WaPo op-ed: Why should we let these ROTC warmongers on Ivy League campuses?

posted at 5:50 pm on December 30, 2010 by Allahpundit

I’ve heard liberals say that WaPo’s opinion page skews right, but after reading this, I … completely agree with them, actually. If you were a conservative looking to discredit ROTC opponents, what sort of leftist would you recruit for an op-ed? How about a guy who dismisses ROTC classes as “softie courses” literally two sentences after praising race/gender/LGBT identity studies? Or how about a guy prone to saying things like, “I admire those who join armies, whether America’s or the Taliban’s”? Find the man willing to put those thoughts to paper and you’ve found a perfect patsy for your pro-ROTC agenda.

Well played, WaPo. Very well played.

At Notre Dame, on that 1989 visit and several following, I learned that the ROTC academics were laughably weak. They were softie courses. The many students I interviewed were candid about their reasons for signing up: free tuition and monthly stipends, plus the guarantee of a job in the military after college. With some exceptions, they were mainly from families that couldn’t afford ever-rising college tabs.

To oppose ROTC, as I have since my college days in the 1960s, when my school enticed too many of my classmates into joining, is not to be anti-soldier. I admire those who join armies, whether America’s or the Taliban’s: for their discipline, for their loyalty to their buddies and to their principles, for their sacrifices to be away from home. In recent years, I’ve had several Iraq and Afghanistan combat veterans in my college classes. If only the peace movement were as populated by people of such resolve and daring.

ROTC and its warrior ethic taint the intellectual purity of a school, if by purity we mean trying to rise above the foul idea that nations can kill and destroy their way to peace. If a school such as Harvard does sell out to the military, let it at least be honest and add a sign at its Cambridge front portal: Harvard, a Pentagon Annex.

If you’re wondering how he squares that latter idea with, say, World War II, let Wikipedia enlighten you, my friends. Jonah Goldberg and VDH are destroying this guy over at National Review, but given the sheer lameness of the piece — one of his ideas is for universities to institute degrees in “peace studies,” which sounds like a fine major for a heavily indebted student to pursue in this economy — their counterarguments feel like overkill. Here’s all you really need to know: Even at Yale, nearly 70 percent of students support the return of ROTC now that DADT has been repealed, with hundreds among them expressing interest in the program. Which is to say, even within safely liberal precincts, this sort of hostility to the program is way, way out there. In fact, I wonder what WaPo’s next op-ed idea for making liberals look buffoonish will be. Maybe a column calling on Alan Grayson to run for president? (Jackpot!) Exit question: Which “principles,” precisely, does McCarthy admire the Taliban for defending?


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Hey, you don’t suppose this was the real motivation behind all those university bans all along, do you?

Blacklake on December 30, 2010 at 5:52 PM

The most delicious irony of all is, perhaps, the fact that the VERY laws that they cited to avoid having to allow ROTCs on these campuses are the SAME laws which will now REQUIRE them to allow ROTCs on their campuses.

Karma – it’s what’s for breakfast….

TeresainFortWorth on December 30, 2010 at 5:56 PM

Ivy Leaguers should not have to lower themselves to such a low level. They are our best stock and most brilliant minds, and should be reserved for Senators & Presidents.

-Lib34CrryFins6GrowDryJimboBullet3well

portlandon on December 30, 2010 at 5:57 PM

How about we cutoff all gov money from ivy league.

PrezHussein on December 30, 2010 at 5:58 PM

asked if he actually believed there could be a Christian method of slaughtering people in combat, or a Christian way of firebombing cities, or a way to kill civilians in the name of Jesus. Did he think that if enough Notre Dame graduates became soldiers that the military would eventually embrace Christ’s teaching of loving one’s enemies?

I love how The Left always brings up the teachings of Christ when it’s related to rolling over and playing dead. Thankfully, the God of Israel wasn’t/isn’t a wuss. As it was written, he played for keeps; to win; not to “coexist”.

SouthernGent on December 30, 2010 at 5:58 PM

The military requires men to cut their hair. Universities should ban ROTC until hair justice has been achieved.

darwin on December 30, 2010 at 6:00 PM

General Patton is doing barrel rolls……..

RealMc on December 30, 2010 at 6:00 PM

foul idea that nations can kill and destroy their way to peace.

