CNN poll: The GOP’s got a fee-vah and the only prescription is more Mike Huckabee!

posted at 4:14 pm on December 28, 2010 by Allahpundit

Like a pipin’ hot bowl of chicken soup on a frosty winter day, this shameless bit of traffic bait during the slowest news cycle of the year is mmm mmm good.

I know this guy’s enjoying his TV show and the chance to interview Jon Voight every other week, but if his polls are still this rosy five months from now, he’ll really have no choice but to run, right?

In the battle for the GOP presidential nomination, the survey suggests Palin may have some work to do if she throws her hat in the ring. Only 49 percent of Republicans say that they are likely to support Sen. John McCain’s running mate in 2008 for the Republican nomination in 2012.

“That’s a huge 18-point drop since December of 2008, when two-thirds of GOPers said they were likely to support Palin. It also puts her well behind potential rivals Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney, and a bit behind Newt Gingrich as well,” adds Holland.

Two-thirds of Republicans questioned say they would likely support Huckabee as their nominee in 2012. The former Arkansas governor and 2008 GOP presidential candidate is considering another bid for the White House. So is another candidate from the last election, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney. Fifty-nine percent of Republicans say they would likely support Romney. That number drops to 54 percent for former House Speaker Newt Gingrich of Georgia, who is also contemplating a run for the White House.

Spend a minute skimming the crosstabs. It’s no surprise that Mitt and Huck do much better with self-described moderate Republicans than Palin does (fully 50 percent say they’re not likely at all to support her), but they actually outperform her among conservative Republicans too. Romney’s numbers are only slightly better but Huckabee’s are dramatically so — a combined 74/25 split among those who say they’re likely/not likely to support him versus a 62/37 split for Romney and a 58/41 split for Palin. To some extent that’s a product of Mitt’s and Huck’s weaknesses being less well known at this point, even to the base, than Palin’s are, but nearly all conservatives polled had some knowledge of all three. Only one percent of cons said they had no opinion of Huckabee or Romney.

The tea party numbers are fascinating too. Here’s how they break down for Palin:

And for Romney:

And for Huck:

Same counterintuitive results among self-described tea party supporters as among self-described conservatives: Huckabee leads big, followed by Romney and then Palin right behind. That stands to reason given the heavy overlap between “tea partiers” and “conservatives,” but I didn’t think it’d be quite that heavy. I guess DeMint was right that the balance within the tea party between fiscal and social conservatism isn’t as lopsided as libertarians believe. Either that, or perceptions about Palin’s qualifications and/or electability run so deep even within her own de facto base that TPers would rather roll the dice on health-care apostate Mitt Romney than on her.

In other news from the crosstabs, the number of Democrats who say Obama should be renominated stands at a robust 78 percent, more than 20 points higher than the number who answered the same way for Bill Clinton when asked this question in 1994. The next time some dopey liberal who’s angry about the public option or the estate tax starts grumbling about a primary challenge, please do laugh right in their face. Exit question one: How is a guy who managed 32 measly votes in the Hot Air mega-poll about 2012 cleaning up among tea partiers and conservatives? I realize our readership isn’t necessarily representative of the base, but it should be a little representative. Exit question two: Given that this poll makes Huckabee more likely to run and thus to split the social conservative vote with Palin, you know who these numbers really benefit? You guessed it!

Update: Not the only discouraging poll for Sarahcuda today, either.


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Gomer: Surprise, surprise, surprise!

faraway on May 21, 2013 at 10:06 PM

And, Lois Lerner would appreciate it if we didn’t “embarrass or burden” her, y’all.

And this sentence is why I always love to read MKH, even if I don’t always agree with her stance on things.

I always get the feeling I’m having a dialogue with a friend across the dinner table while reading her pieces.

ButterflyDragon on May 21, 2013 at 10:08 PM

Hot D*mn,

another IceBergy!!

canopfor on May 21, 2013 at 10:09 PM

let’s hope the R staffers can incorporate some of this for the questions tomorrow

r keller on May 21, 2013 at 10:09 PM

Queue Gomer Pyle: “Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!”

