relates to Palin is truly irrational, as though she really is even the type to incite violence.

I honestly don’t get it.

AnninCA on January 9, 2011 at 5:53 PM

This would be unbelievable were it not CNN…

OmahaConservative on January 9, 2011 at 5:53 PM

I honestly don’t get it.

AnninCA on January 9, 2011 at 5:53 PM

Yes you do. It’s hatred. And more so, their best attempt to spread it like wild-fire. It has happened before so many times throughout history, it’s ridiculous.

FloatingRock on January 9, 2011 at 5:55 PM

However, I’m not going to hold my breath waiting for them.

kingsjester on January 9, 2011 at 5:47 PM

Nice piece KJ…

Keemo on January 9, 2011 at 5:57 PM

I find the intense focus on the Teaparty as causing this to be completely inexplicable. And how this relates to Palin is truly irrational, as though she really is even the type to incite violence.

I honestly don’t get it.

AnninCA on January 9, 2011 at 5:53 PM

This is how leftist governments work all around the world. You really need to realize that the democrats are not democrats.

darwin on January 9, 2011 at 5:58 PM

I honestly don’t get it.

AnninCA on January 9, 2011 at 5:53 PM

This is the Lefts attempt to utterly destroy people like all of us here for something we have nothing whatsoever to do with, not in the remotest way.

FloatingRock on January 9, 2011 at 5:58 PM

Keemo on January 9, 2011 at 5:57 PM

Thank you. Seeing a picture of that precious little girl made it very difficult to write.

kingsjester on January 9, 2011 at 5:59 PM

I honestly don’t get it.

AnninCA on January 9, 2011 at 5:53 PM

You know when we all talk about Rules for Radicals and Cloward/Pivon and all of the other stuff you roll your eyes at? Stop rolling your eyes and start using them to look.

FloatingRock on January 9, 2011 at 6:00 PM

(I am still having a hard time controlling my rage)

Seven Percent Solution on January 9, 2011 at 4:17 PM

with you there my friend…

cmsinaz on January 9, 2011 at 4:20 PM

I was telling my husband on our way to church what is going on and he said something to me that made me feel a lot better he said, “Honey remember there is a God” meaning that God is in control and what he allows he allows for a reason but He will never abandon us and in the end God is going to send evil to hell… literally.

Then the sermon today mentioned 2 Kings 6:8-23 where the King of Aram sends horses adn chariots and a strong force to capture Elisha who was always thwarting him and warning the King of Israel against his plots. His servant looks out of his tent and see that they are outnumbered and panics and Elisha doesn’t. Elisha tells his servant “Those who are with us are more than those who are with them” He prays to God to open the eyes of his servant so that he will see that they are not alone and God does. The servant sees the hills full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha.

God is with us and we aren’t defeated. We have to have faith and we have to act with that faith in a manner in which God will work with us. I feel a lot better now remembering this. Our God, the one and only true and living God, is not mocked and no human plan of evil can thwart Him. Those of us with Him will in the end, no matter how much we suffer in between now and then, be okay.

CCRWM on January 9, 2011 at 6:04 PM

This is the Lefts attempt to utterly destroy people like all of us here for something we have nothing whatsoever to do with, not in the remotest way.

FloatingRock on January 9, 2011 at 5:58 PM

I exchange with alot of the Left on Huff. I can tell they honestly believe that Sarah Palin incited this.

It’s authentic. It’s like the sherrif. He believes it, too.

What I cannot fathom is how they can believe this. I remember when Obama said, “If they bring a knife to the fight, then we’ll bring a gun.”

I didn’t think he was actually telling supporters to bring guns. How can people be this crazy just because someone doesn’t agree with them on politics?

I used to totally enjoy talking politics with my super-conservative friends. We’d go to Chinese every week and totally trash one another, but it was in good fun. From what I’m seeing? These people take politics entirely too seriously.

AnninCA on January 9, 2011 at 6:05 PM


I honestly don’t get it.

