Quotes of the day

posted at 10:48 pm on December 21, 2010 by Allahpundit

“This is about as bad as it could get for Democrats, and as good as it could get for Republicans. The next GOP presidential candidate gets six free electoral votes from South Carolina, Texas, Utah. The Democratic caucus in the House is about to see internal warfare in the rust belt and northeast, as their members are forced into Thunderdome battle for the diminished number of seats. Only in Illinois, I think, will the Democrats be able to create a map that hurts the GOP’s newly elected members and takes back a seat or two…

“It’s almost a fool’s errand to try and predict redistricting now, before incoming legislatures get control of it, but if there was no partisan gerrymandering, we’d see a lot of competitive or Democratic-leaning new districts in red states. Most of the growth in the past decade has happened in suburbs and exurbs that have been growing bluer — Travis and Harris County in Texas, Maricopa County in Arizona, Wake County in North Carolina, and so on. But Republicans can easily carve up red states after the Florida and Texas models, and pack non-whites in uncompetitive districts, shore up a few liberals, and make the rest of the districts too Republican-leaning to get into real danger.”

***
“Overall, this represents a continued shift in the Electoral College from blue-leaning states to red-leaning states. If the 2008 election had been held under these census numbers, President Obama’s 365-173 victory over John McCain would have become a 359-179 win. For 2004, the numbers are starker still: Bush’s 286-251 victory would become a 292-246 win, meaning that even if Kerry had won Ohio, he still would have lost (in 2004, flipping Ohio would have been sufficient to give Kerry the win).

“And finally, in 2000, rather than a 271-266 win (with one faithless Gore/Lieberman elector from DC abstaining), the changes of the past two decades would have resulted in a President Bush win of 285-252. While Florida would still would have been the difference-maker, Gore would not have to tell himself that, had he won New Hampshire, Tennessee or Arkansas, the whole Florida debacle would have been irrelevant.”

***
“Assume, for the sake of argument, that the 2012 Republican nominee wins a quartet of traditionally GOP-leaning states that Obama won in 2008: Virginia (13 electoral votes), Indiana (11 electoral votes), North Carolina (15 electoral votes) and Florida (now 29 electoral votes). Add in the one electoral vote in Nebraska that Obama won by 1.1 percent. Add in the six net votes from the 2008 McCain states, and that puts the Republican at 248 electoral votes, needing another 22.

“Those 22 votes could be won in a variety of ways, but the most likely scenario would appear to be Ohio (18 electoral votes) and any other state (Iowa, New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania).”

***
“The Red States from 2004 with, plus the 6 new electoral votes after reapportionment leaves the Republicans with 253 electoral votes…

“Assuming they keep the red states, plus Virginia, the Republicans need to win only one of the following swing states:

“Colorado (Cook Partisan index 0), or
Nevada (D+1), or
Iowa (D+1), or
New Hampshire (D+2), or
New Mexico (D+2)”

***
“These numbers are an opportunity for Republicans, but also a challenge, since the main areas undergoing population growth are (with a few exceptions like Utah) growing mainly through a growing Latino population. Which explains why Democrats are so eager to try to divide off Latino voters to vote as a homogenous race-conscious bloc the way African-Americans do; it’s their only path to offset their shrinking deep-blue-state power base. There’s no future in being the party of the Northeast and the West Coast, and Democrats know this; liberal pundits and left-wing bloggers are quite open about the extent to which they bank on racial demographics as their salvation, and those demographics only benefit them if they can maintain very high rates of racial division in the voting patterns of Latino and African-American voters, far higher than you would find among white voters. Republicans don’t have to win the Latino vote outright to fend off that challenge, they only need individual Latinos to remain open enough to both sides that Republicans can persuade a decent percentage to vote GOP, as the Democrats still do among white voters. Frankly, it’s not a coincidence that the two states with the most population growth have had, for the past decade and a half, GOP governors starting with George W. and Jeb Bush who worked hard to cater to Latino voters and declined to join in the harshest anti-immigration (even anti-illegal-immigration) rhetoric or policies.

“Let’s look deeper at the map through the eyes of a Democrat, and you can see why the campaign of relentless racial division touted on a daily basis by left-leaning commentators and pursued by President Obama in some of his ugliest moments of the 2010 stretch run – calling Republicans the ‘enemies’ of Latinos who had to be ‘punished,’ asserting that Republicans were ‘counting on …black folks staying home’ – will only be exacerbated as Obama’s natural strategy for 2012, given how his performance in office has lost him much of the support among white voters (and some among Latino voters) that he enjoyed in 2008.”