SouthernGent on May 21, 2013 at 10:11 PM

Keep hoping each of these events has enough legs to wake up the bulk of American citizens. With the IRS and its intrusiveness into each and everyone’s lives [due to the 16'th amendment,not something the founders would have implemented], this looks like it might actually smack some people upside the head and wake them up. All we have to do is ask democrats how they feel when a Republican administration does this in the future.

AZfederalist on May 21, 2013 at 10:12 PM

Oops……

IRS flagged conservative political groups Ex-Cincinnati IRS official doubts agency’s explanation for Tea Party scandal – @NBCNews

Submitted 55 mins ago from openchannel.nbcnews.com by editor
============================================================

http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/21/18404474-ex-cincy-irs-official-doubts-agencys-explanation-for-tea-party-scandal?lite

canopfor on May 21, 2013 at 10:12 PM

The idea that this targeting practice was isolated in some off-shoot Ohio office was preposterous from the beginning.

Apparently, Lois Lerner draws a distinction between preposterous statements made for media consumption and preposterous statements made under oath.

Curtiss on May 21, 2013 at 10:14 PM

Y’know, if Romney had won we probably wouldn’t be discussing these issues this way. There definitely wouldn’t be the public disgrace and media coverage, and, if (D)s were somehow forced into it by open disregard for the office and the law, the humiliation of impeachment.
 
Looks like there was a bright side in Obama’s re-election after all.

rogerb on May 21, 2013 at 10:14 PM

Obama order all of this from the get-go. Even the Three Monkeys of Oblivion and Sgt. Shultz caught on quite some time ago.

VorDaj on May 21, 2013 at 10:16 PM

Ah, new picture on front page. That’s good, the IRS building is kind of an ugly, plain building.

/But I’m sure the dungeons are deep

AZfederalist on May 21, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Even potted plants and boxes of rocks have figured out that it was Herr Obama all along.

VorDaj on May 21, 2013 at 10:19 PM

This looks like a good place for Lois Lerner to spend the next 10 years.

http://www.bop.gov/locations/institutions/ald/index.jsp

redguy on May 21, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Hopey the Domestic Warrior,
is in a IRS Death Struggle,

in a InEquality Social Justice Crusade!!
(sarc)

canopfor on May 21, 2013 at 10:19 PM

I am shocked, shocked, that everything we have been told is a lie. Everything.

I used to dismiss conspiracy theories out of hand and consider the administration innocent until proven guilty. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, etc., etc., all that. From now on, my operating principle when it comes to the Obama administration is that all accusations are true until proven otherwise; and that, whatever the allegations are now, ultimately the truth will be even worse.

Hayabusa on May 21, 2013 at 10:20 PM

And, Lois Lerner would appreciate it if we didn’t “embarrass or burden” her, y’all.

They had better humiliate her to oblivion – on national television. And she should be thankful that we live in a civilized age – in olden days, she’d be getting worse treatment than a simple public embarrassment.

Midas on May 21, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Y’know, if Romney had won we probably wouldn’t be discussing these issues this way. There definitely wouldn’t be the public disgrace and media coverage, and, if (D)s were somehow forced into it by open disregard for the office and the law, the humiliation of impeachment.

Looks like there was a bright side in Obama’s re-election after all.

rogerb on May 21, 2013 at 10:14 PM

If you consider facing international embarrassment and a total loss of faith in any part of the government to be a bright side. But sunlight is the most effective disinfectant. So you kinda are right.

Quite a few Dems will probably break ranks and start calling for impeachment before Whacko Bird McCant and his My Friends Wing of the GOPe do so.

Myron Falwell on May 21, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Even potted plants and boxes of rocks have figured out that it was Herr Obama all along.

VorDaj on May 21, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Come on. Obama didn’t know anything about the IRS targeting until he read in reports from the Media that he was spying on.

Curtiss on May 21, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Obama order all of this from the get-go. Even the Three Monkeys of Oblivion and Sgt. Shultz caught on quite some time ago.

