Quotes of the day

posted at 9:00 pm on January 9, 2011 by Allahpundit

“One veteran Democratic operative, who blames overheated rhetoric for the shooting, said President Barack Obama should carefully but forcefully do what his predecessor did.

“‘They need to deftly pin this on the tea partiers,’ said the Democrat. ‘Just like the Clinton White House deftly pinned the Oklahoma City bombing on the militia and anti-government people.’

“Another Democratic strategist said the similarity is that Tucson and Oklahoma City both ‘take place in a climate of bitter and virulent rhetoric against the government and Democrats.’

“This Democrat said that the time had come to insist that Republicans stand up when, for example, a figure such as Fox News commentator Glenn Beck says something incendiary.”

***
“Representative Bob Brady of Pennsylvania told The Caucus he plans to introduce a bill that would ban symbols like that now-infamous campaign crosshair map.

“‘You can’t threaten the president with a bullseye or a crosshair,’ Mr. Brady, a Democrat, said, and his measure would make it a crime to do so to a member of Congress or federal employee, as well.

“Asked if he believed the map incited the gunman in Tucson, he replied, ‘I don’t know what’s in that nut’s head. I would rather be safe than sorry.’”

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Via the Blaze.

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“Embedded in Sheriff Dupnik’s ad hoc wisdom were several assumptions. First, that strident, anti-government political views can be easily categorized as vitriolic, bigoted, and prejudicial. Second, that those voicing strident political views are guilty of issuing Manchurian Candidate-style instructions to commit murder and mayhem to the ‘unbalanced.’ Third, that the Tucson shooter was inspired to kill by political debate or by Sarah Palin’s ‘target’ map or other inflammatory outbursts. Fourth, that we should calibrate our political speech in such a manner that we do not awaken the Manchurian candidates among us.

“And, fifth, that it’s a cop’s role to set the proper dimensions of our political debate. Hey, Dupnik, if you’ve got spare time on your hands, go write somebody a ticket

“Any call to cool ‘inflammatory’ speech is a call to police all speech, and I can’t think of anybody in government, politics, business, or the press that I would trust with that power. As Jonathan Rauch wrote brilliantly in Harper’s in 1995, ‘The vocabulary of hate is potentially as rich as your dictionary, and all you do by banning language used by cretins is to let them decide what the rest of us may say.’ Rauch added, ‘Trap the racists and anti-Semites, and you lay a trap for me too. Hunt for them with eradication in your mind, and you have brought dissent itself within your sights.’”

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“So as the usual talking heads begin their ‘have you no decency?’ routine aimed at talk radio and Republican politicians, perhaps we should turn the question around. Where is the decency in blood libel?…

“To be clear, if you’re using this event to criticize the ‘rhetoric’ of Mrs. Palin or others with whom you disagree, then you’re either: (a) asserting a connection between the ‘rhetoric’ and the shooting, which based on evidence to date would be what we call a vicious lie; or (b) you’re not, in which case you’re just seizing on a tragedy to try to score unrelated political points, which is contemptible. Which is it?

“I understand the desperation that Democrats must feel after taking a historic beating in the midterm elections and seeing the popularity of ObamaCare plummet while voters flee the party in droves. But those who purport to care about the health of our political community demonstrate precious little actual concern for America’s political well-being when they seize on any pretext, however flimsy, to call their political opponents accomplices to murder.

Where is the decency in that?

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I’ll repeat,

maybe this scenario that has played out,is just a
(soldier)in,Hopeys,

Civilian National Security Forces!

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 6:40 AM

Yes indeed big c :) @6:36

cmsinaz on January 10, 2011 at 6:44 AM

Harsh rhetoric might’ve had something to do with it… the killer might’ve watched Olby every night/

As we all know, the violent rhetoric consistently comes from the Left, not the Right. Lefties are also emotional thinkers who might get inflamed and enraged by their leaders (and not just by pundits like Olby, but by the highest office-holder in the land with his “punish” the “enemy” rhetoric) quite easily.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on January 10, 2011 at 6:44 AM

Morning Canopfor….

Trying to tone down my rage against the msm….they will not let this go

cmsinaz on January 10, 2011 at 6:38 AM

cmsinaz:

Ya I hear ya,I was out all day,and checked Drudge at around 1:00AM,i was stunned,but not surprised when I found out!