AnninCA on January 9, 2011 at 5:53 PM

You know when we all talk about Rules for Radicals and Cloward/Pivon and all of the other stuff you roll your eyes at? Stop rolling your eyes and start using them to look.

FloatingRock on January 9, 2011 at 6:00 PM

FloatingRock: Honesty and AnninCa haven’t met. At least not on this site.

tigerlily on January 9, 2011 at 6:06 PM

CCRWM on January 9, 2011 at 6:04 PM

thank you…

cmsinaz on January 9, 2011 at 6:07 PM

Question: Other than the 25 people who frequent the Frum Forum, Allah and Ed, does anyone care what David Frum thinks or says?

bw222 on January 9, 2011 at 5:36 PM

I have never linked to one of his articles. or Noonan’s or Brooks or M McCain’s… to name oa few…

CCRWM on January 9, 2011 at 6:08 PM

Del Dolemonte on January 9, 2011 at 4:51 PM

love nb :)

cmsinaz on January 9, 2011 at 5:06 PM

Same here. In fact, I started posting there, at Ed’s Captain’s Quarters, and at Power Line all about the same time (late 2006).

Sadly, I had to stop posting on Newsbusters in about 2008, when they added an obscene amount of bells and whistles to their site, making it glacially slow on dialup, which is something I am forced to use solely because of government regulations sponsored by Leftists.

I live in a neighborhood that has a 10 acre minimum lot size, which was enacted in 1977 after lengthy lobbying by the tree huggers in town. As a result, the town’s cable franchise holder had absolutely no interest in spending the dough to wire our part of town, as there are simply not enough houses per road-mile to make it economically possible.

And I can’t get cable from out telephone company-Verizon sold their entire northern New England phone network to a bunch of grifters out of the Carolinas called “Fairpoint Communications”. Within a year of this, Fairpoint filed for bankruptcy. They are an absolute joke up here.

I can only skim the Newsbuster page briefly, because it will slow down every other process running on my system, which has the horsepower but can’t use it, because the connection speed is 45.2 kbps!

Del Dolemonte on January 9, 2011 at 6:08 PM

Palin had to actually issue something about her crosshairs on the map, deal.

That is ridiculous.

AnninCA on January 9, 2011 at 6:10 PM

What I cannot fathom is how they can believe this.

AnninCA on January 9, 2011 at 6:05 PM

Probably for the same reason that you get along with people here as well as you do, you’re not a hater. Many on the Left are. They are irrational because they are consumed by hate.

FloatingRock on January 9, 2011 at 6:10 PM

Here’s an important historic reminder of how the Left, with the assistance of Democrats and the media, habitually blame “right wing conspiracies” for things perpetrated by their own: Lee Harvey Oswald. This is a fascinating read – may I suggest you bookmark it to read later if you don’t have the time now.

Buy Danish on January 9, 2011 at 5:27 PM

LOL, is Altitude Lew still dating Cindy Sheehan, or did he toss her overboard too?

Del Dolemonte on January 9, 2011 at 6:11 PM

Del Dolemonte on January 9, 2011 at 6:08 PM

yowser….hang in there my friend…glad you are a part of the HA crew :)

cmsinaz on January 9, 2011 at 6:11 PM

Del Dolemonte on January 9, 2011 at 6:08 PM

Will using Firefox with “no ads” plug-in help speed up your browsing? I started using it about a year ago and everything now loads much faster.

Knucklehead on January 9, 2011 at 6:12 PM

What I cannot fathom is how they can believe this.

AnninCA on January 9, 2011 at 6:05 PM

In addition to being consumed by hate, many of them are also simply exploiting this opportunity for their political ends. You may not think they are aware of this but most of them are subconsciously. Otherwise they are probably technically insane, which I don’t beleive. They are not consumed by hate so much as they are exploiting it for their political ends.

That’s why they try so hard to spread their hatred to others through a complicit media.