VorDaj on May 21, 2013 at 10:16 PM

Man, where’s the thumbs up button on here?

chewydog on May 21, 2013 at 10:21 PM

…and that, whatever the allegations are now, ultimately the truth will be even worse.

Hayabusa on May 21, 2013 at 10:20 PM

Wow, ain’t that the truth? Every one of these things has been played out to a script – lead with a watered down version of the story, then release a bit more, a bit more, a bit more… There’s no question that whatever they tell us, the truth is certainly far worse.

Midas on May 21, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Obama created the climate for draconian tactics.

IRS paper pushers were unleashed to terrorize Obama political opponents to get the azz hat reelected so he would hire more IRS terrorist paper pushers with fat pensions.

SparkPlug on May 21, 2013 at 10:22 PM

People laughed when I said Obama stole the election.

He stole it right out from everyone’s eyes.

John the Libertarian on May 21, 2013 at 10:23 PM

just when we thought the USS Liberal was invincible she takes a broadside from the the torpedo of Reality

DanMan on May 21, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Lerner was playing “pick a target” way back to the ’90′s.
http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/irs-official-who-targeted-tea-party-also-targeted-conservative-groups-at-fec/

onlineanalyst on May 21, 2013 at 10:25 PM

Even potted plants and boxes of rocks have figured out that it was Herr Obama all along.

VorDaj on May 21, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Come on. Obama didn’t know anything about the IRS targeting until he read in reports from the Media that he was spying on.

Curtiss on May 21, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Let me be clear. At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing or to whom they were doing it. Anyone who says differently is a conspiracy theorist wacko and a racist.

VorDaj on May 21, 2013 at 10:25 PM

Why can’t I get on the internet and find a g-d org chart of the IRS? We are paying their too-high salaries and lavish benefits. Leave out the names of the first-line workers, but show us ALL management.

slickwillie2001 on May 21, 2013 at 10:25 PM

Myron Falwell

McCain is too busy right now voting on the immigration bill.

luckybogey on May 21, 2013 at 10:25 PM

Breaking News

Sherlock just phoned in, he said “No Shit”.

msupertas on May 21, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Hopey the Domestic Warrior,
is in a IRS Death Struggle,

in a InEquality Social Justice Crusade!!
(sarc)

canopfor on May 21, 2013 at 10:19 PM

In light of what the Marxist messiah has done your words are not an exaggeration.

Well done.

SparkPlug on May 21, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Come on. Obama didn’t know anything about the IRS targeting until he read in reports from the Media that he was spying on.

Curtiss on May 21, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Oh man. I’m stealing that for sure.

John the Libertarian on May 21, 2013 at 10:29 PM

And, Lois Lerner would appreciate it if we didn’t “embarrass or burden” her, y’all.

They had better humiliate her to oblivion – on national television. And she should be thankful that we live in a civilized age – in olden days, she’d be getting worse treatment than a simple public embarrassment.

Midas on May 21, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Doesn’t a claim of the Fifth actually have to be made out loud in the committee or courtroom by the witness/accused for it to be valid?

I didn’t think it could be sort of ‘emailed-in’.

In any case the people have a right to see her and hear her own voice make that claim.

slickwillie2001 on May 21, 2013 at 10:30 PM

It would have to be. How else could Clintoon get all of his various political opponents, ex-girlfriends and probable rape victims audited?

viking01 on May 21, 2013 at 10:30 PM

If you see a lib just say hope n change. That’s all you gotta do. I say that to my lib friends. I just say hope n change. They know down deep Obama is a farce and they fell for his hope n change.

SparkPlug on May 21, 2013 at 10:31 PM

Fox19 does it again. http://www.fox19.com/story/22380127/reality-check-exclusive-cincinnati-agent-giving-orders-in-irs-scandal
“Cindy Thomas, the highest ranking employee in Cincinnati in this Tax Exempt and Government Entities Department that no one in Congress is talking to… yet.”

jcoop22 on May 21, 2013 at 10:31 PM

This is all so obvious. Even Sylvia Brown can figure it out.

