Endgame: Cloture vote on START treaty passes, 67-28
posted at 5:10 pm on December 21, 2010 by Allahpundit
This wasn’t the final vote on ratification, merely the vote to end debate, but if they’ve already got two-thirds in the bank for cloture, it’s a mortal lock that the treaty will pass.
The tax cuts deal, then DADT repeal, now this. Man, I’ll bet The One wishes every session could be a lame-duck session.
The New Start treaty was the last major challenge of the session for Mr. Obama, and in some ways the most emboldening for him. The tax-cut deal required the president to swallow a compromise that extended the expiring, lowered Bush-era tax rates even for the wealthy, costing him support within his own party. The overturning of the “don’t ask, don’t tell” military policy was driven as much by senators as by the White House.
But it was Mr. Obama who decided to make passing the treaty before the end of the year a high-profile test of his remaining clout. Despite bleak prospects for the treaty just a month ago, Mr. Obama mounted an unusually relentless campaign to win over enough Republican senators on his terms, enlisting former Republican luminaries, the nation’s military commanders and Eastern European leaders to knock down any objections…
The White House and Pentagon have insisted from the beginning that the treaty would do nothing to block American missile defense plans. On Monday, Mr. McCain unveiled a proposed amendment to the resolution of ratification that accompanies the treaty affirming that the United States will proceed with all four planned phases of missile defense in Europe by 2020 as Mr. Obama has committed to doing.
The growing support from Republicans suggested that the White House no longer needed Mr. McCain and it may choose to pocket what seems to be shaping up as a victory without making further accommodations. At the same time, it may decide to come to an agreement with Mr. McCain in the interest of building a stronger bipartisan vote for the treaty beyond the bare-minimum 66.
Here’s the roll. Eleven Republicans voted yes — Alexander, Bennett, Brown, Cochran, Collins, Corker, Isakson, Lugar, Murkowski, Snowe, and Voinovich. Those not voting included Evan Bayh, Judd Gregg, and the ailing Ron Wyden, all of whom are expected to back the treaty on the final vote, so Waffles is right for once that they might very well hit 70. And I’d bet cash money that if not for the prospect of a tea-party primary challenge next year, Hatch would have been lucky number 71.
As for the missile defense objections that Ed outlined earlier, that’s been an issue since the beginning. But I think The One’s given so many assurances by now about not letting Russia use the treaty as leverage to extract missile-shield concessions that he couldn’t cave to them without doing himself some serious political damage. The latest promise came just two days ago, in a formal, detailed letter to the Senate which Kerry took to reading aloud on the floor. Putting it in writing doesn’t guarantee that he won’t cave, but it does make things nice and easy for GOP attack ads about Democratic weakness on national security if he does. If he wants to break his promise to the public and help elect a Republican president in 2012 or 2016, whereupon the missile shield will be duly reinstated, hey.
Here’s Lindsey Graham, one of the 28 votes, sounding off at the presser afterwards. Apart from Kyl, he’s been the most vocal objector to the treaty on the Republican side lately; whether that’s a byproduct of his hawkishness or a bow to the reality of his own primary challenge down the road is anyone’s guess. Said DeMint at the same presser, “We join millions of Americans who are outraged,” which is true — there are millions who oppose it. But if you believe CNN’s latest poll, those millions are in a very small minority.









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Which is exactly why Cornyn and KBH actually did the right thing. They can hear the footsteps behind them. Still doesn’t matter, I want them both gone.
TxAnn56 on December 21, 2010 at 6:15 PM
Yea, yea, you’ve already used this to troll in another thread. You don’t have anything else troll?
jawkneemusic on December 21, 2010 at 6:16 PM
What number did you call? I just tried their DC offices and was given a recording the office is closed.
JellyToast on December 21, 2010 at 6:18 PM
The problem for Obama is that he is now within two years of the election, and any caving to the Russians on defense could be come a campaign issue.
From now on he has to appear strong on defense to hold the moderates and independents, even if his lefty base would like him to disarm the country.
A lousy economy plus incompetence and passivity in foreign affairs helped do in Carter. (And of course, having Reagan as opponent was a considerable factor, too).