FloatingRock on January 9, 2011 at 6:13 PM

thank you…

cmsinaz on January 9, 2011 at 6:07 PM

:) I was getting prety upset too…now I’m refocused and motivated to do something… through my TEA Party I think…

CCRWM on January 9, 2011 at 6:13 PM

Del Dolemonte on January 9, 2011 at 6:08 PM

Use your cell phone as a wireless hotspot. Good for up to five high(ish) speed connections.

Inanemergencydial on January 9, 2011 at 6:14 PM

CCRWM on January 9, 2011 at 6:13 PM

sounds like a plan :)

cmsinaz on January 9, 2011 at 6:14 PM

Probably for the same reason that you get along with people here as well as you do, you’re not a hater. Many on the Left are. They are irrational because they are consumed by hate.

FloatingRock on January 9, 2011 at 6:10 PM

What’s scary and ironic? They sound a bit like the shooter at times. I mean, they honestly believe conservatives are all redneck and dumb.

But you’re probably right. I only get riled up when it’s gross kind of racism or other isms. That type of stuff rubs me the wrong way.

AnninCA on January 9, 2011 at 6:14 PM

Del Dolemonte on January 9, 2011 at 6:08 PM

Boy oh, boy. It’s a good thing that the Leftists and grifters that destroyed your ability to communicate with 21st century technology aren’t destroying every aspect of the nation from the most powerful Office on earth. Wait, what??

tigerlily on January 9, 2011 at 6:15 PM

In addition to being consumed by hate, many of them are also simply exploiting this opportunity for their political ends. You may not think they are aware of this but most of them are subconsciously. Otherwise they are probably technically insane, which I don’t beleive. They are not consumed by hate so much as they are exploiting it for their political ends.

That’s why they try so hard to spread their hatred to others through a complicit media.

FloatingRock on January 9, 2011 at 6:13 PM

I do believe that’s true of the pundits. But it’s mostly for money, I think.

Pundits used to be valued because they had the ability to get beyond their own personal beliefs and see the overview. Not today, apparently.

AnninCA on January 9, 2011 at 6:16 PM

As long as people like Rush are around they can’t control the message. Look how they’re losing it already…

Equality 7-2521 on January 9, 2011 at 5:38 PM

You give Rush too much power. He was around in 2006 and 2008, but couldn’t prevent the Republicans from losing both of those elections. I’m sure he helped the Republicans win in 2010, but he really didn’t need to do any heavy lifting, because everyone could see how FUBAR O’bama and the rest of the Dems had become.

Del Dolemonte on January 9, 2011 at 6:16 PM

Use your cell phone as a wireless hotspot. Good for up to five high(ish) speed connections.

Inanemergencydial on January 9, 2011 at 6:14 PM

I have been thinking of doing that, actually. However, given the Democrats’ absolute trashing of the American economy over the past 4 years, sad to say it’s an unnecessary expense at this time for me.

Del Dolemonte on January 9, 2011 at 6:20 PM

FloatingRock: Honesty and AnninCa haven’t met. At least not on this site.

tigerlily on January 9, 2011 at 6:06 PM

No, I know about her even though I skip a lot of the Ann related sub-threads. My point is that she doesn’t just come here to express her hate by throwing bombs but actually engages in conversation, even if we disagree and get frustrated.

Arguing with Ann is a good way for people to practice, too.

FloatingRock on January 9, 2011 at 6:20 PM

Del Dolemonte on January 9, 2011 at 6:08 PM

Will using Firefox with “no ads” plug-in help speed up your browsing? I started using it about a year ago and everything now loads much faster.

Knucklehead on January 9, 2011 at 6:12 PM

Yes, and in extreme cases like yours you can also use ‘NoScript’ to allow scripts to run or not on a custom basis. On a typical Newsbusters article there are eight to ten scripts that want to run, but the only one you really need is newsbusters.org for password function, for example.

slickwillie2001 on January 9, 2011 at 6:21 PM

I’m honest. That’s unfair. I honestly disagree sometimes, but I keep it honest. Otherwise, it wouldn’t be fun.

