Video: Dem Rep wants borders to become an “irrelevancy”

posted at 10:15 am on December 22, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Look on the bright side. At least we have a Democrat talking about God in American policy. Of course, it’s Rep. Keith Ellison, who here prays for borders to become “irrelevant.” In this clip from The Blaze from a June 2010 speech to the Network of Spiritual Progressives Conference, Ellison posits that military strength doesn’t make for safe borders, but that policies of “equity, generosity, and engagement” provide security:

Speaking as a person of faith, I recognize the “no borders” concept as part of the utopian vision of a resurrected world, one with God in the Millenium to come. Until then, though, calling military strength irrelevant to border security in this world is nothing short of breathtakingly stupid. The US has a long record of “equity, generosity, and engagement” in its foreign policy, all of which would mean squat to anyone wanting to attack us. Because of our strength, we have faced off against monstrous opponents, such as Nazi Germany, imperial Japan, and the Soviet Union, all of whom conducted genocidal policies on peoples and countries who just wanted “engagement” instead of conquerors, and even on their own people (as did China) by the millions. Had we not had that military strength for both ourselves and our allies, this world would be a much more evil and desolate place.

Good intentions matter in foreign policy. So does military strength. Ask the people of eastern Europe which matters more.


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This guy is quickly becoming the king of the freaks in congress.

Hening on December 22, 2010 at 12:20 PM

Hungary, and I can remember very well when there was barbed wire and landmines on the Austrian border, and you knew you would get shot in the border zone just like you knew you would get electrocuted if you stuck your finger into the wall socket. Now that border is an irrelevancy. You can walk across it without even noticing. You can get into a car in Estonia and drive all the way to Portugal without stopping at a border. It all changed without a single shot being fired. This is one of the few miracles I’ve seen in my life.

Physical borders distinguish sovereignty. And yet it never occured to you that the notion of sovereignty is what seperated you from potential gun shots and exploding mines.

…but you can’t argue about one thing: borders becoming irrelevant is definitely a good thing.

factoid on December 22, 2010 at 11:09 AM

Follow the above to its logical end relative to the individual. Then ask yourself, “by what right(s) do others have over my own sovereignty?”

Then prepare to argue for the legitimacy of slavery.

anuts on December 22, 2010 at 12:20 PM

Ok, we can chalk this guy up as to wanting a Global Empire!

Always nice to know where the imperialists stand… it makes them easier to identify.

ajacksonian on December 22, 2010 at 12:21 PM

Must be nice to live in a district where you can let loose with the pseudopacifist stupid whenever and wherever you want and not have it effect you (and most importantly, your paycheck) come election day because you have a “D” next to your name.

As a conservative living in a district “represented” by one of these likeminded loons, it can be downright depressing when they are in the majority. However, when they are in the minority, at least you can sit back and enjoy the comedy gold that they bring out now and then….

djm1992 on December 22, 2010 at 12:37 PM

Oops, that should be “affect” instead of “effect”…..

djm1992 on December 22, 2010 at 12:39 PM

Despicable moron.

rplat on December 22, 2010 at 12:40 PM

Calling Ellison breathtakingly stupid is an insult to those who are breathtakingly stupid.

Ellison is a moron.

sclemens on December 22, 2010 at 12:50 PM

You bet. Like someone else said, let’s start with making the borders of his Congressional district irrelevant. Then can we also make the borders of his own property irrelevant as well? Does he live in a gated community? Can I build a mother-in-law to house for my mother in his back yard? She needs a place to stay. Why stop there? Let him make everything he owns “communal” property. Can I borrow his car for the month of January?

labwriter on December 22, 2010 at 12:52 PM

There is only one way this is gonna end. Maybe not tomorrow, or 2020, or 2030, but sooner or later we are gonna have one helluva world to repair.

Limerick on December 22, 2010 at 12:54 PM

Calling Ellison breathtakingly stupid is an insult to those who are breathtakingly stupid.

Ellison is a moron.

sclemens on December 22, 2010 at 12:50 PM

That’s an insult to morons. – It’s treasonous.

The Zoo Keeper on December 22, 2010 at 12:56 PM

Another TRAITOR to the United States of America.

Perfect place for him…………CONGRESS.

PappyD61 on December 22, 2010 at 12:56 PM

The abject stupidity is amazing. These loons just plain feel safe to come out of the closet about their traitorous feelings. Biding time…..