Myron Falwell on May 21, 2013 at 10:31 PM

Let’s cut to the chase here, does anyone really believe this White House, the Democrats, and Axelrod and company, didn’t do what it took to get Obama re-elected? Let’s start with that, as a premise, and move on from there.

Nothing, and I really mean nothing, would surprise me about the 2012 election. That the unemployed, under-employed, college students in debt, Republicans, Conservatives, Tea Party people, and every other group openly opposed to Obama, wouldn’t show up because Mitt Romney was the nominee, just isn’t ringing true. If it does, something’s wrong.

The bottom line is, there is no way this election was legitimate. The Democrats held the Senate and Obama won an election using the IRS to target the opposition. I certainly hope they’re proud of their accomplishment.

bflat879 on May 21, 2013 at 10:33 PM

The IRS, DOJ , EPA, , DHS,
HHS and google have that “no sh!t” on file.

Funny how absolutely nothing the gubmint does is.

wolly4321 on May 21, 2013 at 10:33 PM

The idea that this targeting practice was isolated in some off-shoot Ohio office was preposterous from the beginning.
——————————————————-

If one remembers,after the 2012 Prez Election,Democrats
were all giddy,about DESTROYING THE GOP!!

So,how many PLANS did they have!

EXHIBIT A.B.C.:
***************

Dems “want to destroy” Republicans because of pro-life

positions …www.jillstanek.com/…/pro-life-activist-democrats-cant-stand-republicans…‎CachedMar 1, 2013 – “Democrats want to destroy the Republican Party because of their pro-life stand.” ~ Alfonzo Rachel, PJTV.
====================

Annihilate! Obama’s very secret plot to end the Republican Party

http://www.newrepublic.com/…/republican-self-pity-obamas-secret-plot-end-g…‎CachedFeb 27, 2013 – The GOP, which once delighted in mocking Democratic sissies, … in Slate, urging Obama to “destroy” the Republican Party if he wants his …
======================================================

Is Obama Trying to Destroy the GOP? -

NationalJournal.comwww.nationaljournal.com/…/is-obama-trying-to-destroy-the-go…‎Cachedby Jill Lawrence
Jan 22, 2013 – The president pokes at the GOP and asks citizens to put the pressure on. … foreign policy and Republicans who want to extend the 11-year U.S. … Bush believed in those causes and peeled off as many Democrats as he could …

http://www.google.ca/#sclient=psy-ab&site=&source=hp&q=Democrats+want+to+Destroy+the+GOP&oq=Democrats+want+to+Destroy+the+GOP&gs_l=hp.12..33i29i30.25750.46469.0.50594.39.30.3.0.0.0.1719.23906.3-3j2j9j10j4j2.30.0…0.0…1c.1.14.psy-ab.oL5gtYT8T2k&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.&bvm=bv.46751780,d.aWc&fp=6627f96ec372d565&biw=1024&bih=550

canopfor on May 21, 2013 at 10:34 PM

Meanwhile the traitors pass the bill to shouts of “Yes we can.”

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_IMMIGRATION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-05-21-19-56-11

WASHINGTON (AP) — Far-reaching legislation that grants a chance at citizenship to millions of immigrants living illegally (LAWBREAKERS) in the United States cleared the Senate Judiciary Committee on a solid bipartisan vote Tuesday night after supporters somberly sidestepped a controversy over the rights of gay spouses.

The 13-5 vote cleared the way for an epic showdown on the Senate floor on legislation that is one of President Barack Obama’s top domestic priorities Adding voters that vote Democrat by a 70/30 margin – yet also gives the Republican Party a chance to recast destroy itself as more appealing to minorities.

The action sparked rejoicing from immigration activists TRAITORS led by LARAZA who crowded into a Senate committee room to witness the proceedings. “Yes, we can! Si, se puede” they shouted, reprising the campaign cry from Obama’s first run for the White House in 2008.

In addition to creating a pathway to citizenship for 11.5 20 million immigrants LAWBREAKERS, the legislation creates a new program for low-skilled foreign labor and would permit highly skilled workers into the country at far higher levels than is currently the case (well duh, there are another 30 million in Mexico just waiting to get on the TEAT of UNCLE SAM).