Worked in japan and germany.

the_nile on December 30, 2010 at 6:00 PM

I’ve heard liberals say that WaPo’s opinion page skews right

LOL, Media Matters whined about this last year. For “examples”, they cited how the WaPo “went after” Bill Clinton, “ignored” Chimpy Bush’s warrantless wiretaps, and “supported” Bush’s “invasion” of Iraq, which Congress signed off on.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/200909200013

What’s so hallucinogenic about this Media Matters “hit piece” is that the “author” offers many hyperlinked cites to support his position. Only one problem: ALL of the cites come from the same website that employs him.

F-

Del Dolemonte on December 30, 2010 at 6:02 PM

Exit question: Which “principles,” precisely, does McCarthy admire the Taliban for defending?

Subjugating women? Killing gays? Banning music and kite flying?

rbj on December 30, 2010 at 6:02 PM

To oppose ROTC, as I have since my college days in the 1960s,

There is the problem, those 60′s non-conformists that would have you strung out, dumbed down, and radicalized just can’t stand the idea of a free and strong country worth fighting and maybe dying for.

fourdeucer on December 30, 2010 at 6:03 PM

Even a bleeding heart pillow biting thumb sucking liberal like Colman McCarthy is still apt to seize upon a weapon and do extreme violence on his and/or his families behalf if the need to do so were to arise and confront him. However, the only thing he might have handy with which to defend himself is most likely a frozen quiche from the freezer or perhaps a bottle of White Lie Early Season Chardonnay.

For being quite the self-proclaimed intellectual, the mere concept of hope for the best but be prepared for the worst, and how utterly expert and effective America has become at being such, is completely lost on him.

FlatFoot on December 30, 2010 at 6:04 PM

Hippies are ghey.

BKeyser on December 30, 2010 at 6:04 PM

…trying to rise above the foul idea that nations can kill and destroy their way to peace.

The foul idea is that the absence of war means peace. “Those in blind pursuit of peace make war inevitable.”

DrMagnolias on December 30, 2010 at 6:04 PM

Colman McCarthy is just angry that the military still discriminates against cross-dressing pacifists that need extra time in the morning to apply their makeup and undergarments.

RBMN on December 30, 2010 at 6:05 PM

I bet if he was given a nice hefty grant he could come up with a whole Peace Studies curriculum. Shovel ready.

Cindy Munford on December 30, 2010 at 6:07 PM

Yeah right. Let’s just turn the Military over to High School dropouts. See how that works out…on the other hand, the way the elite Ivy leaguers have performed at running our businesses and governments…maybe we don’t want ROTC at those particular institutions..

moc23 on December 30, 2010 at 6:07 PM

What the Left learned from WWII was not to fight evil, but fighting is evil.

Tim Burton on December 30, 2010 at 6:11 PM

Lets see. Colleges don’t let ROTC on because of DADT. Now, since DADT is repealed, it appears the colleges are trying to “invent” a new reason to keep the ROTC barred from campus. Color me suprised! (NOT!)

Rndguy on December 30, 2010 at 6:12 PM

Colman McCarthy is just angry that the military still discriminates against cross-dressing pacifists that need extra time in the morning to apply their makeup and undergarments.

RBMN on December 30, 2010 at 6:05 PM

It’s time to end this discriminatory practice.

amerpundit on December 30, 2010 at 6:13 PM

I thought they banned the military from campus because of gay DADT. Silly me.

petefrt on December 30, 2010 at 6:14 PM

I think his main point is the military is a barrier to the progressives wet dream of weeding out the sick, weak, old and conservative to establish their golden thousand year utopia.

darwin on December 30, 2010 at 6:14 PM

Not surprised. Keep moving that bar.

hawkdriver on December 30, 2010 at 6:15 PM

Allahpundit, I am sad. I clicked on this post, eagerly awaiting to read a devastating snark-bombing of this A-hole and instead got splashed with weak-sauce.

Calling this tool a right-wing plant in order to make the left look bad? Please. You “made snowmen in the white drifts of Bloomberg’s agony” over some streets in NYC not getting plowed. You can do better than this.

Solid B+

Mord on December 30, 2010 at 6:15 PM

What the Left learned from WWII was not to fight evil, but fighting is evil.