Wethal on December 21, 2010 at 6:23 PM
Heh. TWO things we agree on!
ladyingray on December 21, 2010 at 6:23 PM
I called before 6. Last night when I called, both their emails were full. I have a feeling they didn’t listen to us. I also sent them both emails.
We need Marsha Blackburn!
ladyingray on December 21, 2010 at 6:25 PM
You’re about as smart as I figured.
DarkCurrent on December 21, 2010 at 6:26 PM
This is very interesting…….whenever I try to bold anything on the iPhone keypad it won’t let me type. Is this part of the new Net Neutrality (no holds only pastels theme on the web)?
Anyhoo…….the Pappy Plan for Arms:
AMMO UP!!
PappyD61 on December 21, 2010 at 6:26 PM
And Putin gets Obama’s deepest bow yet.
rogerb on December 21, 2010 at 6:37 PM
What does that mean?!
I couldn’t make myself vote for George H.W. Bush and I sure wasn’t going to vote for that Democrat bumpkin Clinton.
Jenfidel on December 21, 2010 at 6:37 PM
If you haven’t read it:
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/140035.pdf
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/140047.pdf
marinetbryant on December 21, 2010 at 6:39 PM
Putin just did sex to Obama.
darwin on December 21, 2010 at 6:42 PM
And so you predictably helped us get Clinton, which led to a Republican Congressional majority just 2 years later.
You’re a genius!
DarkCurrent on December 21, 2010 at 6:45 PM
LOL!
portlandon on December 21, 2010 at 6:47 PM
May the Lord God continue to bless this nation, even in its rebellion, with men of valor and honor such as this!
“Any coward can fight a battle when he’s sure of winning; but give me the man who has the pluck to fight when he’s sure of losing. That’s my way, sir; and there are many victories worse than a defeat.” ~ George Eliot
Merry Christmas to you and yours, good sir! And God bless you!
Threshing Flora on December 21, 2010 at 6:49 PM
I don’t think many people care much about this. It’s just some trumped up nonsense to give Obama a political “win”. The fact that it makes us 0% safer and could actually do us or our allies real harm doesn’t amount to anything because the One needed some positive press. Pathetic.
forest on December 21, 2010 at 6:54 PM
Yeah, I know, but I was not going to vote for Poppy Bush.
No can do.
I hope it was the one and only time I have to do that.
Jenfidel on December 21, 2010 at 6:55 PM
We meet at 1830 tonight and have a list,a plan,the cash on hand to start the primary ball rollin’ on all of them at 0600 22 Dec 2010.
We are not going to mess with the RNC or Cornan we are going straight to candidate prospect in ever race that counts.
Patriotech Project:
American Majority
120 N. Hatcher Ave.
Purcellville, VA 20132
Join me in this fight in Tennessee and Texas.
Ask to contact J.R.
Thank You,
MERRY CHRISTMAS
Col.John Wm. Reed on December 21, 2010 at 6:56 PM
You know what I find most sickening? We have an improportionately high number of closet democrats that are masquerading as GOP RINO/pseudo-conservative Senators.
Alas, I can only come to this conclusion because:
(1) When Democrats have required 60 votes for their agenda, they have managed to obtain enough GOP votes to secure passage even when they lost a Senate vote that kept them at 59 and now 58.
(2) When Democrats have required 67 votes, surprisingly they find 11 (eleven) GOP votes when the GOP base was made to believe that their party would stand firm. What the heck!
I sincerely wonder: what is the ceiling on the closet votes that the Dems can count on from the GOP when push comes to shove? What do they have on these GOP senators that they are so willing to disregard the valid concerns of their base and shaft them over and over again?
I fear to say this: the GOP is royally screwed!!! The GOP base is well and truly being played for FOOLS.
This lame duck session has shown that we only have about 20 odd senators that we can count on when push comes to shove. The rest are at the bidding of their Dem overlords and will jump when told to. You seriously think if they needed 75 votes for ratification of START, the Dems wouldn’t have found those votes from the GOP senators?
TheRightMan on December 21, 2010 at 6:56 PM
Tell me again why we as conservatives elect these people?