And the beauty of it,not to be in the moment,finding all this out after it has happened,was all the Lefty finger
pointing,and hearing the “Discourse” talking points on
AM Talk Radio,news spots!!

And hearing that Palin was being blamed was really over
the top!:)

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 6:45 AM

up!:)

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 4:37 AM
You really have been a remarkable commenter on HA, and I never throw you any kudos.

*winds up and throws*

Thanks.

Saltysam on January 10, 2011 at 4:44 AM

Saltysam:Crap,sorry for the slow response to your post,
love your work as well:)

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 6:48 AM

Indeed, they can’t see the damage they are doing

cmsinaz on January 10, 2011 at 6:49 AM

Yes indeed big c :) @6:36

cmsinaz on January 10, 2011 at 6:44 AM

cmsinaz:)

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 6:50 AM

Hey, I didn’t spend too much time on this. Wonder what other little snipits there are out there on Sheriff Joe spewing hate.
Here’s an interview where he refuses to enforce the new Arizona illegal immigration law.. calling the law stupid and replying to what can be done about it, he says “November elections.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJGbeRP9yn4

So, on the one hand, it’s hate to block a law (ObamaCar) that people are trying to pass to help the country… but on the other hand it’s hate to pass a law (illegal immigration) to help the country.
So which is it Joe, is it hate to block laws or is it hate to enforce the law?

So, good ol Sheriff Joe likes to spew a little inflammatory rhetoric of his own while he politicizes just about everything. I’m wondering what kind of campaign commercials ol Sheriff Joe ran. Looks like he had a Republican challenger this past election. Looks like he also has been going over his budget by millions of dollars for the past few years.

“Clarence W. Dupnik has been Pima County’s sheriff for 28 years, and this year is challenged by Republican Harry Shaw, a former law-enforcement officer and corrections official.

Sure, for the last five years, Dupnik has gone over his budget by several million dollars each year–but Dupnik is no Sheriff Joe Arpaio.”

http://skinny08.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/tucson-weekly-endorsement-clarence-dupnik-for-pima-county-sheriff/

JellyToast on January 10, 2011 at 6:57 AM

Scarborough is disgusting. Stating over and over it was irresponsible for people to use the attack for political purposes and then of course stating over and over the two who need to “tone it down” are Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann. Then he pauses – nope, can’t think of anyone else.
Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann
Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann
Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann
It’s a recurring theme of his. Only “our side, Pat Buchanan” needs to moderate their speech and say “I’m sorry!”

Marcus on January 10, 2011 at 6:59 AM

Harsh rhetoric might’ve had something to do with it… the killer might’ve watched Olby every night/

As we all know, the violent rhetoric consistently comes from the Left, not the Right. Lefties are also emotional thinkers who might get inflamed and enraged by their leaders (and not just by pundits like Olby, but by the highest office-holder in the land with his “punish” the “enemy” rhetoric) quite easily.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on January 10, 2011 at 6:44 AM

To be honest, I think harsh rhetoric can come from both sides, along with military metaphors, but that is a part of our language. I do think the left has no room to talk, they have no problem at all calling for death and destruction.

But the left just refuses to see its own part in all this. I mean come on, just look at some of the rhetoric out there targeting Republican politicians coming from the left. The right is not as sanctimonious about all this as the left.

Terrye on January 10, 2011 at 7:01 AM

So everyone comes together in his state to pass a law but the sheriff refuses to enforce the law. But instead of getting along and having unity he calls the law stupid and refuses to enforce it. Is that hate? It was hate to to try to block ObamaCare!

JellyToast on January 10, 2011 at 7:02 AM

It seems to me that Dupnik’s department had Loughner on their radar for some time and yet failed to stop this massacre. All the whining about rhetoric is to deflect attention from his own negligence.

Disturb the Universe on January 10, 2011 at 7:03 AM

Gabrielle Giffords shooting: Frightening, twisted shrine in Arizona killer Jared Lee Loughner’s yard

A sinister shrine reveals a chilling occult dimension in the mind of the deranged gunman accused of shooting a member of Congress and 19 others.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/01/10/2011-01-10_chilling_shrine_in_madmans_yard.html

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 7:05 AM

Representative Bob Brady of Pennsylvania told The Caucus he plans to introduce a bill that would ban symbols like that now-infamous campaign crosshair map.