Tim Burton on December 30, 2010 at 6:11 PM

Well, since the left is the evil you speak of, they probably learned it’s better not to have a military that would fight against it.

darwin on December 30, 2010 at 6:16 PM

Don’t they just get an exemption, anyway?

OldEnglish on December 30, 2010 at 6:16 PM

if by purity we mean trying to rise above the foul idea that nations can kill and destroy their way to peace.

Well, no, I don’t think anyone, anywhere uses ‘purity’ in that sense.

LASue on December 30, 2010 at 6:17 PM

You can tell a civilization is in a death spiral when people like Colman McCarthy survive their adolescence. There are no end-runs around Darwin’s law.

Immolate on December 30, 2010 at 6:19 PM

Next oppressive liberal outrage:

No ROTC until foreign nationals are granted citizenship for themselves and their families immediately upon joining the military and signing on the dotted line.

darwin on December 30, 2010 at 6:19 PM

I admire those who join armies, whether America’s or the Taliban’s:

There you go. All cultures are equal.

Let’s all join hands and sing Kumbaya.

BowHuntingTexas on December 30, 2010 at 6:19 PM

I admire those who join armies, whether America’s or the Taliban’s:

Right here is where my “OMG, This guy’s a moron!” meter pegged.

I love how The Left always brings up the teachings of Christ when it’s related to rolling over and playing dead. Thankfully, the God of Israel wasn’t/isn’t a wuss. As it was written, he played for keeps; to win; not to “coexist”.

SouthernGent on December 30, 2010 at 5:58 PM

Whenever secular humanist leftards bring up Jesus as a canard (and that’s all they ever do with Him), I immediately respond thus:

“Oh, so you hold the teachings of Jesus in very high regard? What about where He said, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man comes to the Father except through me.”

Typical leftard response: “Uhhhh…..”

CurtZHP on December 30, 2010 at 6:19 PM

You can tell a civilization is in a death spiral when people like Colman McCarthy survive their adolescence. There are no end-runs around Darwin’s law.

Immolate on December 30, 2010 at 6:19 PM

If common sense prevailed this moron never would have been hired to begin with.

darwin on December 30, 2010 at 6:20 PM

Check out Instapundit’s site. He has a great response from a reader.

“The state that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools.”

Go check it out, several other smart comments.

Mord on December 30, 2010 at 6:20 PM

Which “principles,” precisely, does McCarthy admire the Taliban for defending?

Death to America!

I’m sorry, was that meant to be rhetorical?

trubble on December 30, 2010 at 6:23 PM

Mord on December 30, 2010 at 6:20 PM

That’s a funny quote, but the truth is that the military consistently produces intelligent, moral, capable leaders.

Immolate on December 30, 2010 at 6:23 PM

That’s a funny quote, but the truth is that the military consistently produces intelligent, moral, capable leaders.

You mean like John McCain? John Kerry? Ollie North?

Grow Fins on December 30, 2010 at 6:30 PM

How about we cutoff all gov money from ivy league.

PrezHussein on December 30, 2010 at 5:58 PM

Agree 100000…………%.

Bambi on December 30, 2010 at 6:31 PM

What’s so hallucinogenic about this Media Matters “hit piece” is that the “author” offers many hyperlinked cites to support his position. Only one problem: ALL of the cites come from the same website that employs him.

F-

Del Dolemonte on December 30, 2010 at 6:02 PM

following one link to find another can sometimes be extremely difficult to carry out. i’m not surprised you failed.

sesquipedalian on December 30, 2010 at 6:31 PM

Next oppressive liberal outrage:

No ROTC until foreign nationals are granted citizenship for themselves and their families immediately upon joining the military and signing on the dotted line.

darwin on December 30, 2010 at 6:19 PM

Actually many foreign nationals can and do earn a fast track to citizenship by service in the U.S. military.

I believe that it is something like 12-18 months in service you can apply for citizenship. But please correct me if I’m wrong.

SgtSVJones on December 30, 2010 at 6:33 PM

No problem. When the flower throwers and the Paulites hold a triumph for their conquerors we can all just relax in the knowledge that we did the right thing.