RedMindBlueState on December 21, 2010 at 6:57 PM
It helps if you don’t concern yourself with that whole ‘Consent of the Governed thing’ – enjoy your destruction of a once great nation oppressive A-hole.
Colbyjack on December 21, 2010 at 7:00 PM
Well then…
… at least we didn’t elect this guy!
That dude sounds like he doesn’t like us…
… or something, and would sign a treaty that would weaken us. I’m sure glad that isn’t going to happen.
/
Seven Percent Solution on December 21, 2010 at 7:08 PM
Hey, one other thing – always keep in mind that Socialist regimes never last – take a look Europe for starters. They always fail in one way or another – usually with a great deal of destruction and loss of life.
So think about your little contribution to all the coming strife and conflict and rest easy tonight – you’ll need it.
Colbyjack on December 21, 2010 at 7:09 PM
The GOP has betrayed you.
True_King on December 21, 2010 at 7:14 PM
Great post, the republican platform no longer has any rigid planks they have become shifting sands thanks to our compassionate conservative fallacies.
fourdeucer on December 21, 2010 at 7:23 PM
I find it very hard to care about this treaty in name only (tino), other than the prospect it may boost obama somehow. DREAM is dead, Omnibus is dead, don’t care about the repeal of clinton’s DADT. I’m a happy camper – if the lame duck ends NOW.
bilups on December 21, 2010 at 7:34 PM
So you keep telling us, True…
Have you told Ron Paul?
Jenfidel on December 21, 2010 at 7:49 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6BK6WC20101221
The national debt rose 2-trillion this year alone under the Socialist regime disguised as the Democrat party. Since the Socialists took over power of the purse string in 06, our country has suffered the worst decline since the great depression. But yet crr6 is happy these Socialist b*stards got everything they wanted in this lame duck session.
You’re some kind of as*hole crr6.
Keemo on December 21, 2010 at 7:51 PM
Truth is the establishment politicians are in bed together, doesn’t really matter much which party is in power. They were both taking us to the same destination; one by train and the other by rocket ship. The GOP is filled with establishment people that will be replaced one election at a time.
Keemo on December 21, 2010 at 7:54 PM
Since McConnell appears not to be fazed by the lack of party discipline among the Senate GOP, one can surmise that he wouldn’t get peeved when the incoming conservative senators (Rubio, Lee, Paul, etc) refuse to toe the party line to vote for so-called bipartisan legislation… right?
Or is the media going to be filled with how McConnell has lost control and the indiscipline of the Tea Party senators. I doubt we will read glowing reports of the new mavericks…
TheRightMan on December 21, 2010 at 7:54 PM
Sir, while I only “know” you as a stream of 1s and 0s whose values translate to honor, courage and inspiration, I must confess that your posts of the last few days have saddened me.
So reading of your conscientious move to the Conservative Party leads me to ask: Is there any chance that you might consider running for office in your district as a member of your new party? I think you would be a great Conservative Representative. If I lived in your district you’d get my vote in a heartbeat.
Well, Sir, keep up the good fight and Merry Christmas.
Gang-of-One on December 21, 2010 at 8:13 PM
AllahP,
It’s pollyanish to think that the WON! won’t use this as a pretext to tank missile defense;he’s already begun to do so unilaterally-canceling the tests of the heretofore successful ABL system as an example.
This pinheaded popinjay ran on cancelling missile defense in 2008. It’s an article of faith that he’ll ultimately have to deliver on to placate the nutroot base that he seems to have so publicly abandoned of late.
And, forgive me if you find this too tin-foil-hat, but it’s a necessary step to follow through on, and finally achieve, his red-diaper baby , Manchurian-candidate-esque, hookah inspired NO NUKES! dreams from his college hippy-chick orgy days of selling us down the river to the communists.
He just doesn’t realize that the Russians are no loner the doctrinaire commies anymore, that ignominious distinction goes to the Chinese; who have masterfully blended communism and fascism into Tom Friedman’s wet dream of the ultimate top-down command and controlled economy and society.
Dude! Never forget, you can’t trust Obama; any and all of his promises have expiration dates that usually come sooner than later.
RocketmanBob on December 21, 2010 at 8:27 PM
Damn. Not enough c*nty obstruction.