Does that meant the Target stores have to change their name and logo?

Disturb the Universe on January 10, 2011 at 7:07 AM

So everyone comes together in his state to pass a law but the sheriff refuses to enforce the law. But instead of getting along and having unity he calls the law stupid and refuses to enforce it. Is that hate? It was hate to to try to block ObamaCare!

JellyToast on January 10, 2011 at 7:02 AM

He is just a partisan Democrat and some Republican should run against him for that office and take his job away from him. That is what should happen.

Terrye on January 10, 2011 at 7:08 AM

It seems to me that Dupnik’s department had Loughner on their radar for some time and yet failed to stop this massacre. All the whining about rhetoric is to deflect attention from his own negligence.

Disturb the Universe on January 10, 2011 at 7:03 AM

Disturb the Universe:Sounds like Fort Hood Part Two!

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 7:08 AM

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 7:05 AM

The parents had to know about the weird shrine in the yard.

Disturb the Universe on January 10, 2011 at 7:10 AM

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 7:05 AM

The parents had to know about the weird shrine in the yard.

Disturb the Universe on January 10, 2011 at 7:10 AM

Disturb the Universe:You would think,I mean,if it was my
kid in my yard,that would of gotten
my son/daughter in a heap of WTH-WTF,
is that all about!!

Maybe its the Mein Kampf,Nazi Occult
tie in!!:)

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 7:15 AM

Marcus, I turned them off after the first bash of palin, bachmann….I knew it wouldn’t go past those 2

cmsinaz on January 10, 2011 at 7:17 AM

Hey Sheriff, nice going injecting partisan opinion into an official investigation. At least Meghan called him on it with her example of past political violence. I’ve come to the conclusion that all democrats are thoughtless twits.

kregg on January 10, 2011 at 7:19 AM

During the ’08 campaigns, I railed at Politico editors stringing along stories without names accompanying “quotes” –too easily abused to fabricate stories to suit the editor’s opinion as if substantiated by “sources”. –1st quote of day.

Regarding the “liberal” knee-jerk Congressman’s legislative response to gag/suffocate free speech in order to “preserve the peace” WHAT A CROCK! Layer upon layer of PC only make it easier for terrorists like Hassan and violently insane criminal minds like Loughlan to do their dastardly deeds, while removing what yet remains of Constitutional Governance, replaced with authoritarianism.

That Dupnik is a dunce is not news, though nationally, the general public is just getting to know the Pima County Sheriff. Dupnik not only refuses to enforce law in order to enable the Mexican drug cartel fortresses built in the hills above Tucson, but failed for three hours after the fact to secure the massive shooting crime scene Saturday. Nothing respectable about Dupnik or his fan club of spiteful, corrupt dolts, no matter how Politically Correctly they paint themselves for the hate mongering Alinsky parade v. Constitutional Governance.

maverick muse on January 10, 2011 at 7:19 AM

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 7:05 AM

Did you see the comments? Not one Lib Idiot responded with the spew we have seen these last 36 hours. Every comment was talking about the clear awareness of the Truth; That Palin was being smeared by the media.

Maybe its the Mein Kampf,Nazi Occult
tie in!!:)

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 7:15 AM

Yes Adolph was big time into the occult.

Geochelone on January 10, 2011 at 7:23 AM

Joe Scarborough wants “our side” to “drop revolutionary symbolism“. Why whatever could he mean, Tea Partiers?

Marcus on January 10, 2011 at 7:27 AM

Maybe its the Mein Kampf,Nazi Occult
tie in!!:)

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 7:15 AM
===========
Yes Adolph was big time into the occult.

Geochelone on January 10, 2011 at 7:23 AM

Geochelone:Yup,of all that has gone down,the entire MSM and
leftys are blameing Sarah,nuts!

Speaking of Target Maps,hers the Lefts!:)
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http://hillbuzz.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/demmap.jpg

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 7:28 AM

Political rhetoric blah blah.

That nonsense is clouding the real issues. Why was this guy walking around untreated and walking around with a semi-automatic weapon?

If you ask me, school officials are so cowed these days that they’ll avoid intervention at all costs. Schools are more likely to get sued by a student being called out than they are by the survivors of their eventual murder victims.