Limerick on December 30, 2010 at 6:36 PM

sesquipedalian on December 30, 2010 at 6:31 PM

Troll extraordinaire.

FO

CWforFreedom on December 30, 2010 at 6:39 PM

Credence Clearwater Revival said it all. I Ain’t No Fortunate Son

Wade on December 30, 2010 at 6:39 PM

Grow Fins on December 30, 2010 at 6:30 PM

There is nothing wrong with Sen. McCain or Col. North. Now Sen. Kerry, on the other hand, will throw or retrieve his military service and medals depending on his perception of the tone of the country at his latest election attempt.

Cindy Munford on December 30, 2010 at 6:39 PM

Yeah, like anybody with an IQ higher than room temperature really bought the lib canard about “It’s because of how they treat gays!” and not the despicable truth of “In the end, it’s really a simple matter of fact that we absolutely despise our military.”…

SuperCool on December 30, 2010 at 6:39 PM

“In the end, it’s really a simple matter of fact that we absolutely despise our military.”…

SuperCool on December 30, 2010 at 6:39 PM

In spite of which those who serve just shake their head and still serve.

How long, I wonder.

Limerick on December 30, 2010 at 6:42 PM

Immolate on December 30, 2010 at 6:23 PM

Oh it sure does! There are several follow-up quotes disproving that one. I just thought it would be evocative.

Even enlisted service members qualify for several college credits simply from completing schooling for their particular MOS. I believe that the popular lefty narrative of “he couldn’t make it, so he had to join the military” is 100% propaganda. An educated and confident man will have no master unless he chooses one.

I was constantly frustrated by how lazy people are in the civilian work force after I got out. I’m not trying to say that I’m better as a person (far from it!) I’m just saying that I was shocked at how lenient employers where to sloth and ineptitude. Employers LOVE veterans, in my personal experience.

Mord on December 30, 2010 at 6:42 PM

Mord on December 30, 2010 at 6:42 PM

Brats are usually good works too.

CWforFreedom on December 30, 2010 at 6:45 PM

SgtSVJones on December 30, 2010 at 6:33 PM

I Had a Korean that was in my shop. He got citizenship about 9 months after I got there. We all had a big party for him, then went back to work an hour later, lol.

He immigrated through the regular legal system.

Mord on December 30, 2010 at 6:47 PM

He immigrated through the regular legal system.

Mord on December 30, 2010 at 6:47 PM

Welcome, Kim. Beer and brauts to you and yours.

Limerick on December 30, 2010 at 6:49 PM

You mean like John McCain? John Kerry? Ollie North?

Grow Fins on December 30, 2010 at 6:30 PM

What do you have against Ollie North?

ladyingray on December 30, 2010 at 6:56 PM

In spite of which those who serve just shake their head and still serve.

How long, I wonder.

Limerick on December 30, 2010 at 6:42 PM

So long as there are noble souls amongst us who do it not for some sense of supposed “piety” or prestige or privilage or the sorts of things that matter to the pretentious tools in their Ivy covered enclaves of empty thought, rather do so out a sense of honor and duty.

It’s what makes them heroes. They’re willing to die for all of us, not just the appreciative, but even the scumbags that hate them.

I can’t find a more honorable group of people on the face of the earth than America’s service men and women.

SuperCool on December 30, 2010 at 6:58 PM

That’s a funny quote, but the truth is that the military consistently produces intelligent, moral, capable leaders.

You mean like John McCain? John Kerry? Ollie North?

Grow Fins on December 30, 2010 at 6:30 PM

Funny thing, kid-a hardcore Leftist friend of mine was musing yesterday on Facebook…he was watching old Jimmy Stewart movies, and said he wished that Jimmy had become President in 1980 instead of the evil Ronnie Reagan.

He shut up real quick when I reminded him that Stewart was on a bombing mission over North Vietnam.

Del Dolemonte on December 30, 2010 at 6:58 PM

What’s so hallucinogenic about this Media Matters “hit piece” is that the “author” offers many hyperlinked cites to support his position. Only one problem: ALL of the cites come from the same website that employs him.

F-

Del Dolemonte on December 30, 2010 at 6:02 PM

following one link to find another can sometimes be extremely difficult to carry out. i’m not surprised you failed.

sesquipedalian on December 30, 2010 at 6:31 PM

Why didn’t he just post the original links to begin with, the way that every other blogger from Eric Alterman to Glenn Reynolds does in their posts?

