DREAM Act cloture fails, 55-41

posted at 12:00 pm on December 18, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Another day, another waste of time by desperate Democrats in the lame-duck session:

Senate Republicans have blocked a bill to grant hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants brought to the United States as children a chance to gain legal status if they enroll in college or join the military.

Sponsors of what they call the Dream Act needed 60 Senate votes for it, but fell five short. The House passed the bill last week. It was a last-ditch effort to enact it before it Republicans take control of the House from Democrats in January.

Daniel Foster at NRO did the head count:

Among Republicans, only Sens. Bob Bennett of Utah, Richard Lugar of Indiana, and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska voted for the bill.

On the Democat side, Sens. Jon Tester of Montana, Max Baucus of Montana, Ben Nelson of Nebraska, Mark Pyror of Arkansas, and Kay Hagan of North Carolina voted against the bill.

In an update, Foster notes that Joe Manchin of West Virginia also opposed cloture.  Like Lugar, Manchin has to stand for re-election in 2012.  It will be interesting to see Lugar attempt to defend this vote in a primary fight in a little over a year, a fight he’s probably guaranteed himself today.  Even if one thought that the act had some merit, why would Lugar vote to pass it in a lame-duck session — especially since the budget has yet to be addressed, as well as the START treaty that he has hinted at supporting?

The other Democrats opposing the bill aren’t much of a surprise, except perhaps Kay Hagan in North Carolina.  Looks like she’s hearing footsteps, too, even though she’s not up for her second election until 2014.

It’s yet another miscalculation by Reid in a rapidly-closing window of opportunity.  If he didn’t have six of his own caucus in hand, why press the matter at all?  Reid raised expectations and then dashed them, a bad strategy in politics.   Thankfully, it’s also another denial of a significant imposition of policy by a Congress that voters rejected six weeks ago.


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Thank God…

OmahaConservative on December 18, 2010 at 12:02 PM

OmahaConservative on December 18, 2010 at 12:02 PM

Ditto.

bluelightbrigade on December 18, 2010 at 12:04 PM

Count it! Right, crr6?

BuckeyeSam on December 18, 2010 at 12:04 PM

Exhale!

ElectricPhase on December 18, 2010 at 12:05 PM

Good, any victory against these power hungry tyrants is a blessing.

fourdeucer on December 18, 2010 at 12:05 PM

Another catastrophe diverted.

solidaction on December 18, 2010 at 12:06 PM

One down, one to go, and by that I mean the repeal of DADT. I hope the GOP stop it as well.

Blue Collar Todd on December 18, 2010 at 12:07 PM

Thank God…

OmahaConservative on December 18, 2010 at 12:02 PM

OmahaConservative on December 18, 2010 at 12:02 PM

Ditto.

bluelightbrigade on December 18, 2010 at 12:04 PM

Ditto that ditto.

petefrt on December 18, 2010 at 12:08 PM

DADT is as good as gone. Vote passed to end debate. That hurts.

Big Orange on December 18, 2010 at 12:09 PM

Lisa Murkowski, thanks for reminding us once again what a worthless piece of crap you are.

I hope Alaskans catch on to you by 2016, and finally throw your sorry butt to the curb.

AZCoyote on December 18, 2010 at 12:10 PM

DADT will now go down with Obama’s signature. I guess 2 out of 3 isn’t bad, with big wins on the trillion dollar omnibus and DREAM NIGHTMARE. I don’t believe in discrimination against gay people, but when the armed forces leadership accepts DADT, then the timing would have been right – not now.

churchill995 on December 18, 2010 at 12:10 PM

Gawd, Murkowski sucks.

churchill995 on December 18, 2010 at 12:11 PM

Eat it, Harry.

Key West Reader on December 18, 2010 at 12:11 PM

Another catastrophe diverted.

solidaction on December 18, 2010 at 12:06 PM

And another catastrophe proceeds in DADT.

Rovin on December 18, 2010 at 12:11 PM

wha? no crap sandwich today? oh wait…dadt.

ted c on December 18, 2010 at 12:12 PM

Can Lugar spell P-R-I-M-A-R-Y?

churchill995 on December 18, 2010 at 12:12 PM

Children? From ages 12 to FREAKIN’ 30 years old. What a sham. Glad it withered and died. This was just a back door to full amnesty.