Who raised this animal?

BuckeyeSam on January 10, 2011 at 7:32 AM

January 9 2011

Boortz Schools CNN
=======================

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vY6xtsa2uY

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 7:35 AM

Who raised this animal?

BuckeyeSam on January 10, 2011 at 7:32 AM

How the hell does some kid have a human skull-shrine in the backyard without his jackball parents knowing?

Plus this clown has a prior drug arrest, flunks urine test in Military application, and still manages to get a gun by passing an FBI background check with all these other red flags visible in plain sight.

Geochelone on January 10, 2011 at 7:40 AM

During the course of late evening, I put the TV onto MSNBC to see the blame game they would be playing. How anyone other than DailyKos and HuffPost could take that Sheriff seriously is way beyond me. The guy was being asked pretty rudimentary stuff and was shockingly just using all left wing talking points. He’s a mindless Progressive Socialist regurgitating the far left’s talking points. John Kyl should see to this guy being moved out of his position…..

adamsmith on January 10, 2011 at 7:42 AM

BuckEyeSam, good Malkin link.
Malkin links to Jezebel who claims to normally be a rational woman. Jezebel:

What I’ve written on this site about Palin so far has been pretty restrained, considering what I feel for her privately could be described as violent, nay, murderous, rage.

Quit deluding your murderous bloodlust as “normally reasonable”, Lefties. It is not normal, nor is it reasonable to consider murder or assassination, period. Those of us who grew up having JFK, MLKjr., and RFK assassinated know better than to EVER entertain bloodlust.

“It’s POLITICS, stupid!” should never boil down to “your subjugation or your life” in America.

Yet our current POTUS has announced from the White House that his political opponents are “enemies” and for his supporters to bring guns to win political arguments that he references as “combat in Washington”. And elected Democrats along with Leftist voters take Obama’s bus to run down anyone in the way, including little girls, federal judges, congressional members, everyone.

And elected Democrat Pima County Sheriff fans the flames of hateful wildfire where in all places, Arizona is most susceptible to wildfire, and while keeping the peace is his specific official duty.

THREE HOURS AFTER THE SHOOTING SPREE the crime scene remained unsecured by this publicly elected Democrat Sheriff Dupnik, while Dupnik communications with the White House were underway and FBI Chief Muller ordered by Obama and en route to oversee the investigation — too late for untainted evidence. Sick. Don’t claim incompetence. This isn’t the first shooting scene of a crime that Dupnik’s overseen during his 50 years in law enforcement that he boasts.

maverick muse on January 10, 2011 at 7:44 AM

I am streaming Bill Bennett and Byron York is his guest. Has Sen. Manchin apologized for shooting the Cap & Trade Bill?

Cindy Munford on January 10, 2011 at 7:48 AM

John Kyl should see to this guy being moved out of his position…..

adamsmith on January 10, 2011 at 7:42 AM

John Kyl needs Pima County voters to give Dupnik the boot out of office. Tucson voters need to show their commitment to rule of law by rallying for Dupnik’s removal from office. The Tea Party should do an outreach to both AZ Democrat Party and AZ Republican Party to call for Dupnik’s forced retirement. Three hours leaving the shooting scene unsecured is unacceptable.

maverick muse on January 10, 2011 at 7:50 AM

It is times like these that the ill-informed, the ill-advised, the naive, the opportunistic, and the just plain moronic all rear their ugly heads pretty much at the same time.

Right now, it is the just plain moronic that I am see coming out of the mouths of the MSM talking heads and pundits, especially idiots like Paul Krugman and Joe Klein.

Plus you have certified duncecap wearing fools like Dick Durbin blathering on the tube yesterday about the dangers of volatile rhetoric, while convienently forgetting his own flame-colored comments on the Senate floor concerning US military acting like stormtrooping Nazis in Iraq from not too long ago. Amazing how he can turn that memory of his ON and OFF when he sees fit, isn’t it?

As for this sheriff out there in Arizona with his own equally loopy theory on the situation, this man needs to be offered a nice piping hot cup of SHUT THE HELL UP!, and take care of the business at hand out in his community. All this fool is doing is fanning flames and nothing else.