At the same time, it requires the government to take costly new steps to guard against future illegal immigration (LOLOLOLOLOLOL).

In a statement, Obama said the measure is “largely consistent with the principles of common-sense reform I have proposed and meets the challenge of fixing our broken immigration system THAT WE BROKE because we won’t enforce the laws on the books now and just seal the border.”


There you go……….still think the gop is worth saving?

Viva the new wave of cheap labor latched onto the teat of Uncle Sam and draining away your social security and medicare benefits you’ve paid for.

Welcome to the Northern Meh-he-koh!!

PappyD61 on May 21, 2013 at 10:34 PM

VorDaj on May 21, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Come on. Obama didn’t know anything about the IRS targeting until he read in reports from the Media that he was spying on.

Curtiss on May 21, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Why, was it in the sports pages?

onlineanalyst on May 21, 2013 at 10:34 PM

If you see a lib just say hope n change. That’s all you gotta do. I say that to my lib friends. I just say hope n change. They know down deep Obama is a farce and they fell for his hope n change.

SparkPlug on May 21, 2013 at 10:31 PM

On your encounters with them, do you get them impression that it’s generally starting to sink in? Or are they still in MSNBC-esque denial?

Myron Falwell on May 21, 2013 at 10:35 PM

Let me be clear. At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing or to whom they were doing it. Anyone who says differently is a conspiracy theorist wacko and a racist.

VorDaj on May 21, 2013 at 10:25 PM

The Obama Administration is using the Richard “Racehorse” Haynes method of arguing the alternative. It goes like this:

Say you sue me because you say my dog bit you. Well, now this is my defense:
1. My dog doesn’t bite.
2. And second, in the alternative, my dog was tied up that night.
3. And third, I don’t believe you really got bit.
4. And fourth, I don’t have a dog.

At this point, they’re at the “I don’t have a dog” stage.

Curtiss on May 21, 2013 at 10:36 PM

What did President Idi Amin not know and when did he not know it?

viking01 on May 21, 2013 at 10:36 PM

This is all so obvious. Even Sylvia Brown can figure it out.

Myron Falwell on May 21, 2013 at 10:31 PM

Myron Falwell:Lol-:O

canopfor on May 21, 2013 at 10:37 PM

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/traitor

trai·tor (trtr)
n.
One who betrays one’s country, a cause, or a trust, especially one who commits treason.

PappyD61 on May 21, 2013 at 10:37 PM

McCain is too busy right now voting on the immigration bill.

luckybogey on May 21, 2013 at 10:25 PM

He and Graham and their trained worm Rubio.

VorDaj on May 21, 2013 at 10:38 PM

Sheila Jacka$$-Lee thinks they were busy walking around on Mars and couldn’t have done it.

viking01 on May 21, 2013 at 10:39 PM

And, Lois Lerner would appreciate it if we didn’t “embarrass or burden” her, y’all.
They had better humiliate her to oblivion – on national television. And she should be thankful that we live in a civilized age – in olden days, she’d be getting worse treatment than a simple public embarrassment.

Midas on May 21, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Wake me when we get to jail time.

SomeCallMeJohn on May 21, 2013 at 10:39 PM

canopfor on May 21, 2013 at 10:19 PM
In light of what the Marxist messiah has done your words are not an exaggeration.

Well done.

SparkPlug on May 21, 2013 at 10:27 PM

SparkPlug:

Dare I say,that within this Progressive Dragnet,
I think Team Hopey wenr after some 99 Per-Centers!!

Can’t wait for that Meme to be exploited,er,checked
out!!—————–:)

canopfor on May 21, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Myron Falwell on May 21, 2013 at 10:35 PM

They lost the love for Obama. Mainly because their health insurance rates went up.

SparkPlug on May 21, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Tyranny…

Seven Percent Solution on May 21, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Say you sue me because you say my dog bit you. Well, now this is my defense:
1. My dog doesn’t bite.
2. And second, in the alternative, my dog was tied up that night.
3. And third, I don’t believe you really got bit.
4. And fourth, I don’t have a dog.
At this point, they’re at the “I don’t have a dog” stage.