Dandapani on December 18, 2010 at 12:12 PM

If anything, DADT’s elimination will be one more reason for people to avoid being complacent in 2012.

churchill995 on December 18, 2010 at 12:14 PM

One of my Nephews is in Afghan theatre… A Marine. DADT… Not a good time. That’s from the ground.

Key West Reader on December 18, 2010 at 12:14 PM

Fairies in the Foxhole. Bummer.

Key West Reader on December 18, 2010 at 12:15 PM

Settled law, as our resident liberals are fond of saying.

Now I fully expect libs nationwide to accept the vote of Congress and like it.

BobMbx on December 18, 2010 at 12:17 PM

I absolutely *hate* losing DADT, but I’d even hate losing DREAM worse.

OmahaConservative on December 18, 2010 at 12:18 PM

Hazzah!

EZnSF on December 18, 2010 at 12:18 PM

Trying to impart onto illegal aliens constitutional rights at the same time citizens are being denied certain rights whether through government mandates, taxes, regulations or just plain malfeasance is sinister.

fourdeucer on December 18, 2010 at 12:19 PM

The other Democrats opposing the bill aren’t much of a surprise, except perhaps Kay Hagan in North Carolina. Looks like she’s hearing footsteps, too

Hearing footsteps? I suspect that it’s more like the clanging of pitchforks and the smell of the people’s torches in the night.

Don L on December 18, 2010 at 12:19 PM

Any version of amnesty, any at all, will guarantee that Republicans never win another election. 90 percent of those amnestied will be Democrats and that means game over for the GOP.

JohnInCA on December 18, 2010 at 12:19 PM

“…and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska voted for the bill.”

Thanks Alaska…

… much appreciated!

Seven Percent Solution on December 18, 2010 at 12:19 PM

Ditto that ditto.
petefrt on December 18, 2010 at 12:08 PM

Count me in on that.

Murkrapski is worth than worthless, she is a kind of dybbuk, a foul spirit that will now purposefully haunt republicans for the rest of her spell in congress.

rrpjr on December 18, 2010 at 12:20 PM

Does Luis Gutierrez take it to the streets now?

Knucklehead on December 18, 2010 at 12:20 PM

The hits never come coming with these lame-ducks. they still have START and DADT to rub into our faces.

MaiDee on December 18, 2010 at 12:20 PM

Lugar need to go!

GarandFan on December 18, 2010 at 12:23 PM

DREAM Act vote sounds bipartisan to me. I mean, that’s what liberals want, isn’t it? Democrats and Republicans coming together on a vote?

PatMac on December 18, 2010 at 12:24 PM

“Republicans block youth immigration bill”

That’s the headline on AP. POS’s.

rrpjr on December 18, 2010 at 12:24 PM

Gawd, Murkowski sucks.

churchill995 on December 18, 2010 at 12:11 PM

That’s what they pay her for.

the_nile on December 18, 2010 at 12:24 PM

No, nos podemos!

(No, we can’t!)

shawk on December 18, 2010 at 12:25 PM

Time for Lugar to go.

WisCon on December 18, 2010 at 12:26 PM

It’s yet another miscalculation by Reid in a rapidly-closing window of opportunity. If he didn’t have six of his own caucus in hand, why press the matter at all?

Maybe a show for the Hispanic voting block to say, “Hey look… we tried.”

PrincipledPilgrim on December 18, 2010 at 12:27 PM

shawk on December 18, 2010 at 12:25 PM

If we all had that auto-translating iPhone app, no caption would be necessary!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2OfQdYrHRs

Inkblots on December 18, 2010 at 12:27 PM

On the Democat side, Sens. Jon Tester of Montana, Max Baucus of Montana, Judas Ben Nelson of Nebraska, Mark Pyror of Arkansas, and Kay Hagan of North Carolina voted against the bill.

Judas must still go! He forced 0bamacare down our throats.

OmahaConservative on December 18, 2010 at 12:29 PM

It’s yet another miscalculation by Reid in a rapidly-closing window of opportunity. If he didn’t have six of his own caucus in hand, why press the matter at all?

Maybe he wanted the opposition to be named and out in the open for all to see. To try and intimidate/remove those who don’t toe the line for his causes?

clement on December 18, 2010 at 12:29 PM

Time for Lugar to go.

