Video: Lee, Spitzer on taxes and ObamaCare

posted at 8:48 am on January 5, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Eliot Spitzer last night got into an odd argument last night with Senator-elect Mike Lee over ObamaCare and taxes that ended up using contradictory logic. Lee catches the fallacy on which Spitzer’s argument on taxes relies, but that reality actually negates Spitzer’s argument for ObamaCare:

Spitzer attempts to pull a bit of a bait-and-switch on Lee on taxes. Lee has argued that almost half of Americans pay no federal income taxes, which is why Lee says they have “no skin in the game” on federal spending policies.  He sees this as a dangerous development, and one which transforms a broad swath of Americans into a dependent class.  ObamaCare actually makes this worse by subsidizing households making up to $88,000 a year — roughly 62% of all American households overall — for health insurance purchases within the individual policy market “exchanges.”  Spitzer attempts to confuse the issue  by looking at all taxes, including state, local, and sales taxes, to calculate tax burdens.  That’s irrelevant to Lee’s point, which is having skin in the game for federal taxes, which is almost entirely collected from individuals through the income tax.

But let’s take Spitzer’s argument and apply it back to his defense of ObamaCare.  Spitzer argues that we have a bunch of free riders in the system and that they should be forced to contribute to effort to provide services.  Isn’t that exactly the point Lee makes about the federal government?  And unlike health care, which as Lee says really belongs in the purview of the states, the federal government really is everyone’s burden.


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All you need to know about CNN is that they hired Client 9.

Akzed on January 5, 2011 at 8:52 AM

D’oh!

Nice work Lee

cmsinaz on January 5, 2011 at 8:54 AM

Honestly, why give one moment of spotlight to this scumbag named Spitzer. This man deserves to be shunned for life, nothing more.

Keemo on January 5, 2011 at 8:56 AM

What are Spitzer’s qualifications again?

AZfederalist on January 5, 2011 at 8:57 AM

Tell Spitzer that the “free hookers” provision was removed from ObamaCare before passage, he’ll suddenly decide he hates it.

Bishop on January 5, 2011 at 8:57 AM

the federal government really is everyone’s burden.

cue Mick and the boys….

ted c on January 5, 2011 at 8:58 AM

Spitzer argues that we have a bunch of free riders in the system and that they should be forced to contribute to effort to provide services.

escort services??

ted c on January 5, 2011 at 8:59 AM

What are Spitzer’s qualifications again?

AZfederalist on January 5, 2011 at 8:57 AM

He’s an expert at having foreskin in the game.

David in ATL on January 5, 2011 at 8:59 AM

We had better be focused on the GOP rather than the dime a dozen Spitzers out there. These Liberal morons have little value in life. Our hopes lie with the GOP as the Liberals are truly hopeless. The Liberal machinery will throw everything they have at the new young guns coming in with an all out effort to corrupt them and render them as slaves. We must admit, they are good at this. Unless I’m wrong and not seeing clearly, our country is at a crossroad and these times are going to shape the direction of our politics for at least the rest of my life.

Keemo on January 5, 2011 at 9:02 AM

David in ATL on January 5, 2011 at 8:59 AM

:-)

AZfederalist on January 5, 2011 at 9:05 AM

What time should I tune in for the gavel take ?

cmsinaz on January 5, 2011 at 9:06 AM

Spitzer, who cares what this disgraced man has to say on any subject?

FireBlogger on January 5, 2011 at 9:08 AM

Tell Spitzer that the “free hookers” provision was removed from ObamaCare before passage, he’ll suddenly decide he hates it.

Bishop on January 5, 2011 at 8:57 AM

hahahhahaha!

search4truth on January 5, 2011 at 9:10 AM

Any politician who pays $5000 for sex has no chance of comprehending the common man’s struggle to get by under his leadership.

/.

CaveatEmpty on January 5, 2011 at 9:12 AM

Seriously I would only address this tool as client 9.

snoopicus on January 5, 2011 at 9:21 AM

I am expecting to see Spitzer’s tongue shoot out of his mouth and snatch a buzzing fruit fly . Somebody tell ol’ serpent head that nobody is watching.

DeweyWins on January 5, 2011 at 9:47 AM

The real problem with this is that those same people who don’t pay federal taxes think that they do. The money is taken out of their check and even though they get it back when they file their taxes, I guarantee you that they think they have been robbed.

Cindy Munford on January 5, 2011 at 9:58 AM

He’s an expert at having foreskin in the game.

David in ATL on January 5, 2011 at 8:59 AM

Oh my gosh that is brilliant! Thanks for the laugh.

Czarina on January 5, 2011 at 10:18 AM

But let’s take Spitzer’s argument and apply it back to his defense of ObamaCare. Spitzer argues that we have a bunch of free riders in the system and that they should be forced to contribute to effort to provide services. Isn’t that exactly the point Lee makes about the federal government?

Good catch, Ed.

MayBee on January 5, 2011 at 10:29 AM

I don’t want to contribute to this vile bully’s credibility by taking anything he says seriously.

RadClown on January 5, 2011 at 10:47 AM

I had the honor to vote for Mike Lee. Firmly ending the Bennett political dynasty here in Utah. I have met Mike once or twice over the last couple years….a smart man. He will make an excellent Senator…..

norm1111 on January 5, 2011 at 11:09 AM

What, you expect consistency from Client 9? He’s clearly able to do one thing and enforce on others, something else entirely.

Esthier on January 5, 2011 at 11:16 AM

Client 9 and Kathy Griffin. CNN a class act all around. Geez, if we’re forced to look at Spitzer, can we get something done about that Barney Rubble Shadow?

curved space on January 5, 2011 at 11:43 AM

I had really hoped to never see Eliot’s snarling face again.

pgrossjr on January 5, 2011 at 11:45 AM

When I see picture and “Skin in the game” under his pic, I see a lot jokes popping into my mind. LOL

jeffn21 on January 5, 2011 at 12:18 PM

Elliot Spitzer, bringing prostitution to its knees, one hooker at a time.

mossberg500 on January 5, 2011 at 12:29 PM

Thanks for the write up Ed. Just can’t bring myself to click on any video from Client Number Nine (CNN).

WarEagle01 on January 5, 2011 at 12:50 PM

“Governor Romney, a very conservative Republican. . . ”

Whah? ? ? ?

The Hooker Man, Spit or Swallow, is off his meds again.

RickZ on January 5, 2011 at 1:26 PM

I hope Mike Lee is front and center amongst Senate Republicans, he is super smart and won’t get tripped up or play by the media semantic games.

lizzie beth on January 5, 2011 at 4:20 PM

Spitzer lied on several occasions. We know that he is a dem. We know that he is immoral. Case closed.

proconstitution on January 5, 2011 at 9:25 PM