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At last, a bit of good news…

ladyingray on December 21, 2010 at 10:50 PM

Most of the growth in the past decade has happened in suburbs and exurbs that have been growing bluer — Travis and Harris County in Texas

Nonsense – Texas is redder than ever, that’s before any redistricting.

The simple fact is, the left let its mask slip, what was under it was very very ugly indeed – and Americans are instinctively recoiling from it.

Rebar on December 21, 2010 at 10:53 PM

The next GOP presidential candidate gets six free electoral votes from South Carolina, Texas, Utah.

That’s like winning NH or NM (both of which flipped at least once 2000, 2004, 2008) without even trying.

angryed on December 21, 2010 at 10:53 PM

Good nighes and good newt. Bless your memory, Ted Baxter.

Mason on December 21, 2010 at 10:54 PM

Frankly, it’s not a coincidence that the two states with the most population growth have had, for the past decade and a half, GOP governors starting with George W. and Jeb Bush who worked hard to cater to Latino voters

That, or favorable tax policies.

John the Libertarian on December 21, 2010 at 10:55 PM

-win the 2008 states
-win the “usual red” Obama states (Indiana, NC, Virginia)
-win Florida
-win Ohio
-win one other state

That’s it folks.

A PALIN – RUBIO ticket would do just this. She’d lose epically in NY and CA but she could get Wisconsin as that “other state

COUNT IT!!!

picklesgap on December 21, 2010 at 10:56 PM

Nonsense – Texas is redder than ever, that’s before any redistricting.

Yeah… I keep hearing Dems say that Texas is going blue some day…

That won’t happen any time before 2030… and probably 2040…

ninjapirate on December 21, 2010 at 10:56 PM

Overall, this represents a continued shift in the Electoral College from blue-leaning states to red-leaning states.

Yes, but the long term demographics and social trends are still against us.

/Eeyore

toliver on December 21, 2010 at 10:59 PM

Nonsense – Texas is redder than ever, that’s before any redistricting.

The simple fact is, the left let its mask slip, what was under it was very very ugly indeed – and Americans are instinctively recoiling from it.

Rebar on December 21, 2010 at 10:53 PM

One dour faced Democrat “analyst” was soothing Tingles Matthews on MSNBC that “hey, Texas is competitive!” I’d be hard pressed to remember if Obama has even been here since being elected. And they weren’t too happy the Republican convention is in Tampa, so they harked on what scorching hot humid weather the Republicans would expose people like Tingles to by holding it in FLorida during summer. No, seriously, they did this.

Marcus on December 21, 2010 at 11:00 PM

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*SERENDIPITY-Hallelujah*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on December 21, 2010 at 11:01 PM

“Let’s look deeper at the map through the eyes of a Democrat, and you can see why the campaign of relentless racial division touted on a daily basis by left-leaning commentators and pursued by President Obama in some of his ugliest moments of the 2010 stretch run – calling Republicans the ‘enemies’ of Latinos who had to be ‘punished,’ asserting that Republicans were ‘counting on …black folks staying home’ – will only be exacerbated as Obama’s natural strategy for 2012, given how his performance in office has lost him much of the support among white voters (and some among Latino voters) that he enjoyed in 2008.”

This is why the “shut up about social issues” won’t work. The majority of Latinos agree with Republicans on social issues. You’re not going to attract Latinos by leaving out social issues. G.W. was a social con and he got plenty of Latino voters.

terryannonline on December 21, 2010 at 11:02 PM

Who control Liberal Town?

Bishop on December 21, 2010 at 11:02 PM

Most of the growth in the past decade has happened in suburbs and exurbs that have been growing bluer — Travis and Harris County in Texas, Maricopa County in Arizona, Wake County in North Carolina

Maricopa County? You mean the Maricopa that went 54% for Jan Brewer in 2010? That’s a blue county?

angryed on December 21, 2010 at 11:03 PM

The next GOP presidential candidate gets six free electoral votes from South Carolina, Texas, Utah.
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AC DC Thunderstruck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f1cwycSWq0

canopfor on December 21, 2010 at 11:04 PM

The Future Looks Bright

Kini on December 21, 2010 at 11:04 PM

Who control Liberal Town?