WisCon on December 18, 2010 at 12:26 PM

Yes, when I called Sen Isakson (GA) yesterday re: his lame vote for the START treaty, Isakson’s staff invoked Lugar’s name saying, “I am sure you are familiar with Sen Lugar who is a strong Republican… he is advocating for START.” I interrupted her after the “strong Republican” part and said, “You mean, strong RINO!”

START is the next battle. Aren’t they taking that up next week?

PrincipledPilgrim on December 18, 2010 at 12:30 PM

Reid raised expectations and then dashed them, a bad strategy in politics.

DREAM, HOPE, CHANGE…..all strategies used in politics.

sow. reap. or something…

ted c on December 18, 2010 at 12:30 PM

I guess Murkowski got credit for the write-in votes for R-I-N-O.

churchill995 on December 18, 2010 at 12:31 PM

Now we need to get ahead of this and pass a conservative version of this,
one where the illegals go back to their native country ( I don’t care when they came in illegal is illegal) apply for a visa and do it like all the others who are doing it right.
MAYBE we can give them some extra credit for having lived
here but that is it

No sob stories or reward for breaking our laws.
if we pass something it would stop the libs from trying it
again

RWGinger on December 18, 2010 at 12:31 PM

DREAM was a pander to the latino vote period. Dingy knew he didn’t have the votes for cloture. You see, this way he gives the Dems an argument of ‘hey, we tried’ without actually giving them squat.

Still, it was too close for my comfort.

GnuBreed on December 18, 2010 at 12:31 PM

If we all had that auto-translating iPhone app, no caption would be necessary!

Inkblots on December 18, 2010 at 12:27 PM

True dat! (Cierto que!)

shawk on December 18, 2010 at 12:31 PM

All modesty aside, I wrote a hell of a lot of letters both to the democrats and republicans, and they were pretty good ones. Now I will write follow-up thank you letters.

rrpjr on December 18, 2010 at 12:32 PM

We are glad the dream act died,dadt will wither, the AF and some Army units need remf’s so the twinks can push paper stateside.
The Solider who leaked the cables is reportedly gay as have a lot of spies on both sides,Whittker Chambers,many of the Britt’s. CID will have to very carefully look at clearances henceforth.
Field units will deal with this but in the end it shows a housecleaning is needed at the Pentagon. 2012 and gearing up for a real floor moppin’.
Beginning to be a Merrier Christmas.
Now kill of start,get a budget, then go the Hell home.

Col.John Wm. Reed on December 18, 2010 at 12:32 PM

Lugar has already done plenty to earn himself a primary challenge. If nothing else, his opposition to the Surge, announced with timing designed to do the most damage, would deserve it. But over the years he has voted repeatedly with Democrats against conservative policies when it mattered most.

The problem is that Lugar is heavily entrenched in the state party, and Gov. Daniels is a former staffer. If this RINO runs again, he is going to be very, very difficult to dislodge.

I have a bumper sticker somewhere that I have used for the last two elections, taped in the back glass of my car. The message is simple:

DICK LUGAR
BEFORE HE DICKS YOU

If he runs again, this time there will be a handwritten addition:

AGAIN

novaculus on December 18, 2010 at 12:35 PM

My personal approval rating for the Senate is very high today. And part of the reason is the filibuster. Without the filibuster, a lame duck session could get out our hand with evil, vengeful legislation like this time. I don’t trust the GOP one second either if it was in the situation the Democrats are in now.

On the other topic, it is great that DADT was repealed. It just would have been a thorn in the side of the GOP efforts to recruit young voters.

thuja on December 18, 2010 at 12:35 PM

Get used to Murkowski being the worst Republican Senator. The Primary loss hurt her feelings and now she is playing the spiteful child act making sure to let us know she will get her revenge by voting with the Dems every chance she gets. The only reason she doesnt switch parties is because she knows she would lose the general election in Alaska with a (D) behind her name.

She is in office to serve herself, and play petty games with power. Absolutely a disgusting, egoistical, and pathetic human being who has become the worst kind of politician. How could Alaskans have possibly elected this woman?

Alaska ruined my election night and now i will be reminded of that, EVERY SINGLE important Senate vote for 6 years.

THANKS

alecj on December 18, 2010 at 12:37 PM

I’ll echo others-
Thank God this act of treason is dead- for now.
Dick Lugar needs to go- what the hell, man?
DADT will pass and AP and his cat can run that “2 guys in the parade” picture again- because gays feeling good about their lifestyle outweighs everything.

jjshaka on December 18, 2010 at 12:37 PM

It’s good watch whom Murkowskcssy will support in the 2012 primaries.