As for Bob Brady, if that boneheaded idea of his is the absolute best he can offer as a viable solution, I shudder at the thought of what he would consider to be the worst. I’m surprised the man didn’t just come out and offer a bounty to anyone who can bring him the tongue of Sarah Palin on a silver platter, though I am waiting for Keith Olbermann or whatever insane asylum escapee that is running around over at MSNBC to make a similar offer.

As I said, the ill-informed, the ill-advised, the naive, the opportunistic, and the just plain moronic; they are all out in force out there right now, and none of them doing a single bit of good.

pilamaye on January 10, 2011 at 7:52 AM

Rep. Gabrielle Giffords’ blood is on Sarah Palin’s hands after putting cross hair over district
Michael Daly

Sunday, January 9th 2011, 4:00 AM

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/01/09/2011-01-09_palin_put_a_target_on_her_she_should_have_known_the_dangers.html

What an $#%^&*(&^%$#%^&*()_(*&^%$%^&*()*&^%$#%^!!!!

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 7:52 AM

January 9 2011

Boortz Schools CNN
=======================

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vY6xtsa2uY

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 7:35 AM

WELL WORTH a column here with imbedding that video.

Marcus on January 10, 2011 at 7:55 AM

TUCSON MASSACRE

Look who else put ‘bull’s-eye’ on Giffords
Leftist blog points finger at Palin, while scrubbing ‘dead to me’ rant

Read more: Look who else put ‘bull’s-eye’ on Giffords http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=249273#ixzz1AdXGI9z0

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 7:56 AM

January 9 2011

Boortz Schools CNN
=======================

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vY6xtsa2uY

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 7:35 AM

BRAVO Neal!

kregg on January 10, 2011 at 7:56 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vY6xtsa2uY

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 7:35 AM
==============
WELL WORTH a column here with imbedding that video.

Marcus on January 10, 2011 at 7:55 AM

Marcus:Nice Ambush attempt by CNN,yup,I fired it off to
tips!:)

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 7:58 AM

I’ll tell you what, not one of these leftist media trash are talking about the guy who tackled the shooter. A 74 year old veteran did and AFTER he too was shot in the head.

Anyone on air talking about this hero? Anyone? Bueller?

Bishop on January 10, 2011 at 12:09 AM

On Twitter, the only time these lefties mention loss of life is when they use it as a tool to bash conservatives over the head who dare defend themselves from the insane accusations put out by the left. For example

mizflame98 on January 10, 2011 at 8:00 AM

Man, Michelle Malkin is on fire. Go over to her site. She is dishing it out big time. Awesome post. Good for Her. Michelle Malkin you rock.

Geochelone on January 10, 2011 at 8:01 AM

State-Run Media Interviews Friend of Shooter… Completely Ignores Her Claims That Shooter Was “Left-Wing” and “Quite Liberal” (Video)

Posted by Jim Hoft on Sunday, January 9, 2011, 12:06 PM

More deceit from the state-run media…
ABC interviewed a friend of the Tucson gunman, Caitlin Parker.

Yesterday Caitlin tweeted that Loughner was “far left” and “quite liberal.”

If you thought that ABC would bring this up in their interview… You would be wrong.
Via NewsBusters:
======================

http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/01/state-run-media-interviews-friend-of-shooter-completely-ignores-her-claims-that-shooter-was-left-wing-and-quite-liberal-video/

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 8:01 AM

Geochelone on January 10, 2011 at 7:40 AM

Loughlin was never committed for mental health treatment, so without committing or getting caught committing crimes, he’d have no rap sheet for the FBI background check to flag.

Are you suggesting that CyberCzar be empowered further in order to “prevent” thought crime from being enacted real time?

This tragic incident is just what Obama needed in order to distract Congress, further his own agenda, and though illogical, smear political opponents, namely American right-leaning citizenry, rather than hold accountable himself and his own Alinsky base for building and fueling this tragic stage complete with victimized bystanders representing the widest swath from a little girl, a federal judge (GHWB appt.) and according to Leftist websites “dead to Democrats” Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords.

maverick muse on January 10, 2011 at 8:02 AM

Neal ko’d Don

cmsinaz on January 10, 2011 at 8:02 AM

Man, Michelle Malkin is on fire. Go over to her site. She is dishing it out big time. Awesome post. Good for Her. Michelle Malkin you rock.