AnninCA on January 9, 2011 at 6:23 PM

Pundits used to be valued because they had the ability to get beyond their own personal beliefs and see the overview. Not today, apparently.

AnninCA on January 9, 2011 at 6:16 PM

And now they are exploiting mass murder to further their political aims. Despicable, isn’t it?

That’s why they have lost credibility and are no longer the force they once were.

FloatingRock on January 9, 2011 at 6:24 PM

I’m honest. That’s unfair. I honestly disagree sometimes, but I keep it honest. Otherwise, it wouldn’t be fun.

AnninCA on January 9, 2011 at 6:23 PM

I. Don’t. Believe. You.

OmahaConservative on January 9, 2011 at 6:26 PM

I’m honest. That’s unfair. I honestly disagree sometimes, but I keep it honest. Otherwise, it wouldn’t be fun.

AnninCA on January 9, 2011 at 6:23 PM

You honest? And I’m Greta Garbo!

Knucklehead on January 9, 2011 at 6:28 PM

Del Dolemonte on January 9, 2011 at 6:16 PM

Who is the media constantly quoting? When someone mentions “Talk Radio” who do you think of? Rush has the most listened to conservative program in the country. I’m not trying to say he has the power to sway elections, but when a congressman like Inglis mentions TR as the problem, you know who he wants to silence.

Equality 7-2521 on January 9, 2011 at 6:30 PM

Knucklehead on January 9, 2011 at 6:28 PM

Heh…
HEY!, darlin’

OmahaConservative on January 9, 2011 at 6:31 PM

How the American public will react to this event will determine how free/smart or manipulated/dumb the people are.

The biggest scumbag is the sheriff. After him the media and a few politicians. The liberal gnats are what they always are.

Schadenfreude on January 9, 2011 at 6:31 PM

A letter from Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords found in the safe of the home of accused gunman Jared Loughner thanks him for attending a 2007 “Congress on your Corner” event.
Handwriting on an envelope said, “I planned ahead” and “My assassination.”
It contained Giffords’ name, along with what appeared to be Loughner’s signature.

Sarah Palin obviously planted this note in Loughner’s safe.

Jocundus on January 9, 2011 at 6:35 PM

this is a good moment to reflect on those who rush to exploit tragedy in an attempt to bully political activists into silence.

Excellent point. The left, having lost the election, is simply exploiting this tragedy, trying to gain some sort of power back by bullying their opponents into silence.

Right on the money.

American Elephant on January 9, 2011 at 6:35 PM

jon1979 on January 9, 2011 at 2:58 PM

My very first thought after the shock and outrage, was that the MSM would have 48 hours to scream about teaparty hatred before the cavalry (Limbaugh, Beck, etal)could totally debunk, which I am confident they will.
As to who commented shortly after jon’s post @2:58 that this was just, “Preaching to the choir…” Ah, not so much anymore Grasshopper…the other side is forced to listen to our side now so they can formulate their lieing responses to the logic our side presents in an argument…it is actually one of my favorite things to watch them do. Very entertaining.

Here’s something O/T, that just occured to me. I had typed a fairly cliche-ish sentance that many of us have used as a rhetorical reference to liberals going nuts when we refute their illogical rants. The word, or a form of the word, “explode” is in it. I realized as soon as I typed it how completely inappropriate the remark was…though believe me, I didn’t intend that, so it was immediately changed.

My point is this: none of us have used that analogy. Which is just further evidence to me that I’m on the side of the good guys: y’all! (Or, er that the H/A filter is working overtime…I prefer to think it’s the former, instead.)

Chewy the Lab on January 9, 2011 at 6:37 PM

Since I haven’t read through this thread yet, pardon me if this info has already posted and/or debunked: someone has a Facebook page (you need to be a member to view it) with supposed screenshots from Loughner’s Facebook page before it was taken down. If it’s legit, Loughner listed some people who inpired him. Guess who we Tea Partiers have secretly been fans of? How about: 0bamaessiah, Alinsky, Noam Chomsky, Hugo Chavez, Che Guevera, Castro, Mao, Stalin, and Yasser Arafat!!!