Bishop on December 21, 2010 at 11:02 PM

Bishop:Thats Liberal Toony Town,Progressive Mis-Fits!!:)

canopfor on December 21, 2010 at 11:05 PM

The Future Looks Bright

Kini on December 21, 2010 at 11:04 PM

Kini:Good tune,hehe:)

canopfor on December 21, 2010 at 11:07 PM

This is another reason the Dem’s better get the economy moving.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jiI1Avi3AE77iqEW3pRvw8DVNAog?docId=576e8360e3244a3781f57cfb9832f525

Cindy Munford on December 21, 2010 at 11:08 PM

This is why the “shut up about social issues” won’t work. The majority of Latinos agree with Republicans on social issues. You’re not going to attract Latinos by leaving out social issues. G.W. was a social con and he got plenty of Latino voters.

terryannonline on December 21, 2010 at 11:02 PM

What Republicans need to do is what Democrats do.

When in the bible belt talk about social issues.
When in California, STFU about social issues and talk about solar power.
When on national TV talk in platitudes about wanting to work together to solve issues.

Yet Republicans have this self-defeating gene that makes them talk about all sorts of shit to people that are turned off it.

angryed on December 21, 2010 at 11:08 PM

“Que?”

(California again….)

Seven Percent Solution on December 21, 2010 at 11:18 PM

Cindy Munford on December 21, 2010 at 11:08 PM

In case anyone’s afraid of the link, it is about teen pregnancy being at it’s lowest point since the 40′s and they think the bad economy has something to do with. All I can say is someone better learn how to bottle it. But it is bad news for future little Democrats.

Cindy Munford on December 21, 2010 at 11:19 PM

Nonsense – Texas is redder than ever, that’s before any redistricting.

The simple fact is, the left let its mask slip, what was under it was very very ugly indeed – and Americans are instinctively recoiling from it.Rebar on December 21, 2010 at 10:53 PM

Exactly, as long as the mask continues to fall off the progressive’s face, the more Americans flee in horror.

We recoil and redial.

God Bless you all, and Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays HA et al.

seesalrun on December 21, 2010 at 11:23 PM

Huh? How does the economy affect teen pregnancy?

Johnie I like totally really really want to have sex with you. But I read on facebook today that like the economy is bad and stuff so I think I’ll wait until GDP is at least 3% before I give it up. K?

angryed on December 21, 2010 at 11:23 PM

Overall, this represents a continued shift in the Electoral College from blue-leaning states to red-leaning states. If the 2008 election had been held under these census numbers, President Obama’s 365-173 victory over John McCain would have become a 359-179 win. For 2004, the numbers are starker still: Bush’s 286-251 victory would become a 292-246 win, meaning that even if Kerry had won Ohio, he still would have lost (in 2004, flipping Ohio would have been sufficient to give Kerry the win).

And finally, in 2000, rather than a 271-266 win (with one faithless Gore/Lieberman elector from DC abstaining), the changes of the past two decades would have resulted in a President Bush win of 285-252. While Florida would still would have been the difference-maker, Gore would not have to tell himself that, had he won New Hampshire, Tennessee or Arkansas, the whole Florida debacle would have been irrelevant

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/12/21/reapportionment_and_the_electoral_college_108313.html

So it would have been a net 12 vote swing last time around?

Jimbo3 on December 21, 2010 at 11:25 PM

Interesting article (Should Latinos Align with the GOP?) about what conservatives can do to appeal to Latino voters.

Conservatives now need to communicate their message — for which Latinos are surprisingly ready, according to a poll commissioned by The Heritage Foundation.

The fundamental choice, not surprisingly, reflects the national debate over the size and role of government. It boils down to two philosophies. Latinos can accept Big Government as savior, a last-resort guarantor of fairness and trusted supplier of help. Or, they can embrace the idea that civil society, with its multiplicity of personal contracts and arrangements, is a more reliable provider of freedom, material success and, generally, the good life — one that includes them.

Much will depend on how conservatives communicate their message. The liberal message is that America can be an unfair, even racist, society, where Latinos need government help to fully succeed. Conservatives must not get tripped up discussing illegal immigration and cultural issues in ways that feed this liberal narrative.

Conservatives, rightly sensitive to threats to the common national culture (which is what gives a country meaning and cohesion) must articulate a message of inclusion that points out the route for Latino integration and success. To do otherwise threatens to create an internal enemy of that culture — permanently alienated from the United States.

It aligns with the aspirations that attracted Latino immigrants to this country in the first place. They can strive to join the middle class and become the latest in a long list of immigrants from the world over who have realized the American Dream.

Embracing such policies would almost be a self-fulfilling prophesy of success. Those who rise earlier, work harder and constantly seek opportunities to improve will want to see their hard work rewarded with material possessions that are beyond government’s confiscatory power.