ALL PRESIDENTIAL WANNABES, BEWARE OF MUCKSOWSCKSY’S ENDORSEMENT IN 2012 PRIMARIES!

TheAlamos on December 18, 2010 at 12:37 PM

Here’s the roll.

russcote on December 18, 2010 at 12:38 PM

Off Topic:
@GnuBreed

I assume from your name that you are using Linux?

thuja on December 18, 2010 at 12:39 PM

On the other topic, it is great that DADT was repealed. It just would have been a thorn in the side of the GOP efforts to recruit young voters.

thuja on December 18, 2010 at 12:35 PM

Some of us are more concerned with how it plays out in the field. Notwithstanding I oppose discrimination against gay people (unless you count this), I defer to military leadership on this one. Clearly the Marines aren’t there yet, to say the least. Now was not the time.

churchill995 on December 18, 2010 at 12:39 PM

whew

Jeddite on December 18, 2010 at 12:39 PM

Lisa Murkowski, thanks for reminding us once again what a worthless piece of crap you are.

I hope Alaskans catch on to you by 2016, and finally throw your sorry butt to the curb.

AZCoyote on December 18, 2010 at 12:10 PM

Agree.

This is another example why lame duck sessions must be stopped! I’ll bet if she voted this way before her quasi write in campaign, it would have put Miller over the top. These lame duck sessions aren’t just bad b/c of the losers, they are bad because some candidates, who are now with us for another 6 years, (ack!) wouldn’t be!!

JeffVader on December 18, 2010 at 12:39 PM

DREAM Act vote sounds bipartisan to me. I mean, that’s what liberals want, isn’t it? Democrats and Republicans coming together on a vote?

PatMac on December 18, 2010 at 12:24 PM

There were only about four Dems, so it’s not really bi-partisan bi-partisan. It only works the other way, and then it applies when Dems get only one Republican to go along with them.

BuckeyeSam on December 18, 2010 at 12:39 PM

Any version of amnesty, any at all, will guarantee that Republicans never win another election. 90 percent of those amnestied will be Democrats and that means game over for the GOP.

JohnInCA on December 18, 2010 at 12:19 PM

There really is a simple answer to this continuing attempt to allow millions of illegal’s to become voters. Pass a law that says, yes, you may go to our schools, work here under a strict federal registration process, and yes, you may pay local, state, and federal taxes, BUT, YOU WILL NEVER BECOME A U.S. CITIZEN AND WILL NEVER BE ALLOWED TO VOTE, until you go to the back to your country of origin, and must wait five years before starting the process behind EVERY LEGAL APPLICANT.

Make the law so clearly stated, that there must be over 90% of the totals in both the House and Senate to make ANY change in this law, and it would end the Democrats love affair with illegal immigration.

Rovin on December 18, 2010 at 12:41 PM

We
Eliminated
The

Developement
Relief
Education for
Alien
Minors ACT

Gone, I Hope!

dhunter on December 18, 2010 at 12:41 PM

Republicans block youth immigration bill”

That’s the headline on AP. POS’s.

rrpjr on December 18, 2010 at 12:24 PM

How nice of them to give us all the credit. It may not be true, but as they say in football, when a bad call goes your way, “I’ll take it”.

Kay Hagan may hear footstops, but the deaf MSM doesn’t hear the charging tanks right behind them, gunning for their heads.

ardenenoch on December 18, 2010 at 12:41 PM

On the other topic, it is great that DADT was repealed. It just would have been a thorn in the side of the GOP efforts to recruit young voters.

thuja on December 18, 2010 at 12:35 PM

uh yeah sure..we need the kind of voters who will give us more MOOCOWskis…

right4life on December 18, 2010 at 12:42 PM

CAN’T WAIT to see these crazy, irresponsible and Mexico-patriot democrats lose power in January. It can’t come too soon-they were the worst Congress EVAH. (I don’t blame people from Mexico coming north to escape their socialist sewer-I would do the same.) I DO blame the socialist Democrats and weak Republicans (including both Bushes) for refusing to SECURE our borders-DUH!!!!

Did anyone read the excellent article by Victor Hansen entitled “Two Californias” ? Well worth reading, it describes the Mexicofacation of California. TRAGIC.