Curtiss on May 21, 2013 at 10:36 PM

Curtiss:-:O

May I add:

5.

He ate the Dog.

canopfor on May 21, 2013 at 10:47 PM

jcoop22 on May 21, 2013 at 10:31 PM


I think this conveys more in the chain of command context.

What this means for you… consider this chain of command since the story broke.

Former Acting IRS Commissioner Steven Miller… retires

Joseph Grant, Commissioner of Tax Exempt and Government Entities… retires.

Lois Lerner, Head of Exempt Organization…says she will invoke her 5th amendment right to not incriminate herself when called before Congress on Wednesday.

Holly Paz, Director of Exempt Organizations, subpoenaed to Washington to be interviewed by members of Congress.

All of this IRS leadership, in Washington D.C.

Then one level down is Cindy Thomas, the highest ranking employee in Cincinnati in this Tax Exempt and Government Entities Department that no one in Congress is talking to… yet.

PolAgnostic on May 21, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Tyranny…

Seven Percent Solution on May 21, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Seven Percent Solution:

Adding to your brilliance,

………is Fundamentally Transformational in just five days!!
———–:)

canopfor on May 21, 2013 at 10:50 PM

The GOP was a floating turd that reached up out of the bowl and flushed itself out of existence so the illegal turds could rush in and clog things up so bad that it smells like Mexico.

SparkPlug on May 21, 2013 at 10:50 PM

May I add:

5.

He ate the Dog.

canopfor on May 21, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Bwaaahh. That’s funny.

SparkPlug on May 21, 2013 at 10:51 PM

I certainly hope they’re proud of their accomplishment.

bflat879 on May 21, 2013 at 10:33 PM

To them, pride and honor have no validity, only results. They “won” the election, they are in charge, the methods to get there are irrelevant.

AZfederalist on May 21, 2013 at 10:52 PM

IRS? Never heard of it.

bitsy on May 21, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Doesn’t a claim of the Fifth actually have to be made out loud in the committee or courtroom by the witness/accused for it to be valid?

I didn’t think it could be sort of ‘emailed-in’.

In any case the people have a right to see her and hear her own voice make that claim.

slickwillie2001 on May 21, 2013 at 10:30 PM

Nah, not if they’re a Democrat. To get out of a subpoena you just indicate you’re planning on taking the fifth. Then the squishes are expected to withdraw the subpoena. Things run much more smoothly when you just accept the left’s agenda.

Fenris on May 21, 2013 at 10:53 PM

AZfederalist on May 21, 2013 at 10:52 PM

should have been:
To them, pride and honor have no validity, only results matter.

AZfederalist on May 21, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Let’s cut to the chase here, does anyone really believe this White House, the Democrats, and Axelrod and company, didn’t do what it took to get Obama re-elected? Let’s start with that, as a premise, and move on from there.

Nothing, and I really mean nothing, would surprise me about the 2012 election. That the unemployed, under-employed, college students in debt, Republicans, Conservatives, Tea Party people, and every other group openly opposed to Obama, wouldn’t show up because Mitt Romney was the nominee, just isn’t ringing true. If it does, something’s wrong.

The bottom line is, there is no way this election was legitimate. The Democrats held the Senate and Obama won an election using the IRS to target the opposition. I certainly hope they’re proud of their accomplishment.

bflat879 on May 21, 2013 at 10:33 PM

I now am starting to believe that the “low information voters” argument is and has been a red herring. And it’s because of this.

The problem now becomes the fact that a clear majority of the GOPe fell for the “low info” farce.

Myron Falwell on May 21, 2013 at 10:55 PM

“Technical Unit”

Still striving to make Orwell irrelevant.

forest on May 21, 2013 at 10:57 PM

slickwillie2001 on May 21, 2013 at 10:30 PM

Nah, not if they’re a Democrat. To get out of a subpoena you just indicate you’re planning on taking the fifth. Then the squishes are expected to withdraw the subpoena. Things run much more smoothly when you just accept the left’s agenda.