Dave Rywall on December 21, 2010 at 8:38 PM
Uh, you voted for him dummy. Last I checked he was a GOPer.
True_King on December 21, 2010 at 8:38 PM
I thought you liked Paul.
I’d never vote for him for any reason.
Jenfidel on December 21, 2010 at 8:59 PM
Dream died. Omnibus died. Dadt and start passed.
The two fails made me more happy than the two that passed upset me.
Taxes didnt go up.
Overall given Reid had 58 in the lame duck, could have been a lot worse.
Start is useless as are all treaties. Not worth the paper oblablah will sign.
angryed on December 21, 2010 at 9:05 PM
Mark Kirk must be thanking God that they had the votes they needed and he didn’t need to vote yes … after remembering that he campaigned on a solemn vow to get in the Senate during the Lame Duck session and hold the line against those wascowy Democwats ramming through lame duck trash bills.
It will be fun to see what he does in the final vote.
Jaibones on December 21, 2010 at 9:10 PM
These past few weeks the Democrats have honked the Lame Duck Republican’s noses and pulled their underwear up over their heads, like this.
Of course, if the Democrats had pulled any of this before the election we’d probably have super-majorities in both houses of Congress right now. Even O’Donnell would have won!
And hardly a peep our of the pathetic RINO party about the corrupt anti-democratic nature of lame ducks, because they have more in common with the Democrats in Washington than they do with the rest of the country.
FloatingRock on December 21, 2010 at 9:14 PM
I emailed Alexander and the other RINO invertebrates and told them their senate careers are running out. They will be primaried. It’s over. It was a pleasure to say it, as I know it to be the truth.
rrpjr on December 21, 2010 at 10:50 PM
You forgot the Food Safety bill. So …. why did we elect these guys again?
YehuditTX on December 21, 2010 at 10:58 PM
It’s not a winning streak. It’s a new gang of 14. Repubs that are hard of hearing. People like Brown who think they are a party of one. There are times to be an independent voice. This is a time to wait for the new congress to take its seat and choose what course we should go.
sjramos on December 22, 2010 at 12:37 AM
I think the Tea Party must vow to add ending the lame-duck session to their agenda. This has been a sickening and disheartening six weeks. These sessions must stop.
If the progressive’s agenda is to crush people’s sprits, it sure is working on me!
JeffVader on December 22, 2010 at 12:57 AM
Um…. why is Murkowski considered a republican? She ran and won as an independent, right?
bofh on December 22, 2010 at 12:59 AM
Oh, and Mitch McConnell has got to go as minority leader!!!!! If he was team captain of a sports team he’d have been bench 18 months ago.
This policy of protecting/promoting the most senior rather than the most qualified, be it for president or a committee position has got it stop too. This is getting ridiculous.
JeffVader on December 22, 2010 at 1:02 AM
Is that the gayest haircut or what?
Coronagold on December 22, 2010 at 1:04 AM
Just when we believe that Republicans are uniting to do right by us, they disappoint once again.
I remember that Scott Brown’s acceptance speech included his commitment to a strong defense. Sure would have be nice to have had the four-phase missile defense McCain proposal made part of the START bill :(
greenLibertarian on December 22, 2010 at 3:02 AM
The eleven that crossed over are on the top of the list, if they are up for re-election in 2012. Is there any thing the “R”s haven’t given to the Pres since we, uhm, shellacked him in November. What, do we feel bad for winning!?
evilgolfer on December 22, 2010 at 8:59 AM
belad on December 22, 2010 at 10:32 AM
Grahamnesty has seen the writing on the wall, so now he’s pretending to be a conservative, in the same fashion as McCain. People have a long memory.
The TEA party is just finding its legs, RINOs.
dogsoldier on December 22, 2010 at 10:54 AM
How is it that Tennessee, red as it is, has these two senators? Ugh…I moved here for a reason, and they are not it. Thank goodness I have Marsha or I’d be highly discouraged. Or should I say, even more discouraged than I am? The conservatives have got to stop splitting the vote during primaries. If you aren’t polling in the top two, show me you care more about the state/country than your personal ambition and drop out, throw your support behind the other conservative and lets get rid of these ‘moderates’.
pannw on December 22, 2010 at 1:41 PM
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