3dpuzzman on December 18, 2010 at 12:42 PM

When the new session starts, I suggest the Republicans start holding hearings on why the DOJ isn’t suing the 10 states (including CA and NY) that are currently violating federal law by giving in-state tuition rates to illegal alien students.

We know (from the AZ lawsuit) how very important it is to Eric Holder to maintain federal supremacy when it comes to immigration law. Since these states’ actions directly conflict with federal law, and provide even more incentive for illegal immigration, it seems . . . curious . . . that Holder is not suing them. Time for Holder to testify about the reasons for this discrepancy.

AZCoyote on December 18, 2010 at 12:46 PM

I’m glad Hagan is hearing footsteps. They are only going to get louder and louder.

j_galt on December 18, 2010 at 12:49 PM

From “Dream” to “Keep on dreaming”.

repvoter on December 18, 2010 at 12:49 PM

Markaloutikas went on a little rant over Democratic Jon Tester of Montana’s vote: DREAM Act Causes Ugly Breakup on Left

Funny stuff.

slickwillie2001 on December 18, 2010 at 12:50 PM

OT

I assume from your name that you are using Linux?

thuja on December 18, 2010 at 12:39 PM

No, though I’ve been tempted. Ultimately I’m just too lazy to learn it all.

When I registered here, the Tea Party was still in the future but I was already a member. Thus the name.

GnuBreed on December 18, 2010 at 12:50 PM

AZCoyote on December 18, 2010 at 12:46 PM

Oddly, so many of those California college students complaining about increased tuition don’t see any relationship between their increased tuition–which, of course, can be attributed to several factors–and in-state tuition for illegal immigrants.

BuckeyeSam on December 18, 2010 at 12:50 PM

The Pentagon study found that two-thirds of service members didn’t think changing the law would have much of an effect. But of those who did predict negative consequences, a majority were assigned to combat arms units. Nearly 60 percent of the Marine Corps and Army combat units, such as infantry and special operations, said in the survey they thought repealing the law would hurt their units’ ability to fight.

The Pentagon’s uniformed chiefs are divided on whether this resistance might pose serious problems.

As McCain points out, liberals’ social agenda is being imposed on those that defend them. Ah, but what the hell, of course they know better.
/

churchill995 on December 18, 2010 at 12:54 PM

Among Republicans, only Sens. Bob Bennett of Utah, Richard Lugar of Indiana, and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska voted for the bill.

This absolutely makes my blood boil. During the next election, if I have to choose between voting for a bubonic plague carrying rat or Richard Lugar (GOP POS) I will vote for the rat!

ReagansRight on December 18, 2010 at 12:56 PM

Muckowski’s two-for-two today. Shouldn’t she get on with the business of switching parties already?

BKeyser on December 18, 2010 at 12:56 PM

The GOP has to adopt this strategy of overwhelming the left to vote on several measures and wear them down. They used the DREAM vote to get DADT passed, IMO. I think it’s the greasy palmed trick of “give me something to vote no on so I can say Im a principled POS and then I might vote yes on something else that goes against those principles.”

ted c on December 18, 2010 at 12:59 PM

Lugar should simply retire, with the decency he’s got left. The holier than thou and the incontinent should go home. They are disgusting, from all sides of the isle.

The founding fathers are turning in their graves. The citizens s/b way smarter and not allow such any more.

Schadenfreude on December 18, 2010 at 12:59 PM

You people in Alaska can be so proud!

ultracon on December 18, 2010 at 1:00 PM

Alaskans, you are for the most part morons.

Schadenfreude on December 18, 2010 at 1:00 PM

Oddly, so many of those California college students complaining about increased tuition don’t see any relationship between their increased tuition–which, of course, can be attributed to several factors–and in-state tuition for illegal immigrants.

BuckeyeSam on December 18, 2010 at 12:50 PM

The illegal alien problem is also used by the democratics as justification for Obamacare. Thirty million illegal aliens go away, and so does a big chunk of the ‘uninsured’.

Of course, post-Obamacare they will still be ‘uninsured’, because they want to be ‘uninsured’, but it will be too late for the law-abiding victims of Obamacare.

slickwillie2001 on December 18, 2010 at 1:04 PM

Alaskans, you are for the most part morons.