I hope this isn’t a hoax.

Bizarro No. 1 on January 9, 2011 at 6:39 PM

LOL, is Altitude Lew still dating Cindy Sheehan, or did he toss her overboard too?
Del Dolemonte on January 9, 2011 at 6:11 PM

It’s not by Lew Rockwell. But you’re right in that he’s not the most reliable purveyor of info, although in this case I find no fault with the analysis by Gary North.

I meant to link to the original source, Edward Jay Epstein/the Wall Street Journal here. Enjoy.

Buy Danish on January 9, 2011 at 6:39 PM

OmahaConservative on January 9, 2011 at 6:14 PM

Hell is too good a place for Fred Phelps.

bw222 on January 9, 2011 at 6:40 PM

I forgot to mention that I’m betting it’s a hoax.

Bizarro No. 1 on January 9, 2011 at 6:40 PM

Hell is too good a place for Fred Phelps.

bw222 on January 9, 2011 at 6:40 PM

Concise, succinct and to the point. Me likee.

OmahaConservative on January 9, 2011 at 6:45 PM

And now they are exploiting mass murder to further their political aims. Despicable, isn’t it?

That’s why they have lost credibility and are no longer the force they once were.

FloatingRock on January 9, 2011 at 6:24 PM

The pundits? I find the more they exploit this way, the less interested I am, for sure. They become just another guy/gal with an opinion.

Opinions are like bellybuttons. We’ve all got them.

AnninCA on January 9, 2011 at 6:46 PM

There’s no way that isn’t a hoax. Sorry for wasting page space.

Bizarro No. 1 on January 9, 2011 at 6:46 PM

I honestly don’t get it.

AnninCA on January 9, 2011 at 5:53 PM

Get used to it the 2012 campaign has begun and since OBlahBLah has no accomplishments that the majority of Americans agree with the goal is to destroy his ENEMIES and he has no greater enemy than Sarah Palin and the Tea Party Patriots!

OBlah BLah has NEVER won a free and fair election he uses the judiciary and the press to destroy his opponents.

He used the financial crisis that was probably manufactured by Soros and the scared ass response by McCain to wrest away a victory when Sarah had turned the tide.

The talking points went out early from the politicos in the Demrat party if not from within the Whitehouse itself to blame this on OBLah Blahs enemies.

Only Sarah has the guts to stand against this assualt!

Where are Mitt, Newt, Romney, Daniels, Pawlenty?

Anything except crickets?

Sarah Must run and this is a battle that must be fought the only alternative is capitulation and socialism, something the Republican establishment, RINO herd and even some posters here are all to willing to go along with in order to avoid the necessary fight and ultimate victory of freedom of expression, religion, and markets.

We are in a fight for our nation we need to stand behind a FIGHTER!

dhunter on January 9, 2011 at 6:47 PM

I find the intense focus on the Teaparty as causing this to be completely inexplicable. And how this relates to Palin is truly irrational, as though she really is even the type to incite violence.

I honestly don’t get it.

AnninCA on January 9, 2011 at 5:53 PM

They managed to declare Rush as a racist without any proof , that’s how the left stop people. It’s all calculated.
Smear works , that why the left does it.

the_nile on January 9, 2011 at 6:50 PM

I honestly don’t get it.

AnninCA on January 9, 2011 at 5:53 PM

No shiit!!

darwin-t on January 9, 2011 at 6:50 PM

The talking points went out early from the politicos in the Demrat party if not from within the WHOREWhitehouse itself to blame this on OBLah Blahs enemies.

dhunter on January 9, 2011 at 6:47 PM

FIFY

OmahaConservative on January 9, 2011 at 6:50 PM

FloatingRock: Honesty and AnninCa haven’t met. At least not on this site.

tigerlily on January 9, 2011 at 6:06 PM

No, I know about her even though I skip a lot of the Ann related sub-threads. My point is that she doesn’t just come here to express her hate by throwing bombs but actually engages in conversation, even if we disagree and get frustrated.