Fenris on May 21, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Is this like Holder’s pre-emptive recusal, the time of which he can’t remember?

onlineanalyst on May 21, 2013 at 10:57 PM

canopfor on May 21, 2013 at 10:50 PM

:)

Seven Percent Solution on May 21, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Obama Must Protect Government Unions in IRS Scandal

THIS…!

Seven Percent Solution on May 21, 2013 at 11:02 PM

“Technical Unit”

Still striving to make Orwell irrelevant.

forest on May 21, 2013 at 10:57 PM

“Special Treatment”

Yeah, then there was that…

Seven Percent Solution on May 21, 2013 at 11:04 PM

D’oh!

Pass the popcorn.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on May 21, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Gomer: Surprise, surprise, surprise!

faraway on May 21, 2013 at 10:06 PM

.

Queue Gomer Pyle: “Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!”

SouthernGent on May 21, 2013 at 10:11 PM

.
Uhhh ………… BOO !

(you both beat me to “surprise”)

listens2glenn on May 21, 2013 at 11:21 PM

Even if no other office were involved, Cincinnati is the central office for clearing tax-exempt applications and has been since the late ’90s. Its location in Cincinnati just gave apologists a convenient way to imply it was not involved in carrying out a national policy.

MKH: Why are you the only one out there who seems to have gotten this? I even made a pest of myself in the chat room two days after you told Ed the same thing point blank but I was ignored. What? Are you just smarter than everybody else?

Oh, right, how silly of me. Or course you are. I knew that. Hey, stay smart. Remain vigilant! We need you.

IndieDogg on May 21, 2013 at 11:29 PM

To support, further, MKH’s opening point about Cincinnati, this from NBC News:

The IRS Exempt Organizations Determinations Unit is located on the fourth floor of the Federal Building at 550 Main St. in downtown Cincinnati. It is the location which receives, reviews and processes all applications for tax-exempt status, and from which letters of acceptance or denial originate.

IndieDogg on May 21, 2013 at 11:35 PM

John the Libertarian on May 21, 2013 at 10:23 PM

Me too.

The bottom line is, there is no way this election was legitimate. The Democrats held the Senate and Obama won an election using the IRS to target the opposition. I certainly hope they’re proud of their accomplishment.

bflat879 on May 21, 2013 at 10:33 PM

I now am starting to believe that the “low information voters” argument is and has been a red herring. And it’s because of this.

The problem now becomes the fact that a clear majority of the GOPe fell for the “low info” farce.

Myron Falwell on May 21, 2013 at 10:55 PM

I’m sure the Democrats are thrilled with their accomplishment. Because what is anybody going to do about it? Not a damn thing. Holy Shite the Republicans just passed amnesty in the Senate. Si Se Puede or whatever the f. I still speak English, soon the minority…eh.

ORconservative on May 21, 2013 at 11:47 PM

PolAgnostic on May 21, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Re ‘chain of command’, I don’t think we will get anywhere without testimony from the greedy-union management overlay. It’s the shadow management structure that the democratics have used to corrupt the IRS and probably every other government department.

It starts with Colleen Kelley, President of the NTEU, the greedy union of employees in the Treasury Department.

slickwillie2001 on May 21, 2013 at 11:55 PM

The Washington unit rejected this approach and, in February 2011, was developing individualized letters itself.

Hm, Feb 2011… After the major failure Nov 2010. Lead-up to the 2012 campaign … Think I know the why.

socalcon on May 22, 2013 at 12:00 AM

Fox19 does it again. http://www.fox19.com/story/22380127/reality-check-exclusive-cincinnati-agent-giving-orders-in-irs-scandal
“Cindy Thomas, the highest ranking employee in Cincinnati in this Tax Exempt and Government Entities Department that no one in Congress is talking to… yet.”

jcoop22 on May 21, 2013 at 10:31 PM

Great article. Thanks, jcoop22!

When an application for tax exempt status comes into the IRS, agents have 270 days to work through that application. If the application is not processed within those 270 days it automatically triggers flags in the system. When that happens, individual agents are required to input a status update on that individual case once a month, every month until the case is resolved.