Schadenfreude on December 18, 2010 at 1:00 PM

I would like to add: …..for the most part DRUNK.

shawk on December 18, 2010 at 1:05 PM

sen Ma’am was just whining about DREAM failing, vowing to keep fighting.

OmahaConservative on December 18, 2010 at 1:05 PM

ReagansRight on December 18, 2010 at 12:56 PM

Don’t worry. Lugar is finished.

rrpjr on December 18, 2010 at 1:06 PM

A few more back room deals with our money, some vote buying pork promises and this will be back.

That is how this Congress works. Anybody can be bought.

cntrlfrk on December 18, 2010 at 1:07 PM

“We will transform America”
Barack Obama

“The DREAM is over”
John Lennon

ardenenoch on December 18, 2010 at 1:09 PM

The DREAM Act was an attempt by Democrats to buy Hispanic/Latino votes, pure and simple. Speaking of ‘simple’, how many Hispanic/Latino voters are there in Alaska, Lisa??? Doubt you’ll get their vote in 2016.

Bob in VA on December 18, 2010 at 1:10 PM

sen Ma’am was just whining about DREAM failing, vowing to keep fighting.

OmahaConservative on December 18, 2010 at 1:05 PM

Expect more of the same in the next two years.

Knucklehead on December 18, 2010 at 1:10 PM

Has there ever been such an inept group in the WH, Senate and House at the same time?

Oleta on December 18, 2010 at 1:16 PM

You guys need to read this article on how the California central valley is turning into Mexico.

Click here

Oil Can on December 18, 2010 at 1:16 PM

I hope Alaskans catch on to you by 2016, and finally throw your sorry butt to the curb.

AZCoyote on December 18, 2010 at 12:10 PM

I’m hoping the Miller finds a judge that reads and judges the law as written. Miller isn’t done yet..

unseen on December 18, 2010 at 1:18 PM

We have told the politicians for years to stop the invasion, build the wall, n amnesty, send illegals caught home. Today they listened in a minor way about the Amnesty bit..baby steps.

JIMV on December 18, 2010 at 1:19 PM

How exactly did Republicans block this? If several dems voted agsinst cloture – really dems blocked it. If Harry had all his dems on board it would have passed. The media spin is just ridiculous.

Firefly_76 on December 18, 2010 at 1:24 PM

Time to kill START and DADT.

Tim Burton on December 18, 2010 at 1:25 PM

While hardly pressing issues that a lame duck Congress ought to be concerning itself with, I don’t find either of these acts to be bad on their own merits.

DADT is a stupid policy that was enacted by a cynical WH and Congress for the worst of political motives. It is a travesty.

As for DREAM, while military service is already a fast track to citizenship, I think that we benefit by allowing educated aliens to have a streamlined path to citizenship. I find it much more satisfactory to have an alien (particularly one who is here because his parents brought him here as a minor and not by some fault of his own) to become a citizen than to either be a black or gray market worker or to apply his skills in some other country. Current policy and hard line policies that are so popular (as in populist) serve only to swell the ranks of the ignorant and indigent alien population and the exportation of the most productive.

MJBrutus on December 18, 2010 at 1:26 PM

murky had better not get any senior seat on a committee…

cmsinaz on December 18, 2010 at 1:26 PM

Dream dead, omnibus dead, and start should be dead soon. Three out of four ain’t bad.

Good Solid B-Plus on December 18, 2010 at 1:28 PM

Lisa Murkowski!! Grrrr! Don’t blame it on us Alaskans! That write-in vote was fixed!

tbear44 on December 18, 2010 at 1:28 PM

Good. Now, let’s get to work.

Start with the welfare rolls. Use E-verify to immediately reject all illegal/invalid SSN’s off the rolls.

Just say no: You cannot deliver your baby here in the US and no, you can’t get free health care here in the US. And, absolutely NO.. YOU CANNOT DROP YOUR BABY ON US SOIL and be granted citizenship.

Mandate that all employers use E-Verify. Obey minimum wage rules.

This shortlist will take about 10 years. But we have to start somewhere.

P.S. These suggestions are politically correct and include people from moslem countries, kenyan providences, the UK and all other states under the UN mandate, except North Korea.

Key West Reader on December 18, 2010 at 1:28 PM

Thank God. And of course Kay Hagan hears footsteps. Glad to hear the gentlement in Baucus’s office told me the truth last night that he was opposed.

ladyingray on December 18, 2010 at 1:31 PM

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