Those who cherish American traditions because they intuit that they are intricately linked to America’s success are likely to prefer policies that conserve the culture. Those who understand that the family is the fulcrum of the good life and a bulwark against decadence will, like so many immigrants before them, strive to keep their own household intact — choosing pro-family policies.

anXdem on December 21, 2010 at 11:26 PM

So it would have been a net 12 vote swing last time around?

Jimbo3 on December 21, 2010 at 11:25 PM

Jimbo, come on I thought you were smarter than that?

2000 was 2 censuses (censi?) ago. Yes it would have been 12 had it gone from 1990 census (which was used for the 2000 election) to the 2010 census.

angryed on December 21, 2010 at 11:26 PM

If the 2008 election had been held under these census numbers, President Obama’s 365-173 victory over John McCain would have become a 359-179 win

Jimbo, come on I thought you were smarter than that?

2000 was 2 censuses (censi?) ago. Yes it would have been 12 had it gone from 1990 census (which was used for the 2000 election) to the 2010 census.

angryed on December 21, 2010 at 11:26 PM

6 times 2 is 12

Jimbo3 on December 21, 2010 at 11:29 PM

This is another reason the Dem’s better get the economy moving.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jiI1Avi3AE77iqEW3pRvw8DVNAog?docId=576e8360e3244a3781f57cfb9832f525

Cindy Munford on December 21, 2010 at 11:08 PM

Cindy Munford:Thanks for the link,the economy is booming,
hence,booming Teen pregnacies!

Perplexing me thinks!:)

canopfor on December 21, 2010 at 11:29 PM

I don’t trust the establishment GOP to win anything. Sarah is going to have to do it on her own and with us…

CCRWM on December 21, 2010 at 11:29 PM

liberal pundits and left-wing bloggers are quite open about the extent to which they bank on racial demographics as their salvation, and those demographics only benefit them if they can maintain very high rates of racial division in the voting patterns of Latino and African-American voters, far higher than you would find among white voters.

Liberals are absolutely fricking disgraceful.

Democrats: Welcoming Latinos to the Plantation.

BuckeyeSam on December 21, 2010 at 11:30 PM

6 times 2 is 12

Jimbo3 on December 21, 2010 at 11:29 PM

No wonder you libs give us $1T deficits, you can’t do simple math.

365-173 win to 359-179 win… McCain gains 6, Obama loses 6. That is 6. Not 12.

If I give you $1. You have $1 more I have $1 less. There is only $1 changing hands, not $2.

angryed on December 21, 2010 at 11:33 PM

Jimbo3 on December 21, 2010 at 11:29 PM

Jimbo, Michigan called–they need you back and you’re lowering the state IQ in Texas!

Jenfidel on December 21, 2010 at 11:44 PM

No wonder you libs give us $1T deficits, you can’t do simple math.

365-173 win to 359-179 win… McCain gains 6, Obama loses 6. That is 6. Not 12.

If I give you $1. You have $1 more I have $1 less. There is only $1 changing hands, not $2.

angryed on December 21, 2010 at 11:33 PM

That’s net 12. If I lose $1 and you gain $1, that’s net $2.

Jimbo3 on December 21, 2010 at 11:50 PM

Wake County, NC is where Raleigh is. Cary, NC…a suburb of Raleigh (aka Containment Area for Relocated Yankees) is everything that is wrong when Yankess concnetrate together.

SouthernGent on December 21, 2010 at 11:51 PM

That’s net 12. If I lose $1 and you gain $1, that’s net $2.

Jimbo3 on December 21, 2010 at 11:50 PM

LOL. Well now I know how Obamacare will save money. You multiply everything by 2 and presto you save twice as much. Maybe I should file my taxes the same way. Double all my deductions…I will call it the Jimbo Accounting Method.

angryed on December 21, 2010 at 11:52 PM

Nate Silver hardest hit.

Emperor Norton on December 21, 2010 at 11:52 PM

Wake County, NC is where Raleigh is. Cary, NC…a suburb of Raleigh (aka Containment Area for Relocated Yankees) is everything that is wrong when Yankess concnetrate together.