Arguing with Ann is a good way for people to practice, too.

FloatingRock on January 9, 2011 at 6:20 PM

To FloatingRock:

I understand what you are saying.

To Anninca: Your statement:

“I find the intense focus on the Teaparty as causing this to be completely inexplicable. And how this relates to Palin is truly irrational, as though she really is even the type to incite violence.

I honestly don’t get it.

AnninCA on January 9, 2011 at 5:53 PM

Ann, as a lifetime far Left, self-admitted pro-abort/infanticide proponent, when you say it’s “inexplicable” to you and that you “honestly don’t get” the Leftist smear-fest/naked exploitation of a terrible crime for their political power and continued attempt to disenfranchise Americans of Constitutional protections because they are “enemies”, then I have to question your honesty/mental age.

You have marinated in Leftist thought, belief and barbarism (your pro-abort crusade) all of your adult life, or so you tell us. For you to pretend you don’t know what makes one of your own tick is disingenuous, at best.

tigerlily on January 9, 2011 at 6:52 PM

I hope this isn’t a hoax.

Bizarro No. 1 on January 9, 2011 at 6:39 PM

That FaceBook page was started yesterday by some other loon.

Knucklehead on January 9, 2011 at 6:52 PM

I’m (so far unsuccessfully) trying to determine what, if any, formal journalistic training Yellin received. Her wiki and CNN entries only say that she graduated magna cum laude from Harvard. But Harvard does not offer undergraduate journalism courses, and the two best broadcast journalism schools are across the river (BU and Emerson College). My guess? She was an English Major there.

Newsbusters takes Yellin apart brick by brick regularly. Link to some of their better stuff on her:

http://newsbusters.org/people/television/jessica-yellin?page=1

Del Dolemonte on January 9, 2011 at 6:55 PM

I honestly don’t get it.

AnninCA on January 9, 2011 at 5:53 PM

LOL, there are a lot of “its” you don’t get.

But hey, you still believe, despite all evidence to the contrary, that Bill Clinton was a “good President”. Despite the fact that he had his Justice Department prosecute a female Federal employee (VA) for lying under oath about sex, then turned around and said he was above the law for doing the same thing.

Del Dolemonte on January 9, 2011 at 7:00 PM

tigerlily on January 9, 2011 at 6:52 PM

She is so full of lies, deceit and BS, it ain’t even funny. Sickening.

OmahaConservative on January 9, 2011 at 7:00 PM

I find the intense focus on the Teaparty as causing this to be completely inexplicable. And how this relates to Palin is truly irrational, as though she really is even the type to incite violence.
I honestly don’t get it.
AnninCA on January 9, 2011 at 5:53 PM

I hope you see this as an Ephiphany. Baby steps.

Buy Danish on January 9, 2011 at 7:01 PM

Great…now these idiots want to ban “cross-hairs.”

Representative Bob Brady of Pennsylvania told The Caucus he plans to introduce a bill that would ban symbols like that now-infamous campaign crosshair map.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/live-blog-latest-developments-on-arizona-shooting/?hp#bill-to-ban-crosshairs

Equality 7-2521 on January 9, 2011 at 7:01 PM

Knucklehead on January 9, 2011 at 6:52 PM

Most likely a close associate of AnnintheCan…

OmahaConservative on January 9, 2011 at 7:02 PM

I noticed yesterday that when on the couple of times I saw CNN report on the books that Loughner had said were his favourites they left out most of the left leaning books in the list and highlighted only the right leaning ones.

I also noticed that CNN wasn’t the only the news organisation with its political bias on full display yesterday. Geraldo Rivera went into a full blown left wing media frenzy all but accusing Sarah Palin of pulling the trigger and comparing the tea party to extremist militia groups.