Geochelone on January 10, 2011 at 8:01 AM

Geochelone:Thanks for the heads up,gonna scoot over in a
second!:)

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 8:03 AM

misspelled Loughner/aversion to the creep

maverick muse on January 10, 2011 at 8:05 AM

Glenn Reynolds

maverick muse on January 10, 2011 at 8:09 AM

I’m not saying that Palin chose the symbols because they are surveyor symbols or that anyone else would know the difference, but it’s still interesting.
http://bigjournalism.com/dloesch/2011/01/09/the-difference-between-purveyor-symbols-and-crosshairs/

mizflame98 on January 10, 2011 at 8:12 AM

The Arizona Tragedy and the Politics of Blood Libel — Those who purport to care about the tenor of political discourse don’t help civil debate when they seize on any pretext to call their political opponents accomplices to murder.”

we should turn the question around. Where is the decency in blood libel?

those who purport to care about the health of our political community demonstrate precious little actual concern for America’s political well-being when they seize on any pretext, however flimsy, to call their political opponents accomplices to murder.

Where is the decency in that?

Reynolds @ WSJ

maverick muse on January 10, 2011 at 8:14 AM

GOD, I pray for the day when these leftists become this outraged about killing an innocent baby in the womb. Abortion…America’s Holocaust

lukespapa on January 10, 2011 at 8:15 AM

Fox and Friends have a guy on who helped subdue the shooter. He carries concealed. He ran TOWARD the shooting, gun drawn, and disarmed a person who had picked up the shooters gun. No, he did not just blow the guy away who had the gun. He saw the slide was back, seized the persons wrist and ordered him to drop the weapon. Witnesses told him the shooter was the guy on the ground, so he helped hold him down.

The traitorous Marxist left will ignore this I’m sure.

csdeven on January 10, 2011 at 8:16 AM

mizflame98 on January 10, 2011 at 8:12 AM

That clears the air around Palin after the latest smoke job fabricated against her.

maverick muse on January 10, 2011 at 8:16 AM

From Yahoo news:

Whatever his motive, Jared Loughner was, by all accounts, an antisocial character whom most found odd and off-putting. Wearing a hoodie even in the scorching Tucson summer, and sealing the world out with his iPod earbuds, Jared would walk the family dog around the neighborhood, oblivious to those who tried to greet him. “I’ve said ‘hi’ multiple times, but he’s ignored me and continued with whatever he’s doing,” says Anthony Woods, a 19-year-old airplane mechanic who’s lived next door to the Loughners for seven years. “He seems very depressed, he was hunched over at all times.” (By contrast, neighbors say Jared’s mother is very friendly and outgoing, although his father, Woods says, is “very aggressive, very angry all the time about petty things—like if the trash is out because the trash guys didn’t pick it up, he yells at us for it.” The Loughners couldn’t be reached for comment). In recent weeks, Jared seemed to grow even more antisocial. “I’d try to engage him in a conversation and he’d run or walk away” says Jason Johnson, 33, who lives across the street and met Jared for the first time a few weeks ago. “I saw him two days ago and I said hello. He turned and walked back into the house. He had a look in his eyes like something wasn’t right,” Johnson says. “You know how it is when you talk to someone who’s mentally ill and they’re just not there? It was like he was in his own world.”

Disturb the Universe on January 10, 2011 at 8:17 AM

Man, Michelle Malkin is on fire. Go over to her site. She is dishing it out big time. Awesome post. Good for Her. Michelle Malkin you rock.

Geochelone on January 10, 2011 at 8:01 AM

Geochelone:Thanks for the heads up,gonna scoot over in a
second!:)

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 8:03 AM
======================================

Geochelone:Superb,Michelle has all her little Liberal
fact ducks all in a row:)

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 8:17 AM

Jim Geraghty is on fire on Twitter.

mizflame98 on January 10, 2011 at 8:17 AM

Loughlin was never committed for mental health treatment, so without committing or getting caught committing crimes, he’d have no rap sheet for the FBI background check to flag.

Wasn’t there a drug arrest, though?

Missy on January 10, 2011 at 8:18 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCP0HD3I_wM&feature=player_embedded#!