SouthernGent on December 21, 2010 at 11:51 PM

See also West Palm Beach and Tampa/St Pete

angryed on December 21, 2010 at 11:53 PM

What the articles don’t mention is that California just passed a referendum to take Congressional district redrawing out of the hands of the (overwhelmingly Democratic) legislature, giving the task instead to the (at least technically nonpartisan) California Citizens Redistricting Commission. I’m frankly surprised that this de facto gift from California (and Common Cause, of all organizations) to Republicans in Congress is being ignored, but I guess it doesn’t fit with The Narrative on either side.

calbear on December 21, 2010 at 11:54 PM

canopfor on December 21, 2010 at 11:07 PM

Thanks, Happy Holidays

Kini on December 22, 2010 at 12:07 AM

We covered this awhile back

http://www.palinpromotions.com/blog/2010/08/08/palin-roadmap-to-victory-2012/

milemarker2020 on December 22, 2010 at 12:11 AM

canopfor on December 21, 2010 at 11:07 PM
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Thanks, Happy Holidays

Kini on December 22, 2010 at 12:07 AM

Kini:And a very Merry Christmas to you Kini,its been a long
day,Aloha,sweet dreams—-:)

canopfor on December 22, 2010 at 12:16 AM

I hope the tea party will continue to attract patriotic Americans of Hispanic and every other descent. Anyone who shares it’s political goals are welcome.

Nonetheless, illegal immigration immoral and has still got to be stopped, not rewarded.

Pumicium on December 22, 2010 at 12:55 AM

Democrats are so eager to try to divide off Latino voters to vote as a homogenous race-conscious bloc the way African-Americans do; it’s their only path to offset their shrinking deep-blue-state power base.

Wake up Latinos and blacks; you’re just cannon voting fodder. The left loves to keep you as numbers in their political plantation. They don’t care one iota about you.

Schadenfreude on December 22, 2010 at 1:02 AM

I just hope the new congressional districts look like a sliced pizza, centered on the cities.

Slowburn on December 22, 2010 at 1:02 AM

That’s net 12. If I lose $1 and you gain $1, that’s net $2.

Jimbo3 on December 21, 2010 at 11:50 PM

They are talking transfer, while you are talking difference.

The difference between the two sets of numbers is 12.

OldEnglish on December 22, 2010 at 1:07 AM

Gerrymandering can blunt the impact of Democratic population growth. That’s why the Republicans’ domination of state legislatures is a big deal: Even if a state’s Hispanic population is booming, redistricting makes it easy to squeeze them into the smallest number of districts. Gerrymandering can backfire if a party gets overzealous, but the shakeout will likely favor the GOP. That said, political winds don’t really matter when the ground is shifting underneath.

The leftie spin – minorities will always be stupid and taken for granted.

Schadenfreude on December 22, 2010 at 1:13 AM

We covered this awhile back

http://www.palinpromotions.com/blog/2010/08/08/palin-roadmap-to-victory-2012/

milemarker2020 on December 22, 2010 at 12:11 AM

Agree. Popular votes won’t matter much in 2012.

State-by-state win is most important.

Sarah Palin could be the FIRST WOMAN PRESIDENT of the Republic.

She deserves it.

TheAlamos on December 22, 2010 at 1:19 AM

I mean, in 2012, the Republicans will win most by BEING POLARIZING, illustrating Conservatism’s stark contrast from the ugly social and economic results of liberalism.

TheAlamos on December 22, 2010 at 1:21 AM

Maricopa County? You mean the Maricopa that went 54% for Jan Brewer in 2010? That’s a blue county?

angryed on December 21, 2010 at 11:03 PM

I don’t think some people realize just how big Maricopa is. For those that don’t it’s bigger than several eastern states, and a few combinations of those states!

No wonder you libs give us $1T deficits, you can’t do simple math.

365-173 win to 359-179 win… McCain gains 6, Obama loses 6. That is 6. Not 12.

If I give you $1. You have $1 more I have $1 less. There is only $1 changing hands, not $2.

angryed on December 21, 2010 at 11:33 PM

Get your calculator out angryed! You’re embarrassing yourself. 365-173= 192, 359-179= 180. I don’t know how math works where you went to school but 192-180= 12.

rmel80 on December 22, 2010 at 1:28 AM

I think Hispanics can be won over, many consider themselves American first unlike some groups. Yes as AP pointed out, the Democrats are promoting a racist agenda, and we need to call them for exactly what they are. I pray and believe Hispanics will see through it as well.

scotash on December 22, 2010 at 1:36 AM

hopefully, the Rs are doing substantive analysis of Hispanic voters. really, they should be quite receptive to conservative, as opposed to leftist, world view. Mexico was a socialist paradise for years with the PRI in charge until 2000

we need a spanish Rush Limbaugh…we need to offer Hispanics liberty, no corruption, and a pro growth, small business agenda

but with Steele as chair I don’t see it happening.

r keller on December 22, 2010 at 1:37 AM

and we need a solid translation for “the media lies daily”
“the Hispanic elites will sell you out in a nanosecond”

r keller on December 22, 2010 at 1:39 AM

I could be wrong on this, but why the red states are gaining population and the blue states are losing population could be abortion.