HomeoftheBrave on December 22, 2010 at 1:00 PM

Didn’t this a$$hole swear to “defend and protect the Constitution of the United States”? Oh, you thought he was serious about dat?

Traitor!

stonemeister on December 22, 2010 at 1:02 PM

Remember when sitting us congressmen didn’t openly long for the satanic global caliphate?

Inanemergencydial on December 22, 2010 at 1:09 PM

Well, on the bright side, he didn’t seem to get much applause when he said, ‘Hopefully the border will become an irrelevancy.’

He can have his speeches. I’ll keep my ammo.

j_galt on December 22, 2010 at 1:11 PM

allahu fat slob. Can someone explain how Minnesotans keep giving us the crap that we expect from California?

Western_Civ on December 22, 2010 at 1:35 PM

But I can’t decide if he’s praying for open borders b/c he wants the coming of the Ummah on a global level or if he’s praying from his “progressive” POV.

DrewVT6 on December 22, 2010 at 1:36 PM

Ellison is a race baitor whose grand scheme in his utopia would be Muslims from anywhwere running the US with non muslims as dhimminis.

patrick neid on December 22, 2010 at 2:02 PM

The guy is an idiot. Simple as that.

coldwarrior on December 22, 2010 at 2:31 PM

And God willing one day Keith Ellison will become an irrelevancy (OOPS – He already is)

LODGE4 on December 22, 2010 at 2:44 PM

This clip should be a non-stop ad running between now and Nov. 2012. But as usual the RNC will do nothing with it.

angryed on December 22, 2010 at 2:50 PM

Given an infinite time frame, borders will eventually become irrelevant. Nation states have not existed forever, and there is no guarantee that they will continue.

ernesto on December 22, 2010 at 2:56 PM

ernesto on December 22, 2010 at 2:56 PM

Most of us pare our logical arguments down to a more manageable focus than “given an infinite time frame…”

But, thanks for playing!

cs89 on December 22, 2010 at 3:00 PM

Codespeak for world chalipate…

anikol on December 22, 2010 at 3:01 PM

cs89 on December 22, 2010 at 3:00 PM

Well wasn’t that the timeframe given by the man who first made the statement, Rep. Ellison? I don’t see him having qualified it any more than that.

ernesto on December 22, 2010 at 3:01 PM

Codespeak for world chalipate…

anikol on December 22, 2010 at 3:01 PM

You cannot fight that which you cannot spell.

ernesto on December 22, 2010 at 3:02 PM

He is speaking in code, i write in code.

anikol on December 22, 2010 at 3:23 PM

Can’t we just annex Mexico? At least we could attempt to clean up it’s primitive culture rather than have them try to change ours by anchor babies and amnesty.

I guess the main problem is they would be able to vote before they have been firmly taught the difference between right and wrong. (and don’t anyone dare sanctimoniously try to scold me for saying that)

There is no excuse for Mexico being a third world country right next to the world’s richest country other than the failure of it’s own people.

scotash on December 22, 2010 at 3:41 PM

Actually, I happen to be one of those people, the people of eastern Europe. I lived half my life in Hungary, and I can remember very well when there was barbed wire and landmines on the Austrian border, and you knew you would get shot in the border zone just like you knew you would get electrocuted if you stuck your finger into the wall socket. Now that border is an irrelevancy. You can walk across it without even noticing. You can get into a car in Estonia and drive all the way to Portugal without stopping at a border. It all changed without a single shot being fired. This is one of the few miracles I’ve seen in my life.

So yeah, you can joke about which god Rep. Ellison is praying to all you want, and you can certainly make legitimate points about the importance of military might, but you can’t argue about one thing: borders becoming irrelevant is definitely a good thing.

factoid on December 22, 2010 at 11:09 AM

Amen. One of the most moving moments in my life was to be with a group of Czech teachers on a bus crossing the border into Austria in Spring, 1990. Many were crying. The guard towers and fence were still there. The idea that man can be caged like an animal, that had been swept away months before in the Velvet Revolution.

AshleyTKing on December 22, 2010 at 4:24 PM

Given an infinite time frame, borders will eventually become irrelevant. Nation states have not existed forever, and there is no guarantee that they will continue.

ernesto on December 22, 2010 at 2:56 PM

Thanks Plato … we’ll all sleep better now.

darwin on December 22, 2010 at 4:41 PM

Where’s his hut?

I’m going right over and set myself in the middle of his living room

after all, I don’t think he should mind

can’t wait to see Jews going to Mecca

Sonosam on December 22, 2010 at 5:09 PM

There is a difference between borders to keep people out and borders to keep people in.