Simple-because he was just as lazy as your “response”.

G+

Del Dolemonte on December 30, 2010 at 7:00 PM

In the 50′s we had the courageous Sen. Joe McCarthy exposing Liberals as the Communists they really were.

Now, in the 10′s we have this McCarthy exposing himself as a Libtard who is really a Hate Amerika Kommunist. This assklown is giving McCarthyism a bad name!

CatchAll on December 30, 2010 at 7:01 PM

A mind is a terrible thing to waste. This guy gets paid to write this stuff. What a country.

Mason on December 30, 2010 at 7:03 PM

He shut up real quick when I reminded him that Stewart was on a bombing mission over North Vietnam.

Del Dolemonte on December 30, 2010 at 6:58 PM

HAHAHAHA! Awesome!

Wouldn’t it be great if Movies that praised our men and women in uniform made more money than Movies that make them look like “victims of the system”? [assume "massive sarcasm voice" was in use for last sentence]

Mord on December 30, 2010 at 7:07 PM

He shut up real quick when I reminded him that Stewart was on a bombing mission over North Vietnam.

Del Dolemonte on December 30, 2010 at 6:58 PM

HAHAHAHA! Awesome!

Wouldn’t it be great if Movies that praised our men and women in uniform made more money than Movies that make them look like “victims of the system”? [assume "massive sarcasm voice" was in use for last sentence]

Mord on December 30, 2010 at 7:07 PM

I think at one time they did make such films.

BTW, I also reminded my friend that during his service time in WW2, Stewart actually reported to Ronald Reagan.

BTW Stewart flew as an observer on the bombing flight over North Vietnam.

Del Dolemonte on December 30, 2010 at 7:17 PM

If you were a conservative looking to discredit ROTC opponents, what sort of leftist would you recruit for an op-ed? How about a guy who dismisses ROTC classes as “softie courses” literally two sentences after praising race/gender/LGBT identity studies?

AP this story of yours practically wrote itself, didn’t it?

That aside, keep in mind that these same students will be rising in the ranks of leadership over the years in the military. Prepare for more unintended consequences, though most will actually never know what hit them.

scotash on December 30, 2010 at 7:21 PM

Yep, about had it with these colleges taking our tax dollars while they are nothing but brain washing machines for Liberalism. While we’re busy defunding socialist programs in 2011, might just as well admit that these college’s are a socialist program and defund them as well.

Keemo on December 30, 2010 at 7:24 PM

It is really good to talk to someone who has the nads that are so foreign to you and some have no idea what it takes to do what they do. Maybe we could call it God worship. Trying to explain it to someone who has no spline or nads is like trying to explain color to a blind person. The ROTC should save their breath and ignore the banter of people who don’t understand the way the world works. They think their conversations will bring the peace to the world unknowingly that they are waiting for you to shut up and then cut your head off.

mixplix on December 30, 2010 at 7:25 PM

From Instapundit

UPDATE: Reader Jason Johnson sends this Thucydides quote: “The state that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools.”

Cindy Munford on December 30, 2010 at 7:35 PM

ROTC is safe. It has survived far more onerous times and remains a positive fixture in college life.

lexhamfox on December 30, 2010 at 7:41 PM

How about we cutoff all gov money from ivy league.
PrezHussein on December 30, 2010 at 5:58 PM

Government should mandate that every institution that receives government money / tax exemption from government MUST have ROTC centers.

Exit question: Which “principles,” precisely, does McCarthy admire the Taliban for defending?

1>Beheading
2>Stoning
3>Keeping boys
4>Killing
5>Enslaving women
6>Ban music
7>Ban shaving
8>Suicide bombings
9>Drug trafficking

antisocial on December 30, 2010 at 7:42 PM

Hmmmm……always amazes me that the liberal left has no problem labeling ‘the military’ as WARMONGERS.

And here all this time I thought it was the politicians – you know, the ones educated at liberal northeastern universities – who started wars.

Matter of fact, some of our most famous traitors of WWII and the Cold War came from these same fine institutions of higher learning.