Mirimichi on December 22, 2010 at 1:42 AM

Cuda!

long_cat on December 22, 2010 at 1:52 AM

Mirimichi on December 22, 2010 at 1:42 AM

But you know what that means? All those crazy blue state people are coming to red states to screw them up.

Cindy Munford on December 22, 2010 at 2:27 AM

rmel80 on December 22, 2010 at 1:28 AM

The county may be big in size, but 90% of the population is Phoenix and suburbs/exurbs. Much like Clark County which is bigger than a state or two but once you get outside Las Vegas you don’t see a human being for about 75 miles.

As for the 12 EVs that you and Jimbo see changing hands….

I give you $1. Your wealthi incrases by $1. My wealth decreases by $1. $2 hasn’t been exchanged. In your and Jimbo’s world $2 has been exchanged. No wonder liberals think Obamacare will save money. You cannot do basic arithmetic.

angryed on December 22, 2010 at 3:46 AM

The dem party is dying. Good…

OmahaConservative on December 22, 2010 at 4:21 AM

So wait, Obama was only “post-partisan” when it benefit him?

I’m shocked, I tells ya. Shocked.

Grace_is_sufficient on December 22, 2010 at 5:06 AM

I meant “post-racial”. DANG! Must drink coffee before posting on Hot Air…

/blushing

Grace_is_sufficient on December 22, 2010 at 5:09 AM

anXdem on December 21, 2010 at 11:26 PM

Excellent points, to which Republicans should add “school choice”–vouchers which will enable residents of poor neighborhoods to attend private schools in more affluent areas. Once Latinos get motivated by education, they work VERY hard at advancing themselves.

Our messenger to the Latino community should be Senator Marco Rubio.

Steve Z on December 22, 2010 at 6:23 AM

angryed on December 21, 2010 at 11:03 PM

yep, it has been growing bluer, believe it or not…

cmsinaz on December 22, 2010 at 6:26 AM

yep, it has been growing bluer, believe it or not…

cmsinaz on December 22, 2010 at 6:26 AM

cmsinaz:Good Morning———————-:)

canopfor on December 22, 2010 at 6:29 AM

O/T
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Early morning heads up,
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H.R.847 – James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act of 2010

http://users.naco.org/legislation/policies/Documents/NACo%20Letter%20HR%20847%20-%20Senate.pdf

canopfor on December 22, 2010 at 6:31 AM

The next GOP presidential candidate gets six free electoral votes from South Carolina, Texas, Utah

Probably more than that, because deep-blue New York and Illinois each lose 2 EVs, and Massachusetts, New Jersey, and Michigan each lose one EV. Arizona, which is reliably red in Presidential elections, gained a seat.

Florida also gained 2 EVs, which makes it even MORE crucial to both sides, and now has the same weight in the Electoral College as New York.

Steve Z on December 22, 2010 at 6:34 AM

cmsinaz:Good Morning———————-:)

canopfor on December 22, 2010 at 6:29 AM

Good Morning Big C :)

cmsinaz on December 22, 2010 at 6:34 AM

canopfor on December 22, 2010 at 6:31 AM

*shaking the head*

cmsinaz on December 22, 2010 at 6:36 AM

I just hope the new congressional districts look like a sliced pizza, centered on the cities.

Slowburn on December 22, 2010 at 1:02 AM

Exactly the wrong strategy–the knee-jerk liberals in the big cities would be dispersed between many districts, maximizing the number of Democrats elected. It’s better for Republicans to have a few heavily-Dem districts in the big cities, then lump suburbs with rural areas to get a maximum number of slightly Republican-leaning districts. The Democrats will probably look for the pizza-cutter, or create “squashed cat” districts with each paw and the tail extending into precincts where tenured public-school teachers haven’t taught voters the alphabet past the letter D.

Steve Z on December 22, 2010 at 6:42 AM

canopfor on December 22, 2010 at 6:31 AM
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*shaking the head*

cmsinaz on December 22, 2010 at 6:36 AM

cmsinaz:Oh,it does get worse,where is the GOP PR Team,
Liberals are having a field day with this First
Responders Health Bill!:)
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The people of Ground Zero were told this by Christine Todd Whitman, who led the EPA. Later we would find out that the EPA press releases were being manipulated and “fixed” by the NSC. This is taken from 9/11 Research:
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The airwaves are filled with blame for Republicans for not passing the James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Bill, yet that is the short-sided view of a very long and unnecessarily drawn out issue. Blame is across the board for the last 9 years of delays(Video)

http://dprogram.net/2010/12/12/911-first-responder-health-care-bill-vetoed/
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5 Versions of the Bill

Bill Text Versions
111th Congress (2009-2010)
H.R.847

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http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.847:

canopfor on December 22, 2010 at 7:44 AM

canopfor on December 22, 2010 at 7:44 AM

wonderful :(

cmsinaz on December 22, 2010 at 8:12 AM

Most of the growth in the past decade has happened in suburbs and exurbs that have been growing bluer — Travis and Harris County in Texas, Maricopa County in Arizona, Wake County in North Carolina, and so on.