Very telling video… In their own words…

Keemo on January 10, 2011 at 8:20 AM

It’s a relief that thoughtful, rational conservatives like Glenn Reynolds realize that a united front from the Right need occur, and that bloggers have a responsibility to participate in the publicity effort required for the RECORD to remain the RECORD.

Americans need to speak out on holding to the record and refusing to accept fabricated revisionism.

maverick muse on January 10, 2011 at 8:23 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCP0HD3I_wM&feature=player_embedded#!

Very telling video… In their own words…

Keemo on January 10, 2011 at 8:20 AM

Keemo:Well done,I enjoyed the Lefty Mindset nonsense!:)

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 8:26 AM

Americans need to speak out on holding to the record and refusing to accept fabricated revisionism.

maverick muse on January 10, 2011 at 8:23 AM

Absolutely…

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 8:26 AM

We need to shove their own behavior/words right back down their soul less behinds. :-)

Keemo on January 10, 2011 at 8:30 AM

Wasn’t there a drug arrest, though?

Missy on January 10, 2011 at 8:18 AM

It was tossed out.

mizflame98 on January 10, 2011 at 8:40 AM

Sarah Palin invented New Coke.

steebo77 on January 10, 2011 at 8:42 AM

Missy on January 10, 2011 at 8:18 AM

I don’t know Loughner’s medical/criminal record. My comment was written clearly in the hypothetical, why a mentally disturbed person might not show up on an FBI checklist.

What I do know is that mental health patients will also suffer further stigma. And that no thanks to Laughner’s parents who preferred their own comfort through denial of their son’s problematic needs. And even that judgment on my part is based upon the hypothetical that his parents had the mental and social faculty to recognize their child was disturbed, at least to admit that their child was disturbing.

I understood after research some years ago* that most schizophrenics are not violent. The exception gets the attention, and forms public opinion regarding the rest.

/*Qualifier. From recent research, Rx mass distribution for attention deficits has created a generation of youth much different in chemical-biological composition today than many years ago. All bets are off considering any mental stability on people who live on mood enhancing mind altering prescription drugs, particularly when mixed with other prescriptions and/or recreational alcohol or pot. And no, I’m not referencing Loughner who was off his rocker. I am referencing the readiness these days of Alinsky people to self-righteously call for violence on fellow Americans who have a different opinion.

maverick muse on January 10, 2011 at 8:42 AM

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 8:26 AM
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We need to shove their own behavior/words right back down their soul less behinds. :-)

Keemo on January 10, 2011 at 8:30 AM

Keemo:U-Betcha,the Left ownes it:)

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 8:45 AM

Keemo on January 10, 2011 at 8:30 AM

Return Alinsky to sender The Alien style.

maverick muse on January 10, 2011 at 8:46 AM

Common Sense,finally!
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01/10/2011
America’s Misguided Debate

Blaming Sarah Palin for Arizona Shooting Is Wrong
A Commentary by Marc Hujer

Following this weekend’s tragic shooting, many on the left in the United States are calling for Sarah Palin and the Tea Party to be called to account for their alleged culpability in the killings. But these claims are spurious and could do more to help the left’s political detractors than harm them.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,738627,00.html

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 8:48 AM

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 8:49 AM

maverick muse on January 10, 2011 at 8:46 AM

Classic… :-)

Keemo on January 10, 2011 at 8:50 AM

mizflame98 on January 10, 2011 at 8:40 AM
maverick muse on January 10, 2011 at 8:42 AM

Gotcha – thanks for the clarification.

Missy on January 10, 2011 at 8:52 AM

Andrew Klavan
The Hateful Left

Where incendiary political rhetoric truly resides in America
9 January 2011
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Judging from his website, I would guess that Jared Lee Loughner suffers from schizophrenia. The man who opened fire with a nine-millimeter Glock in Tucson, Arizona, on Saturday was obsessed with mind control and bizarre, incomprehensible theories of currency and government. He read books by Hitler, Marx, Plato, and Orwell, among others. He did not believe in God. By all appearances, his mind was ruined by madness and his soul by evil. In any case, he murdered a nine-year-old child, a federal judge, and four others while wounding at least twelve, including Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, a Blue Dog Democrat well liked on both sides of the aisle.