GarandFan on December 30, 2010 at 7:43 PM

I swear….all the weed these hippy dippies smoked in their hey day, has caused them some mental deficiencies. *rolling eyes*

capejasmine on December 30, 2010 at 7:53 PM

“The state that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools.”

If its scholars are studying LGBT/racial studies, they’re cowards and fools both.

The fighting will not be done by fools, it will be done by very practical men.

A scholar who produces nothing is still a scholar. A warrior who produces nothing dies, and his nation with him. The warrior has an imperative incentive to excel. The scholar has incentive to obfuscate, lie, and blather. The scholar is rewarded with tenure. The warrior is rewarded with his life.


On a tangent here, I may be the only one who still plays Rise of Nations, but when I’ve reached my knowledge resource quota and developed all the tech I need, I kinda enjoy turning the scholars into militia and sending them marching to their doom. It’s actually kinda fun, in a Stalin/Mao/Pol Pot sort of way. When you need to free up population slots for productive citizens or military troops, you can either just “delete” the scholars, wherein they simply die, or you can militarize them into weak military units and send them off to perish, as they are inevitably inadequate to the task of fighting.

Sure, perhaps not very nice, but cathartic video game fiction when you read a story like this.

CPL 310 on December 30, 2010 at 7:56 PM

Exactly why opposing the repeal of DADT was so silly to begin with.

The quickest way to defang the lefts “counterculture” agenda is to demand the same accountability and conformity from within the same system they used to revile.

rickyricardo on December 30, 2010 at 7:58 PM

I wish I had followed my first instinct and tweeted my prediction that the leftists would find a new reason to ban ROTC.

It’s no surprise that it’s coming from the trap of Colman McCarthy. Here’s a golden oldie from this uberlib courtesy of James Taranto’s “Best of the Web Today” circa October 2003 about a speech McCarthy gave to an audience of teachers at the U.S. Institute of Peace. The following is what was written in Teacher magazine about what happened when he finished (bold, italics mine):

McCarthy reluctantly wrapped up his speech at the 45-minute mark and was mobbed by several teachers who wanted to buy his books. Another group gathered in the back of the room to discuss what they’d just heard. While agreeing that McCarthy’s in-your-face comments wouldn’t fly with most school boards or parents, they excitedly talked about how radical pacifist ideas could enliven their own classes.

An elegant-looking teacher in her 40s wandered up and joined the conversation. The truth, she said conspiratorially, is that when you close your classroom door, you’re in charge and there’s a lot you can get away with. The others nodded in agreement.

Suddenly, the teacher registered with alarm that a reporter’s tape recorder was running. She declared that her comments were off the record and abruptly walked away from the group. Reconsidering their candor, one by one other teachers in the circle requested that their comments, too, be considered off the record. Peace may have a chance in America’s schools. But at least for now, the revolution will not be broadcast.

L.N. Smithee on December 30, 2010 at 8:25 PM

I admire those who join armies, whether America’s or the Taliban’s

This is ignorant on so many levels that it is scary.
Mr. “Peace and Love” admires the Taliban army that engages in some of the most barbaric acts against civilians since the Nazi’s.

………How progressive.

I bet “Mr. I never met a terrorist I didn’t respect” here gets his panties all twisted up when it comes to water boarding though.

I learned that the ROTC academics were laughably weak. They were softie courses.

…Well he!! yes Mr. progressive….
Our men and women who were preparing themselves for the front lines of war could never match up to the hard core liberals like yourself that brave the coffee shops and violin recitals from sea to shining sea.

Baxter Greene on December 30, 2010 at 9:07 PM

ROTC and its warrior ethic taint the intellectual purity of a school, if by purity we mean trying to rise above the foul idea that nations can kill and destroy their way to peace.


One Soldier has done more for the spread of Freedom around the world than all the liberal activists combined.

Baxter Greene on December 30, 2010 at 9:09 PM

The left finds one reason after another to prevent ROTC on the campuses infested with the Marxist academics. They will come up with another reason before the next academic year begins.

crosspatch on December 30, 2010 at 9:23 PM

The ROTC officers in training are learning to defend the Republic against the Muslims today so that they do not exercise their religious beliefs here by beheading, stoning to death or torturing and sodomizing the Godless Liberals tomorrow!

dhunter on December 30, 2010 at 9:32 PM

Anybody taken a look at the comments on the piece in the Washington Post? 899 comments as of my last check of which 99% are very critical.