So, when population shifts from blue Northeastern States and Rust Belts states, the areas they’re going to become more blue? Does that mean the areas they left become more red? I don’t think so. I think people leave blue areas in the Northeast and Rust Belt as much for the politics as for the warmer climate. They’re tired of high taxes urinated away on liberal social programs and being unable to do anything about it because they’re outvoted 2-to-1 every election.

olesparkie on December 22, 2010 at 8:14 AM

they are voting with their feet and leaving.

olesparkie on December 22, 2010 at 8:15 AM

olesparkie on December 22, 2010 at 8:14 AM

they are bringing their liberal views along with them…

cmsinaz on December 22, 2010 at 8:18 AM

“Let’s look deeper at the map through the eyes of a Democrat, and you can see why the campaign of relentless racial division touted on a daily basis by left-leaning commentators and pursued by President Obama in some of his ugliest moments of the 2010 stretch run – calling Republicans the ‘enemies’ of Latinos who had to be ‘punished,’ asserting that Republicans were ‘counting on …black folks staying home’ – will only be exacerbated as Obama’s natural strategy for 2012, given how his performance in office has lost him much of the support among white voters (and some among Latino voters) that he enjoyed in 2008.”

The party of race-victims and racism: The Democraps.

Jaibones on December 22, 2010 at 8:26 AM

The results of “growing bluer” were already reflected in the 2010 election results. +65 Republican seats. Good luck with that in 2012.

pedestrian on December 22, 2010 at 8:40 AM

The Democratic caucus in the House is about to see internal warfare in the rust belt and northeast, as their members are forced into Thunderdome battle for the diminished number of seats.

Two jackasses enter.

Only one leaves.

Good Lt on December 22, 2010 at 8:44 AM

Increasing #’s in GOP states does that mean:

MORE GOP Voters or

more CONSERVATIVE voters or

more Progressive Big Government loving voters moving into those states or….

…..does it mean more HISPANICS (the new Entitlement voters) moving into those states?

And so what…more GOP doesn’t mean more Conservative.

PappyD61 on December 22, 2010 at 9:08 AM

Only one leaves.

Good Lt on December 22, 2010 at 8:44 AM

One too many.

OldEnglish on December 22, 2010 at 9:09 AM

Get your calculator out angryed! You’re embarrassing yourself. 365-173= 192, 359-179= 180. I don’t know how math works where you went to school but 192-180= 12.

rmel80 on December 22, 2010 at 1:28 AM

Correct. Another example: on a given vote,the Senate deadlocks at 50-50. The VP casts the deciding vote: result, a one vote margin of victory (51-50)–(an example of an open set.) Contrast that with a one vote flip–resulting in a two vote margin (51-49)–an example of a closed set. Total electoral votes represent a closed set, wherein a one-vote switch increases the margin, or difference, between the two subsets by two.

Barnestormer on December 22, 2010 at 9:09 AM

The distillation of all this is obvious and predictable:

Expect the annoying drone of “abolish the electoral college” to become a 110 dB roar by 2012.

bilups on December 22, 2010 at 9:19 AM

I don’t swallow the rosy picture that the msm wants to paint for the republican party. The swing in population, in my opinion, is affected by something not analyzed in any of these pieces. The states losing populations have been destroyed by democrat/fascist policies. The people leaving those states are moving to successful states and will bring their horrible voting preferences with them. Liberal democrat retirees moving to the sunbelt because they can’t afford to live in their homestates anymore, blue collar union type workers moving to states where there are still jobs and illegal aliens recruited by the activist, community organizing arm of the demofascist party wil possibly turn some of these states purple or even blue.

peacenprosperity on December 22, 2010 at 9:37 AM

Wake County, NC is where Raleigh is. Cary, NC…a suburb of Raleigh (aka Containment Area for Relocated Yankees) is everything that is wrong when Yankess concnetrate together.