http://www.city-journal.org/2011/eon0109ak.html

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 8:54 AM

The irony is Loughner reminded me of The Unibomber from the first day after seeing his rantings on youtube…
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20110110/D9KLEE400.html

mizflame98 on January 10, 2011 at 8:57 AM

Loughner had been stalking Rep. Giffords for 3 years, at least. His mental condition would have seriously deteriorated during that time period and he probably became fixated on her. Add to his mental state that he was also a pothead which is why the Army rejected him. Not surprising that he did what he did. Being ordered to seek treatment by the school was useless. This is a legacy of the left who made it difficult for those around him to get him help. He’s got rights, you see. We’ll have fewer because of this. Mr. Brady should know it’s already a crime to threaten the president. We don’t need another law. The sheriff is despicable. 6 people died and he makes political hay.

Kissmygrits on January 10, 2011 at 8:58 AM

People make fun of “geeks” for noticing things like this, but it pays to notice all of the ways that Hollywood (and advertisers and politicians etc) push those subconscious buttons O’Bannon is talking about. They do that shit on purpose. Because it works. –David Dietle, “Alien: A Film Franchise Based Entirely on Rape

Quit buying/funding revisionism.

Quit accepting abuse.

Hold responsibility on record.

Unacceptable: audacity of CYA pinstripe crime from the Oval Office.

maverick muse on January 10, 2011 at 9:05 AM

This is a legacy of the left who made it difficult for those around him to get him be forced against his will into getting help.

Kissmygrits on January 10, 2011 at 8:58 AM

This is a slippery slope I don’t want to go down.

gryphon202 on January 10, 2011 at 10:33 AM

Perfect.

Let’s take a tragedy caused by a clearly psychotic, miswired, 22-year-old nutcase – and throw an irresponsible, loud-mouthed liberal sherriff into the mix BEFORE we have all the facts.

Sherriff Dufus really neads to STFU, keep his idiotic rhetoric to himself, and do his damn job (that he really needs to lose next election).

Tim_CA on January 10, 2011 at 11:02 AM

January 9 2011

Boortz Schools CNN
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vY6xtsa2uY

canopfor on January 10, 2011 at 7:35 AM

Great clip, tfp. Notice that the after Boortz reads a long list of incendiary and irresponsible quotes by the Bamster, the CNN doofus (Don?) says “there’s context in everything.”

Funny, the liberals don’t look at ‘context’ when they are quoting conservatives or Republicans, do they?

slickwillie2001 on January 10, 2011 at 11:14 AM

“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama said in Philadelphia last night.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Obama_brings_a_gun_to_a_knife_fight.html

If the D’s want to throw blame than they need to look in the mirror. In this case it appears the guy was few cards short of a full deck. To use this as a political football would be a bad move.

VikingGoneWild on January 10, 2011 at 12:20 PM

“Asked if he believed the map incited the gunman in Tucson, he replied, ‘I don’t know what’s in that nut’s head. I would rather be safe than sorry.’”

And I would rather see you hanging from a lamp post for being an enemy of freedom.

SirGawain on January 10, 2011 at 1:05 PM

/*Qualifier. From recent research, Rx mass distribution for attention deficits has created a generation of youth much different in chemical-biological composition today than many years ago. All bets are off considering any mental stability on people who live on mood enhancing mind altering prescription drugs, particularly when mixed with other prescriptions and/or recreational alcohol or pot.

maverick muse on January 10, 2011 at 8:42 AM

mm,
As one who ‘lived’ on mood/mind altering drugs for years(recreational type), I can attest to the mental instability of us/those who did/do. I was certifiable. Best thing I ever did, aside from fathering two great kids, was to clean up my act and get off the stuff 25 years ago. I’m still a fruitcake :) but without the hard stuff. I can see someone who is unstable to begin with being beyond the pale as to their thoughts and actions.

odat on January 10, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Methinks the left wing sheriff has figured out how to get this left wing useful idiot off the hook for his actions….Spoil the jury pool with prejudice. Isn’t his legal team looking for help from left wing kook enabling lawyers?

nobama2012 on January 10, 2011 at 4:09 PM

Where was this liberal outrage when our soldiers were gunned down at Fort Hood? Oh no, we couldn’t jumped to the accurate conclusion that the shooter was a Muslim terrorist.

chickasaw42 on January 10, 2011 at 5:25 PM

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