My comment (last night at that) was as follows:

Good lord. The offended intellectual arrogance and bias of this writer practically drips from his words. His attitude of how dare those grubby military officers in training taint the hallowed halls of academe with their presence is in itself a symptom of sheer outright idiocy.

Sorry but his arguments are not only unconvincing but fundamentally flawed. As much as I would want to wish otherwise we will have need of a military for as long as nation states remain nation states. I would far rather have those rough men that stand ready to give their lives in our defense to be out there standing guard than the opposite case.

werehawk on December 30, 2010 at 10:11 PM

This Jackass should take his Non-violent studies class to Afghanistan and Pakistan and try teaching it to the Taliban and Al Qaeda!

The students enrolled and receiving scholarships in ROTC are among the best and brightest. They don’t make their commission if they do not have decent grades, mental toughness, integrity, and obey the law.

All a tall order for liberals of any strip!

dhunter on December 30, 2010 at 11:22 PM

I admire those who join armies, whether America’s or the Taliban’s

Sayet is right. Liberals inevitably side with evil over good in order to not be seen as discriminatory.

If this lack of intellectual honesty is what passes as “intellectual” in modern academia then our soldiers are better off without it.

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on December 30, 2010 at 11:26 PM

Those who will not fight to defend their liberty have already lost it.

profitsbeard on December 31, 2010 at 1:16 AM

So with repeal of DADT college campi have lost their fig leaf argument against ROTC. Yes it will be humorous to watch lefty ivory tower academia grabbing at straws and straw men to cover their shrunken anti-military genitalia.

exdeadhead on December 31, 2010 at 5:06 AM

You mean like John McCain? John Kerry? Ollie North?

Grow Fins on December 30, 2010 at 6:30 PM

I don’t get your problem with North, but for the other two, their military service is by far the most honorable thing they’ve ever done. Not sure why you think disparaging those who have served will help any argument you have here.

Esthier on December 31, 2010 at 12:57 PM

I did not know that universities were supposed to be institutions of “intellectual purity.” Oddly enough, I thought that they were supposed to be places of intellectual challenge, not of indoctrination. Of course, the type of “intellectual purity” that springs from the mind of Mr McCarthy includes this gem:

Hitler could have been waited out. He might have been overthrown by his own government. Who knows? To have 50 million people killed : Hitler would have died within 10 years no matter what he did.

As it happened, the world did try to wait out der Führer; the United States, the United Kingdom, the Republic of France, none of them declared war on the Third Reich until Germany invaded Poland. The United Kingdom and the Republic of France actually traded (someone else’s) land for “peace in (their) time” rather than to go to war; it still didn’t work.

And when the Third Reich invaded the Soviet Union, seeking lebensraum, well, heck, we could have waited still. It’s not like the then-52 year old Chancellor of Germany would have lived until he was 72, and ruled 200 million people until 1961 or anything like that; it’s not like a repressive dictatorship would have any successors to der Führer and survived beyond Adolf Hitler’s death.

Heck, if we had followed Mr McCarthy’s prescriptions, we wouldn’t have an Arab-Israeli crisis; the Nazis had an interesting way of avoiding that!

Dana on January 1, 2011 at 8:00 PM

Colman McCarthy just one of those charlatans with a big ego and a bigger mouth.

He teaches “peace” at Universities and High Schools in the Washington area? What are his credentials, writing opeds for the WaPo?

Excuse me if I find this less than impressive.

Notice that all these people teaching “peace” are doing so in peaceful places.

How about sending a bunch of them to “teach peace” in the Congo? There’s a ‘conflict” that has taken millions of lives without any American help. Or maybe the on going “conflict” between Armenia and Azerbaijan? Good former citizens of the Soviet Union who have benefited by being taught the ways of socialism for 50 years or more?

Teach them “peace” before you start running your mouth about American ROTC.

schmuck281 on January 1, 2011 at 10:23 PM

Exit question: Which “principles,” precisely, does McCarthy admire the Taliban for defending?

Exercising daily, living only among Men in strict discipline without the distraction of women.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Observation on January 2, 2011 at 4:05 AM