SouthernGent on December 21, 2010 at 11:51 P

We have an ongoing reeducation program for Yankees to adapt to life in the SOUTH. Bless their little hearts,Y’all. The escapees from Cali fall into two categories,hopeless/hapless and deliriously grateful to have escaped. The Latin vote will respond to common values and a chance for their kids to share/participate in the American dream.Family success is important,gangers from any group remain a big problem for all of us to solve together. I do not need to feel sorry for or need to understand some depraved SOB because he is deprived, I want him deported pronto.
TEXAS is a State of Mind as well as a Country.
Merry Christmas!

Col.John Wm. Reed on December 22, 2010 at 9:42 AM

Interesting article (Should Latinos Align with the GOP?) about what conservatives can do to appeal to Latino voters.

anXdem on December 21, 2010 at 11:26 PM

I’ve long said that if conservatives ever get a Spanish-speaking Rush Limbaugh-type radio show, the gig’s up for Democrats. Imagine if someone could explain — with wit and humor and in easily understood language — the importance of ethical governance, of freedom, of capitalism.

Spend any length of time in a Latin American country, and you soon discover the importance of the bribe. Pretty much nothing gets done without greasing palms at multiple steps along the way. The poor of Latin America have almost no power because they can’t pay off the necessary people. And who wants to start a business knowing that the next election/coup may require from you a whole ‘nuther round of bribes for you to stay open?

Dems have successfully courted Latinos in the US through class warfare and racism, and why wouldn’t they fall for it, given their experiences in their home countries? The day we can convince Latinos that the US’s secret is a government that treats all men equally and interfers as little as possible in their lives, that the Democrat plan of large government creates the same problems as the corrupt places they left (after all, there’s no need for bribery if you have a small government that leaves you alone), the Dems become a permanent minority.

CJ on December 22, 2010 at 9:48 AM

Perhaps we should spend more time and money explaining to the Latino population just why they do NOT want to become the Dem Party’s ‘new’ blacks. I suspect simply pointing out what a mess the Dems have made for many segments of the black population with their misguided ‘kindness’ should be enough to scare Latinos(or any other sensible group)to death.

jeanie on December 22, 2010 at 10:03 AM

Y’a know–most if not all of the troubles we’re having started the day Barack Obama walked into the WH. Just sayin’

jeanie on December 22, 2010 at 10:05 AM

New Hampshire is not a D state any longer. It flipped red in a big way.

dogsoldier on December 22, 2010 at 10:56 AM

Those leaving the deep-blue debt States are a mixed lot… if it is people from technology firms they will follow the more liberal line of things, which is why CA and MA firms that shift production elsewhere tend to have the same corporate culture and support traditionally liberal organizations.

From the Rust Belt it is people wanting to work at a real job without a Union boss or working in a Union that sucks money out to feed its bureaucracy and nepotism-based system. These people tend to join firms in the States they are going to and want less government, no unions, and the ability to raise a family on their own.

The exception are the Snow Bird retirees, of course, who bring their liberal culture with them, but can’t stand the weather and just want to ‘keep a bit more of their retirement’ earnings… while fostering bigger government in their destination State. This is where Obamacare is going to hit first and hardest, and expect a migration of seniors from blue to middling or red status in the next two years as this is re-fought once again in Congress. With Medicaid out to bankrupt marginal States and put into the borderline on solvent ones, seniors will feel this first and most and they will not like it. That is already happening in FL and to a degree in NC, two of the destination Snow Bird States… AZ used to be an attractive State in that regard and one wonders how the Seniors there now feel about events.

Throw in the other demographic trends for the aging populations that can’t migrate from the deep-blue insolvent States, those on the take, and those just unable to find work elsewhere and the next decade for those States is not going to be pleasant. Plus the liberal love of non-replacement level families and the contraction in the deep-blue States is set to continue for some time to come until the bottom falls out from them. Then things get interesting.

ajacksonian on December 22, 2010 at 11:54 AM

New Hampshire is not a D state any longer. It flipped red in a big way.

dogsoldier on December 22, 2010 at 10:56 AM

Yes, thank God. The only Dem with any power left is the Gov and I did not vote for him. He’s basically a pragmatist though so can probably be worked with. Maine went red on many fronts too, including their governor. However, their most notorious reps are still the two wishy washy gals.

jeanie on December 22, 2010 at 12:12 PM

This is why the “shut up about social issues” won’t work. The majority of Latinos agree with Republicans on social issues. You’re not going to attract Latinos by leaving out social issues. G.W. was a social con and he got plenty of Latino voters.

terryannonline on December 21, 2010 at 11:02 PM

They might agree with us on social stuff, but the vast majority of them don’t care that much about it or figure the Democrats are just pandering to social liberals and won’t really do anything they like.

Speedwagon82 on December 22, 2010 at 12:20 PM