GaltBlvnAtty on December 22, 2010 at 5:44 PM

here is only one way this is gonna end. Maybe not tomorrow, or 2020, or 2030, but sooner or later we are gonna have one helluva world to repair.

Limerick on December 22, 2010 at 12:54 PM

The one-world government/religion is coming. And lunatics like Ellison and other democrats and many republicans will fall in line right behind the antiChrist to help usher it in.
“God”? What “god” is Ellsion talking about – his moon god allah and his pedophile demon possessed prophet Muhammed?

abcurtis on December 22, 2010 at 5:44 PM

Ellison is a race baitor whose grand scheme in his utopia would be Muslims from anywhwere running the US with non muslims as dhimminis.

patrick neid on December 22, 2010 at 2:02 PM

That’s what makes him dangerous. The Lefties think he’s an uber-hippie (it’s Minneapolis, after all).

He’s the perfect stalking horse for sharia and the new caliphate.

The nitwits won’t know what hit them until a split-second before the scimitar creases their necks.

Bruno Strozek on December 22, 2010 at 5:45 PM

Ellison is Muslim. Kind of wonder if the Muslim extremists aren’t striving for the same concept. Of course, no infidels will be allowed to exist in this borderless utopia. Just saying…..

chickasaw42 on December 22, 2010 at 6:01 PM

Right.
All the borders of everything where the peasants and serfs live will be irrelevant. Just try crossing a border into anything where the elite ruling class lives, you will be shot.
They will be free to bulldoze your house while you are sleeping in your bed if they so desire. Your property line to the house or anything else you thought you owned will be irrelevant to them. However, the ruling class will have walls 10 feet high around their mansions protected like fortresses that no one will cross without risk of imprisonment or death.

JellyToast on December 22, 2010 at 6:08 PM

“Imagine there’s no countries…”

Typical liberal utopian tripe. No borders would solve all our problems, don’t you know? Nothing to kill or die for.

I do enjoy when their true colors come shining through, though, because they’re ot supposed to admit to these views in public.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on December 22, 2010 at 6:26 PM

Oh, and since he’s a Muslim, I’d venture to say that it’s because he wants all the world a Caliphate, no borders needed then!

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on December 22, 2010 at 6:27 PM

When the time comes when there is one global government, you will know that you are living in the end-times.

Mirimichi on December 22, 2010 at 6:46 PM

When the time comes when there is one global government, you will know that you are living in the end-times.

Mirimichi on December 22, 2010 at 6:46 PM

Yes. And it makes me want to withdraw my kids from school, only teaching them what they’ll need to know so they don’t fall into apostasy.

I know we can’t bang that gong too loudly on HA, but seriously. Don’t we all know things have changed, and are going to continue to change at an ever-increasing clip?

Grace_is_sufficient on December 22, 2010 at 7:04 PM

What would happen to NAFTA if there weren’t any borders?

When the time comes when there is one global government, you will know that you are living in the end-times.

Mirimichi on December 22, 2010 at 6:46 PM

I don’t know what weapons will be used in the next world war, but the war after that one will be fought with sticks and stones.

BobMbx on December 22, 2010 at 7:14 PM

The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will reign for ever and ever.”

JellyToast on December 22, 2010 at 7:21 PM

Hey Keith, you stupid sap!

Why don’t you tear down that artificial “border” called the “front door” to your frickin’ house?

That way, anyone who needed “shelter” or a “meal” could just come on in and help themselves to your stuff.

C’mon, don’t be a hypocrite like the vast majority of your fellow liberal/socialist travelers.

Your stuff is my stuff, right stupid?

Oh, hey, and make sure the beer is cold. I prefer Blue Moon, with orange, so don’t diss me with that cheapo Bud or PBR crap.

And don’t be locking the doors or nothin’. I don’t want to have to break the goddamn thing down to get at your/my stuff.

bannedbyhuffpo on December 22, 2010 at 7:57 PM

Am I the only one who thinks that his apparent belief that we should all be living in a borderless world under Islam is a betrayal of his oath to support and defend the Constitution? He doesn’t belong in Congress; he belongs in Guantanamo.

morganfrost on December 22, 2010 at 8:44 PM

This man needs to be defeated in his next election. He doesn’t understand how key the border is to security, how damaging it is to our country:
* drug cartels
* kidnapping and rapes
* murders going on by illegals in the border states
* jamming of our hospital waiting rooms; no ability to pay
* jamming of our schools, causing our property taxes to rise
* dumbing down of our electorate; poor & illiterates
* Islamic jihadists coming across the southern border

Mark7788 on December 22, 2010 at 8:54 PM

WTF is wrong with Minnesota?