Hellrider on January 9, 2011 at 7:07 PM

Geraldo Rivera went into a full blown left wing media frenzy all but accusing Sarah Palin of pulling the trigger and comparing the tea party to extremist militia groups.

Hellrider on January 9, 2011 at 7:07 PM

Whorealdo is a stupid tool who should be banished to MSNBC but as he claims to be a Republican he gives the left supposed cover for their hysterics.

This fool lost me a long time ago and his hysteric rants during Katrina that the Gobernment save the fat ass slackers who should have gotten their own asses out of there was beyond the pale and fed the media hype that it was Bushes fault.

The only thing to be said for him being on Fox is that he is an exceptionally ignorant lefty thus a good example of their lack of class, intelligence and decorum!

dhunter on January 9, 2011 at 7:15 PM

As commenter t-bird said at Ace yesterday:

Either he’s a Tea Party extremist or… please, no labels.

29Victor on January 9, 2011 at 7:22 PM

tigerlily on January 9, 2011 at 6:52 PM

She is so full of lies, deceit and BS, it ain’t even funny. Sickening.

OmahaConservative on January 9, 2011 at 7:00 PM

99% of the time, I don’t read/respond to her posts, because I don’t think she comes here to learn. Her death-grip position on her “right” to kill the unborn/newborn reflects itself in every other position she holds, (she doesn’t realize this; that people see the illogic/inhumanity of abortion that she applies to every subject, as all abortionists do), making her fake “moderate” posts as transparent as glass.

tigerlily on January 9, 2011 at 7:26 PM

the only thing to be said for him being on Fox is that he is an exceptionally ignorant lefty thus a good example of their lack of class, intelligence and decorum!

dhunter on January 9, 2011 at 7:15 PM

Either that or they just keep him around for a bit of comic relief. Seriously though Rivera has become the very caricature of a left wing tabloid journalist whose reporting is always way over the top, short on facts, full of speculation and way over sensationalised. If the National Enquire ever started its own cable news network I’m willing to bet that Rivera would be its prime time anchorman.

Hellrider on January 9, 2011 at 7:28 PM

God, Shep just let the woman who helped stop the shooter blame it on the right, and he never said a word. She mentioned a term which I just read in the Headlines at Politico about Boehner, where the R’s used the term “job-killing-bill”. The author of the article questioned whether they want to continue using that phraseology to describe legislation. Now you can’t say a bill is job-killing? I’m banging my head on my desk. This is madness.

silvernana on January 9, 2011 at 7:28 PM

silvernana on January 9, 2011 at 7:28 PM

We’re reaching a boiling point. And Shep needs to be canned.

Equality 7-2521 on January 9, 2011 at 7:36 PM

silvernana on January 9, 2011 at 7:28 PM

Yep. I saw that darlin grandma. He is a sickening fag libtard.

OmahaConservative on January 9, 2011 at 7:37 PM

No doubt this has already been said in some form but here it is again: Trying to tie this tragedy to Palin or Limbaugh or Beck is nothing more than an attempt to silence legitimate criticism of the Left’s agenda. But guess what? I ain’t shuttin’ up.

ncborn on January 9, 2011 at 7:41 PM

Equality 7-2521 on January 9, 2011 at 7:36 PM

OmahaConservative on January 9, 2011 at 7:37 PM

I just have to cut off the TV, as I can’t stand to listen to all the madness.

silvernana on January 9, 2011 at 7:44 PM

No doubt this has already been said in some form but here it is again: Trying to tie this tragedy to Palin or Limbaugh or Beck is nothing more than an attempt to silence legitimate criticism of the Left’s agenda. But guess what? I ain’t shuttin’ up.

ncborn on January 9, 2011 at 7:41 PM

Me neither. In fact, now I’ve got a few more things to point out about the moral cesspool that is the America left that I didn’t have to say yesterday. Thanks, lefties. Your lunacy is the gift that keeps on giving.