Keep in mind, at least 300 groups were targeted out of Cincinnati alone. Those applications spent anywhere from 18 months to nearly 3 years in the system and some still don’t have their non-profit status. 300 groups multiplied by at least 18 months for each group, means thousands of red flags would have been generated in the system.

So who in the chain of command would have received all these flags? The answer, according to the IRS directory, one woman in Cincinnati, Cindy Thomas, the Program Manager of the Tax Exempt Division. Because all six of our IRS workers have different individual and territory managers, Cindy Thomas is one manager they all have common.

It turns out Cindy Thomas’ name is one we have heard before. The independent journalism group ProPublica says in November of 2012 they had requested information on conservatives groups that had received non-profit status. Along with that information, the IRS released private information on nine conservative groups that had not yet been approved and personal information had not been redacted. The person who signed off on that release, Cindy Thomas.

cptacek on May 22, 2013 at 12:12 AM

Ohio was a must-win state in the 2012 elections which is probably why the targeting of grassroots “get out the vote” Conservative organizations was done on such a large scale.

OxyCon on May 22, 2013 at 12:44 AM

Oh my, what a HUGE SURPRISE.

So your saying it may not have been just a few rogue agents in Cincinnati?

Axion on May 22, 2013 at 1:57 AM

OBAMA

pat on May 22, 2013 at 2:30 AM

Looks like there was a bright side in Obama’s re-election after all.
 
rogerb on May 21, 2013 at 10:14 PM

 
If you consider facing international embarrassment and a total loss of faith in any part of the government to be a bright side. But sunlight is the most effective disinfectant. So you kinda are right.
 
Myron Falwell on May 21, 2013 at 10:21 PM

 
I’ve had to walk a child back into a store over a $0.30 pack of gum to teach her a lesson about stealing. It’s embarrassing and disappointing for the parent as well, but the child, and her siblings, learn from it.
 
I could’ve saved all that embarrassment by pretending I didn’t see it. It was only $0.30, after all. That’s nothing. But the children needed to understand why it was wrong, and they all needed to experience the consequences.
 
The shopkeeper at our store and the other parents visibly saw the integrity and honesty my family was determined to maintain, too.
 
Holding the president accountable to our laws-not-men ideal works almost exactly the same way.

rogerb on May 22, 2013 at 6:51 AM

Maybe Barry will blame Biden and we will get 2 for the impeachment of 1.

albill on May 22, 2013 at 7:30 AM

Come on. Obama didn’t know anything about the IRS targeting until he read in reports from the Media that he was spying on.

Curtiss on May 21, 2013 at 10:21 PM

The real trick is that Obama didn’t know about spying on the press until he read it from the daily spy reports on the press.

Axeman on May 22, 2013 at 8:10 AM

Y’know, if Romney had won we probably wouldn’t be discussing these issues this way. There definitely wouldn’t be the public disgrace and media coverage, and, if (D)s were somehow forced into it by open disregard for the office and the law, the humiliation of impeachment.

Looks like there was a bright side in Obama’s re-election after all.

rogerb on May 21, 2013 at 10:14 PM

It’s very interesting to speculate about what would have happened if Romney had managed to win. Fast and Furious would have been dropped as no longer relevant. The IRS would have been burying their past misdeeds as much as possible by inauguration. Some of the scandal of Benghazi might have come out, but I kind of doubt it. The business of investigating the press would probably have never become known.

And I seriously doubt Obamacare would have been repealed, though it probably would have been cleaned up somewhat, and deadlines extended.

The biggest irony is that the Obama presidency would have gone into the history books as remarkably scandal-free.

There Goes the Neighborhood on May 22, 2013 at 10:35 AM

Anyone who thinks Axe and co., a.k.a. the 0 campaign, knew nothing of this is not being honest with themselves. I mean, dang, it started in 2010! Can anyone honestly believe that they didn’t know? Well, here’s one I saw on another site … “I’m with stupid.” – Joe Biden

mel23059 on May 22, 2013 at 12:10 PM

“Will no one rid me of this turbulent pest?”

billrowe on May 22, 2013 at 1:14 PM