OK, fine, Kalifornica I could understand. Obviously, Minn-St. Paul is just like Chicago (well, and Springfield).

We’re trying to race Britain to oblivion?

98ZJUSMC on December 22, 2010 at 10:25 PM

Eventually, and you can cut an paste it in memorial here, America will run the spanish out of the Federal District where they have been forever and continue to be hole up, tenuously governing over the remaining 98% of the terrain. Just as we ran them out of the Philippines, Panama, Puerto Rico, and I am sure I left out a couple more, we shall run them out of Mexico. The pretext shall be the demand for equal justice my American mexicans on behalf of those left behind. If it’s handled correctly, an American mexican general will oversee the action.

pc on December 22, 2010 at 10:29 PM

Hooray for Minneapolis, which is giving Chicago a run for its money in the Stoopid Business. Just so I score this right, are you guys breathtakingly corrupt, too, or just mind-bendingly stupid?

Jaibones on December 22, 2010 at 11:12 PM

WTF is wrong with Minnesota?

OK, fine, Kalifornica I could understand. Obviously, Minn-St. Paul is just like Chicago (well, and Springfield).

We’re trying to race Britain to oblivion?

98ZJUSMC on December 22, 2010 at 10:25 PM

Its our diversity… The more diverse we become the more stupid as a people we become.

Dasher on December 22, 2010 at 11:47 PM

No borders is also part of the Islamic Caliphate.

Think about it.
{^_^}

herself on December 23, 2010 at 7:35 AM

Another ‘One World Dictatorship’.

Send him copies of all of Michal Savage’s books.

MSGTAS on December 23, 2010 at 9:57 AM

And God willing one day Keith Ellison will become an irrelevancy (OOPS – He already is)

LODGE4 on December 22, 2010 at 2:44 PM

As a sitting U.S. Rep., he may not be quite there yet–but he borders on it.

Barnestormer on December 23, 2010 at 12:03 PM

I guess that he doesn’t understand that there is both a Mexican border and a Canadian border. The trouble isn’t on the Canadian border that borders his state. The sad thing is that this clown was re-elected.

SC.Charlie on December 23, 2010 at 12:07 PM

Has anyone here read Tom Kratman’s books, Caliphate and State Of Disobedience ?

Caliphate depicts what America is in for unless the general public wakes up to the threat that Islam poses to Western Civilization.

CatchAll on December 23, 2010 at 12:15 PM

Look on the bright side. At least we have a Democrat talking about God in American policy. Of course, it’s Rep. Keith Ellison, who here prays for borders to become “irrelevant.”

Ed – I presume you are being sarcastic here.

The reason I say this is because all of us here at HA know that traitorous Muslim Ellison’s so-called “God” is not God, but rather Allah. Allah is just Satan duping a stone-age “culture” of bloodthirsty barbarian thugs into thinking that Allah is God. Islam is a gutter religion that requires only three conditions for people in lands under its evil thumb – being a Muslim, being a dhimmi subjugated slave or being dead.

CatchAll on December 23, 2010 at 12:23 PM

Good intentions matter in foreign policy. So does military strength. Ask the people of eastern Europe which matters more.
Actually, I happen to be one of those people, the people of eastern Europe. I lived half my life in Hungary, and I can remember very well when there was barbed wire and landmines on the Austrian border, and you knew you would get shot in the border zone just like you knew you would get electrocuted if you stuck your finger into the wall socket. Now that border is an irrelevancy. You can walk across it without even noticing. You can get into a car in Estonia and drive all the way to Portugal without stopping at a border. It all changed without a single shot being fired. This is one of the few miracles I’ve seen in my life.

So yeah, you can joke about which god Rep. Ellison is praying to all you want, and you can certainly make legitimate points about the importance of military might, but you can’t argue about one thing: borders becoming irrelevant is definitely a good thing.

factoid on December 22, 2010 at 11:09 AM

And yet, here you are: safely ensconced in a country whose people (in the main) believe in secure borders and *legal* immigration.

mmmm mmmm mmmm

Solaratov on December 23, 2010 at 12:42 PM

Spiritual Progressives Conference

Lucifers Helpers Meeting……!

FIFY

PappyD61 on December 23, 2010 at 2:39 PM

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