Rational Thought on January 9, 2011 at 7:46 PM

No doubt this has already been said in some form but here it is again: Trying to tie this tragedy to Palin or Limbaugh or Beck is nothing more than an attempt to silence legitimate criticism of the Left’s agenda. But guess what? I ain’t shuttin’ up.

ncborn on January 9, 2011 at 7:41 PM

I’ve spent hours today online in my local newspaper in the comment section of the article they ran on the shooting, arguing with the lefties. It’s one way I can get info out, and I’ve listed oodles of threats by lefties and as many incidents as I could think of when the left came out and blamed the right and it always ended up being a leftist. It pretty much shuts them up when you have the facts, because for the most part all they know is what they have gotten from Jon Stewart or MSNBC, which isn’t too much. We have to fight back, and that was the only way I knew.

silvernana on January 9, 2011 at 7:48 PM

Equality 7-2521 on January 9, 2011 at 7:36 PM

OmahaConservative on January 9, 2011 at 7:37 PM

I just have to cut off the TV, as I can’t stand to listen to all the madness.

silvernana on January 9, 2011 at 7:44 PM

And the madness is only going to escalate, as the Left turns the heat way up, legislating America away via czars, executive orders, regulations and GOP cowardice. Pray, pray, pray. (That’s to remind me more than anyone else…)

tigerlily on January 9, 2011 at 7:48 PM

I’ve spent hours today online in my local newspaper in the comment section of the article they ran on the shooting, arguing with the lefties. It’s one way I can get info out, and I’ve listed oodles of threats by lefties and as many incidents as I could think of when the left came out and blamed the right and it always ended up being a leftist. It pretty much shuts them up when you have the facts, because for the most part all they know is what they have gotten from Jon Stewart or MSNBC, which isn’t too much. We have to fight back, and that was the only way I knew.

silvernana on January 9, 2011 at 7:48 PM

Thank you for your courage and fightin’ spirit!

tigerlily on January 9, 2011 at 7:50 PM

I really think we should start blaming Political Correctness…

… It, and all it encompasses, is the true heart of the problem.

Those who preach it, and force it upon our society, are also to blame…

… mainly, Democrats.

Someone either should have slapped some sense into that boy years ago…

… or realized he was crazy like a loon, and got him the help he needed instead of worrying “not to offend” anyone.

To me it is plain as day…

(If the Left can blame Sarah Palin, I can blame the foundation of the Left…)

Seven Percent Solution on January 9, 2011 at 7:52 PM

Thank you for your courage and fightin’ spirit!

tigerlily on January 9, 2011 at 7:50 PM

Tigerlily, it’s not that much as far as reaching a large audience, but if we all combat it in our local papers it will be a large outreach. I feel I have to do something, but don’t know what really. I just know we cannot allow the left to get by with smearing the right this way. I detest them.

silvernana on January 9, 2011 at 7:54 PM

No doubt this has already been said in some form but here it is again: Trying to tie this tragedy to Palin or Limbaugh or Beck is nothing more than an attempt to silence legitimate criticism of the Left’s agenda. But guess what? I ain’t shuttin’ up.

ncborn on January 9, 2011 at 7:41 PM

It would be a terrible mistake for America to allow one unhinged anarchist assassin and left wing commentators to shut down legitimate political discourse simply because they’re house of cards is crashing down upon them.

FloatingRock on January 9, 2011 at 7:55 PM

Megan K really took that sheriff to the wood shed, almost cross examining him as a witness on the stand. He had to admit he had no specifics. The woman on Shep’s show was absolutely amazing until she started agreeing with the sheriff. She had no specifics and where she got the bill named job killing is beyond me. A lot of legislation is credited with killing jobs as such but how that could be stretched to inciting violence is beyond me. She is a small business owner, too. You’d think she would be better informed.

Kissmygrits on January 9, 2011 at 7:57 PM

It would be a terrible mistake for America to allow one unhinged anarchist assassin and left wing commentators to shut down legitimate political discourse now that they’re their house of cards is crashing down upon them.

fixed

FloatingRock on January 9, 2011 at 7:58 PM

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